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***Chicago Bears Thread*** Ben Johnson hired. The Resurrection Begins! (5 Viewers)
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JIMGET
Footballguy
I wouldn't say they are an embarrassment to the city of Chicago. Given the record murder and shootings, high taxes, corruption, school union, Madigan, Rahm Emanual, that god awful spaceship of a stadium, and general disfunction and incompetence that is Chicago, cook county, and Illinois; Chicago deserves the bears.
Sadly, I'm finally up for season tickets next year, after signing up 15 years ago. I'm going to pass. I have no interest in supporting this team.
It's not the angry fans, or the pissed fans that the Bears need to worry about. It's the growing legion of indifferent ex fans. After decades of absolutely nothing from this team, this franchise is dead.
Signed, lifelong Illinois resident and newly disinterested bears fan.
Sadly, I'm finally up for season tickets next year, after signing up 15 years ago. I'm going to pass. I have no interest in supporting this team.
It's not the angry fans, or the pissed fans that the Bears need to worry about. It's the growing legion of indifferent ex fans. After decades of absolutely nothing from this team, this franchise is dead.
Signed, lifelong Illinois resident and newly disinterested bears fan.
rschroeder1
Footballguy
While I may not agree with the entirety of your post, the Bears have accomplished something I never thought would happen: I really have no desire to watch. Beautiful day in Chicago yesterday - no Bears for me!
RBM
Footballguy
Really got fired up listing his failures and ended it saying you can’t be wrong that often and expect to keep a job. Had the crowd roaring with him by the end of it.
Insein
Footballguy
The Tick
Footballguy
Yeah, I heard 10K for last game, 8.5K for this game. Guess people thought we actually had a chance to win this one so a few more decided to show. That'll show them!
rschroeder1
Footballguy
I wouldn't say I'm a football expert - just a fan, I never played, coached at any level, etc. I get that young guys like Tarik Cohen and Adam Shaheen may struggle picking up the playbook. They probably aren't alone in that regard, among young players.
But at a certain point, isn't there a certain responsibility from the coaching staff to install a set of plays that might work to their skill sets? It wouldn't be really that hard to give Adam Shaheen a set of maybe 5 or 10 plays where he is the primary target. A TE screen or simple posts and flags. He really can't execute those basic receiving functions? I find it hard to buy.
Similarly, a package of plays for Cohen. OK, he's not the best at pass protect or in the two minute drill. Thankfully that leaves...the rest of the game.
It's derelict, it's bizarre that the Bears put up with it, but in all seriousness, I'm really just at a loss to understand the thinking of this coaching staff. It's almost as if the coaching staff is intentionally trying to stunt the development of Ryan Pace's players.
Maybe someone can provide an example, but I cannot think of a single team in a lost season that refused to use its recently drafted players. I really can't.
But at a certain point, isn't there a certain responsibility from the coaching staff to install a set of plays that might work to their skill sets? It wouldn't be really that hard to give Adam Shaheen a set of maybe 5 or 10 plays where he is the primary target. A TE screen or simple posts and flags. He really can't execute those basic receiving functions? I find it hard to buy.
Similarly, a package of plays for Cohen. OK, he's not the best at pass protect or in the two minute drill. Thankfully that leaves...the rest of the game.
It's derelict, it's bizarre that the Bears put up with it, but in all seriousness, I'm really just at a loss to understand the thinking of this coaching staff. It's almost as if the coaching staff is intentionally trying to stunt the development of Ryan Pace's players.
Maybe someone can provide an example, but I cannot think of a single team in a lost season that refused to use its recently drafted players. I really can't.
flapgreen
Footballguy
JIMGET
Footballguy
Just wanted to put an ending on this story:
I'll go further on this. Bears cut Robbie Gould. Then he brought in Aguayo and paid the $400K for submitting the claim. So Pace KNEW that Barth sucked, brought in a bum and paid him $400k for nothing. Aguayo was, well, Aguayo. So they keep Barth, who sucked and got cut, then the brought in santos, who sucks and has a hurt groin. Then they play against a god awful 49ers team and get pantsed by a kicker...Robbie Gould.
In the meantime, Jake Elliot was claimed from the Bengals practice squad and is KILLING IT in Philly...so you could say "hey, the bears just didn't know about Elliot". Well, he's from Chicago, and he was at the senoir bowl where the bears GARBAGE coaching staff actually had him on their squad and coached him.
So bad, so bad, so so so bad.
I wonder if the video monitor in front of virginia mckasky is showing plays from the 85/86 bears? She probably wouldn't notice.
JIMGET
Footballguy
You could, but then you are relying on the assumption that the coach, GM, and organization is competent and can draft quality players. The bears are not.
Maybe they will trade up to get a player that everyone on the entire planet (except for pace) knows the team in front of you is NOT ever ever ever ever ever going to draft. You know the team that said that they are going to draft Solomon Thomas, the kid that played college at stanford, just down the road from where the 9ers play..
So Fn stupid it is almost not fathomable.
Im sick if hearing how the Bears organization is so diseased, everything they do is doomed to failure. if thats the case, bail out. Why complain about the allegedly inevitable? when all the McCaskeys die out, come on back, but that wont be for decades.
flapgreen
Footballguy
This seriously looks like someone in a junior high game completing a pass while the other team is looking around. https://t.co/QcmbKkl737
-X-
Footballguy
Good as Gould. Something we used to say quite often.
If you'll recall, he really did have a garbage year in 2015 which led to his departure. Was making too much and was complacent in fixing his own issues. Glad he worked him back into a reliable option, but it was just at our expense in more ways than one. Yesterday putting a bullet on it.
I mean, he's right, but that is also part of the problem.#Bears coach John Fox: "Other than Philadelphia, I think we've played competitive games. We've just come up short."
RBM
Footballguy
I will say this- I still have an open mind on Pace, and dont think you can totally judge a GM for at least 3 years because thats just the nature of developing a football team when youre starting with a dumpster fire.
However, I was just thinking about how awful the Saints looked at the end of Pace's term as director of player personnel, and what they look like now talent wise.
Gotta admit thats not a good sign.
However, I was just thinking about how awful the Saints looked at the end of Pace's term as director of player personnel, and what they look like now talent wise.
Gotta admit thats not a good sign.
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rschroeder1
Footballguy
The funny thing about that clip is, the ONE fact I know about Trent Taylor as a keeper player is: TRENT TAYLOR RUNS SLANT ROUTES.
Lol.
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JIMGET
Footballguy
Well, I tried being a bengals fan for a while...then I switched to the bucs. Woof.
I truly believe there is a concern that fans will bail, or more importantly they will become apathetic. The bears are a shadow of their former selves....this franchise is no longer relevant in the NFL.
That is pathetic, and a shame.
The Tick
Footballguy
What happened with kicker, didn't miss anything yesterday. Just don't trust him, or did something else happen, like extra points really wide or something?
People remember what you do in the first week of February. This is why you're a loser Fox.
flapgreen
Footballguy
The Tick
Footballguy
Ah ok... Go figure. I watch at a bar without audio so I often miss stuff like that. That's why I ask a lot of questions in the game threads when I finally notice that a player is missing or something.
flapgreen
Footballguy
A normal coach and GM would looking for younger guys to try out like the eagles did with Elliott. Not Chicago! Let's sign a 35 year old dude with 4 games left in the season.
RBM
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Yet another take on the horrific Bears: Ben McAdoo won 13 games in less than two years and Giants fired him. John Fox has 12 Ws in almost three years and he is preparing for Bengals. Giants acted now because Mara wanted "tactical advantage" in searches. Bears will wait, naturally.
RBM
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Keeping Fox around just reaffirms this franchise has no real dedication to winning. Jimmy Mac us right. As long as they have the same owners, nothing will change. Pace was brought in to change the culture. They're still losing the same ways they've always lost. Unless crazy Virginia and George are holding out to fire both Pace and Fox together, it will be more of the same. If I was a potential head coaching candidate, I wouldn't go to the Bears if I had any other options.
Grimace59
Footballguy
Exactly, just like FA this past season, our bears are seen as a franchise you don't want to play/coach for. Honestly we're barely a step up from the Browns with our front office and ownership problems. Its getting harder and harder to stay a bears fan, got excited with our draft past spring but watching what Fox does and what our ownership continues to do....flapgreen said:
### #### it!
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