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The first round pick to Seattle for Rick Mirer in 1997 was worse. He spent one year with the team. He started three games and went 0-3. Or Greg Olsen traded to Carolina for a third in 2011. He had five excellent seasons, and three seasons over 1000 yards in which he made the Pro Bowl. And the Bears are still chasing TE. The Bears have done stupider things.
Come on you gotta be selling us short there. I guarantee the Bears have done dumber!
I can agree with that, this is a desperate attempt to have middle of the road QB play for the next year or two. Cam and Winston probably had more possible downside so they were off the list.
Yeah it's a 1 year flier at worst. At best he defies expectations and they've got a starter for a few years.
Please stop.
He is not going to magically morph in to a starter. He had a good run with the Eagles. He has done pretty much nothing outside of that.
"No upside" is an interesting way to describe a SB MVP who has reached his peak under a Reid disciple before. Nagy obviously likes Foles.
Nick Foles has been a far better passer than Josh Allen. I'd rather have Foles than Allen in a vacuum where they were both paid equally, and were equally available. Not like the Bears were getting Josh Allen for the 140th pick.Josh Allen has little chance for improvement in his 3rd season. but Nick Foles is going to change his stripes
Depends on your family tendencies.... but aside from that, I never liked Foles in Philly and thought half his success was random luck, bounced pass, missed Ref call, or a defender mistake. He never showed me any real talent more than a BU QB/QB3 type. From all I read, he was a good lockerroom guy, supportive and positive. But on the field, I would rather have several other players from a NFL or Fantasy perspective.
Winston = Cutler. Cam would be too expensive. Trubisky put up better numbers than Dalton last year.
Considering he has played on the Bengals, yes. He has played behind terrible offensive lines. On a team with one of the most poorly run organizations in the league. They make dumb move after dumb move. And he has had some success despite that. So yes, I believe with weapons, and a solid offensive line, he could be better than he has shown in the past.
I believe that Winston can be a knucklehead. But I also think that he was asked regularly to make very difficult throws, On an offense with no running game, and a poor offensive line. Give him a decent running game, protect him, don’t ask him to throw deep consistently, and you might see a better result. He is young, and has all the tools. It is a matter of is he coachable, and placed in the right system can he succeed.
I agree that they have made dumb moves, but the Bengals have had way better weapons than the Bears with perennial all pro AJ Green. The offensive line is horrible though.
I would guess the bears stick with Mitch to start the season at least. Not saying they should but that’s what I would guess.As a Lion fanI really don`t think this is a bad move. Foles can play in the right system. I think he is an upgrade. Is Mitch done now or will he stay as a backup?
As far as I can tell, compensatory picks do apply for a declined option year ONLY for first-round draft picks. Not trying to argue, haha.Hankmoody said:
They didn't decline his 5th year option. The released him. They picked up the option last year.
No offense but this is the take of someone checking highlights and box scores. I’ve lived in the Tampa area since Winston was drafted and watch all their games, Winston is trash. He has the raw physical ability that most crumby back ups don’t, that’s why he looks good at times. But his mental process and ability to run an offense are garbage tier. When you factor him into your game plan to win, he is in the negative column every time. He will be lucky to carve out a career similar to Fitzpatrick, an over capable back up (sometimes starter) who was incapable of developing the mental tools and decision making to succeed long term at the NFL level. I would not want that for the Bears. At least Foles has had success, I hate the trade for him but you can’t take away Big **** Nick’s track record in the post seasontwistd said:
He magically morphed into a starter for the Eagles...twistd said:
Also keep in mind that the price tag of around $15 Million for 2020 with $6 guaranteed in 2021 is cheap compared to Bridgewater, Winston, Newton, Carr, etc. Trading for Foles also doesn't mess with the compensatory formula.
This is largely the take of Matt Williamson. He was a scout. So chances are he didn’t formulate that looking at box scores and highlights.
I don’t like the move but I wouldn’t go that far. Foles has had some performances in high pressure spots than Keenum could never dream of having. I do like that the guy has ice water in his veins. Just thinking of him going down the field on our vaunted D in that playoff game two years ago....impressive.
Not fleeced....you said worst move in team history.
Even if both were equal(I don't believe they are):
