shining path
:prettyplease:
The Sahara was on the south freaking pole then. I get a do-over.
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Creation vs. Evolution (1 Viewer)
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flufhed
Footballguy
Just read all of these conterarguments, and they are pretty good.
Better than anything Larry's seminar is putting out, anyway. More often than not, the counterargument ends up not only refuting the creationist argument, but ends up proving that the earth cannot be less than 10,000 years old. Most of them are ridiculous on their face (see Niagra Falls, Delta, Sahara Desert - why would the age of these specific areas of the earth act as an age limit on the entire earth?).
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
What I found nice is that the wording of the arguments was exactly the same as in Larry's posts. So there's no ambiguity there - real science took the exact creation science arguments Larry found and went to town on them.God bless science.Just read all of these conterarguments, and they are pretty good.
Or maybe Thor bless science.
The Theory of Evolution makes no statement about the rotation of the earth. The Theory of Evolution talks only of species diversification through gene mutation and selection.And yes, I WILL keep harping at you about this until you start getting it right. Imagine if I kept talking about Christianity as if Moses was the son of God and that Tuesday was the sabbath. Pretty dumb, right? Well that's what you're doing.
Outside Contain
Footballguy
Surprisingly common mistake... perhaps they are NOT teaching evolution in schools anymore.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I do get it right, you realize that it is taught as if Evolution = abiogenesis, big bang, and evolution, right? I mean, seriously, I know the difference...I just think its funny that you know what I mean for about 10 pages every time we discuss this lol
What class would talk about both the big bang and evolutionary theory?
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
a lot of them... anything before 9th grade for one...they'd also tell little Johnny in first grade that Chrsitianity is a lie and those who believe in Creation are dumb... well, in some places they do, at least... (unless no one uses those textbooks that are copywrited in the last few years)
Outside Contain
Footballguy
Threw it down Mimer's well and became wiser than any of the Asar...No? Well you disprove it then!
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
:rotflmao: Science textbooks? In first grade?First graders struggle just to read.Your fear of this supposed anti-Christianity movement is silly.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
the first grade thing was kinda not serious, although they did have 1st grade teachers guides telling teachers to say that stuff...they also had textbooks for older kids that had the stuff written down in them....:rotflmao: Science textbooks? In first grade?First graders struggle just to read.Your fear of this supposed anti-Christianity movement is silly.
ratpfink
This looks like a job for You-Know and Who!
Which specific teacher guides and textbooks teach that Christianity is a lie and Creationists are dumb?the first grade thing was kinda not serious, although they did have 1st grade teachers guides telling teachers to say that stuff...they also had textbooks for older kids that had the stuff written down in them....:rotflmao: Science textbooks? In first grade?First graders struggle just to read.Your fear of this supposed anti-Christianity movement is silly.
Outside Contain
Footballguy
Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
Um, no. You are incorrect again sir. I went to two different high schools and had one of the crappiest science teachers on the face of the planet at high school #2 and even there this was not taught. Evolution is taught as how man and apes evolved from a common ancestor during biology class. The big bang theory is taught in an entirely different class as to how the universe began in an entirely different class. Exactly what sort of school did you go to, Larry, that you were able to achieve solid ACT scores despite not having elementary level knowledge of geology, chemistry, physics, astronomy, biology, etc. Were you home taught or did you attend a Christian private school that follows New-Earth principles? The worst schools in the country taught these subjects well beyond the knowledge that you are showing us in these subjects. You are not going to be able to defend yourself in a debate if you lack the least bit of knowledge of your opposition's positions and views.
CowboysFromHell
Footballguy
VS.
So, in response to your OPENING post on this thread, answer me this: were ALL of the salt-water-beetles and fish and other aquatic-animals destroyed and fossilized in the ocean during the "flood" or were they somehow crammed into the "ark"?...this is my third or fourth try at trying to get a response to this question. Not only has Larry not responded, but nobody from the long list of his opposition has even acknowledged this question. Am I missing something, or is this one of many ways to catch him in a contradiction?
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Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Godzilla looked kinda like T-Rex and he breathed fire. This has been documented in several Soho films.:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: where the #### was I on this day.
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CrossEyed
Guest
You are wrong. A lot of places took away Good Friday when they added Martin Luther King Day. And Spring breaks have nothing to do with Easter since the breaks are typically the same time each year and Easter can be anywhere from late March to late April.
shining path
:prettyplease:
I'm pretty sure I got Easter off as a kid. Maybe it's changed.
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CrossEyed
Guest
Only if your school district holds classes on Sunday.
shining path
:prettyplease:
Touche'. I meant that we got time off around Easter.
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
:rotflmao: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dfrank1/BYS/...oda_movie2.htmlThis thread is strangely reminiscent of the Blue Yoda thread from theForce.net's message boards.
ElGatoLoco
Footballguy
Nope. It hasn't changed. In all the school systems my sister and mother worked for in the past ... let me think ... twenty-five years they have had Good Friday and Easter (edit: of course b/c its on Sunday) off, and they have also coordinated Spring Break with the Easter holiday when possible.Most states have a mandatory number of days the kids have to be in school. I can see a school system doing as CE pointed out too. Add one day off (especially when it is mandated) and take away another as opposed to adding an extra day at the end of the year or something. That would kind of suck though. In Illinois, where my sister has worked, they get Pulaski day off!
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RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Agreed - I never saw this before.Please don't stop - Smoo was just getting on a roll
bueno
In a class by himself
It was six men of IndostanTo learning much inclined,Who went to see the Elephant~(Though all of them were blind),That each by observation~Might satisfy his mind.The First approached the Elephant,And happening to fallAgainst his broad and sturdy side, ~ At once began to bawl:"God bless me! but the Elephant ~ Is very like a wall!"The Second, feeling of the tusk, Cried, "Ho! what have we here?So very round and smooth and sharp? ~ To me 'tis mighty clearThis wonder of an Elephant ~ Is very like a spear!"The Third approached the animal,And happening to takeThe squirming trunk within his hands, ~ Thus boldly up and spake:"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant ~ Is very like a snake!"The Fourth reached out an eager hand, And felt about the knee."What most this wondrous beast is like ~ Is mighty plain," quoth her;"'Tis clear enough the Elephant ~ Is very like a tree!"The Fifth who chanced to touch the ear,Said: "E'en the blindest manCan tell what this resembles most; ~ Deny the fact who can,This marvel of an Elephant ~ Is very like a fan!"The Sixth no sooner had begun About the beast to grope, Than, seizing on the swinging tail ~ That fell within his scope,"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant ~ Is very like a rope!And so these men of Indostan Disputed loud and long,Each in his own opinion ~ Exceeding stiff and strong, Though each was partly in the right ~ And all were in the wrong!MoralSo oft in theologic wars,The disputants, I ween,Rail on in utter ignoranceOf what each other mean,And prate about an Elephant Not one of them has seen!-John Godfrey Saxe
oso diablo
Footballguy
Interesting, Bueno. I've heard that elephant story my whole life, and not once has it come capped with the moral of theological disputes (but that's probably because i went to public schools). Kinda like the teaching of Thanksgiving or Christmas these days.I like it; thanks for posting.
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Can we get this pinned?
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
I liked it better when this poem was about an armadillo.
Noodlefish
Bloomin' brilliant...
This stuff is priceless.Makes me realise that I wasted most of my life studying, when I should have been reading the boards...
Noodlefish
Bloomin' brilliant...
How do I go about returning my degree?Can I just write to the university and tell them I'd like NOT to have a Biological Sciences (Zoology) degree anymore, as I've realised the error in my ways?Maybe I can get it transmuted to a Theoretical-heretical psuedo-Scientific meta-Studies degree or something?
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Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Are you guys denying that Godzilla could breathe fire?
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
holy #### I missed this. :rotflmao:
Kleck
Footballguy
Dear Larry,Please cut it out. I'm guessing that you might find one piece of anecdotal evidence to back up that post. Maybe one. And that's pushing it. You're blanket statement here doesn't apply to more than 99% of classrooms across the country. You're not going to be respected here because of stuff like this. More likely to be mocked and ridiculed.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Why does this thread exist, and how the hell does it have 25 pages? Science has routinely bent over religion and made it it's ##### for thousands of years. When are you guys gonna finally say "No mas! No mas!"?
