Christine Michael (1 Viewer)

[ImTheScientist]

Is he really the third string right now?

Yes, the Seahawks released their depth chart a day ago.

any idea why? just because hes young and unproven?

He makes mistakes. He is kind of like a loose cannon... a very dynamic loose cannon. But the team has to be able to trust him, and right now they are a bit squeamish.

You just made all that up.

Anyways, PinkydaPimp..... Turbin will be the 3rd down back. If Lynch was to miss time though, Michael would get the majority of the carries and is the back to own.

 

[Banger]

Is he really the third string right now?

Yes, the Seahawks released their depth chart a day ago.

any idea why? just because hes young and unproven?

He makes mistakes. He is kind of like a loose cannon... a very dynamic loose cannon. But the team has to be able to trust him, and right now they are a bit squeamish.

Kind of like Wilson last year.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Turbin will be the 3rd down back. If Lynch was to miss time though, Michael would get the majority of the carries and is the back to own.

And you made that up ITS. They wouldnt trust him as the bellcow unless something changes in his grasp of the game.

 

[EBF]

Is he really the third string right now?

I wouldn't read much into it. Turbin is the veteran and the more polished contributor. I think he has some edge in the passing game for now.

He has some edges in the run game as well. A large one is not having the proclivity to lose big yards.

I watched them both pretty closely this preseason. Turbin is not a special talent as a runner. He gets what's blocked and not a whole lot more. He has a good weight/speed combo, but he is not very adept at cutting or creating his own yards. Michael flashed more dynamic talent. Long term, he's the one you want here.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Is he really the third string right now?

I wouldn't read much into it. Turbin is the veteran and the more polished contributor. I think he has some edge in the passing game for now.

He has some edges in the run game as well. A large one is not having the proclivity to lose big yards.

I watched them both pretty closely this preseason. Turbin is not a special talent as a runner. He gets what's blocked and not a whole lot more. He has a good weight/speed combo, but he is not very adept at cutting or creating his own yards. Michael flashed more dynamic talent. Long term, he's the one you want here.

Not arguing long term one iota. More specifically 2013. And having Michael eat a roster spot this year... something needs to change for him.

In Dynasty/keeper Im very bullish on Michael.

 

[biju]

Is he really the third string right now?

I wouldn't read much into it. Turbin is the veteran and the more polished contributor. I think he has some edge in the passing game for now.

He has some edges in the run game as well. A large one is not having the proclivity to lose big yards.

I watched them both pretty closely this preseason. Turbin is not a special talent as a runner. He gets what's blocked and not a whole lot more. He has a good weight/speed combo, but he is not very adept at cutting or creating his own yards. Michael flashed more dynamic talent. Long term, he's the one you want here.

Not arguing long term one iota. More specifically 2013. And having Michael eat a roster spot this year... something needs to change for him.

In Dynasty/keeper Im very bullish on Michael.

I think I got something very different from Michael and Turbin in the preseason. I don't think Turbin is going to hold him off the entire year and my opinion actually is similar to ITS--Michael is better suited for early downs right now. Once he understands blocking schemes I don't think Turbin will see the field much at all.

But you're talking as if Michael is extremely raw and I don't think it's the case.

 

[Buffaloes]

Turbin will be the 3rd down back. If Lynch was to miss time though, Michael would get the majority of the carries and is the back to own.

And you made that up ITS

I don't think he did, though.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Turbin will be the 3rd down back. If Lynch was to miss time though, Michael would get the majority of the carries and is the back to own.

And you made that up ITS

I don't think he did, though.

Link?

If the coaches has stated that Im more then willing to adjust to the information coming from the Seahawks team.

 

[Hooper31]

Turbin will be the 3rd down back. If Lynch was to miss time though, Michael would get the majority of the carries and is the back to own.

And you made that up ITS

I don't think he did, though.

Yes, he did. ITS stated his opinion. No coach has said anything even hinting that Michael would take over on early downs if Lynch got hurt.

That said, I won't deny that I share that same "hope". I believe that Michael has shown us something potentially special. IMO this is nearly pointless. Lynch hasn't given us any hint to slowing down yet. He produced a career season after getting paid by the Seahawks. How often have we seen that? Seriously. They paid him, and then he produced at top-notch form. That's a rarity. Sure, Lynch is an injury risk just like every other player in the NFL, but I think Lynch is primed for another great season and we're more likely to see Michael ride the bench for the vast majority of the season.

 

[habsfan]

As a Hawks fan, I'm really excited about Michael... and staying far away in redraft this year.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Im in the camp that if Lynch goes down, Michael is the guy to have, not Turbin.

 

[Ray_T]

Is he really the third string right now?

I wouldn't read much into it. Turbin is the veteran and the more polished contributor. I think he has some edge in the passing game for now.

He has some edges in the run game as well. A large one is not having the proclivity to lose big yards.

I watched them both pretty closely this preseason. Turbin is not a special talent as a runner. He gets what's blocked and not a whole lot more. He has a good weight/speed combo, but he is not very adept at cutting or creating his own yards. Michael flashed more dynamic talent. Long term, he's the one you want here.

Not arguing long term one iota. More specifically 2013. And having Michael eat a roster spot this year... something needs to change for him.

In Dynasty/keeper Im very bullish on Michael.

I think I got something very different from Michael and Turbin in the preseason. I don't think Turbin is going to hold him off the entire year and my opinion actually is similar to ITS--Michael is better suited for early downs right now. Once he understands blocking schemes I don't think Turbin will see the field much at all.

But you're talking as if Michael is extremely raw and I don't think it's the case.

I agree. Michael probably would have been the first RB selected if he didnt have other issues.

if he has resolved these other issues, he will challenge for the starting job as early as next year.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Turbin saw the field plenty today.

Christine Michael got saddled with the Did Not Play from the coaches.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Turbin saw the field plenty today.

Christine Michael got saddled with the Did Not Play from the coaches.

Turbin was in on 28% of the offensive snaps.

Michael DNP.

 

[EBF]

I hope it continues. Could create another buy low window for Michael.

Michael is still >> Turbin long term.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I hope it continues. Could create another buy low window for Michael.

Michael is still >> Turbin long term.

 

[Apple Juice]

I hope it continues. Could create another buy low window for Michael.

Michael is still >> Turbin long term.

Were you expecting him to play on Sunday? Turbin is clearly the backup to Lynch, and whenever Lynch is gone, he'll be the backup to Michael.

Michael has no value until Lynch is hurt or moves on. I don't think anyone disputes that.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I hope it continues. Could create another buy low window for Michael.

Michael is still >> Turbin long term.

Were you expecting him to play on Sunday? Turbin is clearly the backup to Lynch, and whenever Lynch is gone, he'll be the backup to Michael.

Michael has no value until Lynch is hurt or moves on. I don't think anyone disputes that.

It was EBF who said that the people shouldnt read much into the depth chart and that CM would get 4-8 carries per game.

I was laughing at him then spinning this DNP into a good result. He sounds like a politician.

And people like EBF/ITS certainly were arguing to the contrary of his immediate usage and value.

 

[EBF]

It's immaterial. Turbin and Michael are both useless in redraft either way without a Lynch injury.

From a dynasty standpoint, Michael >> Turbin.

Laugh if you want, but most Seahawks fans will agree with that assessment.

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

I thought that Michael was being over-drafted at FFPC drafts during the weekend. Granted, he wasn't going to round 11ish or 12ish, but that was over Turbin and amongst some RBs that had a clearer path to relevance due to injury of a primary RB. Turbin appears to be pretty talented and versatile RB; not sure where all this talk about Michael becoming a workhorse if Lynch gets injured is coming from. My guess is Turbin would get more carries and Michael owners could optimistically and initially hope for a 50/50 time share.

 

[mbuehner]

Michael isnt playing because hes learning to block in the passing game... and Turbin is in on passing downs.

If lynch gets hurts Michael will win some leagues for some people I think. Turbin certainly isnt going to be a 3 down back so the logic is pretty obvious that michael replaces lynch and turbin remains the 3rd down back.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Is Michael still a hold in redraft, or are you guys dropping him?

 

[Kuz]

Is Michael still a hold in redraft, or are you guys dropping him?

I'm holding for now but not sure how much longer... Really not going to be worth much unless Lynch gets hurt IMO

 

[Hooper31]

Is Michael still a hold in redraft, or are you guys dropping him?

I don't think Michael was ever a hold in a redraft. Even if Lynch goes down there's no guarantee that Michael ever sees the ball enough to make him worth a roster spot. That said, I believe in his talent.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I really like him in dynasty, but since he didn't even suit up last week I wonder about him in redraft. I've been holding in one redraft, but in my others I see him falling to a lot of waivers. In leagues with shorter rosters I'm just wondering what the consensus is for him.

 

[tsarc888]

Personally cut him for Lance Dunbar this week in a PPR redraft.

 

[RushHour]

I've been holding him in a larger bench 16 team league (redraft), but i'm not sure how much longer I can do that for. As soon as I drop him, Lynch will probably get hurt though.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

But the team has to be able to trust him, and right now they are a bit squeamish.

Did Not Play once again for Christine Michael.

Christine Michael a healthy scratch for Seattle.

Turbin was in on 28% of the offensive snaps.

Turbin gets 25% week 2.

*But the reality is that Michael has a real shot of improving his chances each and every week that goes by. But how the team saw him and ended up using as recently as 2 weeks ago is pretty obvious.

 

[TheFanatic]

I never thought this guy was a hold in redraft. Only in deep dynasty would I hold on to this guy...

 

[Eminence]

Dude, those holes ARE MASSIVE. Lynch looks great but Michael could do some real damage in this Offense.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I dunno. Im still holding Michael in redraft. Rice and Lacy being dinged on the roster I have Michael only makes me want to hold on for a bit longer as well. If Lynch gets hurt, Michael will be huge. I realize you cant predict injuries, but at this point Im sticking with him. Not much else on waivers either in this deep league. I dont see the point in dropping him for Da'rel Scott, Snelling, Ellington, etc.

 

[Lordcoca]

Anyone think he may see a few carries against the Jags? Game looks to be a blowout.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

spencer ware got carries vs SF. CM did not.

Kool aid is strong

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I dunno. Im still holding Michael in redraft. Rice and Lacy being dinged on the roster I have Michael only makes me want to hold on for a bit longer as well. If Lynch gets hurt, Michael will be huge. I realize you cant predict injuries, but at this point Im sticking with him. Not much else on waivers either in this deep league. I dont see the point in dropping him for Da'rel Scott, Snelling, Ellington, etc.

why would you hold in re-draft? dyno is a different story.

Near worthless in re-draft right now. Roster spots are valuable

 

[Banger]

I dunno. Im still holding Michael in redraft. Rice and Lacy being dinged on the roster I have Michael only makes me want to hold on for a bit longer as well. If Lynch gets hurt, Michael will be huge. I realize you cant predict injuries, but at this point Im sticking with him. Not much else on waivers either in this deep league. I dont see the point in dropping him for Da'rel Scott, Snelling, Ellington, etc.

why would you hold in re-draft? dyno is a different story.

Near worthless in re-draft right now. Roster spots are valuable

ya..held a couple weeks and dumped him this week for Ellington. He's a lottery ticket but only has value if Lynch is out and even then it's not a guarantee.

 

[EBF]

I wouldn't bother in redraft. However, I wouldn't be worried about Ware or Turbin long term.

Michael doesn't offer much versatility and isn't a big special teams contributor. With Lynch healthy, there isn't much incentive to make him active on gameday.

At some point in the future, Lynch will move on and Michael will take over as the preferred ball carrier.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I wouldn't bother in redraft. However, I wouldn't be worried about Ware or Turbin long term.

Michael doesn't offer much versatility and isn't a big special teams contributor. With Lynch healthy, there isn't much incentive to make him active on gameday.

At some point in the future, Lynch will move on and Michael will take over as the preferred ball carrier.

question for you if CM is so good why hasnt he leap frogged Turbin for the COP/end of game occasional carry yet?

I dont think its a forgone conclusion that if Lynch got hurt that CM would be the back to own this season.

 

[ThePittbully]

spencer ware got carries vs SF. CM did not.

Kool aid is strong

Usually they don't give carries to guys who are inactive for the game. That's been my experience

 

[FF Ninja]

Michael isnt playing because hes learning to block in the passing game... and Turbin is in on passing downs.

If lynch gets hurts Michael will win some leagues for some people I think. Turbin certainly isnt going to be a 3 down back so the logic is pretty obvious that michael replaces lynch and turbin remains the 3rd down back.

I'm a Michael fan, but I don't agree with this at all. Turbin appears to be a pretty talented runner. He's not like a Quizz Rodgers type of player who only has NFL value on third downs. I'm sure Michael would get some work if Lynch missed time, but I'd be shocked if it was a 50/50 split in carries. The carries might be 60/40 but I'd bet the snap count would be 80/20.

I don't always handcuff, but when I do, it's Turbin.

 

[ThePittbully]

I wouldn't bother in redraft. However, I wouldn't be worried about Ware or Turbin long term.

Michael doesn't offer much versatility and isn't a big special teams contributor. With Lynch healthy, there isn't much incentive to make him active on gameday.

At some point in the future, Lynch will move on and Michael will take over as the preferred ball carrier.

question for you if CM is so good why hasnt he leap frogged Turbin for the COP/end of game occasional carry yet?

I dont think its a forgone conclusion that if Lynch got hurt that CM would be the back to own this season.

I'd say it's because Turbin is a 2nd year player who's proven himself in pass protection and has also proven to be pretty good at his role. I don't see any reason they would need to rush Michael onto the field unless Lynch or Turbin go down. But if you don't think an injury would give Michael a relevant role in this offense you're kidding yourself, it's tailor made for his style

 

[EBF]

I wouldn't bother in redraft. However, I wouldn't be worried about Ware or Turbin long term.

Michael doesn't offer much versatility and isn't a big special teams contributor. With Lynch healthy, there isn't much incentive to make him active on gameday.

At some point in the future, Lynch will move on and Michael will take over as the preferred ball carrier.

question for you if CM is so good why hasnt he leap frogged Turbin for the COP/end of game occasional carry yet?

I dont think its a forgone conclusion that if Lynch got hurt that CM would be the back to own this season.

The backup in Seattle rarely carries the ball. Turbin is on pace for 72 carries. Almost inconsequential. What they seem to want out of their #2 is someone who can protect the QB and catch the occasional pass. Michael is not a great receiver. Turbin knows the offense and is a decent third down specialist for a bigger back.

Make no mistake, Michael is the future there. I liked Turbin okay in last year's draft, but he's simply not a very dynamic or creative runner. Michael can do a lot more with the same blocking and is far more of a big play threat. The reason you don't see him right now is because Lynch is occupying his future role.

2-3 years from now, it will be the Michael show. I think most Seahawks fans and homers will support me on that. He's just a lot more talented.

You can see all the preseason carries for all three of Seattle's backup RBs here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsTm2JRooyY

 

[domvin]

Until the bye weeks hit, and I am forced to make a move(due to some injuries) he is planted firmly on my roster.

Even if it's the back end of my roster, I will hold in the chance he somehow gets an opportunity, due to injury to Turbin or Michael. His risk/reward is better than anything else on the WW and I am viewing it as a lottery ticket. Hitting the lottery is tough, but if it happens it will be worth it....

 

[EBF]

PS.

Michael had a couple nifty catches in that video. Maybe he's a better receiver than I thought.

Would not be surprised to see him push out Turbin at some point.

I still think Turbin is in there mainly because he's reliable and experienced. I don't think he represents any long term threat to Michael though.

If anything, I'd be looking to buy Michael in dynasty while his market price is still below the RB10-RB15 range (which is where it belongs, IMO).

 

[buck naked]

Take this for what it is worth - rumor, no link.

Someone in Vegas over opening weekend told me Michael is dumb as a post and had real difficulty with the playbook. If true, that would explain why he is a healthy inactive for now.

 

[ThePittbully]

Take this for what it is worth - rumor, no link.

Someone in Vegas over opening weekend told me Michael is dumb as a post and had real difficulty with the playbook. If true, that would explain why he is a healthy inactive for now.

Whatever his mental strength is, any rookie is going to have to learn and be trusted in pass protection before he gets in over guys who have already proven they can be trusted. Especially if those guys who can be trusted are already performing adequately

 

[TheFanatic]

I wouldn't bother in redraft. However, I wouldn't be worried about Ware or Turbin long term.

Michael doesn't offer much versatility and isn't a big special teams contributor. With Lynch healthy, there isn't much incentive to make him active on gameday.

At some point in the future, Lynch will move on and Michael will take over as the preferred ball carrier.

question for you if CM is so good why hasnt he leap frogged Turbin for the COP/end of game occasional carry yet?

I dont think its a forgone conclusion that if Lynch got hurt that CM would be the back to own this season.

The backup in Seattle rarely carries the ball. Turbin is on pace for 72 carries. Almost inconsequential. What they seem to want out of their #2 is someone who can protect the QB and catch the occasional pass. Michael is not a great receiver. Turbin knows the offense and is a decent third down specialist for a bigger back.

Make no mistake, Michael is the future there. I liked Turbin okay in last year's draft, but he's simply not a very dynamic or creative runner. Michael can do a lot more with the same blocking and is far more of a big play threat. The reason you don't see him right now is because Lynch is occupying his future role.

2-3 years from now, it will be the Michael show. I think most Seahawks fans and homers will support me on that. He's just a lot more talented.

You can see all the preseason carries for all three of Seattle's backup RBs here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsTm2JRooyY

The same thing was said about Daryl Richardson spelling SJax. Many, myself included, thought he was going to be strictly a scat back. Now he's starting. I feel he doesn't have the frame to stay the starter, but that's just me. I was wrong about him becoming the starter. Maybe we're assuming too much about CM here too and not enough for Turbin...

 

[EBF]

The same thing was said about Daryl Richardson spelling SJax. Many, myself included, thought he was going to be strictly a scat back. Now he's starting. I feel he doesn't have the frame to stay the starter, but that's just me. I was wrong about him becoming the starter. Maybe we're assuming too much about CM here too and not enough for Turbin...

Not a parallel situation to Pead/Richardson. Turbin is a second year player. Michael is a rookie. In general, veterans have a leg up on rookies.

Michael is a much better runner than Turbin. Don't overthink this. Michael was the freakiest athlete at the RB position in the draft by a pretty wide margin. He was a 2nd round draft pick. He generated a big buzz in practices almost immediately. He carried that over to the games, leading the NFL in preseason rushing yardage and averaging 5.0 YPC. Turbin is an okay player, but nothing exceptional. Michael has a chance to be one of the top runners in the league.

The dynasty play is to sell Turbin for anything approaching reasonable value and to buy Michael in the off chance that you can find an owner willing to sell.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The same thing was said about Daryl Richardson spelling SJax. Many, myself included, thought he was going to be strictly a scat back. Now he's starting. I feel he doesn't have the frame to stay the starter, but that's just me. I was wrong about him becoming the starter. Maybe we're assuming too much about CM here too and not enough for Turbin...

Not a parallel situation to Pead/Richardson. Turbin is a second year player. Michael is a rookie. In general, veterans have a leg up on rookies.

Michael is a much better runner than Turbin. Don't overthink this. Michael was the freakiest athlete at the RB position in the draft by a pretty wide margin. He was a 2nd round draft pick. He generated a big buzz in practices almost immediately. He carried that over to the games, leading the NFL in preseason rushing yardage and averaging 5.0 YPC. Turbin is an okay player, but nothing exceptional. Michael has a chance to be one of the top runners in the league.

The dynasty play is to sell Turbin for anything approaching reasonable value and to buy Michael in the off chance that you can find an owner willing to sell.

Turbin is the better football player.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

The same thing was said about Daryl Richardson spelling SJax. Many, myself included, thought he was going to be strictly a scat back. Now he's starting. I feel he doesn't have the frame to stay the starter, but that's just me. I was wrong about him becoming the starter. Maybe we're assuming too much about CM here too and not enough for Turbin...

Not a parallel situation to Pead/Richardson. Turbin is a second year player. Michael is a rookie. In general, veterans have a leg up on rookies.

Michael is a much better runner than Turbin. Don't overthink this. Michael was the freakiest athlete at the RB position in the draft by a pretty wide margin. He was a 2nd round draft pick. He generated a big buzz in practices almost immediately. He carried that over to the games, leading the NFL in preseason rushing yardage and averaging 5.0 YPC. Turbin is an okay player, but nothing exceptional. Michael has a chance to be one of the top runners in the league.

The dynasty play is to sell Turbin for anything approaching reasonable value and to buy Michael in the off chance that you can find an owner willing to sell.

Turbin is the better football player.

If, by that, you mean only getting what's blocked and going down on first contact, you'd be correct.

 

[EBF]

The same thing was said about Daryl Richardson spelling SJax. Many, myself included, thought he was going to be strictly a scat back. Now he's starting. I feel he doesn't have the frame to stay the starter, but that's just me. I was wrong about him becoming the starter. Maybe we're assuming too much about CM here too and not enough for Turbin...

Not a parallel situation to Pead/Richardson. Turbin is a second year player. Michael is a rookie. In general, veterans have a leg up on rookies.

Michael is a much better runner than Turbin. Don't overthink this. Michael was the freakiest athlete at the RB position in the draft by a pretty wide margin. He was a 2nd round draft pick. He generated a big buzz in practices almost immediately. He carried that over to the games, leading the NFL in preseason rushing yardage and averaging 5.0 YPC. Turbin is an okay player, but nothing exceptional. Michael has a chance to be one of the top runners in the league.

The dynasty play is to sell Turbin for anything approaching reasonable value and to buy Michael in the off chance that you can find an owner willing to sell.

Turbin is the better football player.