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I think that will change now. He will be shooting up in the stratsophere. Foster is the cheapest/most efficient way from an ADP standpoint to buy into 200+ touches of the Texans' offense. He might be the cheapest way to buy into any of the Top 10 offenses.
This is what I was thinking, and adding in his receptions makes him a nice flex starter in PPR leagues with big starting rosters....
If tates injury would have happened in preseason week 3 or 4 then Foster might be the steal of the draft. Now as it stands I have a feeling he will be way overvalued come draft time. I could see someone drafting him in the 4rth just because of the offense he is in.Tango said:
I dont necessarily think 4th rd is overvalued for a rb in a top offense with little competition for carries. Basically hes someone you can grab as a low end RB2 even in the 4th round and his potential is much greater.
The unquestioned starting RB for one of the better offences in the NFL is not overrated because they are drafted in the 4th round. He may not be underrated any more based on that, but I wouldn't say overrated either. It is within reason that he could put up similar numbers to Mathews, who some believe is worth a late number one and most believe is worth at least a 2nd round pick.* Both are big backs capacble of playing all three downs and get TD carries for a top passing offence. * Both have 3rd down backs (sproles and slaton) that will take away some carries and catches. * Houston actually has a better OL * AJ is in camp and at the top of his game (VJax may not play at all).Mathews is likely the better talent, but including situation....I'm not sure there is a 2+ round difference between these guys this year.
Foster is screaming up the charts now. If you want him looks like you have to spend a 4th round pick, and if you pick Charles in the 2nd OMG, you have the most hyped backfield in FF historytimschochet said:
Are you just ignoring what the Houston coachs have been saying about the guy all offseason? I'm pretty sure they (who know a little more than you), would disagree with "by midseason, Arian Foster will be back to being a nobody "
Are you ignoring Slaton's fumbling problems last year? Are you ignoring Slaton's fumble last night? Are you ignoring Slaton's 3.3 ypc lasr year?decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
Let me ask you this. Do you think Foster is a 300 touch type guy? Slaton if healthy is going to get some receptions and be the 3rd down back, probably would also get 8-10+ caries a game I would think. I see Foster in that 14-17 range on avg, few receptions too.ThanksAre you ignoring Slaton's fumbling problems last year? Are you ignoring Slaton's fumble last night? Are you ignoring Slaton's 3.3 ypc lasr year?decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
Did you skip last year?3.3 YPC with 7 fumbles in 10 starts isn't going to inspire confidence from coaches.decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.
what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
I see Foster as a 250-260 carry and 30-40 reception player this year, so 300 is the high end but he could be close. I see Slaton averaging closer to 6 carries and 3-4 catches a week for 150+ touches (100 carries + 50 catches).Let me ask you this. Do you think Foster is a 300 touch type guy? Slaton if healthy is going to get some receptions and be the 3rd down back, probably would also get 8-10+ caries a game I would think. I see Foster in that 14-17 range on avg, few receptions too.ThanksAre you ignoring Slaton's fumbling problems last year? Are you ignoring Slaton's fumble last night? Are you ignoring Slaton's 3.3 ypc lasr year?decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
no, i'm stating that he had a nerve injury last season which is why his fumble problem and poor YPC came to lightare you ignoring his play during his rookie season? Are we REALLY going to annoint Foster after 2 games, 1 of which was against a NE team that already had a playoff spot locked up?Seriously?Are you ignoring Slaton's fumbling problems last year? Are you ignoring Slaton's fumble last night? Are you ignoring Slaton's 3.3 ypc lasr year?decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
Annoint? lol...He IS the starting RB on one of the best offensive teams in the league. It's probably time you open your mind to the possibility that he could be very good this year. The nerve injury caused fumbles excuse is pretty funny.no, i'm stating that he had a nerve injury last season which is why his fumble problem and poor YPC came to lightare you ignoring his play during his rookie season? Are we REALLY going to annoint Foster after 2 games, 1 of which was against a NE team that already had a playoff spot locked up?Seriously?Are you ignoring Slaton's fumbling problems last year? Are you ignoring Slaton's fumble last night? Are you ignoring Slaton's 3.3 ypc lasr year?decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
Tiki Barber had 4 years in a row where he fumbled more than Slaton did last year. The three years after that he produced 1500+ yard seasons. I think Slaton showed enough talent in his rookie season to still have a decent place in the offense. To totally dismiss him seems foolish to me although I do see Foster as the workhorse.
decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
I'm surprised by just how much Slaton's stock has fallen.
Through the floor. Right now in a 16 team dynasty he can be had for a 2011 2nd. So roughly the 24th rookie pick a year out.:( I'm surprised by just how much Slaton's stock has fallen.decades of watching football have taught me to ignore what the coaching staff says to the media. We in FF land want to find the "next great sleeper" so we pounce on stuff like this. Sometimes it works, frequently it's wishful thinking.what's funny is that now Slaton is becoming a sleeper.
That makes sense, and I will probably end up with Slaton in my league. *It's just that GK's leash is so tight*
And Thomas Jones is the starter in KC, right? That's what it says on the depth chart and he was with the first team last night. Do you believe that he's going to be the starter week 1 or, to apply the parallel, week 9?The only time the coaches are more misleading about their teams is right after the draft when they tell the world they just picked up 6-7 rookie probowlers...
Not being able to feel his hands because of a nerve injury is funny to you?We've seen players with fumble problems solve those problems before (Tiki Barber) and without a nerve problem...
That's the problem. The SP memory is hovering right around 11 months. Anything before that might as well be 100 years ago...
Just like Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson... oh wait
Are you really going to compare Slaton to J Charles and the roles they will play? Not to mention the offences.And no I don't see the issure of not feeling hands as funny...I see the statement that he is a fumbler due to it as funny...I also find it funny that the Slaton backers don't address the 3.3ypc (ugh!) last year. I get your "hope" on the fumbles, but he just wasn't effective last year...He starts out this year with??? 2ypc and a fumble? hmmm
Agree...I'm actually not as down on Slaton as it would seem...just high on Fosters opportunity. The handcuff makes sense
That's why I traded him a few months ago for Charles Woodson(keeping Arian Foster). I was never even asked to trade him.As a Slaton owner, I am suffering a painful death by 1,000 paper cuts. I can't take it anymore. I wonder if he's working on these issues or needs Tom Coughlin to intervene
The Slaton/Charles comparison is totally legit in that it's preseason and coaches love to jerk around with the players and the depth charts. Remember who Kubiak used to work for - the king of screwing with the starting RB.As for the injury, you think it's funny that I (and many others) make the perfectly logical correlation that lack of feeling in somebody's hands might impact his ability to hold onto a ball? So, instead of acknowledging that the injury might have had something to do with the fumbling you laugh it off. Brilliant.As for the 3.3 YPC, it's a bad stat. One that must be improved upon if he's ever going to be more than a 3rd down back. That being said, do you think that the injury might have made him a little cautious or ineffective? This is where you rip me for blaming the injury again. Silly me, equating a nerve damage in a players neck for impacting his ability to play effectively. I mean, if you can't see lack of feeling in his hands as having an impact on him holding onto the ball, I'd be dreaming if you could comprehend this simple correlation. I'm not saying the guy is going to become Tiki Barber and I'm not saying he's going to become Dominick Davis. He had a really good year his rookie season. He had a very bad soph season. He had an injury that was so bad that he had to have two vertebrae in his neck fused together to resolve it. In your eyes, that's probably akin to an appendectomy, but in mine that's pretty serious. And you have all this faith in Foster who plays on a team that used a 2nd round pick on a RB. The team has a lot more faith in Foster now because they have to, but up until Tate getting injured, Foster was not guaranteed to be the man by any means. But so glad you have so much faith in the guy when he has done a lot less to earn it than Slaton has. Foster's 2009 is no where near Slaton's 2008. But I have to say it again, if anything happened prior to 11 months ago it might as well not have happened...
Tango said:
Lay off the pipe. He's had 122 yards in his first 3 years in his NFL career. Either a RB has it in the early going or he doesn't. He couldn't even beat Lendale White.He's not going to be all of a sudden a top 10 RB.Tango said:He had those three unbelievable highlights from that same college game a few years back that I keep playing and playing on YouTube. He's going to be top 10 this year.
It's relatively easy to get both of these guys in a redraft and dynasty. Well at least it was befoe Tate's injury.
Kinda think he is no diffrent thatn most coaches and while not an intentional lie, there are always things like game situations, available talentetc, which he can fall back on when things play out differently. My guess is that look at 2008 (when Slaton played well) and see if his actions and words follow.
This is some 1st Class Quality Posting here people....Listen up, this man knows things!Nice job Fanatic.... 
