Coward fatally ambushes 2 NYPD, commits suicide (1 Viewer)

[Tom Servo]

This guy was clearly a piece of crap that was going to kill people at some point but how can anybody in their right mind believe that him heading to NY to kill New York cops is not 100% because of the Eric Garner situation and the rhetoric surrounding it?

He didnt just head out of his apartment one evening and happen to stumble upon some NYPD and in a fit of rage killed them. He freaking traveled to NY after posting he was going to kill two of them and he did it.

This guy was was suicidal based on his social media. He was going to take people with him. He took is GF with him. Then figured why not get some attention and head up to NYC. He could have very well headed to ferguson or sydeny australia and linked himself to isis(like that guy did) for all we know. It does mean that this happened because of the eric garner situation. it happened because this guy is insane.

Any excuse to not blame the extreme anticop rhetoric...

 

[Tom Servo]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

Blame isn't 100% or 0% proposition. Sorry to ruin the either/or polemic rhythm of some of these debates.

This.

 

[Soonerman]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

Are Pataki and Fox encouraging cops to kill?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

And it is dissapointing to see the pd turn their backs on the Mayor before the press conference. Respect the position.

And I think the Mayor is in way over his head.

They showed him the same respect he has shown them.

So you agree that the police are dishonorable, then.

 

[Ilov80s]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

 

[jamny]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

Beer summit

 

[Mr. Retukes]

So if some crazy cop kills a few people next week, are we going to blame pitaki and fox news?

Are Pataki and Fox encouraging cops to kill?

No, but neither did the mayor. Yet he somehow has "blood on his hands".

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

 

[Ilov80s]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

Right. Who are the viable options for people that can speak for each side?

 

[Fennis]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

Right. Who are the viable options for people that can speak for each side?

I volunteer my services.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

Right. Who are the viable options for people that can speak for each side?

It doesnt and shouldnt have to be specific people. It starts with cops getting out in to the neighborhood and having meaningful interaction with the people. And vice versa. Maybe town hall meetings. Protests are fine as well, on both sides. Most of which have been peaceful.

 

[avoiding injuries]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

So if you support protests, you are held accountable? Should we hold people accountable for Jared Lee Loughner as well?

To be fair, we tried to hold Sarah Palin responsible for that one.

 

[jwb]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

 

[Henry Ford]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

I support anti-**** Cheney rhetoric. Doesn't mean I bear any responsibility if some nutjob shoots him. The mayor didn't call for people to start killing cops. He said he understands the protestors' fear and concern. I understand it, too. There are a large number of police officers who abuse their authority. Acknowledging that doesn't mean we should go around murdering police officers.

 

[Ilov80s]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

 

[sporthenry]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

Unfortunately, the dialogue seems to have evolved past any sort of discourse. Heck, if you engage in civil discourse, you might get blood on your hands. Obama has the DOJ reviewing police/civilian interactions and apparently he doesn't just want some feel good results but actionable items. I'm not holding my breath but it's a start. Unfortunately, seems like body cams might just be the best answer to restore some trust.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

See i think that there is no one person that can speak for any large group. Cops have different perspectives, just as black people, white people, poor people, etc. do. The more discourse from as many people the better. Because then we avoid the situations where someone says something, and then that youtube clip goes viral and everyone thinks that guy speaks for the entire group.

 

[rockaction]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

See i think that there is no one person that can speak for any large group. Cops have different perspectives, just as black people, white people, poor people, etc. do. The more discourse from as many people the better. Because then we avoid the situations where someone says something, and then that youtube clip goes viral and everyone thinks that guy speaks for the entire group.

People have a lot of experiences that they bring to bear. Then again, I don't think dialogue does anything, because this country is scared of frank discussions of anything. The Fourth Estate, empowered rightfully, is actually the most stultifying thing I see in today's society.

 

[Ilov80s]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

See i think that there is no one person that can speak for any large group. Cops have different perspectives, just as black people, white people, poor people, etc. do. The more discourse from as many people the better. Because then we avoid the situations where someone says something, and then that youtube clip goes viral and everyone thinks that guy speaks for the entire group.

I actually think the opposite. When there is no leadership, everything is splintered and you have millions of people going in 100 different directions. Nothing gets done because it's just a bunch of different groups asking for different answers. Your ideas are good, but before that happens, I think there need to be a group of key players that are level headed and can create a starting point and establish a real commitment to moving forward peacefully.

 

[jwb]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

The big difference to me is, there is no real spokesperson for the civilian side that "everyone" will recognize - that's always going to be politically charged. I've seen plenty of blacks come out and say "stop being criminals". But since they are "right wing", they don't seem to count.

But there IS a clear leadership on the police side. It saddens me that cops - prettymuch all cops, everywhere - will always back their own, regardless of circumstance. It limits the conversation. The best you'll get from a cop, even when some cop shoots a defenseless dog, is "you don't understand the job".

The above may sound anti-police. it's really not, but I suppose I do expect "more" from them than I do the "community".

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

See i think that there is no one person that can speak for any large group. Cops have different perspectives, just as black people, white people, poor people, etc. do. The more discourse from as many people the better. Because then we avoid the situations where someone says something, and then that youtube clip goes viral and everyone thinks that guy speaks for the entire group.

People have a lot of experiences that they bring to bear. Then again, I don't think dialogue does anything, because this country is scared of frank discussions of anything. The Fourth Estate, empowered rightfully, is actually the most stultifying thing I see in today's society.

I agree. I think that is part of the problem. And i do agree the Fourth Estate can help, but i think that would mean involving as many people and opinions as possible otherwise we end up again with groups being pigeonholed.

I mean, if we can have frank discussions here, why cant folks do so in real life?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

The big difference to me is, there is no real spokesperson for the civilian side that "everyone" will recognize - that's always going to be politically charged. I've seen plenty of blacks come out and say "stop being criminals". But since they are "right wing", they don't seem to count.

But there IS a clear leadership on the police side. It saddens me that cops - prettymuch all cops, everywhere - will always back their own, regardless of circumstance. It limits the conversation. The best you'll get from a cop, even when some cop shoots a defenseless dog, is "you don't understand the job".

The above may sound anti-police. it's really not, but I suppose I do expect "more" from them than I do the "community".

So maybe there needs to be a mediator as opposed to a spokesperson?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

The big difference to me is, there is no real spokesperson for the civilian side that "everyone" will recognize - that's always going to be politically charged. I've seen plenty of blacks come out and say "stop being criminals". But since they are "right wing", they don't seem to count.

But there IS a clear leadership on the police side. It saddens me that cops - prettymuch all cops, everywhere - will always back their own, regardless of circumstance. It limits the conversation. The best you'll get from a cop, even when some cop shoots a defenseless dog, is "you don't understand the job".

The above may sound anti-police. it's really not, but I suppose I do expect "more" from them than I do the "community".

So maybe there needs to be a mediator as opposed to a spokesperson?

How about a mediator from both sides?

I say Al Sharpton and John Rocker.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

Which is why I think it takes leaders to come together. I'm just sure who satisfy and command the respect of both sides enough to make it work. Obama would have been perfect since he is represents both blacks and government, but he is too politicized at this pointment. Anything he does will be instantly torn apart by politicization. There's no MLK out there today.

The big difference to me is, there is no real spokesperson for the civilian side that "everyone" will recognize - that's always going to be politically charged. I've seen plenty of blacks come out and say "stop being criminals". But since they are "right wing", they don't seem to count.

But there IS a clear leadership on the police side. It saddens me that cops - prettymuch all cops, everywhere - will always back their own, regardless of circumstance. It limits the conversation. The best you'll get from a cop, even when some cop shoots a defenseless dog, is "you don't understand the job".

The above may sound anti-police. it's really not, but I suppose I do expect "more" from them than I do the "community".

So maybe there needs to be a mediator as opposed to a spokesperson?

How about a mediator from both sides?

I say Al Sharpton and John Rocker.

anyone but them.

 

[jon_mx]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

I don't think so. If a cop deliberately kills with no justification, no way do other cops support him.

 

[rockaction]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

I don't think so. If a cop deliberately kills with no justification, no way do other cops support him.

You're drinking. I know it. No, man, are you kidding?

 

[uconnalum]

Did the black St. Louis Ram players who wore I Can't Breathe T-Shirts a few weeks back where anything symbolic to support Officer Ramos and Liu.

 

[Boston]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

 

[rct]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

I don't think so. If a cop deliberately kills with no justification, no way do other cops support him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Code_of_Silence

Blue Code of Silence

The Blue Code of Silence (also known as the Blue Shield[1] or Blue Wall[2]) is the idea of an unwritten rule that exists among police officers not to report on a colleague's errors, misconducts, or crimes. If questioned about an incident of misconduct involving another officer (e.g. during the course of an official inquiry), while following the code, the officer being questioned would claim ignorance of another officer's wrongdoing.

 

[joffer]

Did the black St. Louis Ram players who wore I Can't Breathe T-Shirts a few weeks back where anything symbolic to support Officer Ramos and Liu.

maybe next week

 

[joffer]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

I don't think so. If a cop deliberately kills with no justification, no way do other cops support him.

what color is the sky in your world?

 

[StrikeS2k]

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27175556/family-unarmed-man-killed-by-troubled-rocky-ford

 

[rct]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

That chant only lasted about a minute and was not representative of 99% of the protestors.

 

[Christo]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

That chant only lasted about a minute and was not representative of 99% of the protestors.

No true Scotsman?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

How do we move forward on these issues? What is the next step that should happen?

There needs to be dialogue. People need to acknowledge each sides feelings and then there needs to be constructive dialogue to discuss ways to reduce the tension and the underlying issues that got us to this point. Not finger pointing, not placing blame on who caused this incident and that incident.

The two sides are dug in, though.

Someone black is killed, and the entire black community is behind him, regardless of any other circumstances.

Likewise, cops 100% stick together. Total "us against them", in all cases. You will never, ever hear a cop say "yea, that was wrong" in regards to another cop's actions.

I don't think so. If a cop deliberately kills with no justification, no way do other cops support him.

Whose definition are you going to use for "justified"? Can you even name a single police killing that wasn't considered to be "justified" by other cops?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

no. Even if this is legitimate, and i have heard that it was possibly dubbed over, 99.9% of those protesters were not chanting anything violent. All of the people i know who went never heard this. And in the video notice this is a very small group of protesters. If you saw the actual pictures there were way more people there. Again don't pigeonhole an entire group based on a few idiots.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

That chant only lasted about a minute and was not representative of 99% of the protestors.

No true Scotsman?

The original post was a logical fallacy in itself.

 

[General Tso]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

no. Even if this is legitimate, and i have heard that it was possibly dubbed over, 99.9% of those protesters were not chanting anything violent. All of the people i know who went never heard this. And in the video notice this is a very small group of protesters. If you saw the actual pictures there were way more people there. Again don't pigeonhole an entire group based on a few idiots.

LOL!!!! Unbelievable!!! You gonna believe your lying eyes or you gonna believe Pimp??It's an established fact that the protesters in Sharpton's rally chanted this. The videos are all over the internet. It's been reported in numerous major dailies. Take your lies and propaganda somewhere else.

 

[General Tso]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

The rap video Hands Up! featuring rappers Maino and Uncle Murda has gone viral, but its the videos message that has many people up in arms. The video basically encourages people to kill police officers in retribution to what happened to Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The video portrays the recurring image of an actor dressed as a police officer with two guns pointed at his head, and some of the lyrics even encourage that type of behavior.

For Mike Brown and Sean Bell, a cop gotta be killed, the song says.

Rap lyrics are oftentimes anti-law enforcement, but many are enraged by the video actually encouraging people to go about shooting an officer.

So this is now the 3rd or 4th time I have posted in this thread about this video. Guess how many responses? How about ZERO.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

No those are just idiots.

 

[General Tso]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

No those are just idiots.

Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Looks like these protestors got what they wanted with the execution of the two Officers...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/12/21/flashback-al-sharptons-marchers-in-new-york-city-chant-what-do-we-want-dead-cops-n1934308

no. Even if this is legitimate, and i have heard that it was possibly dubbed over, 99.9% of those protesters were not chanting anything violent. All of the people i know who went never heard this. And in the video notice this is a very small group of protesters. If you saw the actual pictures there were way more people there. Again don't pigeonhole an entire group based on a few idiots.

LOL!!!! Unbelievable!!! You gonna believe your lying eyes or you gonna believe Pimp??It's an established fact that the protesters in Sharpton's rally chanted this. The videos are all over the internet. It's been reported in numerous major dailies. Take your lies and propaganda somewhere else.

Im going to believe the many friends of mine who were there at the protest. Not some random youtube link with comments disabled.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

No those are just idiots.

Thank you for at least acknowledging that. It's a small step, but encouraging.

do you really think that all the protesters and supporters of this movement think like the folks in that video?

And BTW i saw that video when it came out and was ashamed. but knew at some point someone would point out that video and make it seem as if we all think like that. The makers of that video are as bad as the few cops that tweeted out threats. Neither are representative of the entire group however.

 

[Billy Bats]

It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.

 

[rockaction]

It's gotten to the point that the wife of a murdered police officer is hoping for coexistence with animals. That's where we are.

God help us all.

What do you mean, Billy? I say that without any sort of anger, I just think I may be missing part of the story that perhaps you could link to.

 

[Henry Ford]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

The rap video Hands Up! featuring rappers Maino and Uncle Murda has gone viral, but its the videos message that has many people up in arms. The video basically encourages people to kill police officers in retribution to what happened to Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The video portrays the recurring image of an actor dressed as a police officer with two guns pointed at his head, and some of the lyrics even encourage that type of behavior.

For Mike Brown and Sean Bell, a cop gotta be killed, the song says.

Rap lyrics are oftentimes anti-law enforcement, but many are enraged by the video actually encouraging people to go about shooting an officer.

So this is now the 3rd or 4th time I have posted in this thread about this video. Guess how many responses? How about ZERO.

To be fair, after your earlier meltdown a lot of people put you on ignore.

 

[belljr]

Has Ice-T chimed in since he wrote the original protest song?

Not schtick

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=13&ved=0CCMQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F1992%2F07%2F29%2Farts%2Fcop-killer-to-be-cut-from-ice-t-album.html&rct=j&q=ice%20t%20cop%20killer&ei=p02XVK7lLPLksATxnIHADA&usg=AFQjCNGKiXVnSJDVfEk8eefeIoloTfVH1w&bvm=bv.82001339,d.cWc

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Hey Pimp, was this dubbed too? http://hw-mobile.worldstarhiphop.com/u/vid/2014/12/7f79b7f_mobile.mp4

The rap video Hands Up! featuring rappers Maino and Uncle Murda has gone viral, but its the videos message that has many people up in arms. The video basically encourages people to kill police officers in retribution to what happened to Michael Brown and Eric Garner. The video portrays the recurring image of an actor dressed as a police officer with two guns pointed at his head, and some of the lyrics even encourage that type of behavior.

For Mike Brown and Sean Bell, a cop gotta be killed, the song says.

Rap lyrics are oftentimes anti-law enforcement, but many are enraged by the video actually encouraging people to go about shooting an officer.

So this is now the 3rd or 4th time I have posted in this thread about this video. Guess how many responses? How about ZERO.

to be fair, most of the stuff that goes viral on worldstar is because its awful. Its like watching a trainwreck. Most people i know hate that site.

 

[greenroom]

How would a saber-rattling conservative mayor have prevented these two deaths?

I don't think anyone's saying he could have prevented them.

"Blood on his hands"

Blood on his hands means he has some level of responsibility for the killings. You could still have contributed to the killings without having been capable of preventing them.

The Mayor bears zero responsibility for the killings. Holy Cow, The stupid criminal bears all of the responsibility.

We aren't talking about stealing lunch boxes here.

Doesn't change the fact the Mayor bears zero responsibility for this.

So he can support the protestors aaanticop rhetoric and not be held accountable?

So by that logic. If the President was shot, Republicans would be held accountable? Since they have done nothing but disrespect him and the position of the President of the United States?

I don't think they should, just like I don't think the Mayor or Obama is responsible for killing these cops. But what is funny how everyone is spinning to at this point its President Obama's fault just like with the rising gas prices.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Has Ice-T chimed in since he wrote the original protest song?

Not schtick

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=13&ved=0CCMQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F1992%2F07%2F29%2Farts%2Fcop-killer-to-be-cut-from-ice-t-album.html&rct=j&q=ice%20t%20cop%20killer&ei=p02XVK7lLPLksATxnIHADA&usg=AFQjCNGKiXVnSJDVfEk8eefeIoloTfVH1w&bvm=bv.82001339,d.cWc

Ice-T has retroactive blood on his hands.