Colin Cowherd Reporting (1 Viewer)

[Road Dogg]

Hilter never got suspended

 

[Hoosier16]

They will all come out to the NFL. Games served will be zero.

I don't think any will come out. They will all still get to play 9 games if they come back.

This type of stuff has been going on for YEARS at Ohio State. AJ Hawk once went to the police about several thousand dollars in cash stolen from his apartment. Clarrett had a similar story. How do you think they do that?

Hawk didn't grow up in poverty.

The tough thing for Pryor is the UFL is actually a pay cut from playing at Ohio St.

If that were even remotely true, he wouldn't have to sell his stuff.

His two role models are Lebron and Vick. The guy is going to be under heavy scrutiny in NFL interviews. Additionally, he's a less accurate Vince Young with a lower wonderlic score.

Has he already taken the wonderlic?

 

[Moe.]

Not to hijack, but did Cowherd ever explain how the acronym STAB was relevant in the Muschamp hiring?

 

[BigJohn]

And I hate to say it being an OSU fan, but Pryor did himself a major disservice by choosing Ohio State over Michigan. He went to OSU because be wanted to develop into a pocket passer and try to be a first round draft pick. But he hasn't even come close to that. Be would has been much better served being an athletic QB in Rich Rodriguez's spread offense.

Have to disagree completely here. If his goal was to be a great college player, then yes, RRod's offense would have allowed him to rack up tons of numbers. He made a conscious choice to try and develop himself to be a more attractive NFL prospect. I'm sure he hasn't come as far as he expected, but I think that was a major factor in why he announced he was coming back for his senior year. Fact is, he made his choice, and I'm fairly confident if he had to make the choice again, he would make the same one.

 

[Moe.]

I was under the impression the Pryor had about as good of a chance as I do of becoming an NFL qb. Are NFL people looking at him as a serious qb prospect? Would he even get drafted this year, or just sign as a free agent after the draft?

 

[Choke]

But if this happened to your daughter, I'm sure you'd take a different stance.

You mean my drunken daughter who followed Ben around from bar to bar and was wearing a "Down to Fornicate" name tag? That didnt press any charges until pressured by her peers and then backtracked?Or do you mean my other daughter who told all her friends that her an Ben were in love and he was going to take her way?Either way, since you asked about my daughter and my scenario ... I'd be talking to (and looking) directly at my daughter.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Work with a guy who was on one of the BIG 12 Championships with Oklahoma and he sold his ring and other "collectibles" that were given to him at different bowls. When I asked him about it he said he just wanted some walking around money, and didn't think much about it.

I guess I am the only one that didn't know that it was against rules/regulations to sell awards, rings, equipment that is awarded to the athlete.

 

[BigJohn]

Work with a guy who was on one of the BIG 12 Championships with Oklahoma and he sold his ring and other "collectibles" that were given to him at different bowls. When I asked him about it he said he just wanted some walking around money, and didn't think much about it. I guess I am the only one that didn't know that it was against rules/regulations to sell awards, rings, equipment that is awarded to the athlete.

Did he sell them while he was still in school?

 

[Saints-Man]

Good to see the NCAA disgracing itself once again.

I don't know how you can call the NCAA anything but plantation owners.

 

[Phase of the Game]

I was under the impression the Prior had about as good of a chance as I do of becoming an NFL qb. Are NFL people looking at him as a serious qb prospect? Would he even get drafted this year, or just sign as a free agent after the draft?

He will fail as an NFL QB.

 

[Raider Nation]

I was under the impression the Prior had about as good of a chance as I do of becoming an NFL qb. Are NFL people looking at him as a serious qb prospect? Would he even get drafted this year, or just sign as a free agent after the draft?

He will fail as an NFL QB.

We should probably see what Colin Cowherd thinks about it before forming our own opinions. Although if he's wrong, it will not be mentioned ever again.

 

[njherdfan]

I was under the impression the Prior had about as good of a chance as I do of becoming an NFL qb. Are NFL people looking at him as a serious qb prospect? Would he even get drafted this year, or just sign as a free agent after the draft?

How good is your arm?

 

[flapgreen]

The only reason there should be another Cowherd thread is if he got shot.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Work with a guy who was on one of the BIG 12 Championships with Oklahoma and he sold his ring and other "collectibles" that were given to him at different bowls. When I asked him about it he said he just wanted some walking around money, and didn't think much about it. I guess I am the only one that didn't know that it was against rules/regulations to sell awards, rings, equipment that is awarded to the athlete.

Did he sell them while he was still in school?

No, but he didn't even know about this rule.

 

[RandyDB]

"Here's the deal kid. You go out there and do your best. When the money comes rolling in, we'll give you these accolades you can put on your resume and trinkets you can put on your fingers (and a four year free ride for your college education). In exchange, you let us keep all the money that is brought in because of your earning of these awards. I need to warn you though, if you try to make some actual money on your own with these trinkets, we're going to have to gaffle you."

fixed

 

[The Commish]

How many posts before people start bashing Cowherd?

Best radio show out there. :(

Terrible at picking games, but has a fair amount objectivity and brings the discussion a layer above most sports talk conversation.Not afraid to make generalizations.

wait wat?? Generalizations are what most programs do to get callers....it's not substance, it's lazy. Why would he be afraid of generalizing when just about everyone else does the same thing?

 

[Orange Crush]

A school is not allowed to give a student-athlete anything that isn't also available to other students unless it is necessary for participation in the sport (such as trainers, dieticians, etc.).

The schools successfully petitioned the NCAA for trophies, awards, and such, but the rule has to be thay the s-a cannot sell them while still eligible or the rule is meaningless. Can you imagine the diamond-encrusted "participation awards" players would get after every game?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Mel Kiper says none of these kids are first or second round picks (unless Pryor plays TE/WR). Some Kiper states are third rounders at best. With Pryor being a TE like Ramsey with the Raiders.

I want all of them to go pro and have wonderful careers, and tell the NCAA to stick it up their ###! What a farce.

 

[The Commish]

So my local radio show was "off" and I got CC all day today but he confused me right out of the gate when talking about OSU and the "poor" excuse that some of these dopes' parents/fans have been using to justify the actions. Went like this:

"Most college kids are 'poor'. Hell, I was poor when I was in school. It's not a valid excuse" (good to this point). "The kids that are affected the most in this country by the way things are set up for higher education are the middle class. They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt" I was lost at that point....no idea what he was talking about.

 

[Sweatpants]

Not to hijack, but did Cowherd ever explain how the acronym STAB was relevant in the Muschamp hiring?

It's too bad Cowherd didn't get STABbed.

 

[Short Corner]

"They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt"

How do you end up in thousands of dollars of debt if you cant get a loan?

 

[TylerRoseFan]

Watching the 30 for 30 about SMU. Great show. Praps the NCAA should drop the death penalty hammer.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Watching the 30 for 30 about SMU. Great show. Praps the NCAA should drop the death penalty hammer.

The death penalty will never happen again.

 

[The Commish]

"They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt"

How do you end up in thousands of dollars of debt if you cant get a loan?

Well, that....and if you get a loan, you don't have thousands of dollars of debt? Like I said...didn't make any sense to me at all.

 

[Shtaym Syek]

"They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt"

How do you end up in thousands of dollars of debt if you cant get a loan?

Well, that....and if you get a loan, you don't have thousands of dollars of debt? Like I said...didn't make any sense to me at all.

Credit cards down?

 

[The Commish]

"They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt"

How do you end up in thousands of dollars of debt if you cant get a loan?

Well, that....and if you get a loan, you don't have thousands of dollars of debt? Like I said...didn't make any sense to me at all.

Credit cards down?

That's a loan Even if that was what he was eluding to, how does getting a loan prevent debt? What does he think loans are exactly?

 

[Shtaym Syek]

"They can't get loans to go to school and end up with THOUSANDS of dollars in debt"

How do you end up in thousands of dollars of debt if you cant get a loan?

Well, that....and if you get a loan, you don't have thousands of dollars of debt? Like I said...didn't make any sense to me at all.

Credit cards down?

That's a loan

Seriously?

 

[The Commish]

Seriously?

loan1    [lohn] Show IPA–noun1.the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.2.something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, esp. a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.3.loanword.–verb (used with object)4.to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?5.to lend (money) at interest.–verb (used without object)6.to make a loan or loans; lend.—Idiom7.on loan,a.borrowed for temporary use: How many books can I have on loan from the library at one time?b.temporarily provided or released by one's regular employer, superior, or owner for use by another: Our best actor is on loan to another movie studio for two films.Seriously. This is news or just bad fishing?

 

[Shtaym Syek]

Seriously?

loan1    [lohn] Show IPA–noun1.the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.2.something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, esp. a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.3.loanword.–verb (used with object)4.to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?5.to lend (money) at interest.–verb (used without object)6.to make a loan or loans; lend.—Idiom7.on loan,a.borrowed for temporary use: How many books can I have on loan from the library at one time?b.temporarily provided or released by one's regular employer, superior, or owner for use by another: Our best actor is on loan to another movie studio for two films.Seriously. This is news or just bad fishing?

No, it's news that you take things so literally.The "seriously" was referring to the point where you were hung up on the definition of "loan" when credit cards came into the equation. That's clearly not the kind of loan Cowherd was talking about when being in debt. It was a very amused "seriously". I'm even more amused by it now, obviously.

 

[The Commish]

Seriously?

loan1    [lohn] Show IPA–noun1.the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.2.something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, esp. a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.3.loanword.–verb (used with object)4.to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?5.to lend (money) at interest.–verb (used without object)6.to make a loan or loans; lend.—Idiom7.on loan,a.borrowed for temporary use: How many books can I have on loan from the library at one time?b.temporarily provided or released by one's regular employer, superior, or owner for use by another: Our best actor is on loan to another movie studio for two films.Seriously. This is news or just bad fishing?

No, it's news that you take things so literally.The "seriously" was referring to the point where you were hung up on the definition of "loan" when credit cards came into the equation. That's clearly not the kind of loan Cowherd was talking about when being in debt. It was a very amused "seriously". I'm even more amused by it now, obviously.

I can buy that he was being intellectually lazy. So let's address the part of my post you left out....How does getting a college loan prevent one from having debt? His argument was people go into debt because they can't get college loans, yes? If one gets a college loan is that not debt also?

 

[Shtaym Syek]

Seriously?

loan1    [lohn] Show IPA–noun1.the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.2.something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, esp. a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.3.loanword.–verb (used with object)4.to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?5.to lend (money) at interest.–verb (used without object)6.to make a loan or loans; lend.—Idiom7.on loan,a.borrowed for temporary use: How many books can I have on loan from the library at one time?b.temporarily provided or released by one's regular employer, superior, or owner for use by another: Our best actor is on loan to another movie studio for two films.Seriously. This is news or just bad fishing?

No, it's news that you take things so literally.The "seriously" was referring to the point where you were hung up on the definition of "loan" when credit cards came into the equation. That's clearly not the kind of loan Cowherd was talking about when being in debt. It was a very amused "seriously". I'm even more amused by it now, obviously.

I can buy that he was being intellectually lazy. So let's address the part of my post you left out....How does getting a college loan prevent one from having debt? His argument was people go into debt because they can't get college loans, yes? If one gets a college loan is that not debt also?

It prevents you from having reasonable debts.College loans aren't charged at 18% APY.

 

[Das Boot]

Ohio State's official stance on this has been nothing short of disgusting.

Gene Smith, Tressel, Archie Griffin, the NCAA... all tripping over themselves to provide total BS cover for the players "not knowing this specific rule" so that they can play in the bowl game.

Archie in a local radio interview a little while ago 100% dodged a direct question about whether the players should be playing in the Sugar Bowl... because he knows the answer.

From my conversations with friends etc..., there's a strong sentiment from the average person on the street and the silent majority of Ohio State fans that the players should NOT be playing in the bowl game.

And I totally agree.

Thank God there are some local radio show hosts who aren't indoctrinated or intimidated and understand that this is Ohio State and Tressel's chance to show that integrity is more important than money.

I hold out a very small hope that come game time, the guilty players will be on the bench and will not play.

Will it happen?... I doubt it.

But I hope so.

I'd infinitely rather lose with pride than win with hypocrisy.

 

[flapgreen]

Thank God he's not on this week. I can actually listen to ESPN radio some in the mornings.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Ohio State's official stance on this has been nothing short of disgusting.

Gene Smith, Tressel, Archie Griffin, the NCAA... all tripping over themselves to provide total BS cover for the players "not knowing this specific rule" so that they can play in the bowl game.

Archie in a local radio interview a little while ago 100% dodged a direct question about whether the players should be playing in the Sugar Bowl... because he knows the answer.

From my conversations with friends etc..., there's a strong sentiment from the average person on the street and the silent majority of Ohio State fans that the players should NOT be playing in the bowl game.

And I totally agree.

Thank God there are some local radio show hosts who aren't indoctrinated or intimidated and understand that this is Ohio State and Tressel's chance to show that integrity is more important than money.

I hold out a very small hope that come game time, the guilty players will be on the bench and will not play.Will it happen?... I doubt it.

But I hope so.

I'd infinitely rather lose with pride than win with hypocrisy.

I will be the most shocked person on the planet if they are benched. It really does send a bad message to college football players that you can get away with a lot of stuff just by saying "I didn't know" or "it was my daddy." Really sad

 

[The Commish]

Seriously?

loan1    [lohn] Show IPA–noun1.the act of lending; a grant of the temporary use of something: the loan of a book.2.something lent or furnished on condition of being returned, esp. a sum of money lent at interest: a $1000 loan at 10 percent interest.3.loanword.–verb (used with object)4.to make a loan of; lend: Will you loan me your umbrella?5.to lend (money) at interest.–verb (used without object)6.to make a loan or loans; lend.—Idiom7.on loan,a.borrowed for temporary use: How many books can I have on loan from the library at one time?b.temporarily provided or released by one's regular employer, superior, or owner for use by another: Our best actor is on loan to another movie studio for two films.Seriously. This is news or just bad fishing?

No, it's news that you take things so literally.The "seriously" was referring to the point where you were hung up on the definition of "loan" when credit cards came into the equation. That's clearly not the kind of loan Cowherd was talking about when being in debt. It was a very amused "seriously". I'm even more amused by it now, obviously.

I can buy that he was being intellectually lazy. So let's address the part of my post you left out....How does getting a college loan prevent one from having debt? His argument was people go into debt because they can't get college loans, yes? If one gets a college loan is that not debt also?

It prevents you from having reasonable debts.College loans aren't charged at 18% APY.

I don't disagree with what you are saying....there is no way I would have gotten to this the way he went about it that day though. He appeared too busy slinging around generalizations from his soapbox.

 

[BigJohn]

Ohio State's official stance on this has been nothing short of disgusting.Gene Smith, Tressel, Archie Griffin, the NCAA... all tripping over themselves to provide total BS cover for the players "not knowing this specific rule" so that they can play in the bowl game.Archie in a local radio interview a little while ago 100% dodged a direct question about whether the players should be playing in the Sugar Bowl... because he knows the answer.From my conversations with friends etc..., there's a strong sentiment from the average person on the street and the silent majority of Ohio State fans that the players should NOT be playing in the bowl game.And I totally agree.Thank God there are some local radio show hosts who aren't indoctrinated or intimidated and understand that this is Ohio State and Tressel's chance to show that integrity is more important than money.I hold out a very small hope that come game time, the guilty players will be on the bench and will not play.Will it happen?... I doubt it.But I hope so.I'd infinitely rather lose with pride than win with hypocrisy.

There were rumors last night of a "seniors-only" meeting where they decided they would ask Tressel to bench the 5 players involved. Haven't heard anything since.

 

[beer 30]

Ohio State's official stance on this has been nothing short of disgusting.Gene Smith, Tressel, Archie Griffin, the NCAA... all tripping over themselves to provide total BS cover for the players "not knowing this specific rule" so that they can play in the bowl game.Archie in a local radio interview a little while ago 100% dodged a direct question about whether the players should be playing in the Sugar Bowl... because he knows the answer.From my conversations with friends etc..., there's a strong sentiment from the average person on the street and the silent majority of Ohio State fans that the players should NOT be playing in the bowl game.And I totally agree.Thank God there are some local radio show hosts who aren't indoctrinated or intimidated and understand that this is Ohio State and Tressel's chance to show that integrity is more important than money.I hold out a very small hope that come game time, the guilty players will be on the bench and will not play.Will it happen?... I doubt it.But I hope so.I'd infinitely rather lose with pride than win with hypocrisy.

There were rumors last night of a "seniors-only" meeting where they decided they would ask Tressel to bench the 5 players involved. Haven't heard anything since.

Not that I hope for an OSU loss but it would be refreshing to see that happen. This whole thing is a mockery the way it's being handled and I'm a huge OSU fan.

 

[xulf]

I'm also in C-Bus...and the majority of people do want them benched.

If they play, its a lose-lose situation. If we win, we win with cheaters. If we lose, the SEC will be perceived as so dominant that we can't even win with cheaters.

So far, only Posey has said that he will for sure come back. He could be blowing smoke, but why not start the suspension early, appeal, and hope for a reduction next year?

 

[D-Day]

As far as playing in the Sugar Bowl, the players really don't have a choice of when the suspension starts. They may want to sit this game out, but the parties with the power are going to have them play.

There is too much financial benefit to tOSU, NCAA, the Sugar Bowl, TV networks, even Las Vegas in having these players play in this game, vs missing 5 games next year. ALL of those organizations are willing to take the public relations black eye instead of giving up the money.

 

[wadegarrett]

As far as playing in the Sugar Bowl, the players really don't have a choice of when the suspension starts. They may want to sit this game out, but the parties with the power are going to have them play.

There is too much financial benefit to tOSU, NCAA, the Sugar Bowl, TV networks, even Las Vegas in having these players play in this game, vs missing 5 games next year. ALL of those organizations are willing to take the public relations black eye instead of giving up the money.

Ohio State lost nearly $80,000 by going to last year's Rose Bowl. If that's a financial benefit, I certainly wouldn't want one.

 

[oneohh]

I'm also in C-Bus...and the majority of people do want them benched.

If they play, its a lose-lose situation. If we win, we win with cheaters. If we lose, the SEC will be perceived as so dominant that we can't even win with cheaters.

So far, only Posey has said that he will for sure come back. He could be blowing smoke, but why not start the suspension early, appeal, and hope for a reduction next year?

Yeah except for the fact that the SEC wins with cheaters.

 

[Orange Crush]

As far as playing in the Sugar Bowl, the players really don't have a choice of when the suspension starts. They may want to sit this game out, but the parties with the power are going to have them play.There is too much financial benefit to tOSU, NCAA, the Sugar Bowl, TV networks, even Las Vegas in having these players play in this game, vs missing 5 games next year. ALL of those organizations are willing to take the public relations black eye instead of giving up the money.

Public relations is irreversibly intertwined with commercial benefit. If a substantial part of the consuming public views tOSU, the NCAA, and the Sugar Bowl as tolerating or excusing cheating, then fewer people are going to want to consume their products. TV ratings decrease, ad revenue drops, and the entities involved lose money.If you're disgusted by this ruling, then don't watch the game.

 

[Road Dogg]

I wonder how much of a "benefit" Tressel or the AD gets if OSU wins this Bowl game?

 

[Road Dogg]

I wonder how much of a "benefit" Tressel or the AD gets if OSU wins this Bowl game?

maybe tressel does not have a bonus for a BCS win

 

[wadegarrett]

I wonder how much of a "benefit" Tressel or the AD gets if OSU wins this Bowl game?

They both "benefit" if they just make a Bowl. ADs and Bowl Executives have the biggest scam running.

 

[Orange Crush]

I wonder how much of a "benefit" Tressel or the AD gets if OSU wins this Bowl game?

It's actually one of the rarities in Tressel's contract. Unlike other elite coaches, Tressel doesn't have many performance incentives in his deal. He'll get an extra $200K if his team plays in the national championship game. Nothing for anything less than that. But he still gets over $4M a year in salary and benefits. Link.

 

[wadegarrett]

This is so disgusting it should be criminal...

* Bowl games enjoy tax-free, not-for-profit status despite generating money: “The Sugar Bowl finished 2007 with $37 million in assets and turned an $11.6 million profit. What’s more, the Sugar Bowl accepted $3 million from the Louisiana state government—this a year before it was announced that the state was running a $341 million shortfall in its budget.”

* Bowl executives are handsomely compensated: “Working for bowls is a great gig, if you can get it…. The money is excellent, even for such inconsequential games as the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, whose executive director, Gary Cavalli, is unlikely to go hungry, having pocketed $377,475 in 2009. Cavalli, of course, is a bargain compared with Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan, who made $607,500 in fiscal 2007.”

* The majority of a bowl’s revenue goes to the bowl, not the participating schools: “The 2007 Chick-fil-A Bowl generated $12.3 million in revenue but paid out just $5.9 million total to the participating schools, Auburn and Clemson.”

* Schools profit little from bowl games, even if they’re BCS bowls: “The $18.5 million [Ohio State received for making the Rose Bowl last January] went to the Big Ten, where it was added to a pool of bowl revenue that was then sliced into 12 shares—one for each team, one for the league office. That still left Ohio State with a tidy $2.2 million to spend, which the Buckeyes did. Ohio State’s team travel costs were $352,727. Unsold tickets ran the school a cool $144,710. The bill to transport, feed and lodge the band and cheerleaders came to $366,814. Throw in entertainment, gifts and sundry other expenses, and the Buckeyes lost $79,597.”

* Bowls profit off of the teams that play in them: “Halftime entertainment at the Jan. 1, 2009, Outback Bowl was provided by the [iowa] Hawkeye Marching Band. And how did the Tampa Bay Bowl Association, which runs the game, thank the band for that gratis performance? By charging the university $65 a head for each of the 346 band members. According to university records submitted to the NCAA, the school was forced to purchase face-value tickets totaling $22,490 for the band, even though the game wasn’t sold out.” This includes required ticket agreements: “For their appearance in the 2009 Orange Bowl, Virginia Tech and the ACC agreed to purchase 17,500 tickets at $125 per seat, but they could sell only 3,342, according to university documents. The result: a $1.77 million bath for the school, not the bowl.”

* Bonuses for certain coaches/ADs that make bowls: “Coaches land tidy bonuses for even minor-bowl glory. ADs, too, reap a windfall for a bowl invite. The going rate: one month’s extra salary for an appearance in even the lowliest game. Oregon’s Rob Mullens receives $50,000 if the Ducks go bowling. Kentucky’s Mitch Barnhart collects $30,000.”

Clipped from this article.

 

[oneohh]

This is so disgusting it should be criminal...

* Bowl games enjoy tax-free, not-for-profit status despite generating money: “The Sugar Bowl finished 2007 with $37 million in assets and turned an $11.6 million profit. What’s more, the Sugar Bowl accepted $3 million from the Louisiana state government—this a year before it was announced that the state was running a $341 million shortfall in its budget.”

* Bowl executives are handsomely compensated: “Working for bowls is a great gig, if you can get it…. The money is excellent, even for such inconsequential games as the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, whose executive director, Gary Cavalli, is unlikely to go hungry, having pocketed $377,475 in 2009. Cavalli, of course, is a bargain compared with Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan, who made $607,500 in fiscal 2007.”

* The majority of a bowl’s revenue goes to the bowl, not the participating schools: “The 2007 Chick-fil-A Bowl generated $12.3 million in revenue but paid out just $5.9 million total to the participating schools, Auburn and Clemson.”

* Schools profit little from bowl games, even if they’re BCS bowls: “The $18.5 million [Ohio State received for making the Rose Bowl last January] went to the Big Ten, where it was added to a pool of bowl revenue that was then sliced into 12 shares—one for each team, one for the league office. That still left Ohio State with a tidy $2.2 million to spend, which the Buckeyes did. Ohio State’s team travel costs were $352,727. Unsold tickets ran the school a cool $144,710. The bill to transport, feed and lodge the band and cheerleaders came to $366,814. Throw in entertainment, gifts and sundry other expenses, and the Buckeyes lost $79,597.”

* Bowls profit off of the teams that play in them: “Halftime entertainment at the Jan. 1, 2009, Outback Bowl was provided by the [iowa] Hawkeye Marching Band. And how did the Tampa Bay Bowl Association, which runs the game, thank the band for that gratis performance? By charging the university $65 a head for each of the 346 band members. According to university records submitted to the NCAA, the school was forced to purchase face-value tickets totaling $22,490 for the band, even though the game wasn’t sold out.” This includes required ticket agreements: “For their appearance in the 2009 Orange Bowl, Virginia Tech and the ACC agreed to purchase 17,500 tickets at $125 per seat, but they could sell only 3,342, according to university documents. The result: a $1.77 million bath for the school, not the bowl.”

* Bonuses for certain coaches/ADs that make bowls: “Coaches land tidy bonuses for even minor-bowl glory. ADs, too, reap a windfall for a bowl invite. The going rate: one month’s extra salary for an appearance in even the lowliest game. Oregon’s Rob Mullens receives $50,000 if the Ducks go bowling. Kentucky’s Mitch Barnhart collects $30,000.”

Clipped from this article.

And why do they get away with this?

 

[Road Dogg]

For the record, i was not saying there wqas anything wrong if the AD or Tressel did benefit.

Just that it would play in to any "bench" decision

which I do not think is realistic, no way the players are benched, no way

 

[Orange Crush]

This is so disgusting it should be criminal...

* Bowl games enjoy tax-free, not-for-profit status despite generating money: “The Sugar Bowl finished 2007 with $37 million in assets and turned an $11.6 million profit. What’s more, the Sugar Bowl accepted $3 million from the Louisiana state government—this a year before it was announced that the state was running a $341 million shortfall in its budget.”

* Bowl executives are handsomely compensated: “Working for bowls is a great gig, if you can get it…. The money is excellent, even for such inconsequential games as the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, whose executive director, Gary Cavalli, is unlikely to go hungry, having pocketed $377,475 in 2009. Cavalli, of course, is a bargain compared with Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan, who made $607,500 in fiscal 2007.”

* The majority of a bowl’s revenue goes to the bowl, not the participating schools: “The 2007 Chick-fil-A Bowl generated $12.3 million in revenue but paid out just $5.9 million total to the participating schools, Auburn and Clemson.”

* Schools profit little from bowl games, even if they’re BCS bowls: “The $18.5 million [Ohio State received for making the Rose Bowl last January] went to the Big Ten, where it was added to a pool of bowl revenue that was then sliced into 12 shares—one for each team, one for the league office. That still left Ohio State with a tidy $2.2 million to spend, which the Buckeyes did. Ohio State’s team travel costs were $352,727. Unsold tickets ran the school a cool $144,710. The bill to transport, feed and lodge the band and cheerleaders came to $366,814. Throw in entertainment, gifts and sundry other expenses, and the Buckeyes lost $79,597.”

* Bowls profit off of the teams that play in them: “Halftime entertainment at the Jan. 1, 2009, Outback Bowl was provided by the [iowa] Hawkeye Marching Band. And how did the Tampa Bay Bowl Association, which runs the game, thank the band for that gratis performance? By charging the university $65 a head for each of the 346 band members. According to university records submitted to the NCAA, the school was forced to purchase face-value tickets totaling $22,490 for the band, even though the game wasn’t sold out.” This includes required ticket agreements: “For their appearance in the 2009 Orange Bowl, Virginia Tech and the ACC agreed to purchase 17,500 tickets at $125 per seat, but they could sell only 3,342, according to university documents. The result: a $1.77 million bath for the school, not the bowl.”

* Bonuses for certain coaches/ADs that make bowls: “Coaches land tidy bonuses for even minor-bowl glory. ADs, too, reap a windfall for a bowl invite. The going rate: one month’s extra salary for an appearance in even the lowliest game. Oregon’s Rob Mullens receives $50,000 if the Ducks go bowling. Kentucky’s Mitch Barnhart collects $30,000.”

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That's quite surprising.