Chris Johnson 2012 (1 Viewer)

[boonesfarm4me]

Wondering if he's just lost it.. Tired of excuses. I don't own him but listening to an offer for him..

 

[LittlePhatty]

He has gotten paid and he is not willing to stick it inside and get the tough yards.

He's never been that kind of runner, ever. He's always been the kind of guy to wait for a hole. If the holes aren't there, he tries to break it outside. It's feast or famine, and it does depend greatly on his O-line.

 

[jurb26]

Anyone see any CJ trades go down recently? I'd love to see the current selling price.

 

[duaneok66]

He has gotten paid and he is not willing to stick it inside and get the tough yards.

He's never been that kind of runner, ever. He's always been the kind of guy to wait for a hole. If the holes aren't there, he tries to break it outside. It's feast or famine, and it does depend greatly on his O-line.

that's my point. He needs to show some effort and get the tough yards. Why wouldyou wait for something that may never come?

 

[Sitch]

Anyone see any CJ trades go down recently? I'd love to see the current selling price.

Right around the beginning of pre-season, I traded Wallace and Spiller for CJ and Hankerson. Oof, big time. Not feeling so hot about that after 1 week...but it IS only 1 week.

 

[cracKer]

I'm gonna get burned for comparing him to Barry Sanders' boom or bust style....but I did. CJ will get his, probably not 2k worth or anything near it, but enough to make his end of year stats respectable. He had a bad game, better days to come.

 

[sammy8887]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

 

[kencav]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

Jim Brown might have gotten 5 more yds "putting his head down".....still no point only 9 rush ydsBetter days ahead hang tough CJ2K owners!

 

[farroki]

CJ4 is a sell low, get whatever you can, abandon ship, he reminds me of Eddie George at the end of his career, or Tomlinson in his last year with the Chargers. He is an absolute turd nugget.

-CJ4 owner

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

The o-line got dominated a lot last year. Why would anyone expect the o-line to suddenly get better?

 

[Avery]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

The o-line got dominated a lot last year. Why would anyone expect the o-line to suddenly get better?

... without giving away too much subscriber content...

Team-by-team Offensive Line Breakdowns By Matt Bitonti

Tennessee Titans

Overall rank:1

Run Blocking rank:1

The Titans have an outstanding offensive line... [snip]

Overall, this is a tough and rugged group, clearly the best line in the NFL, based on our grading criteria.

 

[kencav]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

The o-line got dominated a lot last year. Why would anyone expect the o-line to suddenly get better?

... without giving away too much subscriber content...

Team-by-team Offensive Line Breakdowns By Matt Bitonti

Tennessee Titans

Overall rank:1

Run Blocking rank:1

The Titans have an outstanding offensive line... [snip]

Overall, this is a tough and rugged group, clearly the best line in the NFL, based on our grading criteria.

Yeah I know.....part of my decision to draft CJO was based on this "intel"From our FBG daily e mail opening paragraph....

"We email your limited-edition pick on the first of each month. Not interested? Skip it free of charge. Interested? We have free shipping and returns are easy. And unlike Chris Johnson last year, we don't disappoint. Go ahead, give it a try. "

Interesting given the above post, to say the least. Hey I know you cant be right all the time but this was a pretty gross error of apraisal.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'd be hard pressed to pick whether Chris Johnson or Michael Griffin had the worse game yesterday. Both guys made mistake after mistake and never came up with the big plays to make up for those gaffes. CJ gets a little bit more of a pass since it's not his fault that on his 11 carries, he was hit behind the LOS 8 times. Not a good sign for two guys who have gotten big paydays over the past 14 months.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/10/3308497/tennessee-titans-daily-links-shut-up-and-play-edition

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

The o-line got dominated a lot last year. Why would anyone expect the o-line to suddenly get better?

... without giving away too much subscriber content...

Team-by-team Offensive Line Breakdowns By Matt Bitonti

Tennessee Titans

Overall rank:1

Run Blocking rank:1

The Titans have an outstanding offensive line... [snip]

Overall, this is a tough and rugged group, clearly the best line in the NFL, based on our grading criteria.

Rotoworld is high on them as well. Don't get the love.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

Sounds like the Oline got dominated yesterday...

one game is too little to come to that conclusion but certainly the situation bears watching. the Titans signed Lutui from the street, that could be a sign that Leroy Harris is in trouble. I thought Velasco would be fine instead of Amano, maybe that was wrong. Most troubling was Michael Roos getting toasted by Chandler Jones on that strip sack. Overall I had the Titans as the best line in football and after week 1 I might have to change that. The line certainly didn't look good. But it was the Pats and they were playing from behind. Maybe against a different opposition they will produce.oh and fwiw I own CJ in several leagues so I'm right with you guys feeling the pain. keep in mind that In the end Offensive line can only do so much. The Cleveland Browns have a great line but a terrible QB right now. Does it mean joe thomas sucks, no but it means that the defenses don't fear the pass. Defenses will fear Hass more than Locker probably.

 

[Matt Bitonti]

The o-line got dominated a lot last year. Why would anyone expect the o-line to suddenly get better?

long story short I had the Titans line getting better because of Steve Hutchinson and because of the coaching of Munchak/Matthews, 2 HOF'er offensive linemen. Maybe Hutch is done. It's too small of a sample size to come to that conclusion. end of the day this is probably of the Titans' toughest matchups, they will have better days than against the Pats, who historically own them.

 

[Goat Herders]

The issue with the line is that they have two very good tackles but the interior is awful. The center position has been below average since Mawai left. If the guards can't do anything either then they'd be best off running between stevens and Roos/Stewart. As said, Johnson is not a runner who puts his head down and guts out 3 yard runs. He has always been a 1. 2, -3, 24... Kind of runner.

 

[donkshow]

The issue with the line is that they have two very good tackles but the interior is awful. The center position has been below average since Mawai left. If the guards can't do anything either then they'd be best off running between stevens and Roos/Stewart. As said, Johnson is not a runner who puts his head down and guts out 3 yard runs. He has always been a 1. 2, -3, 24... Kind of runner.

Yep. You'll rarely see a statline of 6, 7, 8, 5, 6, 6, 7, 4, 6, 7 getting all of his yards. It'll be 3-4 big plays that'll propel him over the century mark in a game. Not a bunch of small runs.

 

[meyerj31]

I'm currently trying to trade him for Lynch if that is interesting to anyone. Lynch didn't have a ton of room this Sunday either but grinded out 94 yards. And he doesn't come off the field in passing situations like CJ has been doing.

 

[rickyg]

CJ4 is a sell low, get whatever you can, abandon ship, he reminds me of Eddie George at the end of his career, or Tomlinson in his last year with the Chargers. He is an absolute turd nugget.-CJ4 owner

Lol bitter much? I hear ya. I own him in my dynasty league under a long contract I signed him to after his 2k season. Last year he spent most of the ear on my bench and after week 1 he will do the same again. I am fortunate to have that luxury as I have better options. But for those that drafted him in rd 1 of redrafted this year...gonna be a long frustrating season. I have no doubt he will have his games against the lower end run defenses but he is no longer a must start stud. Start him when the matchup is right. Keep him on your bench otherwise. I realize that that is a hard pill to swallow for a 1st rd pick but that is your only choice outside of trading him for maybe a high end wr2 and takin your lumps.

 

[kencav]

The issue with the line is that they have two very good tackles but the interior is awful. The center position has been below average since Mawai left. If the guards can't do anything either then they'd be best off running between stevens and Roos/Stewart. As said, Johnson is not a runner who puts his head down and guts out 3 yard runs. He has always been a 1. 2, -3, 24... Kind of runner.

As a CJO owner this is the best post I have seen in this forum topic.CJO is the SAME runner he was during the epic 2000 yd season.....IN TERMS OF STYLE. Deceased OC Mike Heimendiger(sp?) had a cut back blocking scheme in almost every concievable formation, totally playing to his strengths. The problem sure is partly CJO but mainly an offense not designed around him with an OC- PALMER- that has not grasped how to use him properly. And yes the interior line has issues.Arian Foster might have churned ahead for a few more yards....but thats it. Lets hope the 2 former all pros figure this out

 

[humpback]

I have a feeling things might not be much better this week- SD did a great job against McFadden (on the ground at least), and this game is in SD.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Some of the conversation above reminds me of the reverse of some of the conversations about how some players only produce in "garbage time." At which point someone wise says, well it doesn't really matter if it's skill or opportunity or because the defenses are playing loose, points are points are points.

Well it doesn't matter if Johnson is awesomely talented, or if it's the bad line play or if it's the playcalling or Locker's style, Johnson isn't cutting it.

Almost 1500 total yes, but just 4 Tds in 17 games is bad.

I'm just curious, as I looked for a thread on this but did not find it exactly, how do people feel about that whole picks (say) 6-12 issue now? I mean Johnson vs McFadden, Charles, Forte, Brees, Brady, etc. - I would still say finding one of the few full time RBs left in the NFL is always worth it.

 

[GOroute]

tough to say on CJnon2K. on 1 hand he still has the potential and on the other it is the same thing every week. an excuse & potential. for what its worth here is an offer i have for CJnon2K. this is a 0.5ppr.

I Give:

CJnon2K

Den.Moore

I Get:

Jennings

Wallace

Quizz

i know a few of you have asked what the market for CJ is- well above is one trade I know of personally.

 

[Statcruncher]

I don't own Chris Johnson but I would jump on that trade, getting Wallace and Jennings is sweet.

 

[GOroute]

I don't own Chris Johnson but I would jump on that trade, getting Wallace and Jennings is sweet.

i do think NE is going to have a very good de. but tenn may have qb issues. plus Britt was out.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.

ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

 

[Banger]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

 

[Dentist]

chris johnson will be riding my bench thanks to spiller.

waste of a pick, but i feel like a healthy spiller will perform like a 2nd round pick over the next month.

not all is lost

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

 

[Banger]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

 

[Grahamburn]

What we need are more clever nicknames.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Just got offered Harvin and Mcgahee for him... scared to cut ties with him so quickly but this seems like a must do.

no brainer

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

I still have Rice and Charles. Now have A Johnson, Colston, S Johnson plus Torrey Smith/Lloyd at flex.I think Colston will be more consistent than CJ. If he had shown anything I would have hung onto him.

 

[doeseatplace]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

I still have Rice and Charles. Now have A Johnson, Colston, S Johnson plus Torrey Smith/Lloyd at flex.I think Colston will be more consistent than CJ. If he had shown anything I would have hung onto him.

I think its great value. How many of us will be here week 12 wishing we could get Davone Bess for Johnson; if you've given up and decided you're selling, take what you can get, and Colston is better return than I would expect after that 4 yd debacle

 

[Banger]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

I still have Rice and Charles. Now have A Johnson, Colston, S Johnson plus Torrey Smith/Lloyd at flex.I think Colston will be more consistent than CJ. If he had shown anything I would have hung onto him.

I think its great value. How many of us will be here week 12 wishing we could get Davone Bess for Johnson; if you've given up and decided you're selling, take what you can get, and Colston is better return than I would expect after that 4 yd debacle

I guess my point is given up after week 1? If you were so iffy, not sure why you drafted him.

 

[Goat Herders]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

I still have Rice and Charles. Now have A Johnson, Colston, S Johnson plus Torrey Smith/Lloyd at flex.I think Colston will be more consistent than CJ. If he had shown anything I would have hung onto him.

I think its great value. How many of us will be here week 12 wishing we could get Davone Bess for Johnson; if you've given up and decided you're selling, take what you can get, and Colston is better return than I would expect after that 4 yd debacle

I guess my point is given up after week 1? If you were so iffy, not sure why you drafted him.

 

[12punch]

at this point, I have to wonder how many in here are actually defending CJj/k and how many are really just defending their poor decision making.

nobody ever wants to admit to getting suckered.

 

[None_More_Black]

Is Ringer a sneaky pickup?

 

[sammy8887]

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/11/3317136/tennessee-titans-patriots-film-review-chris-johnson-struggles

More good stuff from this site about CJ's struggles...

 

[VaTerp]

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/9/11/3317136/tennessee-titans-patriots-film-review-chris-johnson-strugglesMore good stuff from this site about CJ's struggles...

Excellent breakdown and analysis.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Drafted him at 2.06 (10 team). Just traded him straight up for Colston.ETA traded to FJax owner who needed a RB

yikes

yikes for me drafting him that high, yikes for trading away my 2nd round pick after 1 week, or yikes for getting Colston?

I don't know your roster but seems a little early to dump for just Colston. Just not a big Colston fan.

I still have Rice and Charles. Now have A Johnson, Colston, S Johnson plus Torrey Smith/Lloyd at flex.I think Colston will be more consistent than CJ. If he had shown anything I would have hung onto him.

I think its great value. How many of us will be here week 12 wishing we could get Davone Bess for Johnson; if you've given up and decided you're selling, take what you can get, and Colston is better return than I would expect after that 4 yd debacle

I guess my point is given up after week 1? If you were so iffy, not sure why you drafted him.

I screwed up. Would rather fix it in week 1. I also didn't know when I drafed him that I would be able to get Charles 2 rounds later.

 

[Manster]

Well, after week one I'm glad I passed on him and went with DMC. And actually, a lot influence in the SP helped me make my decision.

 

[matttyl]

I've been offered CJ from the current owner for Vernon Davis and Mendy in a dynasty league. Bonus is that I play this other team this week and this would give him one less option to use against me. Just letting others know how far his value has sunk after just one week!

 

[zandbak]

at this point, I have to wonder how many in here are actually defending CJj/k and how many are really just defending their poor decision making.nobody ever wants to admit to getting suckered.

At this point, we have to wonder why you're here. All you've done is troll this thread while admitting you don't own Chris Johnson and patting yourself on the back because of it.

 

[donkshow]

I'm inquiring about him in my PPR league. We'll see how far his value goes down and what the owner will quit and give him up for.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well, after week one I'm glad I passed on him and went with DMC. And actually, a lot influence in the SP helped me make my decision.

I blew this one. I made the same decision as last year and I hated my decision last year. I tried to come back and get McFadden yesterday and that went pretty damned badly. Best hope is Johnson scores a couple TDs in a game soon.ETA: one thing I like out of the stat line from the NE game was Johnson's targets - 7 targets, got 6, no. 4 overall for RBs right between Forte and Sproles and falling in between McFadden, McCoy, K Smith & Reggie Bush.

 

[12punch]

at this point, I have to wonder how many in here are actually defending CJj/k and how many are really just defending their poor decision making.nobody ever wants to admit to getting suckered.

At this point, we have to wonder why you're here. All you've done is troll this thread while admitting you don't own Chris Johnson and patting yourself on the back because of it.

that's your perception.that'd be about like patting myself on the back for not falling down a flight of stairs.

 

[jackdubl]

I'm just curious, as I looked for a thread on this but did not find it exactly, how do people feel about that whole picks (say) 6-12 issue now? I mean Johnson vs McFadden, Charles, Forte, Brees, Brady, etc. - I would still say finding one of the few full time RBs left in the NFL is always worth it.

I took Charles ahead of CJ.004 at 1.06 of a keeper league and not regretting it in the least. There were 30 keepers so adp is a bit skewed, but not as much in top half of Rd 1. All of the reasons listed on this thread were my reasons as well.  

 

[CrazyFox]

At the half...

1 catch for 12 yards

&

5 rushes for 10 yards

 

[Horses Mouth]

At the half...1 catch for 12 yards &5 rushes for 10 yards

14 rushing yards in 90 minutes so far. Ridiculous