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Coach Otis All-Value Team (1 Viewer)

Otis said:
Sam Bradford

We boldly pinned him at QB12 and indicated Clayton would be heavily involved. Bradford sits around QB18 depending on your scoring format. Clayton was looking like dynamite, at around WR10, before his season-ender. That's fine. Bradford will continue to develop as a rookie, Amendola will benefit, and watch for Denario Alexander to become a tremendous fantasy force in his own right, giving Bradford a real NFL WR1. He's not quite QB12 yet, but don't be surprised to see him continue to improve over time and move up from his current spot to get there, because this kid could literally thread a needle from 50 yards out. Truth. He went #1 overall in my hawk-only Elite Dyno XL III fantasy sewing league.

Bonus: Pierre Garcon

He was a bonus pick, so don't complain. If I get a free raffle ticket and I don't win the Vespa, I'm not sitting here complaining about it, because it was a freakin' free raffle ticket to begin with. Garcon has been disappointingly bad. I don't have him rostered in any of my leagues. I don't care much about him. Did I mention you should pick up Danario "The Scenario" up while you can? That one's free too. But it'll cash. In fact, just cross out "Pierre" and replace it with "Danario."
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BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
RB

Jerome Harrison

Joe Bryant gives us lots of good advice. Well, except for that one preseason he kept telling me not to take Frank Gore because Kevan Barlow or Michael Robinson or some other clown was the go-to-guy there, and I had to keep pulling Chase aside in a bar and plead with him that "you guys have got this one all wrong" but still nobody listened to old Oats, and we all know how that one turned out (with Calbear huddled in a corner in a pool of his own tears gripping a wet Kevan Barlow poster). That all went down in 2005, and this sort of feels a whole lot like 2005 to me. Because in every single writeup you see things like "well, with Hardesty hurt, expect to see Peyton Hillis and James Davis carry the load here." Wait, what? Why are we completely ignoring a guy who went bananas at the end of last year, and who has all the opportunity in the world to run behind a much better-than-advertised run blocking line (I've documented all of these thoughts and more here). And then we now have Mangini finally acknowledging that "There's no more time to wait," -- "He's going to get a lot of work." The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE. I don't see other predictors tossing out guarantees like that here (yes MoP, I'm looking at you).

-Otis and Out
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You probably should post an e-mail because your pm box won't hold the 30,000 messages with addresses to send the dollar. I do have a legal question for you. Since your new wifey married you after this statement, is she on the hook for 15K and licking 15K envelopes or does she get a pre-marital pass?Actually I would propose a class action alternative that most would agree to. Write a $30,000 check to the charity of Joe's choice and we'll call it even and you can take the deduction. If J doesn't want to step up, I would suggest the Carolina Raptor Rescue Center. http://www.carolinaraptorcenter.org/donation_form.php Gotta help out those crippled hawks.
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BassNBrew said:
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
RB

Jerome Harrison

Joe Bryant gives us lots of good advice. Well, except for that one preseason he kept telling me not to take Frank Gore because Kevan Barlow or Michael Robinson or some other clown was the go-to-guy there, and I had to keep pulling Chase aside in a bar and plead with him that "you guys have got this one all wrong" but still nobody listened to old Oats, and we all know how that one turned out (with Calbear huddled in a corner in a pool of his own tears gripping a wet Kevan Barlow poster). That all went down in 2005, and this sort of feels a whole lot like 2005 to me. Because in every single writeup you see things like "well, with Hardesty hurt, expect to see Peyton Hillis and James Davis carry the load here." Wait, what? Why are we completely ignoring a guy who went bananas at the end of last year, and who has all the opportunity in the world to run behind a much better-than-advertised run blocking line (I've documented all of these thoughts and more here). And then we now have Mangini finally acknowledging that "There's no more time to wait," -- "He's going to get a lot of work." The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE. I don't see other predictors tossing out guarantees like that here (yes MoP, I'm looking at you).

-Otis and Out
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You probably should post an e-mail because your pm box won't hold the 30,000 messages with addresses to send the dollar. I do have a legal question for you. Since your new wifey married you after this statement, is she on the hook for 15K and licking 15K envelopes or does she get a pre-marital pass?Actually I would propose a class action alternative that most would agree to. Write a $30,000 check to the charity of Joe's choice and we'll call it even and you can take the deduction. If J doesn't want to step up, I would suggest the Carolina Raptor Rescue Center. http://www.carolinaraptorcenter.org/donation_form.php Gotta help out those crippled hawks.
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Sure thing. Link
 
Otis said:
BassNBrew said:
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
RB

Jerome Harrison

Joe Bryant gives us lots of good advice. Well, except for that one preseason he kept telling me not to take Frank Gore because Kevan Barlow or Michael Robinson or some other clown was the go-to-guy there, and I had to keep pulling Chase aside in a bar and plead with him that "you guys have got this one all wrong" but still nobody listened to old Oats, and we all know how that one turned out (with Calbear huddled in a corner in a pool of his own tears gripping a wet Kevan Barlow poster). That all went down in 2005, and this sort of feels a whole lot like 2005 to me. Because in every single writeup you see things like "well, with Hardesty hurt, expect to see Peyton Hillis and James Davis carry the load here." Wait, what? Why are we completely ignoring a guy who went bananas at the end of last year, and who has all the opportunity in the world to run behind a much better-than-advertised run blocking line (I've documented all of these thoughts and more here). And then we now have Mangini finally acknowledging that "There's no more time to wait," -- "He's going to get a lot of work." The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE. I don't see other predictors tossing out guarantees like that here (yes MoP, I'm looking at you).

-Otis and Out
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You probably should post an e-mail because your pm box won't hold the 30,000 messages with addresses to send the dollar. I do have a legal question for you. Since your new wifey married you after this statement, is she on the hook for 15K and licking 15K envelopes or does she get a pre-marital pass?Actually I would propose a class action alternative that most would agree to. Write a $30,000 check to the charity of Joe's choice and we'll call it even and you can take the deduction. If J doesn't want to step up, I would suggest the Carolina Raptor Rescue Center. http://www.carolinaraptorcenter.org/donation_form.php Gotta help out those crippled hawks.
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Update please....
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Sure thing. Link
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So he's just saving up the yards to have that big 150 yard day???It's happened 5 times by a Philly RB since 1995.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/g...c&display=s

 
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
BassNBrew said:
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
RB

Jerome Harrison

Joe Bryant gives us lots of good advice. Well, except for that one preseason he kept telling me not to take Frank Gore because Kevan Barlow or Michael Robinson or some other clown was the go-to-guy there, and I had to keep pulling Chase aside in a bar and plead with him that "you guys have got this one all wrong" but still nobody listened to old Oats, and we all know how that one turned out (with Calbear huddled in a corner in a pool of his own tears gripping a wet Kevan Barlow poster). That all went down in 2005, and this sort of feels a whole lot like 2005 to me. Because in every single writeup you see things like "well, with Hardesty hurt, expect to see Peyton Hillis and James Davis carry the load here." Wait, what? Why are we completely ignoring a guy who went bananas at the end of last year, and who has all the opportunity in the world to run behind a much better-than-advertised run blocking line (I've documented all of these thoughts and more here). And then we now have Mangini finally acknowledging that "There's no more time to wait," -- "He's going to get a lot of work." The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE. I don't see other predictors tossing out guarantees like that here (yes MoP, I'm looking at you).

-Otis and Out
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You probably should post an e-mail because your pm box won't hold the 30,000 messages with addresses to send the dollar. I do have a legal question for you. Since your new wifey married you after this statement, is she on the hook for 15K and licking 15K envelopes or does she get a pre-marital pass?Actually I would propose a class action alternative that most would agree to. Write a $30,000 check to the charity of Joe's choice and we'll call it even and you can take the deduction. If J doesn't want to step up, I would suggest the Carolina Raptor Rescue Center. http://www.carolinaraptorcenter.org/donation_form.php Gotta help out those crippled hawks.
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Update please....
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Sure thing. Link
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So he's just saving up the yards to have that big 150 yard day???It's happened 5 times by a Philly RB since 1995.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/g...c&display=s
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So is this the part where a shark tells me in week 6 that I'm wrong about one of the things I predicted?Never could have seen this coming.

PS... Did I mention the season isn't over yet? If I'd have made the same prediction about him last year, it wouldn't have become right until week 15. Then again, we all know time passes more slowly under water than it does up here in the bright blue sky...

 
Otis said:
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
BassNBrew said:
Otis said:
RB

Jerome Harrison

Joe Bryant gives us lots of good advice. Well, except for that one preseason he kept telling me not to take Frank Gore because Kevan Barlow or Michael Robinson or some other clown was the go-to-guy there, and I had to keep pulling Chase aside in a bar and plead with him that "you guys have got this one all wrong" but still nobody listened to old Oats, and we all know how that one turned out (with Calbear huddled in a corner in a pool of his own tears gripping a wet Kevan Barlow poster). That all went down in 2005, and this sort of feels a whole lot like 2005 to me. Because in every single writeup you see things like "well, with Hardesty hurt, expect to see Peyton Hillis and James Davis carry the load here." Wait, what? Why are we completely ignoring a guy who went bananas at the end of last year, and who has all the opportunity in the world to run behind a much better-than-advertised run blocking line (I've documented all of these thoughts and more here). And then we now have Mangini finally acknowledging that "There's no more time to wait," -- "He's going to get a lot of work." The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE. I don't see other predictors tossing out guarantees like that here (yes MoP, I'm looking at you).

-Otis and Out
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Update please....
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Sure thing. Link
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So he's just saving up the yards to have that big 150 yard day???It's happened 5 times by a Philly RB since 1995.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/g...c&display=s
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So is this the part where a shark tells me in week 6 that I'm wrong about one of the things I predicted?Never could have seen this coming.

PS... Did I mention the season isn't over yet? If I'd have made the same prediction about him last year, it wouldn't have become right until week 15. Then again, we all know time passes more slowly under water than it does up here in the bright blue sky...
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One of us did make that prediction, around week 112 or 13, before anyone else did :moneybag: Of course, I think that guy also told you how terrible a prediction it was for this year. And still is, barring injury.

 
CaptainHook said:
ill let u buy out of my dollar for 99 cents and im pretty sure im giving you a good deal
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If you were really confident, you'd offer to pay him $2 if Harrison doesn't go for 150. :popcorn:

 
Gotta admit, looking back at the list, definitely a lot of hits. Nice job Otis.

The misses are understandable. When that big of a swing that early, you're going to miss a few. I was on the LJ train too...

 
Late225 said:
Gotta admit, looking back at the list, definitely a lot of hits. Nice job Otis. The misses are understandable. When that big of a swing that early, you're going to miss a few. I was on the LJ train too...
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What hits did he have besides Welker?If you drafted those guys at their ADP you're team was starting in a huge hole.
 
Otis said:
Mike Williams

No, I'm not even going to bother to specify which one I'm talking about, because if you followed my instructions at the beginning of this thread, only hawks are reading this, and you already know. Let the sharks waste their time with a rookie WR who'll have Josh Freeman hucking knuckleballs at him all season.
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Ghost Rider said:
Otis said:
Mike Williams

No, I'm not even going to bother to specify which one I'm talking about, because if you followed my instructions at the beginning of this thread, only hawks are reading this, and you already know. Let the sharks waste their time with a rookie WR who'll have Josh Freeman hucking knuckleballs at him all season.
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This one definitely favors the rookie but if BMW keeps getting 12 targets/game the end of season numbers could look much closer than they do right now.Still it was a miss by any measure.

 
Ghost Rider said:
Otis said:
Mike Williams

No, I'm not even going to bother to specify which one I'm talking about, because if you followed my instructions at the beginning of this thread, only hawks are reading this, and you already know. Let the sharks waste their time with a rookie WR who'll have Josh Freeman hucking knuckleballs at him all season.
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Bradford, Garcon, Royal, Big Mike, Heap, Jerome Harrison can be a fantasy playoff winner if something happens to mccoy. Not perfect, but a tad over 50% ain't bad.

 
Late225 said:
Ghost Rider said:
Otis said:
Mike Williams

No, I'm not even going to bother to specify which one I'm talking about, because if you followed my instructions at the beginning of this thread, only hawks are reading this, and you already know. Let the sharks waste their time with a rookie WR who'll have Josh Freeman hucking knuckleballs at him all season.
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Bradford, Garcon, Royal, Big Mike, Heap, Jerome Harrison can be a fantasy playoff winner if something happens to mccoy. Not perfect, but a tad over 50% ain't bad.
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Garcon? He has one TD, and starts at WR for the Colts. Jerome Harrison? Were Harrison owners supposed to hang onto him all year, in the hopes after he got traded for a bag of used footballs that the guy in front of him gets injured? Is that the hawk move?

He hit on Mike Williams, while telling you the other Mike Williams was pretty much useless.

 
I'm done defending the guy. I liked his picks. He definitely needs a higher hit percentage on running backs next year, but he did well. Hell, I drafted Devery Henderson so I really don't have much room to talk here, lol.

 
Late225 said:
I'm done defending the guy. I liked his picks. He definitely needs a higher hit percentage on running backs next year, but he did well. Hell, I drafted Devery Henderson so I really don't have much room to talk here, lol.
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He did well? It looks like he missed on all but 1.5 picks right now. Since I'm personally called out, I'll give a player by player analysis below.
 
QB

Sam Bradford

Bradford is the real deal. A consummate professional. And he'll quietly put up statistics we haven't seen from a rookie QB in years. Top 12 in standard scoring when it's all said and done. He'll be hampered a bit by the INTs, but he'll very quietly and reliably put up stats.

Bradford is currently QB20; replacement level, scoring just behind Ryan Fitzpatrick (with two extra games). He's looked OK for a rookie, but has virtually no chance of finishing near the top 12. Miss, but not a bad one.



RB

Jerome Harrison

The guy hasn't failed as a starting RB yet, his team had more success with him behind the wheel, and they don't have a ton of other options at this point. I'll send everyone here a dollar if he doesn't rush for 150 yards in at least one game this year. THAT'S LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PEOPLE.

Dropped by Cleveland, Otis is on the hook for $30K here. Complete whiff.



Matt Forte

He won't average 4.5 YPC, but he will outperform all expectations and be a starting caliber fantasy back. Hawks roll with Forte. Let the gups take Gore.

Half-right; Forte is RB14, starting-caliber. The gups who took Gore have the #4 RB. Looks like gups are smacking the birdies around so far.



BONUS: Larry Johnson

I just wish he'd stop doing that stupid diamond thing in the end zone, because he looks like a moron.

He's not the only one.



WR

Mike Williams

Let the sharks waste their time with a rookie WR who'll have Josh Freeman hucking knuckleballs at him all season...I firmly believe this kid is going to break 1,000 yards receiving this year and catch at least eight touchdowns.

Seattle Mike is WR46; Tampa Mike is WR15. Whiff.



Wes Welker

But the point is that his ADP is somewhere close to the 20th WR off the board, and you'll end up with a top-8 WR.

Currently WR43. At least he's beating Seattle Mike.



Eddie Royal

I had to scroll down a few pages in the rankings to find him, but he's going as the 46th receiver off the board. Eddie Royal had 91 catches as a rookie. Jabar Gaffney? I honestly checked arena league rosters before even looking to think he was slated to be a WR1 in the NFL. Eddie Royal will have 91 catches this year too.

Eddie Royal is WR44. You can count on Otis to pick those replacement-level WRs. Gaffney is WR31.



Bonus: Pierre Garcon

This WR24, if you're willing to sink to these easy picks, will finish top-15WR this year.

Currently WR66.



TE

Todd Heap

I know it's just preseason and I know nobody cares, but Flacco will target his nads off (approaching the 100+ targets of some years ago, and sufficient to get him the production he needs to be a top-5-7 TE this season

Currently TE7, this looks like a successful call, though not particularly impressive.



Bonus: Heath Miller

His 98 targets and 5 TDs from 2009 will inflate to 120+ and 10+, and all of the sudden we'll all be sitting in a circle saying "jumpin' moses, when the hell did Heath Miller get so good."

Currently TE24, with 25 receptions and 1 TD.

So, of 10 calls, two (Heap and Forte) were basically correct, although one of those (Forte) included advice to avoid a player whose production has drubbed Forte's. Also a major whiff on Tampa Mike and wrong on Jabar Gaffney. I'll give you 2 out of 12--and while Heap and Forte have been OK, neither one is a major difference-maker in fantasy football this year.

I enjoy Otis' writing style, but his predictions are just the latest edition of Dead Wrong In Public.

 
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Calbear> Hint: I wasn't saying Forte was going to be better than Gore. I was saying that one is an obvious stud; the other is a longshot late pick who could become a stud.

You're as bad as this as you were when you kept telling us Gore sucked and Deshaun Foster was the man.

Swim fella swim.

 
CalBear said:
Jerome Harrison

Dropped by Cleveland, Otis is on the hook for $30K here. Complete whiff.
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Glad to see you're watching football. Here are his numbers from literally yesterday:

11-109-1

1-15

Not the 150 yard rushing game yet, but we're barely past halfway through the season...

 
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Otis said:
Calbear> Hint: I wasn't saying Forte was going to be better than Gore. I was saying that one is an obvious stud; the other is a longshot late pick who could become a stud.You're as bad as this as you were when you kept telling us Gore sucked and Deshaun Foster was the man.Swim fella swim.
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Sorry, Otis but you failed here. Look forward to seeing your All-Value Team after most of the drafts have been done next season. :thumbup:
 
Mike Williams is well outperforming his draft position, and has come on strong since I reaffirmed that pick in week 6.

Todd Heap I nailed.

Eddie Royal was dynamite through 7 weeks. He quieted the last few, but is still on pace for nearly 80 catches. Plenty of time to make that up and hit 91.

Forte I nailed.

Bradford has been excellent for a rookie QB. He's not been a fantasy dynamo, but they lost Clayton and their entire WR corps to season-ending injuries. Prior to Clayton going out for the season, he looked great.

As for Welker, I'm sorry I didn't predict that Randy Moss would play musical teams this season. Nobody was predicting he would leave the Pats midway through. While he was still on the team, Welker was looking fantastic.

It's easy to poke holes, but there were plenty of hits here, and the misses were looking great until injuries/trades ruined them.

Miller, Garcon, and LJ were "Bonus" picks, meaning throw-ins at the end that nobody cared about but I thought were worth a flyer. Those weren't the primary picks.

 
Stinger Ray said:
Otis said:
Calbear> Hint: I wasn't saying Forte was going to be better than Gore. I was saying that one is an obvious stud; the other is a longshot late pick who could become a stud.You're as bad as this as you were when you kept telling us Gore sucked and Deshaun Foster was the man.Swim fella swim.
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Sorry, Otis but you failed here. Look forward to seeing your All-Value Team after most of the drafts have been done next season. :lmao:
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