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Calif HS Serves Fried Chicken and Watermelon for Black History Month (1 Viewer)

Whoever's working the GG alias is wasting a tremendous amount of time and effort on these diatribes that no one bothers to read.

 
Homer J Simpson said:
Whoever's working the GG alias is wasting a tremendous amount of time and effort on these diatribes that no one bothers to read.
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Well, I did read the part about my daughters getting gang raped and me getting my throat cut. For some reason that sort of, you know, caught my eye.
 
On Cinco de Mayo I plan to eat lots of Mexican food, drink tequila and party.

On St. Patricks Day, I plan to eat corned beef cabbage and drink lots of green drinks and party.

During February, it's a whole month...kinda hard to party all month so I planned to support Obama regardless of policy, make an ignorant amount of noise in a movie theater, drink purple or orange flavored/colored dranks and yes...at some point this month I will be chowing down on copious amounts of fried chicken and maybe a watermelon or three.

 
pollardsvision said:
I take it we're finished discussing regional fried chicken chain preferences?
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Actually I've done an analysis and it turns out that there is indeed a ChikFilA on Main Street in Concord; meawhile you have to go way out of town all the way down The Delta Hwy (CA 4) all the way to Antioch to find a Popeyes.

So I think there's some validity to the CFA theory earlier postulated.

 
The (somewhat) funny thing about this revisited GG screed is that it's (unknowingly to GG apparently) actually relevant (if it's actually relevant at all) to all poor people, not just black people. But GG has to take it to a racial place. Not nice.

ETA: What's with all the parentheticals?

 
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GordonGekko said:
T Bell said:
Gordon Gekko with a racism filibuster.
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It's funny, when people's relationship problems stir up in this community, people start to say "Start hiding money" Or "Nomarriage.com"

They've already openly acknowledged the disparity in most typical divorces in the Western culture and how punitive they can be on most men in our modern society.

Thinking about how to protect yourself doesn't make you a woman hater, it makes you practical.

However, if someone has the gall to say that being non African American and dealing with African Americans is rife full of potential legal liability, PR destruction, possible extortion and generally being grinded down by a lose/lose situation, somehow that's not practicality, that's somehow racism.

Parents teach their kids this all the time, if you can't get along with Kid X and/or nothing good comes of being around that person, then stay away. Parents often chastise their kids from being near a "certain kind of kid", the troublemaker, the one who will bring nothing but grief, problems and future struggles ahead.

This is practical and acceptable, but to categorize African Americans as a potential threat to the well being of non African Americans in a culture of adversarial legalism and entitlement is not?

I'm not saying all blacks are nothing but trouble, but I am saying, given the proportion of harm you can do to yourself versus not, in many many cases, and sadly in most cases, even if it's not politically correct to say, why even bother?

I'm not advocating violence, I'm not advocating taking anyone's right to work, or vote or seek happiness. I'm not trying to tell anyone to build another water fountain or cattle prod people to the back of some bus. I'm saying, if nothing good comes of something consistently, cut it out of your life. Sorry if some of you can't handle blacks being categorized right up there with high fructose corn syrup and gluten and people with herpes. Problems are problems, it's not personal.

Avoiding a high risk/low reward situation consistently isn't something I see as racism. I see it as practicality.
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Every time you post you turn stupidity into an onomatopoeia.

 
What GG is talking about is a generalization which is more about low class culture than it is about blacks. Like all generalizations it is partially true and partially false (including this one). However, because blacks are such significant part of low class culture, the generalization often is made that it is blacks.

Let's assume you, an upper middle class male, exit a restaurant at night with your wife. You have to walk a couple of blocks to your parked car, and on the same side of the street that you are on is a bar with males spilling out onto the sidewalk; they are loud, boisterous, are dressed in a slovenly manner, with chains and tattoos, etc. Across the street you see a group of black males, dressed in suits, talking quietly amongst themselves.

My bet would be that 90% of you would cross the street with your wife and walk past the young black males.

 
"Chicken, watermelon, collard greens -- these stereotypes of black Southern culture come from the same place that the N-word comes from," he said. "This is not like, 'This food represents this heroic moment in African-American experience.' What it represents is the degradation and the stereotyping of African-Americans."
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That's some good food there.
 
This thread seems to be going well. Any time you have black people compared to herpes carriers, you know we've raised the bar around here.

 
Can someone explain to me why fried chicken and watermelon are offensive? Don't black people really like them? Why do they carry a negative connotation?

 
GordonGekko said:
Fennis said:
Thanks?
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Under my principles and mindset, if I was principal of that school, there would be one week called "Diversity Week" Every morning, on the PA system, Kermit the Frog would sing It's Not Easy Being Green and there would be one banner saying "All People And All Paths Are Accepted"

I would not change any menu. African American history month, Asian American history month, Cinco de Mayo, all cancelled. All funding that would have gone there would go to the math program or to enhance the after school sports or tutoring programs. If someone stuck a microphone in my face, I'd say I was aiming to improve the math skills of all my students. Since I cancelled everything, no one is going to come at me saying I favored one over another. If I had to, I would cancel Xmas and Halloween as well.

My method is simple, don't even try to figure out what is or is not going to flip out some entitled liberal lobbyist group looking for the next lawsuit or some peeking behind every bush looking to crap on any kind of anti establishment liberal jack off like Fennis. (You're welcome, jack off) Avoid the issue as much as you can, look to prevent as much liability and negative PR as possible and go on with your day.

There are a lot of black liberals out there who want non African Americans to engage the race issue, because if not, they'd BE OUT OF A JOB. If racism ended, Jesse Jackson would be out of a job. No fingers to be pointed if no one is talking, addressing or getting near the issue. Sorry if I feel I don't wnat to walk into an established cottage industry of race based extortion. Because after Jesse Jackson goes in front of a camera and accuses you of racism, before he does it, he asks you if you want to hire a "consulting company" that specializes in diversity training, one that happens to be associated with his own people, family and supporters. You can pay for these consultants, or the black lobby can try to destroy you via bad PR to the public.

Are we going to pretend that a lot of these pro black activists haven't turned this into a revenue generating model based on fear and threat of adversarial legalism?

Are we going to pretend that Asians and Latinos offer the exact same kind of legal threat and potential financial damage that a legal/social/PR conflict with African Americans can bring to you as a non African American?

Here's the dirty little secret about racism, it's got a lot more to do with being the power majority than the color of your skin. If the world was 90 percent black and 5 percent white and 5 percent Asian and Latino, do you think blacks would be any more merciful to whites, asians and latinos as they accuse non African Americans of being to them now?
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sphincter says what?

 
drfeelgood said:
Deepster said:
Can someone explain to me why fried chicken and watermelon are offensive? Don't black people really like them? Why do they carry a negative connotation?
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Watermelon is the most offensive, and fried chicken just gets lumped in with it to make fun of black people since it is part of black culture. The derogatory use of watermelon goes back to the slavery days. Here is an explanation of the watermelon stereotype.
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Interesting stuff. Thanks. I guess I always just saw it as part of their food culture like the foods my ancestors like.

 
The early 1900s is when a lot of the racial stereotypes of black Americans were born. The tragic mulatto, the Jezebel, the mammy, etc and the watermelon stereotype was also part of these stereotypes.

Watermelon was and still is a relatively cheap fruit, so of course blacks would buy them as a lot of blacks were dirt poor at the time. However, other races enjoy watermelon as well.

The issue here isn't the food per se, but it is the reinforcement of the stereotype of every black person being the same. Black people are no different than anyone else, however we aren't seen as individuals. One black man represents all black man, the same goes with black women. If a black person robs a liquor store then all black people have to be followed around a store and harassed because if one black person does it, then they ALL must do it, right?

This line of thinking is exactly why there's discrimination in the workplace, housing, getting approved for loans/mortgages, etc for African Americans.

But of course most people see it as a small issue with just food, but it goes deeper than that.

 
MaxThreshold said:
Scoresman said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Scoresman said:
I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.
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Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.
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they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.
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Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?
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Yeah, that's is horrible shtick that he brings into every thread. There is a better than average chance it was a liberal school administrator that made the call.

 
T Bell said:
Gordon Gekko with a racism filibuster.
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:goodposting: Most of the time I understand where he's coming from, and sometimes I even kinda agree with him...

But posting that here? Nothing but racist.. It's not even remotely on topic...

 
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Gachi said:
The issue here isn't the food per se, but it is the reinforcement of the stereotype of every black person being the same. Black people are no different than anyone else, however we aren't seen as individuals. One black man represents all black man, the same goes with black women. If a black person robs a liquor store then all black people have to be followed around a store and harassed because if one black person does it, then they ALL must do it, right?

This line of thinking is exactly why there's discrimination in the workplace, housing, getting approved for loans/mortgages, etc for African Americans.

But of course most people see it as a small issue with just food, but it goes deeper than that.
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See, this is something I think I have an issue with. Drunk Irishman jokes. Dumb polish jokes. The fat Italian pizza chef with a giant mustache on every pizza box. Black people aren't seen as individuals? Yeah. Join the club.

 
Deepster said:
Gachi said:
The issue here isn't the food per se, but it is the reinforcement of the stereotype of every black person being the same. Black people are no different than anyone else, however we aren't seen as individuals. One black man represents all black man, the same goes with black women. If a black person robs a liquor store then all black people have to be followed around a store and harassed because if one black person does it, then they ALL must do it, right?

This line of thinking is exactly why there's discrimination in the workplace, housing, getting approved for loans/mortgages, etc for African Americans.

But of course most people see it as a small issue with just food, but it goes deeper than that.
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See, this is something I think I have an issue with. Drunk Irishman jokes. Dumb polish jokes. The fat Italian pizza chef with a giant mustache on every pizza box. Black people aren't seen as individuals? Yeah. Join the club.
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Surely, you see the reason why there is a different sensitivity with black stereotypes compareed Western European stereotypes.

 
drfeelgood said:
Deepster said:
Can someone explain to me why fried chicken and watermelon are offensive? Don't black people really like them? Why do they carry a negative connotation?
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Watermelon is the most offensive, and fried chicken just gets lumped in with it to make fun of black people since it is part of black culture. The derogatory use of watermelon goes back to the slavery days. Here is an explanation of the watermelon stereotype.
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Here is the truth it is based on. Here is the amount of watermelon the average American ate in 1996:

  • 5.9 kg: white
  • 6.0 kg: black
  • 8.1 kg: Hispanic
 
So let me get this straight, African americans love fried chicken and watermelon, but if offered, or served fried chicken in conjunction with watermelon by white people, then white people are racist....? Hmm...

 
Carolina Hustler said:
So let me get this straight, African americans love fried chicken and watermelon, but if offered, or served fried chicken in conjunction with watermelon by white people, then white people are racist....? Hmm...
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Who doesn't love Fried Chicken or watermelon?

 
HughHoney said:
So what food should be served for black history month?
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pollardsvision said:
HughHoney said:
So what food should be served for black history month?
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I think it's a bit of a tricky situation, and as others have alluded, it's more about the messenger than the message, so to speak.

It shouldn't be a bad thing to eat fried chicken or say someone else likes fried chicken. Fried chicken is very, very good.

But, for some stupid reason, idiots decide to turn liking fried chicken into something derogatory, using it in conjunction with other phrases to demean and stereotype black people.

So, the fried chicken issue can be understandably offensive, even if it's not intended to be.

I have no idea if what this school did was right or wrong, but it's no surprise it raised eyebrows.
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Considering the racist connotations of certain foods, namely fried chicken and watermelon, it's best to not change a menu for black history month. If a school is going to do it then they should leave out those two items and go with say fried fish, macaroni and cheese and sweet potatoes instead.

 
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