Coach Kubiak "Surprised" By RB Depth (1 Viewer)

[Punchie]

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Coach Kubiak "Surprised" By RB Depth

Source: Nick Schenck, HoustonTexans.com

Original Article: http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2642

Summary: Maybe the Texans aren't in as dire straits as assumed regarding the depth of their running back corps. "I’m surprised (at our depth)," Kubiak said. "I guess that would be a good way to put it…Antowain is a veteran guy that we’re very excited to get. We think he fits what we do. Then the surprise comes from these young kids. Morency has missed some time, but you look at Wali Lundy, Taylor and Rhodes. We’re very, very fortunate to pick these young men up, and they have been a big surprise throughout this summer. They’re doing a good job."

Personal view: I don't see how he can be so optimistic with that crew, but he knows a thing or two more than me about running backs.

 

[srnohav]

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Coach Kubiak "Surprised" By RB Depth

Source: Nick Schenck, HoustonTexans.com

Original Article: http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2642

Summary: Maybe the Texans aren't in as dire straits as assumed regarding the depth of their running back corps. "I’m surprised (at our depth)," Kubiak said. "I guess that would be a good way to put it…Antowain is a veteran guy that we’re very excited to get. We think he fits what we do. Then the surprise comes from these young kids. Morency has missed some time, but you look at Wali Lundy, Taylor and Rhodes. We’re very, very fortunate to pick these young men up, and they have been a big surprise throughout this summer. They’re doing a good job."

Personal view: I don't see how he can be so optimistic with that crew, but he knows a thing or two more than me about running backs.

 

[srnohav]

you are reading too much into his comments, I live in Denver and Kubiak says the same stuff every year

 

[Punchie]

you are reading too much into his comments, I live in Denver and Kubiak says the same stuff every year

I'm 100% sure that this is coachspeak, but it's nice to see that Antowain Smith seems to have picked up the offense nicely, if I were to guess, he'd be the handcuff to Dom Davis (kinda reminds me of Mike Anderson really.)

 

[imeimex]

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and they decided to pass on Bush.

 

[Punchie]

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and they decided to pass on Bush.

That all depends on how Mario does. I'm confident Kubiak can get good production from any RB, if the defense improves dramatically and the Texans win a few more games because of it, then I don't think Texans fans will be pissed at all.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and they decided to pass on Bush.

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and Reggie Bush just blows it up in N.O. That will impact fan anger more then if Williams gets 8 sacks or whatever.

 

[srnohav]

I think the Reggie Bush thing is overblown for Kubiak, for the last ten years in Denver, they have put RB and RB in their system and it worked great. Dom Davis is solid enough to put up the same numbers as most of the RB's in Denver. a running back does not win a championship.

 

[TheFanatic]

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and they decided to pass on Bush.

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and Reggie Bush just blows it up in N.O. That will impact fan anger more then if Williams gets 8 sacks or whatever.

As a DD owner in a dynasty league I am fully aware of this. If DD misses a few games, thows up say 900 rushing and 300 receiveing and 6 TD's, the Texan fans are going to be rioting in the street if Bush does absolutely anything. At that point, unless Mario gets 15 sacks nothing will stop the boos when DD touches the ball and the Texans will be going RB next year with this first pick in the draft...

 

[MLBrandow]

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and they decided to pass on Bush.

How pissed will Texan fans be if Davis is not 100% this season, and Reggie Bush just blows it up in N.O. That will impact fan anger more then if Williams gets 8 sacks or whatever.

As a DD owner in a dynasty league I am fully aware of this. If DD misses a few games, thows up say 900 rushing and 300 receiveing and 6 TD's, the Texan fans are going to be rioting in the street if Bush does absolutely anything. At that point, unless Mario gets 15 sacks nothing will stop the boos when DD touches the ball and the Texans will be going RB next year with this first pick in the draft...

As a DD owner you should be fully aware that he has consistently outproduced some of the best backs in the NFL on a game by game basis. Add to that the makings of a legitimate passing game and a retooled offense with an all-pro blocking scheme... I don't think there's a chance he clips below 1500 and 10. DD is in fine health.While some of this was coach speak, I really hope to see a lot of double RB formations with Morency and DD in the backfield, as I am a big fan of Morency, and think the two of them together will be one hell of a backfield tandem.

looked for a good 20 minutes for that chart I did of YPG from the top RBs.... couldn't find the post, but in 36 GS for DD over his career, he's averaged 124YPG and 1.2TD

 

[Franknbeans]

you are reading too much into his comments, I live in Denver and Kubiak says the same stuff every year

and with the exception of Clarett he's been right

 

[MLBrandow]

you are reading too much into his comments, I live in Denver and Kubiak says the same stuff every year

and with the exception of Clarett he's been right

Shanahan drafted him.

 

[SSOG]

you are reading too much into his comments, I live in Denver and Kubiak says the same stuff every year

and with the exception of Clarett he's been right

Clarett was actually a guy that Bobby Turner was pushing hard for. Also, I don't think Kubiak ever said anything positive about Clarett. He was a mess from the second he stepped onto the field. Only comments I remember about him were questioning his work ethic.Also, srnohav is correct, Shanahan and Kubiak have always had very high praise for a long list of RBs who never even saw the field, such as Garrison Hearst and Ahmaad Galloway.

 

[T Man]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but is it really shocking for the new coach to say he is pleasantly surprised by the depth at RB. And what does this mean. If he thought before he had nothing, and now he has something, he'd be surprised.

Wouldn't be more surprising if he said "Our RBs ara a concern as our number one is injury prone and there is no depth behind him".

The actions of the Texans in attempting to convince the Saints to trade Michael Bennet suggest that they are not that satisfied with the depth at RB.

Offseason filler material.

That being said, I think that a backfield of DD, Morency and Smith is not that bad. DD has been good when healthy and I think Morency has talent.

 

[Family Matters]

Does it concern anyone that a coach would be surprised at what they have? You'd think he'd of planned it and not be surprised.

 

[SSOG]

Does it concern anyone that a coach would be surprised at what they have? You'd think he'd of planned it and not be surprised.

I don't know. I think if I got to Houston and came to any conclusion other than that everyone there didn't suck, I'd be surprised, too.I think it was like a "Wow, these guys really don't suck that hard after all. How the hell did Dom Capers only win 2 games last year?"

 

[heidbrink]

What he isn't saying is how surprised he is at the talent and depth of the O-Line. It's going to be another tough year for DD, Carr and Andre I'm afraid. 12 sacks for mario and/or having Bush in the backfield are inconsequential compared to this teams fundamental issue of the inability to protect the quarterback and open running lanes.

 

[NOSRAC247]

Of course he is. What'd you think he'd be saying, "oh, our rb's suck this year" and with not drafting Bush, they gotta stay optimistic about it. I still think it was a big mistake. Kube's knows what he's doing though

 

[Donnybrook]

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but is it really shocking for the new coach to say he is pleasantly surprised by the depth at RB. And what does this mean. If he thought before he had nothing, and now he has something, he'd be surprised.

Wouldn't be more surprising if he said "Our RBs ara a concern as our number one is injury prone and there is no depth behind him".

The actions of the Texans in attempting to convince the Saints to trade Michael Bennet suggest that they are not that satisfied with the depth at RB.

Offseason filler material.

That being said, I think that a backfield of DD, Morency and Smith is not that bad. DD has been good when healthy and I think Morency has talent.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Kubiak is trying to save face now, as he opted to draft Mario Williams rather than Reggie Bush and now Dom Davis's knee is acting up (again).

He learned from one of the best to cover up injuries/problems - his mentor Skeletor aka Mike Shanahan.

 

[SSOG]

Kubiak is trying to save face now, as he opted to draft Mario Williams rather than Reggie Bush and now Dom Davis's knee is acting up (again).

He learned from one of the best to cover up injuries/problems - his mentor Skeletor aka Mike Shanahan.

Shanahan covered up ONE injury, during a game to protect his player (he came clean immediately afterwards), and suddenly he can't live it down?Even if Davis dies from complications of the knee surgery tomorrow, I still think passing on Bush was the smart move. Why pay $8 million a year for 2000 yards from a single back when you can pay $500,000 to two seperate scrub backs for the same total? That's just dumb.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Kubiak is trying to save face now, as he opted to draft Mario Williams rather than Reggie Bush and now Dom Davis's knee is acting up (again).

He learned from one of the best to cover up injuries/problems - his mentor Skeletor aka Mike Shanahan.

Shanahan covered up ONE injury, during a game to protect his player (he came clean immediately afterwards), and suddenly he can't live it down?Even if Davis dies from complications of the knee surgery tomorrow, I still think passing on Bush was the smart move. Why pay $8 million a year for 2000 yards from a single back when you can pay $500,000 to two seperate scrub backs for the same total? That's just dumb.

The frugal George Halas makes a post from his grave. So you'd rather have two lousy RBs vs. one stud? So as an example, last year you would have rather had Cedric Cobbs and Adrian Peterson vs. Ronnie Brown or Cadillac Williams - is that what you're saying?

 

[SSOG]

Kubiak is trying to save face now, as he opted to draft Mario Williams rather than Reggie Bush and now Dom Davis's knee is acting up (again).

He learned from one of the best to cover up injuries/problems - his mentor Skeletor aka Mike Shanahan.

Shanahan covered up ONE injury, during a game to protect his player (he came clean immediately afterwards), and suddenly he can't live it down?Even if Davis dies from complications of the knee surgery tomorrow, I still think passing on Bush was the smart move. Why pay $8 million a year for 2000 yards from a single back when you can pay $500,000 to two seperate scrub backs for the same total? That's just dumb.

The frugal George Halas makes a post from his grave. So you'd rather have two lousy RBs vs. one stud? So as an example, last year you would have rather had Cedric Cobbs and Adrian Peterson vs. Ronnie Brown or Cadillac Williams - is that what you're saying?

No, this is what I'm saying.I would rather have 2539 yards rushing with 25 TDs than 2266 yards rushing with 21 TDs.

The first value is what Denver put up with two minimum-salary RBs. The second number is what Denver put up in 2002 with Clinton Portis, the last true "stud" in the backfield. Clinton Portis is now one of the highest-paid RBs in the NFL. Tell me, which would you rather have- 2266/21 from one of the highest paid RBs in the NFL, or 2539/25 with two minimum-salary RBs?

I'm concerned with rushing TOTALS, not individual rushing performances. If I can get the same results using 2 RBs at a tenth the price that I can get using 1 stud, then I would say that paying all that much money to a stud RB seems pretty darn stupid. Maybe that's just me.

 

[Family Matters]

Does it concern anyone that a coach would be surprised at what they have? You'd think he'd of planned it and not be surprised.

I don't know. I think if I got to Houston and came to any conclusion other than that everyone there didn't suck, I'd be surprised, too.I think it was like a "Wow, these guys really don't suck that hard after all. How the hell did Dom Capers only win 2 games last year?"

OK, OK. I'll go with that one!