Chris Ivory (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

The Saints pull guys in off the street every year and get results d/t the passing threat.

Can you please list a few examples of guys the Saints pulled off the street that got rushing results?

Pierre Thomas, Khiry Robinson, and Ivory himself down?

These aren't just guys off the streets. The Saints have some really good scouts and have acquired quite a few talented undrafted free agents through the hard work and knowledge of the Saints Scouting dept. and thats not just at Running back they have done it on defensive and offensive line, WR ,QB all over the place. I am not sure how this fits into this discussion topic though. If your trying to use the Saints ability to find these guys as a knock on Ivory youll have to try a bit harder. I don't see any connection.

32 teams passed on each of those guys seven times. By definition that makes them "guys off the streets".

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Never mind.....

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Never mind.....

Powell got more touches yesterday, as the Jets were playing catchup right from jump street, but both were pretty bad against a tough D that gave them little room.Next week once the Sainst get the early lead, it could be more of the same as far as snaps go - but maybe Ivory will have a little extra motivation (not that he should hate the Saints or anything).

Jets are about the biggest Jeckyll & Hyde team this year though and it's not just due to havinga rookie QB.

 

[thehornet]

The Ivory experiment is over. Dropping him this week. So glad I grabbed Powell before week 1.

Fuuuuuuuuuu......

Powell is still the long play here IMO. What's a realistic over / under on how many games Ivory's hamstrings last in a featured role?

Powell sucks and either the Jets see this too or he is injured, they say he is not. In OT they were giving carries to Bohanon rather than Powell when Ivory went to get a squirt of water.

Doesn't say much about Ivory if the guy who sucks is averaging almost an entire yard more per carry, does it? None of them are all that good as NFL RBs, but Powell is the most valuable in FF because he can at least get out of his car at the stadium without pulling something.

you're analysis isn't even worth reading. Powell sucks dude. ivory has averaged almost 5 ypc in his nfl career. start watching games and you might actually learn something.

If anything, they both suck, "dude." Ivory's YPC against dime defenses in NO as a change of pace back is totally irrelevant to what he's capable of as a featured RB against a steady diet of 8 in the box in NY. The Saints pull guys in off the street every year and get results d/t the passing threat.

Ivory's talent was wildly over-rated by a ton of people, obviously you were one of them. Sorry that you invested in him, but halfway through the season it's probably time to man up and admit you were wrong. Ivory's just a guy, and JAGs that can't last more than three weeks without getting hurt are NFL and fantasy detritus. The Jets' 2014 lead RB is almost certainly not on the current roster.

 

[Insein]

The Ivory experiment is over. Dropping him this week. So glad I grabbed Powell before week 1.

Fuuuuuuuuuu......

Yea....

 

[Coeur de Lion]

The Ivory experiment is over. Dropping him this week. So glad I grabbed Powell before week 1.

Fuuuuuuuuuu......

Powell is still the long play here IMO. What's a realistic over / under on how many games Ivory's hamstrings last in a featured role?

Powell sucks and either the Jets see this too or he is injured, they say he is not. In OT they were giving carries to Bohanon rather than Powell when Ivory went to get a squirt of water.

Doesn't say much about Ivory if the guy who sucks is averaging almost an entire yard more per carry, does it? None of them are all that good as NFL RBs, but Powell is the most valuable in FF because he can at least get out of his car at the stadium without pulling something.

you're analysis isn't even worth reading. Powell sucks dude. ivory has averaged almost 5 ypc in his nfl career. start watching games and you might actually learn something.

If anything, they both suck, "dude." Ivory's YPC against dime defenses in NO as a change of pace back is totally irrelevant to what he's capable of as a featured RB against a steady diet of 8 in the box in NY. The Saints pull guys in off the street every year and get results d/t the passing threat.Ivory's talent was wildly over-rated by a ton of people, obviously you were one of them. Sorry that you invested in him, but halfway through the season it's probably time to man up and admit you were wrong. Ivory's just a guy, and JAGs that can't last more than three weeks without getting hurt are NFL and fantasy detritus. The Jets' 2014 lead RB is almost certainly not on the current roster.

Let's see, active 8 games, one good start this week, one game where he didn't kill you in week 7, one 5 pointer, under 3 points 5 times. He's RB49 on the year.

You're right -- STUD. Clearly a league winning RB2 pick.

 

[rockaction]

I'll post what I always post here about him.

 

[donkshow]

2 games where he's been given more than 12 carries he's gone off.

Give him a chance, and he can dominate. He's a home run hitter like CJ. He'll have a bunch of short runs, but the value is in the home run. The more he runs, the more of a chance he has to hit that home run.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He looked real good yesterday - showing his speed in addition to his tough running style. Powell also looked good in a far more limited role.

The Saints run D isn't very good, and the Jets game plan was to "ground and pound" in this one, and kept the game close enough to allow it.

Ivory and Powell's usage may be tough to predict in fantasy rendering both risky starts, but both are good NFL RBs. If Ivory was able to stay healthy, he would be a better than average RB. It's becoming clear he isn't just a product of the Saints "system", especially in light of the Sains running game looking incredibly bad, for the most part, this season.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Just stay healthy dude. He's too talented not to get a 2:1 split over Powell if he could just stay healthy.

 

[rockaction]

Can't do much if you're not in the game while they run the wildcat repeatedly.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Chris Ivory revealed after Sunday's loss to the Ravens that he'll likely undergo an MRI on his injured ankle.
Although Ivory played through the injury, he told reporters it happened on his first carry of the game. He finished with nine for 35 yards. Asked whether it's a high or low ankle sprain, Ivory replied "both." That doesn't help us much, of course, but Ivory's status is now uncertain for Week 13 against the Dolphins. Bilal Powell will be an every-down back if Ivory can't play.

Inevitable.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chris Ivory said the ankle sprain he sustained during Sunday's loss at Baltimore is "both" an upper and lower.

Ivory rolled the ankle during the first quarter but stayed in the game, finishing with nine carries for 35 yards on 12 snaps. Of course, if he had a true high-ankle sprain then he wouldn't have been able to play through it. Ivory is expected to have an MRI Monday, putting Bilal Powell back on all fantasy radars.

Related: Bilal Powell

Source: New York Daily News

 

[lod01]

No surprise. He was way past his average # of carries before the next injury.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

man I really liked him this week vs Miami too

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

And to the surprise of exactly no one, he's injured again.

 

[Faust]

Who is more likely to finish a game without sustaining an injury: Ivory or Danny Amendola?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

This makes Powell an excellent start going forward, no?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

This makes Powell an excellent start going forward, no?

If Ivory is out, I'd say he's no worse than a Top 15 RB option in PPR leagues the next 2 weeks (vs. Mia, vs. Oak; both games at home)

[Assuming Ivory is out] To me, he's the clear #1 waiver option (if he was dumped back) given the upcoming couple of games & he's about as much of a confident start [PPR] as you can get off the waiver this time of year.

 

[SameSongNDance]

This makes Powell an excellent start going forward, no?

Well, he was solid when Ivory was out but aside from one great game against BUF he was just okay. I'd call him a low ceiling, high floor RB2 in PPR leagues.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Who is more likely to finish a game without sustaining an injury: Ivory or Danny Amendola?

Ooh, ooh! I know this one, it's a trick question. Darren McFadden!

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chris Ivory (ankle) was limited in Wednesday's practice.

During the portion of practice open to the media, beat writers observed Ivory moving between the sideline with trainers and back to his position group. He obviously didn't do much, and his status for Week 13 remains up in the air.


Source: ESPN New York

 

[Maelstrom]

Any updates on Ivory?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Jesus...as someone who owns Ivory and Powell, I needed a clear decision (like Ivory not playing at all). This sucks, no idea which way to go.

 

[Maelstrom]

Jesus...as someone who owns Ivory and Powell, I needed a clear decision (like Ivory not playing at all). This sucks, no idea which way to go.

From Twitter:

@JeneBramel practiced fully on Friday, probable to play, wide range of possible carries though
Yah, basically he is "playing" but no idea how much work he'll end up getting.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

He practiced in full on Friday and is listed as probable.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Jesus...as someone who owns Ivory and Powell, I needed a clear decision (like Ivory not playing at all). This sucks, no idea which way to go.

From Twitter:

@JeneBramel practiced fully on Friday, probable to play, wide range of possible carries though

Yah, basically he is "playing" but no idea how much work he'll end up getting.

Right. This happened before and he came out and had like 20+ carries, if I remember correctly. I'm leaning towards Ivory, seems like they're content to run him into the ground as long as he's healthy enough, and repeat every time he's recovered from an injury.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Actually, truthfully I'm leaning towards avoiding this mess entirely and just starting both Pierre Thomas AND Darren Sproles to guarantee I get at least one RB's worth of points.

 

[Insein]

Actually, truthfully I'm leaning towards avoiding this mess entirely and just starting both Pierre Thomas AND Darren Sproles to guarantee I get at least one RB's worth of points.

Picked up powell this week if ivory was out. Can't play him with this ambiguous info. I'm going Pierre Thomas too. Thankfully I'm in the playoffs just playing for a bye. Less stress.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Well, I've flip-flopped back to Ivory now. So going Thomas and Ivory. Miami Run D is not good.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Chris Ivory (ankle) is practicing in full this week.

Ivory carried the rock 12 times for 61 yards last week against the Dolphins on his gimpy ankle. He'll be the lead back Sunday against the Raiders but is just a flex option. Opposing defenses can load the box to stop the run with Geno Smith playing so terribly. Bilal Powell will mix in on passing downs.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

 

[Coeur de Lion]

LOL.

Just curious, what's there to like about Ivory at this point? After four years of meh on two different teams, he's pretty clearly a backup / committee level NFL RB at this point. He doesn't catch the ball or score many TDs (the offense sucks), and he couldn't even take the lead job from Bilal freaking Powell. I guess playing in 15 games was a nice surprise, but the dude was RB56 in PPG last year. He was behind random WW scrubs like Bobby Rainey, Chris Ogbannaya, and Brandon Jacobs.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.

If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 148 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

ETA: Corrected total number of carries over last 10 games.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.

If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 103 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

yeah was thinking of offerin a mid-2nd pick. people holding him still seem to want more than that.

Shrug

 

[Terpman22]

Yes. He is certainly a buy low. Look at the post a couple above. I was on the train, and still am. This will be my last year on the train though. With that said, you have people that liked him and will give up hope on him this year. And you will also have the people waiting to laugh at you when you take him. This is a perfect storm for a buy low, since the only thing standing in your way is really whether he will be a value or not. You won't have to worry about a ton of people not willing to trade him b/c they like him so much.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

 

[Terpman22]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

Don't forget that Rex likes him too.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.

If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 103 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

yeah was thinking of offerin a mid-2nd pick. people holding him still seem to want more than that.

Shrug

I screwed up on the carries over the last 10 games, and have since edited it. He averaged 14.8 carries/game over that stretch. A modestly better offense, and a starting role from week 1 on could put him in line for 275 carries.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

Don't forget that Rex likes him too.

Rex isnt calling the shots or they would of never drafted Geno smith

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Yes. He is certainly a buy low. Look at the post a couple above. I was on the train, and still am. This will be my last year on the train though. With that said, you have people that liked him and will give up hope on him this year. And you will also have the people waiting to laugh at you when you take him. This is a perfect storm for a buy low, since the only thing standing in your way is really whether he will be a value or not. You won't have to worry about a ton of people not willing to trade him b/c they like him so much.

What price we talking here? RB41 seems steep to me for him considering he stayed pretty healthy and only managed a RB56 PPG finish last year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

Good point sometimes trading for these marginal players before the draft and Free agency can burn you

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

I'm not sure I would go as far as saying it's "pretty likely" but it's certainly possible. Powell is a FA for one thing, so he may not be back and I'm guessing that Mike Goodson will not be back. It remains o be seen if they add a back that will supplant Ivory though.

As far as your ther post - Ivory looked pretty good down the stretch until he got hurt in Week 17. He's never going to be a ppr monster but his TD production could/should increase if the team adds some playmakers, which is an offseason priority.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 103 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

yeah was thinking of offerin a mid-2nd pick. people holding him still seem to want more than that.Shrug

I screwed up on the carries over the last 10 games, and have since edited it. He averaged 14.8 carries/game over that stretch. A modestly better offense, and a starting role from week 1 on could put him in line for 275 carries.

275 carries? Taking out week 4 which Ivory missed and week 17 where he left early it was still a pretty even split between Ivory and Powell 177 to 141 in carries. Obviously using touches instead of just carries slants it more towards Powell. The Jets had a true RBBC last year. And given his injury history, it's probably unwise to pencil Ivory in for 16 fully healthy games as a starter. And it's pretty unlikely that the Jets just stand pat at RB and leave Bilal Powell as Ivory's stiffest competitor for touches.

Last year I thought Ivory was hugely over-rated, but could at least somewhat understand the "well he might stay healthy" and "NO doesn't feature a power style RB" optimism. Well, Ivory stayed healthy, and still split with a guy who really isn't good, and was still total FF garbage. I probably sound like a #### here, but I just genuinely don't understand the ongoing fascination / hype around a RB who is the definition of JAG for me.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

I'm not sure I would go as far as saying it's "pretty likely" but it's certainly possible. Powell is a FA for one thing, so he may not be back and I'm guessing that Mike Goodson will not be back. It remains o be seen if they add a back that will supplant Ivory though.

As far as your ther post - Ivory looked pretty good down the stretch until he got hurt in Week 17. He's never going to be a ppr monster but his TD production could/should increase if the team adds some playmakers, which is an offseason priority.

The issue isn't necessarily with someone being brought in to totally supplant Ivory -- it's with any old JAG RB being able to come in and siphon off enough work to destroy any FF value for Ivory. I own Powell x3 in dynasty, but he's pretty clearly no great shakes as an NFL RB. Yet he was still good enough to force a 50 / 50 ish timeshare with a largely healthy Ivory last year. That makes it hugely unlikely, IMO, that Ivory as a player is ever going to be able to demand the percentage of touches necessary to be fantasy viable, considering he's one of the most one-dimensional RBs in the entire NFL.

 

[Terpman22]

Ivory did not stay healthy last year. For the record. Was battling hammy injuries all through camp. Powell is a FA. Yes, Rex does not call GM shots, but he does call coaching decisions once the season starts. Rex has publicly said he likes Ivory a few times. He has a cap #, so he won't be cut.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 103 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

yeah was thinking of offerin a mid-2nd pick. people holding him still seem to want more than that.Shrug

I screwed up on the carries over the last 10 games, and have since edited it. He averaged 14.8 carries/game over that stretch. A modestly better offense, and a starting role from week 1 on could put him in line for 275 carries.

275 carries? Taking out week 4 which Ivory missed and week 17 where he left early it was still a pretty even split between Ivory and Powell 177 to 141 in carries. Obviously using touches instead of just carries slants it more towards Powell. The Jets had a true RBBC last year. And given his injury history, it's probably unwise to pencil Ivory in for 16 fully healthy games as a starter. And it's pretty unlikely that the Jets just stand pat at RB and leave Bilal Powell as Ivory's stiffest competitor for touches.

Last year I thought Ivory was hugely over-rated, but could at least somewhat understand the "well he might stay healthy" and "NO doesn't feature a power style RB" optimism. Well, Ivory stayed healthy, and still split with a guy who really isn't good, and was still total FF garbage. I probably sound like a #### here, but I just genuinely don't understand the ongoing fascination / hype around a RB who is the definition of JAG for me.

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

I'm not sure I would go as far as saying it's "pretty likely" but it's certainly possible. Powell is a FA for one thing, so he may not be back and I'm guessing that Mike Goodson will not be back. It remains o be seen if they add a back that will supplant Ivory though.

As far as your ther post - Ivory looked pretty good down the stretch until he got hurt in Week 17. He's never going to be a ppr monster but his TD production could/should increase if the team adds some playmakers, which is an offseason priority.

The issue isn't necessarily with someone being brought in to totally supplant Ivory -- it's with any old JAG RB being able to come in and siphon off enough work to destroy any FF value for Ivory. I own Powell x3 in dynasty, but he's pretty clearly no great shakes as an NFL RB. Yet he was still good enough to force a 50 / 50 ish timeshare with a largely healthy Ivory last year. That makes it hugely unlikely, IMO, that Ivory as a player is ever going to be able to demand the percentage of touches necessary to be fantasy viable, considering he's one of the most one-dimensional RBs in the entire NFL.

It wasn't 50/50 after week 6 though. Ivory got the lion's share. 148 to 89 carries. And that includes the week 17 game where Ivory got knocked out and Powell had 21 carries to Ivory's 5. If the numbers from the previous 9 games would have held true it would have been more like 160 to 75.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

I'm not sure I would go as far as saying it's "pretty likely" but it's certainly possible. Powell is a FA for one thing, so he may not be back and I'm guessing that Mike Goodson will not be back. It remains o be seen if they add a back that will supplant Ivory though.

As far as your ther post - Ivory looked pretty good down the stretch until he got hurt in Week 17. He's never going to be a ppr monster but his TD production could/should increase if the team adds some playmakers, which is an offseason priority.

The issue isn't necessarily with someone being brought in to totally supplant Ivory -- it's with any old JAG RB being able to come in and siphon off enough work to destroy any FF value for Ivory. I own Powell x3 in dynasty, but he's pretty clearly no great shakes as an NFL RB. Yet he was still good enough to force a 50 / 50 ish timeshare with a largely healthy Ivory last year. That makes it hugely unlikely, IMO, that Ivory as a player is ever going to be able to demand the percentage of touches necessary to be fantasy viable, considering he's one of the most one-dimensional RBs in the entire NFL.

That's misleading though. Ivory was injured during training camp/preseason so Powell "won" the starting RB position heading into the season - as Ivory healed up and gained the staff's confidence starting around Week 7 he was the back getting the lion's share of the carries. From Week 7 on he averaged 14 carries a game, which includes 5 carries in Week 17 where he left with injury (it also includes a 34 carry gae against the Saints).

Ivory has his warts. He's not going to catch a lot of passes and his violent running style will lead to him getting banged up, but he started looking like a potential lead back once he was given that role.

You sell Powell a little short as well. He's improved much since his rookie season and he was a Matt Waldman favorite during the draft process. He's not a great back and maybe he's a "JAG", as your so fond of saying - but he's a solid NFL runner and is kind of like a poor man's Pierre Thomas, in that he does everything well.

Ultimately you're probably right that Ivory will never be a great fantasy option, especially in ppr leagues. Adding some more TDs next season can make him useful though.

 

[False Start]

Bump

thinking of trying to snag Ivory in some dyno's

Dare I say buy low?

His ADP over at DLF is 101. (RB41) I offered him to a few different owners this week for players in that area. Found no interest.

If I were looking for positives, I'd say he had 34 total carries for the first 6 weeks of the season last year. Then he had 103 over the next 10 games. Over that 10 game span he had 4 games where he had 98+ yards rushing.

He definitely moved ahead of Bilal Powell over that stretch of the season. He did get nicked up week 17, and that probably cost him 15 carries.

Also, the Jets were pathetic on offense last year. I'm not saying they are going to turn into the Broncos in 2014, but I think they can at least be better. That would at least make the pie a little bit bigger to divide.

yeah was thinking of offerin a mid-2nd pick. people holding him still seem to want more than that.

Shrug

I screwed up on the carries over the last 10 games, and have since edited it. He averaged 14.8 carries/game over that stretch. A modestly better offense, and a starting role from week 1 on could put him in line for 275 carries.

I am a believer, he averaged 4.6 ypc last season. A year in the offense a healthy hammy and a few more carries this guy could be a good RB2 or flex guy. Rex does love him and he is the GMs guy since he brought him in. He is in no jeopardy of being cut this year and is due over 3 mil, he will get another shot this year and if he does well like I think he will he will be on everyones radar again in 2016.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The Jets are probably pretty likely to bring in a FA or draft a RB IMO. If you are a true believer in Ivory, I'd wait to try to buy him until immediately after that happens. Nothing is going to happen in the next few months to drive his value up.

Don't forget that Rex likes him too.

Rex isnt calling the shots or they would of never drafted Geno smith

Rex is still the HC and it was Idzik who traded a 4th round pick to acquire Ivory - so either way he has the backing of the Jets' brass.