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Chris Henry did it again. (1 Viewer)

The Bengals wasted a 4th round pick on this guy and their 5th round pick this year. A.J. Nicholson, has already been arrested for stealing from a former teammate. let me get this straight, you're in the NFL now, you have a rich contract and an amzing future, yet you want to rob some guy from your college team who doesn't have a thing you culd potentially have? The Bengals, along with the Titans, are perhaps the worst NFL team when it comes to overlooking serious discipline problems to draft an athelete to play football for them.
you forgot about the Ravens.
 
I think at this point, Chris Henry is just seeing exactly WTF he has to do to get some jail time as a pro. Then when he walks out free, he can just give us all the finger showing off that he's an NFL player and has more rights than us normal people.

 
The Bengals wasted a 4th round pick on this guy and their 5th round pick this year. A.J. Nicholson, has already been arrested for stealing from a former teammate. let me get this straight, you're in the NFL now, you have a rich contract and an amzing future, yet you want to rob some guy from your college team who doesn't have a thing you culd potentially have? The Bengals, along with the Titans, are perhaps the worst NFL team when it comes to overlooking serious discipline problems to draft an athelete to play football for them.
you forgot about the Ravens.
Most of the Ravens' discipline problems seem to show up after the guy arrives. I guess they don't seek that kind of guy out; they grow them instead.
 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me. It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone. Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol. To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21? As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad. Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different. I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.

 
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By itself it wouldn't be to bad, but 3 with an outstanding gun, narcotic, and DUI ongoing thrown on top of provideing alcohol to a 15 yr. old girl kicks it up a notch. While by itself it would slide so much of it in a short period of time this incident could just be the straw that broke the camels back.

 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me. It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone. Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol. To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21? As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad. Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different. I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
 
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The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me.  It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone.  Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol.  To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21?  As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad.  Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different.  I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
exactly.. i gave my one year old a sip of beer last week... You do it... I would consider shooting you..i have wasted cap and roster on this bum.. if he cant get his life in order for himself and his family, he should think about all th FFers that were hoping he could be the guy to drive loud mouth (CJ) outta cinci..

 
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The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me.  It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone.  Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol.  To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21?  As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad.  Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different.  I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
I'm not a pro football player, but I was 23 once and I can certainly say there were times when I supplied alcohol to minors (Frat parties, New Year's, wedding parties, all kinds of stuff.) On the face of it, this is a pretty innocuous arrest just like the DUI where he was barely over the legal limit, but like kevinray said, it's the fact that all these arrests and charges are happening within such a close time frame that is just plain bizarre. How dumb can you be?You have to wonder if Henry needs major counseling or something, it's almost as if he's trying as hard as possible to throw his life away.

 
I may be wrong, but it seems that this incident stems from a prior related set of events. If this is correct, then he hasn't engaged in new criminal activity.
True, but it makes his 4th incident (the DUI, previously considered his 3rd incident) that much more inexcusable; i.e. If the guy knew he had a 3rd legal transgression in limbo, why would he drive drunk and face what would become a 4th? At this point, Chris Henry should not leave his house. In fact, he should start calling Simons Delivers if he starts running low on food while he's holed up, and he should hire someone responsible to greet/pay the delivery guy on his behalf. It may already be too late for him.
 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me. It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone. Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol. To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21? As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad. Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different. I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if prosecutors hadn't made a final decision to pursue charges for this prior act until word came out that he got a DUI, and they determined they simply can't look the other way on anything with this guy. I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of different treatment. You are absolutely right that the law is the law and in the grand scheme of things this is a petty violation which might not even be cited under certain circumstances. Yet, Chris Henry was not offering wine to his child in his home; he was renting a public party-pad and supplying booze. I've personally seen parents get off with a warning for hosting teen parties that get a little out of hand, but don't result in anything more than a small nuisance. OTOH, parents (and other party hosts) will almost always be cited legally to the charges Henry is facing when their actions result in a crime or vehicle accident (which to me is a better analogy to the Henry case, which involved accusation of criminal activity tied to the party). A guy trying to liquor up to score with underage chicks in a public motel should not expect any favorable "aw shucks, it's just like a parent having a glass of chiante with his kid over dinner" treatment, and frankly I do not believe he deserves any benefit of doubt or leniency. He should thank his lucky stars no one died in a car accident or (seemingly) actually fell victim to rape at a hotel party he was hosting.Finally, as to how society should judge Henry vs. a dad handing his son a beer over a family campfire, I'd analogize this to how the police might treat a speeder who has had no moving violation in the past 10 years vs. someone who has had 3 violations in the past 6 months. I'd suggest for the first guy it's not a big deal while the 2nd guy clearly has a problem following the law. Another analogy would be the 15 year old who is driving on rural roads with a parent vs. a 15 year old taking the car out alone without permission to hot-rod down mainstreet USA, putting lives at risk. It goes without saying unequal treatment may be applied in each of these situations, "unfairly" from one perspective and perfectly fairly from another. Perfectly applied discretion should result in justice and I think the public is smart enough to look at Henry's transgressions and decide if this guy is a societal problem.

 
You hear that? That's the ink drying on his release papers.

Ohh yeaaaaaaaa :o
Maybe he's secretly pulling a "Lelie" and this is all Henry's sneaky ploy to get released from CIN. Honestly I'm surprised we don't hear more about this type of thing w/ bankrolled 22 yr olds. He's just dumb enough to continually get caught.
 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me. It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone. Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol.
I kind of agree. It seems like the same situation as the "forcible rape" one, with perhaps a prosecutor who wants to salvage some charge, any charge, out of it. Henry seems massively immature and irresponsible, though. That in itself isn't criminal, but he seems to act like age 16 or so.

 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me. It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone. Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol. To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21? As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad. Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different. I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
I'm not a pro football player, but I was 23 once and I can certainly say there were times when I supplied alcohol to minors (Frat parties, New Year's, wedding parties, all kinds of stuff.) On the face of it, this is a pretty innocuous arrest just like the DUI where he was barely over the legal limit, but like kevinray said, it's the fact that all these arrests and charges are happening within such a close time frame that is just plain bizarre. How dumb can you be?You have to wonder if Henry needs major counseling or something, it's almost as if he's trying as hard as possible to throw his life away.
There's also a big difference between a 23 year old college senior supplying alcohol to an 18 year old college freshman at a frat part and supplying alcohol to a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL under less open circumstances. Regardless of what hte law says, in the court of public opinion (which, sadly is sometimes valued more than our actual legal system), it's way different and way worse. Considering his prominence in the public eye and the importance of PR for NFL teams nowadays, it's even more absurd.
 
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Instead of becoming an NFL star, he has chosen to be a "Gansta". His choice tells you what kind of person he is. I really hope the Bengals do not try to get in the way of his goals and lifelong ambitions of becoming a real "OG".

UPDATE

Webster's Dictionary just changed the word "idiot" to "c-hen". Same meaning though.

 
Well, I finally dropped Henry from my Dynasty Team.

Picked up Darius Watts instead.

Someone else can have that headache.

 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me.  It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone.  Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol.  To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21?  As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad.  Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different.  I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
Correct, I don't deny it. That's what I meant when I said "even though the circumstances are different." ;)
 
The more I look at this, the less serious it seems to me.  It appears that the original accusation of forcible rape was recanted by the victim, so the rape accusation is gone.  Statutory rape clearly does not apply because the girl is too old for that charge to apply, regardless of the age difference from Henry.

That leaves the charge of supplying them with alcohol.  To that, I ask you, did you ever share a beer or a glass of wine with your parents before you were 21?  As a former defense attorney, now attorney general, I am not aware of laws that create an exception for underage drinking with mom and dad.  Many of your parents are probably guilty of that crime or a similar crime even though the circumstances are different.  I don't think there's anything earth-shattering here, and we've seen far worse from a lot of players who did not suffer serious consequences.
Whether it's more or less illegal or not, you can't deny that there's a huge difference between parents sharing a glass of wine with their kids, and a pro football player getting random 15-18 year old girls drunk.
I'm not a pro football player, but I was 23 once and I can certainly say there were times when I supplied alcohol to minors (Frat parties, New Year's, wedding parties, all kinds of stuff.) On the face of it, this is a pretty innocuous arrest just like the DUI where he was barely over the legal limit, but like kevinray said, it's the fact that all these arrests and charges are happening within such a close time frame that is just plain bizarre. How dumb can you be?You have to wonder if Henry needs major counseling or something, it's almost as if he's trying as hard as possible to throw his life away.
There's also a big difference between a 23 year old college senior supplying alcohol to an 18 year old college freshman at a frat part and supplying alcohol to a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL under less open circumstances. Regardless of what hte law says, in the court of public opinion (which, sadly is sometimes valued more than our actual legal system), it's way different and way worse. Considering his prominence in the public eye and the importance of PR for NFL teams nowadays, it's even more absurd.
wrongyou don't believe me, just tune into MTV. I caught part of some show that followed a group of sluts-in-training around who were celebrating some bratty skank's sweet 16th birthday celebration. They're dry humping on the dance floor and basically acting 10 years older than they are.

those with teenage daughters likely know what I'm talkin 'bout

 
I agree with you guys who are blasting Henry for his conduct. He's a class A punk to say the least. But is he going to suffer significant legal and NFL consequences as a result of his conduct? I don't know. Other than substance abuse violators and punks like Lawrence Phillips, there are plenty of wayward young punks who turned it around. It seems like it is the RBs who are irredeemable.

Henry is young, very talented, and I'm not ready to write him off yet. No I don't own him in any leagues.

 
I may be wrong, but it seems that this incident stems from a prior related set of events. If this is correct, then he hasn't engaged in new criminal activity.
That we know of......
 
Well, I finally dropped Henry from my Dynasty Team.

Picked up Darius Watts instead.

Someone else can have that headache.
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I don't get what's so funny? Do you really think at this point that Henry is more valuable then someone like Watts? If so feel free to waste the roster spot on him.
 
Well, I finally dropped Henry from my Dynasty Team.

Picked up Darius Watts instead.

Someone else can have that headache.
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I don't get what's so funny? Do you really think at this point that Henry is more valuable then someone like Watts? If so feel free to waste the roster spot on him.
I think he:a. thought you were joking or

b. thinks that Watts is such a tease and headache that you are trading one for another

 
He certainly looks good as gone in Cincy. I can't say that's horrible for any potential value. He wasn't passing CJ or Housh anytime soon & I believe he had a 5-year deal. Someone will quickly snatch him up.

I'd certainly rather take a shot on Henry than Darius Watts.

 
Henry has a very cap friendly contract, so dropping him will not hurt them. He is injured so that is why he hasn't been dropped by the Bengals yet, but he will be. I know tons of Bengals fans and they just want this headache gone. A few of them said they don't care as long as he helps them win, which amazes me because they are the same ones that were talking about how Marvin Lewis will not bring in trouble guys and will only add character to the team. Gotta love that character he is bringing to the team.

 
Per KFFL:

Bengals | C. Henry will have to use breathalyzer to start his carTue, 20 Jun 2006 21:48:36 -0700Barrett J. Brunsman, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Chris Henry will need to blow into a breathalyzer before he can start his car, a Clermont County Municipal Court judge ruled Tuesday, June 20. Judge Victor M. Haddad granted Henry's request to be allowed back behind the wheel as long as whatever car he drives has an ignition interlock system. Henry's attorney, Edward C. Perry, requested that Henry be allowed to drive to and from his job with the Bengals, regardless of the time or day. Assistant Prosecutor Carol Rowe did not object as long as the car had an interlock system.
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