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[FDC]

I'm very surprised that Anderson was named the #2. He wasn't getting any touches in the preseason and I thought there was a chance he could get cut.

Clausen must really, really suck.

Where was he named?I've seen EVERYONE speculating but haven't seen him named.

FWIW the announcers in the broadcast said that Rivera said Anderson started and played a lot last night only because he had not seen hardly any snaps this preseason and he needed to get some because there was a chance they could need him to play some. Clausen did miss some practice time recently too with an elbow injury, maybe it was in light of that.

 

[solorca]

I'm very surprised that Anderson was named the #2. He wasn't getting any touches in the preseason and I thought there was a chance he could get cut.

Clausen must really, really suck.

Where was he named?I've seen EVERYONE speculating but haven't seen him named.

FWIW the announcers in the broadcast said that Rivera said Anderson started and played a lot last night only because he had not seen hardly any snaps this preseason and he needed to get some because there was a chance they could need him to play some. Clausen did miss some practice time recently too with an elbow injury, maybe it was in light of that.

It was announced by Rivera after the game last night. Newton has already spoken about it as well, so it's a definite.I got the news originally from Steve Reed (Carolinagrowl on twitter, local beat writer). Schefter has also verified it.

 

[simey]

I cannot wait to post after Cam's 1st NFL game next weekend.My guess?9 completions, 24 pass attempts, 0 TD's, 2 INT's 7 rushes for 27 yards and 0 TD'sAt the end of his first NFL game Cam will look like thishttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zM-D8lp65LQ/SyGrWX8INaI/AAAAAAAABpQ/jg4RJtfuJBc/s400/DeerInHeadlights.jpg

Why are you so excited for Newton to perform poorly?

 

[pantherclub]

I'm very surprised that Anderson was named the #2. He wasn't getting any touches in the preseason and I thought there was a chance he could get cut.

Clausen must really, really suck.

I told you guys last year, Claussen has no business being on a NFL roster. Way too many negatives in his game, weak arm, he is too small and is too squirrelly. Hurney should be fired.

 

[FDC]

It was announced by Rivera after the game last night. Newton has already spoken about it as well, so it's a definite.I got the news originally from Steve Reed (Carolinagrowl on twitter, local beat writer). Schefter has also verified it.

Just so we are clear, I'm talking about the #2 spot not Cam. I konw Cam is the starter. I haven't seen Anderson as the #2 announced anywhere and I follow Steve and Shefter on twitter.

 

[solorca]

It was announced by Rivera after the game last night. Newton has already spoken about it as well, so it's a definite.I got the news originally from Steve Reed (Carolinagrowl on twitter, local beat writer). Schefter has also verified it.

Just so we are clear, I'm talking about the #2 spot not Cam. I konw Cam is the starter. I haven't seen Anderson as the #2 announced anywhere and I follow Steve and Shefter on twitter.

Sorry, my bad.Anderson has NOT been named the backup, by all accounts (I follow nearly every Panther's beat writer imaginable). It's largely considered to be the case, but it has definitely not been formally announced. In fact, the speculation is that Rivera will not even bother to name an official backup, since there is no need for the emergency QB declaration anymore.

 

[Sleehrat]

Why is there so much interest in who the backup is? That never made sense to me. Cam is starter, end of story, nothing else is relevent unless there's an injury.

 

[pollardsvision]

Maybe it was against UPS drivers, but Anderson looked like a Pro Bowler last night.

He was throwing down the field and on the money. Let's face it, given what might come of the CAR QB situation in 2011, a Derek Anderson returning to form could be a welcome commodity.

It was a long time ago, but at least he has actually played well in and won NFL games.

I hope Cam does well, but if he falters, I could convince myself that DA might not be a complete disaster.

 

[BassNBrew]

It was announced by Rivera after the game last night. Newton has already spoken about it as well, so it's a definite.I got the news originally from Steve Reed (Carolinagrowl on twitter, local beat writer). Schefter has also verified it.

Just so we are clear, I'm talking about the #2 spot not Cam. I konw Cam is the starter. I haven't seen Anderson as the #2 announced anywhere and I follow Steve and Shefter on twitter.

Sorry, my bad.Anderson has NOT been named the backup, by all accounts (I follow nearly every Panther's beat writer imaginable). It's largely considered to be the case, but it has definitely not been formally announced. In fact, the speculation is that Rivera will not even bother to name an official backup, since there is no need for the emergency QB declaration anymore.

Heard in on WFNZ today that Cam starts, Anderson is the backup, and Jimmy is #3. May be bad info, but usually I don't get bad info there.

 

[Stealthycat]

I don't necessarily WANT Cam to suck as a QB, just see the inevitability of it and that he went 1st overall pick based on 14 college games is just astounding to me.

It will be an epic failure for Carolina - and if we can predict it (we being me and many others) why can't pro guys? I know, I know, you can't teach size and ability ........ but there is far more to being an NFL QB than that.

Maybe I'm wrong - I was wrong thinking Bradford would be injured last season

 

[pantherclub]

Maybe it was against UPS drivers, but Anderson looked like a Pro Bowler last night.He was throwing down the field and on the money. Let's face it, given what might come of the CAR QB situation in 2011, a Derek Anderson returning to form could be a welcome commodity.It was a long time ago, but at least he has actually played well in and won NFL games. I hope Cam does well, but if he falters, I could convince myself that DA might not be a complete disaster.

I agree with you and I actually think DA got a raw deal in Cleveland and in AZ. His style has to match a certain offensive scheme but when they match up I think he is a good qb. Unless Cam gets hurt I doubt you see Anderson under any scenario, the Panthers appear hell bent on Cam starting and taking his lumps hoping he can improve on them. Time will tell.

 

[pantherclub]

I don't necessarily WANT Cam to suck as a QB, just see the inevitability of it and that he went 1st overall pick based on 14 college games is just astounding to me.It will be an epic failure for Carolina - and if we can predict it (we being me and many others) why can't pro guys? I know, I know, you can't teach size and ability ........ but there is far more to being an NFL QB than that.Maybe I'm wrong - I was wrong thinking Bradford would be injured last season

It will be interesting to see how Cam performs say around week 5 when there is plenty of tape of him and d coordinators start to ramp up their game plans for him. Keep in mind all he is seeing in the preseason is basic sets.

 

[BassNBrew]

I don't necessarily WANT Cam to suck as a QB, just see the inevitability of it and that he went 1st overall pick based on 14 college games is just astounding to me.It will be an epic failure for Carolina - and if we can predict it (we being me and many others) why can't pro guys? I know, I know, you can't teach size and ability ........ but there is far more to being an NFL QB than that.Maybe I'm wrong - I was wrong thinking Bradford would be injured last season

It will be interesting to see how Cam performs say around week 5 when there is plenty of tape of him and d coordinators start to ramp up their game plans for him. Keep in mind all he is seeing in the preseason is basic sets.

They'll have to toss in a tub because they've already thrown the kitchen sink at him. Hopefully otah will help with this. Clausen would have been killed agaisnt the last couple of first team Ds.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I don't necessarily WANT Cam to suck as a QB, just see the inevitability of it and that he went 1st overall pick based on 14 college games is just astounding to me.It will be an epic failure for Carolina - and if we can predict it (we being me and many others) why can't pro guys? I know, I know, you can't teach size and ability ........ but there is far more to being an NFL QB than that.Maybe I'm wrong - I was wrong thinking Bradford would be injured last season

It will be interesting to see how Cam performs say around week 5 when there is plenty of tape of him and d coordinators start to ramp up their game plans for him. Keep in mind all he is seeing in the preseason is basic sets.

They'll have to toss in a tub because they've already thrown the kitchen sink at him. Hopefully otah will help with this.

Really? The defenses have been pretty vanilla in the pre-season. His best drive came against the Steelers 1B defense.

 

[The Commish]

I cannot wait to post after Cam's 1st NFL game next weekend.My guess?9 completions, 24 pass attempts, 0 TD's, 2 INT's 7 rushes for 27 yards and 0 TD'sAt the end of his first NFL game Cam will look like thishttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zM-D8lp65LQ/SyGrWX8INaI/AAAAAAAABpQ/jg4RJtfuJBc/s400/DeerInHeadlights.jpg

Curious...why can't you wait?

 

[bigunreal]

Newton's "amazing" 25 yard scramble was about as unimpressive as any I've ever seen. He certainly didn't look fast- in fact, he rather waddled through a gaping hole that virtually any QB would have been able to utilize for a huge gain. And yet, the media is trumping it up as something spectacular. Wow. And then they claim it is the "longest QB scramble" in team history. Who even keeps records like that? When has such a stat ever been quoted for any other player? Newton is not even the best running rookie QB- both Locker and Ponder look much more athletic and posted impressive rusing numbers in the preseason.

While this guy with a "cannon arm" was unable to hit his WRs all preseason, the much maligned Tim Tebow threw another beautiful long pass last night for a TD. This guy who "can't play" in the NFL closed the preseason with an incredible 129 QB rating. Don't know, but I suspect that may have led the entire league in preseason. Combined with his sterling performance in the last three games of his rookie season, I'd say it's pretty obvious that Tebow "can play."

The treatment of these two QBs gives news meaning to the term "double standard."

 

[solorca]

Newton's "amazing" 25 yard scramble was about as unimpressive as any I've ever seen. He certainly didn't look fast- in fact, he rather waddled through a gaping hole that virtually any QB would have been able to utilize for a huge gain. And yet, the media is trumping it up as something spectacular. Wow. And then they claim it is the "longest QB scramble" in team history. Who even keeps records like that? When has such a stat ever been quoted for any other player? Newton is not even the best running rookie QB- both Locker and Ponder look much more athletic and posted impressive rusing numbers in the preseason. While this guy with a "cannon arm" was unable to hit his WRs all preseason, the much maligned Tim Tebow threw another beautiful long pass last night for a TD. This guy who "can't play" in the NFL closed the preseason with an incredible 129 QB rating. Don't know, but I suspect that may have led the entire league in preseason. Combined with his sterling performance in the last three games of his rookie season, I'd say it's pretty obvious that Tebow "can play." The treatment of these two QBs gives news meaning to the term "double standard."

Let me get this right, you're saying that Tim Tebow isn't given enough respect? Tim Tebow has been one of the more overhyped players over the past few years, and it's plainly obvious that everyone desperately wants him to succeed...especially the NFL, because it's big business for them.I agree with you about Cam though, he doesn't look ready at all and it could be quite ugly this season.

 

[BassNBrew]

Newton's "amazing" 25 yard scramble was about as unimpressive as any I've ever seen. He certainly didn't look fast- in fact, he rather waddled through a gaping hole that virtually any QB would have been able to utilize for a huge gain. And yet, the media is trumping it up as something spectacular. Wow. And then they claim it is the "longest QB scramble" in team history. Who even keeps records like that? When has such a stat ever been quoted for any other player? Newton is not even the best running rookie QB- both Locker and Ponder look much more athletic and posted impressive rusing numbers in the preseason. While this guy with a "cannon arm" was unable to hit his WRs all preseason, the much maligned Tim Tebow threw another beautiful long pass last night for a TD. This guy who "can't play" in the NFL closed the preseason with an incredible 129 QB rating. Don't know, but I suspect that may have led the entire league in preseason. Combined with his sterling performance in the last three games of his rookie season, I'd say it's pretty obvious that Tebow "can play." The treatment of these two QBs gives news meaning to the term "double standard."

Well John Fox is now the coach of Denver so even if Tebow is the best QB, he won't play.Don't blame Cam that the competition for his job stinks.You guys remind me of the ff posters who pull out the statement, "Well remove his 3 longest runs and his 160/2 day becomes 62/0." Funny part is that while you want to discount anything good, you then make comments such as he should have been intercepted twice. Much like Tebow, I don't care how it looks if he can get the job done.I will admit that as much as I was against this pick, I'm excited to see this guy play. Last night I came home early just to watch one pre-season series. Wouldn't have done that for Von Miller or Green.

 

[meanjoegreen]

I agree with you about Cam though, he doesn't look ready at all and it could be quite ugly this season.

It won't get uglier than last season. I'm ready for the Cam era, and I expect him to struggle this season, but there is no good veteran for him to learn behind, so I think he is in a good situation to learn on the job this season. Most of the team is young, and all of the team is learning a new system, so it's a good year for them to go through the pains together. I'm excited to watch them grow this year.

 

[meanjoegreen]

I should have known my place and inferiority as an NCState fan and not questioned his superior football knowledge. (and if the Cats somehow mange to win) I vow to burn all my worthless NCState gear and buy a Cam Newton jersey for each day of the week if they finish with 8 or more wins.

panthercub probably doesn't own any NC State gear. The dude never has anything good to say when it comes to NC State, just like you.

As a Panther fan, I understand where you're coming from.

As a Panther and NC State fan, having to read his usual melodramatic doomsday negativity is not enjoyable.

Amen

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Maybe it was against UPS drivers, but Anderson looked like a Pro Bowler last night.He was throwing down the field and on the money. Let's face it, given what might come of the CAR QB situation in 2011, a Derek Anderson returning to form could be a welcome commodity.It was a long time ago, but at least he has actually played well in and won NFL games. I hope Cam does well, but if he falters, I could convince myself that DA might not be a complete disaster.

I agree with you and I actually think DA got a raw deal in Cleveland and in AZ. His style has to match a certain offensive scheme but when they match up I think he is a good qb. Unless Cam gets hurt I doubt you see Anderson under any scenario, the Panthers appear hell bent on Cam starting and taking his lumps hoping he can improve on them. Time will tell.

He got a raw deal in AZ He doesn't have the consistency play to play to be NFL quality starter. Perhaps he can thrive as a boom or bust backup

 

[flranger]

Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.

 

[pantherclub]

You would have to have straight brass balls to start newton for your FF team. If you are starting him that pretty much means your season is kaput.

 

[ponchsox]

Auburn is really going to miss Cam Newton. They are losing to Utah State at home late in the game

Auburn scores 2 TDs in 60 seconds to rally. Still, they aren't a top team anymore in the SEC.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..

 

[flranger]

If a Manning owner hasn't added this guy to his roster (if available) he is crazy.

 

[djjosee]

Cam owners here and was about to drop him for Collins, until I realized that Collins has the same bye as Big Ben so I held off ... kinda happy I did. Can't wait to see this guy play

 

[tombonneau]

If a Manning owner hasn't added this guy to his roster (if available) he is crazy.

Have him in both my 14-team leagues where by midseason just about every starting QB is rostered. Hoping for early returns then flip him to Mwnning owner. Just huge upside on this guy as a backup to an ever week starting stud QB. If he stinks you only need him one week anyway, and if he becomes a fantasy force you have sexy trade bait.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Cam Newton is the most overhyped QB of all time. One season of productive college play, combined with a ton of off the field issues, don't add up to NFL success, imho. So far this preseason, he has been abysmal at throwing anything other than the most simple passes. With his alleged "cannon arm," one would think he should be able to hit his WRs once in a while. How about a long completion or two? It's laughable the way ESPN is now attempting to use the most esoteric stats imaginable in order to transform Newton's horrendous preseason performance into something positive. What is this absurd "only four QBs have scrambled for more than 15 yards nonsense?" Has such a ridiculous (and probably not even accurate) statistic ever been used to justify the "greatness" of any other NFL player? What makes the media's agenda clear is the fact that fellow rookie QB Jake Locker, on the same night ESPN, Rotoworld, etc. is trying to hype up Newton's completely pedestrian 26 yard scramble, ran for a 22 yard TD. That's 6 yards longer than Newton's "unbelievable" TD run last week. Funny, I didn't catch a single media mention of how "memorable" Locker's run was. From Trent Dilfer's gay outburst over Newton's totally run of the mill predraft workout to the constant media prediction that this arrogant diva "must be" the #1 draft pick to Warren Moon's racial hucksterism in basically demanding Newton be the #1 pick (and recent demands that he be the opening day starter), no player has been so over promoted by so many powerful forces in the history of sports. When you compare Newton's mediocre preseason efforts to Tim Tebow's 113 QB rating, amidst a clear cut media campaign to end his chances of being a starting NFL QB, even the drunkest fan ought to understand just how "unbiased" these "journalists" are. With the ecstatic hysteria over Newton's 16 yard TD run, and his 26 yard scramble the next game, can one imagine what the media's reaction would be if, in his first NFL start, he rambled through an entire defense for a 40 yard TD run? I think it might be just a bit different than the reaction an actual NFL rookie QB received when he did just that, last season. You know who he is- the guy Merrill Hoge, Boomer Esiason and everyone else who ever worked at ESPN and the NFL Network keep telling us "can't play" in the NFL.

Please tell me you think Tebow is a better QB prospect than Cam Newton....

 

[[scooter]]

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 2800+ pass yards, 13+ TDs, and <16 INTs = 4Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 700+ rush yards = 0

But yeah, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he's going to be a a one-in-a-million player right out of the gate.

 

[matttyl]

Vick had nearly 200 rushing yards in only 2 starts as a rookie. His 2nd year, when he was the full time starter, he had nearly 800 rushing yards. Projecting 700 for Cam should he start all 16 games isn't out of the question.

 

[DeaLerZ]

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 2800+ pass yards, 13+ TDs, and <16 INTs = 4Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 700+ rush yards = 0

But yeah, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he's going to be a a one-in-a-million player right out of the gate.

You just sound like you have something against Cam Newton.. look at the player more objectively... sure maybe the passing yards are a little high... but I was just multiplying what he wrote down.. but i really do not think 2800 yds is that far off.. and definitely not 700yds rushing.. the dude is huge, and is fast and as strong as a RB... and not to mention he has freakish athletic ability.. that is only about 50yds a game on the ground.. with the way he ran in the pre-season in limited action.. I really don't think that is too far off.... but thanks for the stats about previous rookie QB's that were not 6'6" 250lbs ... i am sure those will really help figuring out a "freak" like Cam's potential

Vick had nearly 200 rushing yards in only 2 starts as a rookie. His 2nd year, when he was the full time starter, he had nearly 800 rushing yards. Projecting 700 for Cam should he start all 16 games isn't out of the question.

exactly...

 

[[scooter]]

but thanks for the stats about previous rookie QB's that were not 6'6" 250lbs ... i am sure those will really help figuring out a "freak" like Cam's potential

Number of 6'6", 250lb players to rush for 700 yards in NFL history = 0

 

[baconisgood]

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 2800+ pass yards, 13+ TDs, and <16 INTs = 4Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 700+ rush yards = 0

But yeah, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he's going to be a a one-in-a-million player right out of the gate.

There have been 4 million rookie QBs in the NFL? Damn, thats a lot of seasons I must have missed.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Cam reminds me of Javon Kearse with a slower 1st step... and a bigger arm. I haven't seen a QB quite like him at running the ball. Bigger, faster and stronger than Tebow or Vince Young. Say what you will, I'm excited to see him play. For all those who can't wait to brag about being right or wrong, can we wait 2-3 weeks before the "I told you so," begins?

 

[Daywalker]

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 2800+ pass yards, 13+ TDs, and <16 INTs = 4Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 700+ rush yards = 0

But yeah, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he's going to be a a one-in-a-million player right out of the gate.

And if Newton misses your criteria by 10% then that equals zero right? Oh wait. No.

 

[Daywalker]

If Newton starts 16 games he will be top 15 and not that far behind #10. Start 2 QB he is a steal.

 

[flranger]

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 2800+ pass yards, 13+ TDs, and <16 INTs = 4Number of rookie QBs in NFL history with 700+ rush yards = 0

But yeah, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he's going to be a a one-in-a-million player right out of the gate.

I'm unable to find this number, could you let me know the number of QBs to start their first season as a rookie that led the SEC in rushing the year before with almost 1500 yards and 20 TDs? I'm guessing of all those rookie QBs there are only one.....Cam.

 

[pantherclub]

Cam reminds me of Javon Kearse with a slower 1st step... and a bigger arm. I haven't seen a QB quite like him at running the ball. Bigger, faster and stronger than Tebow or Vince Young. Say what you will, I'm excited to see him play. For all those who can't wait to brag about being right or wrong, can we wait 2-3 weeks before the "I told you so," begins?

In 2 or 3 weeks the argument will be "well he has shown some flashes of making good plays".I was in the Newton needs to start day 1 camp from the beginning until I saw the preseason. Now I think he needs to ride the bench for at least the year. He is a long way off.

 

[duaneok66]

Cam reminds me of Javon Kearse with a slower 1st step... and a bigger arm. I haven't seen a QB quite like him at running the ball. Bigger, faster and stronger than Tebow or Vince Young. Say what you will, I'm excited to see him play. For all those who can't wait to brag about being right or wrong, can we wait 2-3 weeks before the "I told you so," begins?

In 2 or 3 weeks the argument will be "well he has shown some flashes of making good plays".

outstanding post . . .

 

[dgr81]

great start for the great cam newton

 

[massraider]

This could rival the 'What was Houston thinking taking Mario Williams over Reggie Bush and Vince Young??" thread.

Geez. Wait till he learns how to play QB.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..

dude i have to say... I called this one... glad i picked him in the draft in both leagues he has 288 yds passing, 2 Td's, and an INT... go go along with 15 yds rushing, and a TD..... 5:00 left in the 3rd Quarter

thats 27.9 Fantasy points... 2nd in the league in QB scoring and on top of that all it is his first freaking NFL game!!

sorry... had to get a little excited about this one...

15/21 for 315 yds passing already on next drive....that is a 71% completion percentage... he looks like a "freaking natural".. has been threading the needle all freaking day..

 

[John Bender]

Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..

dude i have to say... I called this one... glad i picked him in the draft in both leagues

You called what? You're confirming your call as a good one based on one half of football in the first game of the season? Jesus - this is ridiculous even for the SP

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I certainly didn't have him going off and even doing well today, so gratz to anyone that actually started him in something other than a Best Ball type format where you were probably forced into picking him after 20 something Qb's went off the board.

FBG's certainly didn't have him going off, they had him NO. 25 today at QB, which means in your standard 12 team leagues, he didn't even make it as a QB2.

Same can be said by Steve Smith, I didn't have him either. My opponent did, but he was on his bench.

 

[Stealthycat]

Cam must have read this thread and was motivated

He's done very well - I'm surprised, maybe CAR didn't bomb with this kid after all.

 

[cholo]

Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?

 

[ThePittbully]

Newton just broke the week 1 rookie passing yards record set by Peyton Manning

 

[timschochet]

Best debut by a rookie QB in NFL history?

Best I've ever seen.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Repeat after me:

- As a rookie, Tim Tebow was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- As a rookie, Vince Young was FFL relevant on a bad team.

- In his 2nd yr, Daunte Culpepper was FFL relevant.

**

I won't debate whether he will suck as an NFL QB, since I don't really care. What I will say as this, Cam Newton will absolutly get every snap this year as QB for the Panthers unless he gets hurt. He has been annointed the face of the franchise. Given the fact that he led the SEC last year in rushing with 1473 yards and 20 TDs (to go along with 30 TD passes) I am certain that as the year rolls along he will be FFL relevant. For those who aren't aware, by far the best college defense in the country is played in the SEC.

**

Typical stat line will look like this:

12 of 25, 1 int 0.9 pass TD, 177 yards

7 carries, 44 yards, .7 run TD

-

It's ugly, but it equals about 17 points a week in most leagues. And that matters. At least in our 2 QB start league it does. At 17 points per week he is QB13. At 16 per he is QB17. And he costs $1 right now. And I'll say this, while he sucks as an NFL QB, if Tebow was the starter in Denver he'd be the same. FFL gold I tell you.

I calculated the numbers you came up with...

2832 Pass Yds

13 Pass TD's

16 Interceptions

which I believe are very realistic...

704 Rush Yds

7 Rush TD's

which I believe are also very realistic after watching every Pre-season game with him this year

That gave him 277.7 Fantasy Points which he would have been ranked at #10 Overall QB from last year!!... Rushing Yards are worth 2x as much in my league and add to the overall consistancy of a QB in fantasy football because a running QB is more likely to use his feet when he can't do anything with his arm (where Passing only QB's will put up a few duds every year)...I don't think we put enough emphasis on running QB's at what they can do for "Consistancy", which is more important than the end of the year points in my opinion... a guy like Cam Newton although his passing statistics are rookie like and tend to keep most people away, YOU CANNOT IGNORE HIS RUSHING NUMBERS.. the value of a QB in Fantasy Football that runs like he does (VICK like abilities and more durable) makes his value sky rocket, and he can be more than a mesely bye week filler, but a guy who can give you a potentially huge game when you have a bad matchup/injury/bye-week SIMPLY because of his rushing numbers

DYNASTY/KEEPER get him on your roster in every league.. could lead you to FUTURE championships once he learns how to be an NFL QB...which he will... he has the work ethic of a ####### mule and Athletic Ability unlike anything we have ever seen in this league

REDRAFT- might be worth a roster sport once we watch him play a few games... really this guy has HUGE UPSIDE as a QB #2 like the post says and you can get him for next to nothing now... I wouldn't be suprised to see Waiver Wire pick-ups go crazy for him after a few weeks..

dude i have to say... I called this one... glad i picked him in the draft in both leagues

You called what? You're confirming your call as a good one based on one half of football in the first game of the season? Jesus - this is ridiculous even for the SP

Newton just broke the week 1 rookie passing yards record set by Peyton Manning

do i need to say more... I CALLED THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE A CRAZY WAIVER WIRE PICK UP... AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE FANTASY RELEVANT... SO YES...i think those are both things i can say after watching ONE GAMEquit being such a negative NANCY... you sound like a #####