Continuous Rays thread: fun season (2 Viewers)

[Grahamburn]

Thought I was going to see a no-no last night. Snell was brilliant. 

I couldn’t tell how close the 2-1 pitch to Rendon was, but it felt like the ump squeezed him. 3-1 cookie off the wall. 

At least we got to leave after that! 11 pm bed time is late on a Monday. 

 

[Grahamburn]

:broom:

 

[Epic Problem]

:broom:

 4 game series and they lost on Thursday. Still, 10-6 over their last 16 against an absolute grinder of a schedule. @NYY / @HOU / NYY / WASH / HOU

And the plate discipline of one Jake Bauers is  worthy. 

 

[Grahamburn]

 

[gump]

https://ballparkdigest.com/2018/07/05/details-on-rays-ybor-city-ballpark-set-for-tuesday-unveiling/

 

[Capella]

https://ballparkdigest.com/2018/07/05/details-on-rays-ybor-city-ballpark-set-for-tuesday-unveiling/

The money is going to be extremely interesting to see. 

 

[gump]

The money is going to be extremely interesting to see. 

Definitely.  I also expect a domed stadium design with a lot of large openings.

 

[Capella]

Definitely.  I also expect a domed stadium design with a lot of large openings.

Yea I’m a little worried about another boring dome type but hopefully they come up with something creative. The Marlins Park seems like it has lot of open space and just seems like an awful place to watch a game. 

 

[gump]

Yea I’m a little worried about another boring dome type but hopefully they come up with something creative. The Marlins Park seems like it has lot of open space and just seems like an awful place to watch a game. 

They are telling everyone (partners) that it's 'innovative'.

 

[Capella]

They are telling everyone (partners) that it's 'innovative'.

I’m sure it is and I’m excited to see it. I have no idea how the funding will be put together but I also feel like they kind of have an answer for that already. The way Buckhorn has been crowing about this makes me feel like it’s alresdy done. 

 

[Capella]

From Collette on twitter:

Top 5 Team ERAs since #Rays started bullpenning games on May 19th:

TB: 2.68

NYY: 3.16

LAD: 3.21

HOU: 3.34

SEA: 3.44

insane 

 

[fred_1_15301]

Any reason why Snell didn’t make the all star game?  Seems ludicrous 

 

[Capella]

Any reason why Snell didn’t make the all star game?  Seems ludicrous 

No. Totally ridiculous. 

 

[trident]

Any reason why Snell didn’t make the all star game?

Mainly because of the "at least one player per team needs to be represented" rule.

 

[gump]

 

 

[Capella]

 

You got any stadium info! 

 

[Osaurus]

Not a totally awful return for Archer.  I am surprised.  I heard when the stadium is built in Ybor there will be a rooster crowing every time the Rays hit a home run 

 

[Capella]

Not a totally awful return for Archer.  I am surprised. 

Eh?

 

[Osaurus]

Eh?

For him. 

 

[Capella]

For him. 

Ohhh. I read that as he was traded. Lol

 

[Capella]

900 million for the new yard. OOOF

 

[Eephus]

900 million for the new yard. OOOF

$32K per seat

 

[Eephus]

How do you pronounce Ybor

 

[Northern Voice]

How do you pronounce Ybor

Today I learned that Eephus has never listened to the early Hold Steady albums.  Slapped Actress

 

[Capella]

How do you pronounce Ybor

E-bore

 

[Eephus]

Today I learned that Eephus has never listened to the early Hold Steady albums.  Slapped Actress

I had no idea what Finn was singing about

 

[Grahamburn]

Looks pretty cool.  See you guys at the ballpark in 2023.

 

[gump]

I’m impressed....definitely not going thru the motions....anyone chimed in on practicality of this thing?  nothing new on financing isn’t settling.

 

[Capella]

I’m impressed....definitely not going thru the motions....anyone chimed in on practicality of this thing?  nothing new on financing isn’t settling.

Yes this all seemed fun till Auld basically said they had no idea how this was being paid for? I’ve thought for the longest time that Buckhorn had it figured out but maybe not. Anybody know what revenue sources there are to pay for it?

 

[Eephus]

The Rays haven't gone as far as to commit to even 15-20% of the cost, which seems customary these days.  All the talk about the stadium being a 365 days/year resource for the community would have me reaching to button up my pockets as quickly as possible.  Tampa/St. Pete doesn't have as many tourists to tax as Miami does and we all know how well that's working out down there.

 

[Osaurus]

I’m impressed....definitely not going thru the motions....anyone chimed in on practicality of this thing?  nothing new on financing isn’t settling.

Stu wasn’t interested in even going near financing questions in interviews.  Looking forward to paying for this thing forever.

 

[Osaurus]

Looks pretty cool.  See you guys at the ballpark in 2023.

Were you interviewed by a reporter from WFLA about the stadium by chance?

 

[Grahamburn]

Were you interviewed by a reporter from WFLA about the stadium by chance?

I’d have tried to think of something more profound to say if I was. 

 

[Capella]

The Rays haven't gone as far as to commit to even 15-20% of the cost, which seems customary these days.  All the talk about the stadium being a 365 days/year resource for the community would have me reaching to button up my pockets as quickly as possible.  Tampa/St. Pete doesn't have as many tourists to tax as Miami does and we all know how well that's working out down there.

They committed 150M a while back when the costs weren’t expected to be 900. I would expect them to commit 250. 

 

[gump]

The $900M price tag honestly has me feeling it's not realistic. Not sure how much longer Buckhorn is in office? And there are much larger city issues...water and transit to name two.  I'm not feeling very good about it coming in so high.

 

[Capella]

The $900M price tag honestly has me feeling it's not realistic. Not sure how much longer Buckhorn is in office? And there are much larger city issues...water and transit to name two.  I'm not feeling very good about it coming in so high.

Stu said after it could be brought down some if needed. 900 is absolutely outrageous, they must know that’s not possible. 

 

[Capella]

I’m not for public support of stadiums (I mean maybe 10-15%) so if they leave they leave. I’ll be bummed out and would hate to see them go but Tampa is barely paying their teachers. Coming up with at least 650M for a notoriously cheap franchise isn’t appealing to me. 

But, I’m not a Tampa resident and I want to take my kid to some games so  

 

[Eephus]

Tampa and St. Pete are in different counties, right?  Is there any history of joint funding of regional assets?

 

[Capella]

Tampa and St. Pete are in different counties, right?  Is there any history of joint funding of regional assets?

Yes. No. No history of working together at all actually, which is probably the biggest problem in this area. 

 

[Capella]

Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

 

[Osaurus]

Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

Don forget the gators.

 

[Capella]

Don forget the gators.

Assuming you are talking about their fans, I didn’t. 

 

[gump]

Stu said after it could be brought down some if needed. 900 is absolutely outrageous, they must know that’s not possible. 

Flip the $300m translucent roof out for the current Trop cement one?

 

[Northern Voice]

Other than the oppressive summer heat and the hoards of dumb racists of course. Guess a lot of places have the latter though. 

The heat is the reason for the permanent roof and then the permanent roof means artificial turf, right?

It's interesting to me seeing these new parks proposed/built (counting the new one in Texas as well) with permanent roofs and turf. 

On one hand, I get that the technology and what they can do is light years ahead of the ones built in the 70s/80s and so you can have a great design with lots of natural light but I guess I'm surprised that on the same hand they aren't at a point where they can easily incorporate natural grass within that technology as well.

I know they studied switching to real grass in Toronto as well and found it wasn't really feasible because of the necessary light and drainage but man, turf just seems so much harder on players joints and also baseball should be played on grass.  

 

[Capella]

^^ yes and yes to your first questions. Like 2/3 of the night games here would have a rain delay of some sort IIRC. 

 

[Capella]

As I’ve seen more and more stadiums I have to say any kind of a dome kind of sucks. I was at Atlanta’s place two weeks ago and it made me envious. Oh well. Climate here is untenable in the summer. 

 

[gump]

^^ yes and yes to your first questions. Like 2/3 of the night games here would have a rain delay of some sort IIRC. 

...or on a lucky night, no BP...it’s just not possible.

 

[Osaurus]

Happy for Snell

 

[Osaurus]

Hoping for an Archer trade. 

 

[Osaurus]

Yay!