Uruk-Hai
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Since tim is probably in Compton playing chess with all of his black friends, I'll throw a classic rock trash-classic out for Saturday night: Out on the road for 40 days
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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (2 Viewers)
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timschochet
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Bob Dylan- Blonde on Blonde (1966)
Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Pledging My Time
Visions Of Johanna
One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
I Want You
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Just Like A Woman
Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine)
Temporary Like Achilles
Absolutely Sweet Marie
Fourth Time Around
Obviously Five Believers
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
I fully expect we will get the usual “never listened; can’t stand the guys voice.” Ignore the philistines out there; this is one of the finest albums ever produced, Bob down in Nashville with the future Band by his side, making gem after gem of legendary songs. Personal favorites are “Visions Of Johanna”, “Mobile”, the side long “Sad Eyed Lady” and “Just Like a Woman” with some of the best lyrics ever written:
Everybody’s guessed that baby can’t be blessed
till she finally sees that she’s like all the rest
Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Pledging My Time
Visions Of Johanna
One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
I Want You
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
Just Like A Woman
Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I’ll Go Mine)
Temporary Like Achilles
Absolutely Sweet Marie
Fourth Time Around
Obviously Five Believers
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands
I fully expect we will get the usual “never listened; can’t stand the guys voice.” Ignore the philistines out there; this is one of the finest albums ever produced, Bob down in Nashville with the future Band by his side, making gem after gem of legendary songs. Personal favorites are “Visions Of Johanna”, “Mobile”, the side long “Sad Eyed Lady” and “Just Like a Woman” with some of the best lyrics ever written:
Everybody’s guessed that baby can’t be blessed
till she finally sees that she’s like all the rest
rockaction
Footballguy
Never listened to this front to back but every song that I recognize, I like.
Anyway, I also love this song about the album.
Nada Surf - Blonde on Blonde
Anyway, I also love this song about the album.
Nada Surf - Blonde on Blonde
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Bob Dylan is a highly influential artist.
That is all I will say about that.
That is all I will say about that.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It's not his voice that turns me off. This is just too much of one thing to me, like Exile On Main Street.
But even Exile didn't have crap like "Rainy Day Women" on it. That's just an awful, awful song - up there with "Shiny Happy People" or anything else REM did.
"Stuck Inside Of Mobile" is a good song, though.
Galileo
Footballguy
Couldn't disagree more. It's fun. It's chaotic. It's unique. I find the sound to be an interesting musical statement reflective of a transitional time in Dylan's art.
It's not his voice that turns me off. This is just too much of one thing to me, like Exile On Main Street.
But even Exile didn't have crap like "Rainy Day Women" on it. That's just an awful, awful song - up there with "Shiny Happy People" or anything else REM did.
"Stuck Inside Of Mobile" is a good song, though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree but it’s a big dose of a very particular sound. I love it, it’s unique and full of great songs. However, I can imagine BoB would wear on some people pretty quickly.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I get that people don’t like Dylan’s voice but I find it unique (obviously) and unless you’re an opera singer or broadway star you don’t need a perfect voice to sing. If you’re singing rock or folk, even less of a requirement.
Heck I even bought a record where he sings other people’s songs/standards.
Heck I even bought a record where he sings other people’s songs/standards.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Agreed and Highway 61 is right up in the running.
He is technically weak, but that has never been what rock or any modern music has been about. It has been about soul- about feeling a piece of the person. Bing Crosby, benefitting from advances in technology, dug out a new path of intimacy over technical prowess.
Dylan is a poet. Visions of Johana is his masterpiece.
Ain't it just like the night to play tricks when you're tryin' to be so quiet?
We sit here stranded, though we're all doin' our best to deny it
And Louise holds a handful of rain, temptin' you to defy it
Lights flicker from the opposite loft
In this room the heat pipes just cough
The country music station plays soft
But there's nothing, really nothing to turn off
Just Louise and her lover so entwined
And these visions of Johanna that conquer my mind
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I probably wouldn't mind his voice if I liked the music, as I like plenty of unconventional rock and pop singers, but his style has never been my thing. I would never not give him props for his impact and influence; I am just not a fan.
timschochet
Footballguy
Metallica- Master of Puppets (1986)
Battery
Master of Puppets
The Thing That Should Not Be
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Disposable Heroes
Leper Messiah
Orion
Damage, Inc.
Metallica’s 3rd album is widely considered to be one of the best heavy Metal albums ever (many people regard it as #1). The bass player died right after this album was made (we keep running into something similar.)
I admit that this is not my kind of music and I don’t really listen to it. But I will say that whenever I have seen this band live (various televised appearances) I have been impressed by their musicianship. Clearly these guys are very talented players, so much respect to them and their fans. I selected this album because it is so highly regarded in the genre.
Battery
Master of Puppets
The Thing That Should Not Be
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Disposable Heroes
Leper Messiah
Orion
Damage, Inc.
Metallica’s 3rd album is widely considered to be one of the best heavy Metal albums ever (many people regard it as #1). The bass player died right after this album was made (we keep running into something similar.)
I admit that this is not my kind of music and I don’t really listen to it. But I will say that whenever I have seen this band live (various televised appearances) I have been impressed by their musicianship. Clearly these guys are very talented players, so much respect to them and their fans. I selected this album because it is so highly regarded in the genre.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Arguably their last great album although a case can be made for And Justice For All. Solid album start to finish, no throw away tracks. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) is a verifiable anthem. Disposable Heroes, Leper Messiah and Damage, Inc are a barrage of force. Battery, Orion and Master of Puppets are great songs. The Thing That Should Not Be is the one that doesn't fit the most out of all them but I love it.
Still like Ride the Lighning better though..
Still like Ride the Lighning better though..
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Metallica does still bring it live, they are a very professional band. I've never seen a bad Metallica show, they will leave it all out there. Saw them last year at Outside Lands and was really impressed that they still have it. Unfortunately their songwriting has taken a turn downward and they are never going to top those first 3 albums.
skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
Ah, memories. I ate, breathed, and #### Metallica in high school. I was a classic metal nerd, and can't count how many times I've listened to that album. Definitely their best album, although Ride the Lighting and Kill 'em All were classic in their own rite. It's amazing how much they jumped the shark after Justice. Now? They're just caricatures of themselves. I still have a huge amount of respect for what they did in their first few albums, but they should have hung it up a long time ago.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Prefer Ajfa, but this would be #2.
Insein
Footballguy
Master is a fantastic album. Most fans consider it their best. I prefer ...And Justice for all despite the lack of Bass. Just more raw emotional songs.
Battery and Orion are two of the best Metallica songs, period. The title track holds up well too despite it being the one to receive air play still to this day. Just a really great album all around.
Battery and Orion are two of the best Metallica songs, period. The title track holds up well too despite it being the one to receive air play still to this day. Just a really great album all around.
rockaction
Footballguy
I remember having our high school hockey team skate out to Damage, Inc. The guys loved it, too.
In my high school world, that was the ultimate compliment and testament to a band.
What an album. Orion is a great instrumental, Damage, Inc., Battery, Disposable Heroes, the title track...all of these songs are just back to front killer.
At least, back then they were.
Now? Eesh. This is why you don't get married in high school.
In my high school world, that was the ultimate compliment and testament to a band.
What an album. Orion is a great instrumental, Damage, Inc., Battery, Disposable Heroes, the title track...all of these songs are just back to front killer.
At least, back then they were.
Now? Eesh. This is why you don't get married in high school.
bigbottom
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Metallica. Now we are in my wheelhouse. My favorite album by my favorite band.
I have outgrown Metallica some. I am not the angry young man that wanted to break things and people like I was back in the 80s. But, I still love small doses of that type of music especially when I am working out. (Nothing gets me juiced like Metallica, Pantera, or Slayer.)
While the title track is just a phenomenal song, my favorite part of the album is in the middle: Welcome Home, Disposable Heroes, and Leper Messiah. I love how the guitar sound sounds like it is sucking the life out of you. Ride the Lightning and Justice are great albums but Master has the songs and sound that hits the nail on the head for me.
Metallica died to me after the black album. Hell, it took me a little while to grasp the black album. It is a great album but it was a departure from what Metallica had done so much and so well before that point. It was more straight-forward. There are some decent songs after the black album but none of those albums are Metallica.
I have outgrown Metallica some. I am not the angry young man that wanted to break things and people like I was back in the 80s. But, I still love small doses of that type of music especially when I am working out. (Nothing gets me juiced like Metallica, Pantera, or Slayer.)
While the title track is just a phenomenal song, my favorite part of the album is in the middle: Welcome Home, Disposable Heroes, and Leper Messiah. I love how the guitar sound sounds like it is sucking the life out of you. Ride the Lightning and Justice are great albums but Master has the songs and sound that hits the nail on the head for me.
Metallica died to me after the black album. Hell, it took me a little while to grasp the black album. It is a great album but it was a departure from what Metallica had done so much and so well before that point. It was more straight-forward. There are some decent songs after the black album but none of those albums are Metallica.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Metallica is one of my fav bands especially live. I've seen them 16 times and they always put on a great show especially back in the day when they were playing 3 1/2 hour sets.
I prefer Kill 'em All and Justice for All but this is a solid album and Welcome Home is one of my favs by them.
I prefer Kill 'em All and Justice for All but this is a solid album and Welcome Home is one of my favs by them.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm not a huge metal guy but owned this album and spun it often. The musicianship is so complex here, and while I don't really like Hetfield's voice, there's really no other way these songs could be sung.
Insein
Footballguy
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Great album
zamboni
Footballguy
Metallica’s first four albums are about as good as it gets in the heavy metal genre.
MoP is probably my favorite among these four. Welcome Home is a bona fide epic, but “The Thing That Should Not Be” is a somewhat overlooked gem and my favorite tune on the album.
MoP is probably my favorite among these four. Welcome Home is a bona fide epic, but “The Thing That Should Not Be” is a somewhat overlooked gem and my favorite tune on the album.
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Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Another one of those gems I accidentally fell into when I ordered a bunch of albums from Columbia House based on the album cover. I listened to this as much as anything in high school.
I never really get the itch to listen to metal anymore, but if one of these songs come on a Spotify playlist, I will dig it.
I never really get the itch to listen to metal anymore, but if one of these songs come on a Spotify playlist, I will dig it.
zamboni
Footballguy
jwb
Footballguy
Fantastic album, and along with Maiden's Powerslave, are my go-to albums whenever someone says metal isn't "music" (I have some classic / prog rock buddies that think anything beyond AC/DC is just noise). Great aggressive music for certain moods (prettymuch the polar opposite of relaxing with a scotch and listening to Aja.)
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Best band i was ever adult-irritated by. I moved to Reno '83-4 to attempt gambling professionally. Wanted to do it right so the first thing i did was use the experience i'd had as a psych tech to find as many on-call gigs as i could. Developed a pro relationship with Truckee Meadows Hospital - notorious as home of the surviving member of the Judas-Priest-suicide-pact and a 60 Minutes-type expose on the admitting practices (making diagnoses of teenagers based more on their parents' insurance profile than behavioral problems) of its rainmaker - and worked (and met my Mary) there off & on for a coupla yrs.
Even before we got Judas Arseface, there was a heavy current of headbanging on the adolescent unit and it seemed every damned one of em had a copy of Kill Em All. Patients weren't allowed to have personal music so there i was, barely 30 myself, confiscating Walkmans & contraband Metallica. So, even if i was thrash-inclined, these guys always made me feel like a creepy ol' man, even when i was only a few yrs removed from my own mudshark days....
Even before we got Judas Arseface, there was a heavy current of headbanging on the adolescent unit and it seemed every damned one of em had a copy of Kill Em All. Patients weren't allowed to have personal music so there i was, barely 30 myself, confiscating Walkmans & contraband Metallica. So, even if i was thrash-inclined, these guys always made me feel like a creepy ol' man, even when i was only a few yrs removed from my own mudshark days....
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
LOL great point, I loved this album in middle school/high school but I don't think I could listen to it now unless I am working out and even then it might be a stretch. Fantastic album for what it is though.
zamboni
Footballguy
That’s where I find this album, and most of early Metallica, of greatest use - at the gym. I don’t think I want to listen to the whole album anymore all the way through otherwise.
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Quint
Footballguy
similar experience.rockaction said:
our 4x100 Freestyle relay team used to crank "Damage Inc." before every race from that uber-cool yellow Sony boombox (allegedly "water resistant") and we got some sideways looks from nearly everyone. there were zero "Fs" given.
top to bottom a great album, with the exception of "The Thing That Should Not Be". i'm a big Lovecraft fan, but this track always hit me the wrong way. didn't get to see them on the MoP tour, and still regret that today.
not sure if i'd just sit down and listen to MoP from start to finish right now, but do have "Welcome Home", "Master of Puppets", "Battery", "Damage Inc." and "Orion" interspersed on various playlists. great for yard work or the golf course.
psychobillies
Footballguy
skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
I saw them to a quasi acoustic set at Neil Young's Bridge Benefit a couple of years ago They broke out a few of those new tracks, and man, did they not translate. I don't know if it's because they hadn't played them live yet, or the setup, but man, they were comically bad. As was a good portion of their set that was post Justice. I'll have to give Hardwired a listen though, see if the finished product was decent. Death Magnetic was the first ok album I'd heard them play in the last 20 years.bigbottom said:
That being said, it was interesting seeing them play Mr Soul with Neil.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Death Magnetic was definitely a return to their thrash roots, but the songwriting was sub-par in that the songs had zero hooks. I know it seems counterintuitive, but what made the early stuff good was not how hard it rocked, but that it rocked hard and had hooks - both guitar riffs and vocal hooks. When I listened to Death Magnetic, my initial impression was "Yes, they're going back to their early sound!" But ultimately the songs were all forgettable (to me). Nothing stuck in my head. There was nothing to sing along to.
I think Hardwired is much better on that front. Does it have hooks like "Searchin . . . Seek and Destroy!" or "Master! . . . Master!"? No. But there are definitely some tunes that stick with you, in my opinion, and some of the best riffs that they've had in a long time.
Redwes25
Footballguy
Those first three albums by them are just amazing. I go back and forth on what I prefer between Master of Puppet and Ride the Lightning. Justice for all just step below those first three but they went downhill fast after that. I am I don't think they ever recovered from the lose of Burton on musical level.
I am still disappointed that the Black album is the one with the best sales as it is just not as good as the earlier albums. I remember when it came out and everyone loved it and while I liked it at the time it just wasn't the same as their earlier stuff.
I am still disappointed that the Black album is the one with the best sales as it is just not as good as the earlier albums. I remember when it came out and everyone loved it and while I liked it at the time it just wasn't the same as their earlier stuff.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
This system works across a lot of types of music. The highest selling album by an artist is usually one or two after their best album.
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Redwes25
Footballguy
Insein
Footballguy
Cliff was amazing but people really short change Jason. Some people have put out a "remastered" AJFA on youtube where there is actual bass and it makes it even better.
...And Justice for Jason
Insein
Footballguy
You also have to factor in that the Black Album was most liked by mainstream people which also turned off the hardcore fans. It also still gets a ton of airplay making it just a little less special. There's definitely psychological factors that cause old head fans to not be able to appreciate the newer stuff.
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