fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Head coaches don't care about fantasy football. I'm pretty sure no coach playing the Cowboys is game planning for CM.
Furthermore, I don't think he is discussed anywhere in the world as much as he is in this thread.
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Furthermore, I don't think he is discussed anywhere in the world as much as he is in this thread.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That just may work. Especially if they let him wear this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COBs4ldUAAAug6S.png
Joe Summer
Footballguy
cubbie5150
Footballguy
CMike's family doesn't talk about him as much as this thread does on a daily basis. And LOL at thinking CMike's active status would even be a blip beyond the fantasy football world.
timbrah_ho
Footballguy
One things for certain...almost the entire FBG staff have pretty much staked their analytical reputations to CM this year. Every week it seems like at least 3-5 "he's coming soon!" hints in their blurbs and comments about the Dallas running game. If he never hits the field there will be some crow for dinner
Not expecting a miracle. Just expecting him to get a crack at RB duties. It's gonna happen.It is amazing how crazy folks in here get defending Michael. I own Michael too, and very much hope he gets a real shot in Dallas. But unlike some, I'm not blindly expecting a near-term miracle. If it happens though, awesome.
shadyridr
Footballguy
satch
Footballguy
I understand that you're trying to follow the trend around here by taking a dig at someone. Seems to be an unfortunate knee-jerk reaction for many nowadays. But what I can't understand is where you read anything remotely "crazy" in defense of Michael in the quoted text, or where there are any indications that someone is "expecting a near-term miracle", All I see quoted is people agreeing with your realistic hope that Michael will get a real shot, hopefully in the near future. What am I missing?
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jurb26
Footballguy
The oline hasn't been good thus far IMO. Sure, Murray is being missed... Though I'm sure he misses Dal far more than they do him right now. Still, the oline hasn't been nearly as good as last year. Philly was a team that gave them problems with their front 7 last year and that continued yesterday. With both Dez and Romo sidelined I can't see the run blocking getting easier. Teams will have no respect for the passing game and load the box.
No. 16
Footballguy
So what's his ceiling now for you? With Romo and Dez...he had RB1 potential. Now I don't think he's much more than a flex play.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
why would that be? Dunbar is the 3rd down back no matter what . and randle and McFadden are clearly in front of him. I doubt he is active vs Atlanta
jurb26
Footballguy
People seem unwilling to admit it but it's likely going to take an injury for him to become active or see the field.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I personally think Michael showed more as a blocker this preseason than he has anytime prior. He at least looked effective at the point of blocking now, so at this point it is more about knowing his assignment.
EBF
Footballguy
It's not rocket science. If those guys keep sucking then they'll probably try something else.
EBF
Footballguy
Dez is out. Romo is out. Michael has more practice under his belt. This is a developing situation and if you think things are set in stone then you're very naive. Dallas is pitching spitballs at this point and will probably need to try everything if they continue to struggle on offense, which seems more likely than them simply "continuing to win games" now that Romo and Dez are on the shelf. I don't think they're going to look at what they got from their offensive unit last week and say, "Yea, this is great. More of this." It's a laughable idea. Either Randle/DMC step up or they step aside. It may already be too late. Impossible to say without yet knowing what the coaches are thinking. I personally believe this is the first week where it's more likely than not that Michael will be active, but it remains to be seen.
EBF
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I don't think they're going to make a change because it helps my fantasy teams. I think they might make a change because they are having real-life production problems. As of tonight's game they rank 27 out of 32 NFL teams in yards per carry. Last year they ranked 3rd in the NFL in the same category. I don't think you need an active imagination or an ownership stake in Michael to buy the idea that they probably aren't thrilled with their rushing output so far this season. It's a completely reasonable opinion based on how much they've struggled.
Now to be fair there are a lot of variables at work here. Maybe the coaches are thrilled with Randle and McFadden, and blame most of their struggles on the OL. Maybe they think those guys are crap, but don't rate Michael any higher now that they've gotten a close look at him. Maybe they know Michael is better and are just waiting for him to get acclimated before they make the switch. No one here has insider knowledge and no one is claiming to be a psychic, but what we know is that they felt insecure enough about their RB spot going into the season that they went out and acquired Michael. Even though the price was dirt cheap, that still shows some intent. Since then the guys they already have had struggled by most objective measures. So to recap...
1. They had enough doubts about their RB group to trade for Michael before the season started.
2. Randle/McFadden/Dunbar have been one of the least efficient units in the entire league.
And you have to be a delusional C-Mike owner to think they could make a change here?
Just a person with a functional brain. I think you've claimed not to be biased against Michael in the past, but it seems to me that you're totally unwilling to see anything but the negatives. That doesn't reek of objectivity. I know you were a huge DMC fan back in the day and maybe you're still clinging to that feeble thread, but I have a feeling if this was one of your pet players like Duke Johnson or Cordarrelle Patterson then you'd see the silver lining in the exact same situation.I think anyone who is being realistic here can acknowledge that there are some positives with Michael (new situation, incumbents struggling) and some negatives (dumped by Seattle for an alarmingly low cost). I don't even fault the skeptics (though I'm more of an optimist myself), but what I find comical is the notion that Dallas won't make a change just because they happen to be 2-0 despite running the ball poorly. Anything can happen here IMO. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael leads the team in carries next weekend and I wouldn't be surprised if he's inactive either. We really have no clue what they're thinking inside the building out there in Jerry World.
jurb26
Footballguy
I Agree anything can happen. I just happen to believe CM is likely to need an injury for something of a payoff or real opportunity THIS year.
The Dal run blocking hasn't been nearly as good this year as last. The RBs haven't been great but they've been serviceable. Dal is winning games.
Maybe they feel they need a change with Romo/Dez out. I certainly don't think they give that change to CM blindly w/o first rolling the incumbent group.
CM hasn't exactly proved to be a fast learner. Even if he has enough talent to warrant not being inactive, we've seen his molasses pace of picking things up hinder him prior. It's likely that is still a problem.
The Dal run blocking hasn't been nearly as good this year as last. The RBs haven't been great but they've been serviceable. Dal is winning games.
Maybe they feel they need a change with Romo/Dez out. I certainly don't think they give that change to CM blindly w/o first rolling the incumbent group.
CM hasn't exactly proved to be a fast learner. Even if he has enough talent to warrant not being inactive, we've seen his molasses pace of picking things up hinder him prior. It's likely that is still a problem.
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EBF
Footballguy
Somehow it reminds me of the crab bucket mentality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
I think there are a lot of people walking around this planet who process the slightest opposition as life-or-death threat to their personal safety and tend to react to those occasions in ways that are totally excessive and unjustified. Maybe that instinct paid off in the caveman days, but when you encounter it in most everyday situations it just seems petty and comical. Not unlike total strangers who stalk your posts on FF forums and relish every opportunity to rub your face in the dirt because you had the audacity to unabashedly disagree with them once or twice...
I have been reading Lord of the Flies for the first time since high school and there is more than a little bit of truth in that book. Society is advanced, but most people are basically just animals operating on primitive impulses that were beneficial in ancestral environments before formal laws and governments could rein in their innate savagery.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Actually, we've moved on to great works of literature and the human condition now. Try to keep up.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
This is approaching David Wilson status...
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I think it's rather ridiculous to suggest a coach would completely give up on his running backs and go with a guy they traded for two weeks ago after just two games, and going 2-0.If in 3 weeks they are 2-3 and Randle/DMC look bad, then okay we can have a talk. But I thi it's rather ridiculous that one would think Michael would come in this week and impress so much to warrant starting from here on out. Chances are, if he plays, he gets like 3-4 carries. He'd have to bust them each for 25 yards after breaking 4 tackles to turn some heads and start that conversation.
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NREC34
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Yeah pretty sure. I was looking for it earlier as well. Pretty sure this is heading that route, if it's not too late already
sandlotshrink
Footballguy
I apologize since I'm rather confident this was already discussed in the previous 92 pages, but what is the consensus - why did Dallas trade for Michael? Did they release a statement as to why they brought him on board?
Now that we have a 2 game sample size, what are the stats for Randle, DMC and Dunbar? Do the snaps, carries, and/or targets shed any light on this mess? Big D was supposed to have a top 5 O-line this year, right?
Now that we have a 2 game sample size, what are the stats for Randle, DMC and Dunbar? Do the snaps, carries, and/or targets shed any light on this mess? Big D was supposed to have a top 5 O-line this year, right?
chad in Indy
Footballguy
From watching both games, it took an implosion from the Giants and the Eagles to get the W. I realize a win is a win, but I can't see the coaches or Jerry thinking Dallas won that game due to their team "gutting it out." I agree that Dallas is not going to just throw Michaels in there just because. However, I don't see why they wouldn't start seeing what they have with him. Dunbar is clearly the passing down back, but Randle and McFadden play the same role. Why not activate Michaels over one or the other, give him 10 touches and see what they have?
simey
Footballguy
When did the Eagles implode in their game against Dallas? I thought they were bad the whole game.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Dunbar is the 3rd down guy. Randle and McFadden split the early down work 60/40. Dunbar is the only guy getting it done.
The O-line is still the best in the league. They do lean pass-protection, though. Blocking for Randle/DMC, without Dez to pull extra attention, is a big task. They're still doing enough to dominate TOP and limit negative plays. The Dallas backs simply haven't been able to break the second-level, one-on-one tackle, to this point.
As for why they traded for Michael--DMC is frail, Randle is unproven, and they didn't have a traditional bruiser on the active roster. They gave up a conditional 7th round pick, so the there was no risk.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Pretty sure that the Dallas coaches won't need game reps "to see what they have" in Michael -- they have all week in practice to figure that out. They probably already know what he is and isn't relative to the other dudes on the roster. The question is where the tipping point between his (+) running ability vs any (-)s in terms of the rest of the package that makes up a RB lies, and how quickly he can get there, which is impossible to tell without being at practice.
Either way, they're not going to cost themselves a draft pick so they can further evaluate Michael in live game action.
Either way, they're not going to cost themselves a draft pick so they can further evaluate Michael in live game action.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
They destroyed Philly. They were clearly the better team week 1, too. They handed the Giants 17 of their 26(ish?) points--and still won. Sure, the Cowboys needed some miscues to win. But the Giants needed a lot just to be in the game.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Dunbar is rated seventh overall in receiving by halfbacks by PFF currently.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Randle ranks a very pedestrian 37th in the league among backs with at least 25% of team snaps but has a very positive receiving grade so far.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
McFadden has a negative run grade but has caught the ball pretty well.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Just looking at the stats, there is opportunity for someone to step into the lineup and provide some 2 down run pop. I think the current three active backs all can catch the ball well but with that tenacious OL they ought to be getting more run production. However, there are two weak positions on the line along with three studs.
RBM
Footballguy
Really? There is no reason he can't?
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