Cutler / Leinart / Young -- Then and now (1 Viewer)

[candymanvandyfan]

4 questions.

 

[whitem0nkey]

I dont know if this is cause im drunk, but it seems like a bad Leinart sucks and

Cutler rules poll.

what is the fantasy value of this thread?

 

[gandalas]

Fairly predictable answers, at least from me:

Leinart first, Cutler now.

Cutler the best stats in 2010.

Young the most wins in 2010 (CJ on his team helps a bit!)

Leinart out of the league first.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I just traded cutler for gore so I can pair him with ray rice and peterson.

 

[Drink G2]

Fairly predictable answers, at least from me:Leinart first, Cutler now.Cutler the best stats in 2010.Young the most wins in 2010 (CJ on his team helps a bit!)Leinart out of the league first.

Same except the last qustion, I think Cutler will be gone first. Idk why...kid just rubs me wrong.

 

[LHUCKS]

The Shark Pool is so comically wrong on Leinart it actually brings me joy to see these poll results.

Guppy central.

 

[gandalas]

I actually like Leinart, but I like Cutler to have more fantasy success...is that so wrong?

 

[MAC_32]

Cutler then...undecided between Young and Cutler now.

Cutler's definitely having the best 2010 fantasy season.

Question 3 is a stupid one, teams win games not QB's.

Probably Leinart, but he's the type that could linger around as a backup for a while a la David Carr. I will say he's the first to lose a starting job though.

 

[cr8f]

I just traded cutler for gore so I can pair him with ray rice and peterson.

I picked up Cutler as a RFA because his owner didn't match about 14 bucks(don't remember but it wasn't a lot). I too have Rice but only Shone Greene and Pierre Thomas to go with him.Who are your QB's? I would have kept Cutler I think with those backs? Is it PPR?

 

[cr8f]

I actually like Leinart, but I like Cutler to have more fantasy success...is that so wrong?

Of course not. I'm not sure Leinart can make it in the NFL. One person said Cutler will be out of the league first?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

4 Years of Quarterback Statistics in various categories for Cutler / Leinart / Young.

Games started

Cutler 53

Young 39

Leinart 17

Start %

Cutler 83%

Young 61%

Leinart 27%

Wins

Young 26

Cutler 24

Leinart 7

Longest Games Started Streak

Cutler 53

Young 18

Leinart 11

Completions

Cutler 1098

Young 596

Leinart 340

Completion %

Cutler 61.9

Young 57.6

Leinart 57.1

Passing Yards

Cutler 12690

Young 6843

Leinart 3893

Passing touchdowns

Cutler 81

Young 32

Leinart 14

TD %

Cutler 4.6

Young 3.1

Leinart 2.4

Interception Percentage

Leinart 3.4

Cutler 3.5

Young 3.8

Interceptions

Leinart 20

Young 39

Cutler 63

Yards/attempt

Cutler 7.1

Young 6.6

Leinart 6.5

TD/INT Ratio

Cutler 1.29

Young 0.82

Leinart 0.7

Rushing Yards

Young 1255

Cutler 596

Leinart 90

Rushing Touchdowns

Young 12

Cutler 4

Leinart 2

 

[candymanvandyfan]

LHUCKS, what kind of numbers are you expecting from Leinart in the 2010 season?

Thanks.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I just traded cutler for gore so I can pair him with ray rice and peterson.

What other trades have you made recently ....I love staying up to date on YOUR FF team

 

[FUBAR]

I'm indecisive I guess but...

On Draft Day 2006, which of these three quarterbacks did you think was the best of the three? Who do you think is the best of the three now?

I was torn between Leinart and VY. Had thought Leinart was the safe choice but VY intrigued me and I thought his upside was off the charts as far as his value to a team, not his stats. Now, I think VY is doing what he's capable of and he means a lot to his team but Cutler is the better pure QB.

Which player will have the best fantasy year in 2010? (FBG scoring)

I'm not sure about FBG scoring but if it's 4 pts per TD passing, 6 rushing, with a decent negative for INTs, I'll go VY. Otherwise it's Cutler.

Which player will have the most wins in the 2010 season?

VY, he'll win the Super Bowl*

Which player will be out of the league first?

Voted Leinart but rethinking it I'm leaning VY.* - barring long term holdout or injury to CJ.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

I remember there being more support for Young on Draft Day in 2006 than is being reflected in this poll, but it's interesting how many people are still onboard the Leinart train.

According to his projections, Maurile Tremblay is predicting Leinart to have 260 more yards passing than Cutler, have more completions than Cutler, and more fantasy points than Cutler and Young in the 2010 season, so clearly there are smart people who think a breakout year is coming. Tremblay's calling for Leinart to have 8 more touchdowns THIS YEAR than he has had in his career to date.

LHUCKS, too, is obviously a true believer.

Maybe Leinart is just a late bloomer (like Joe Theismann) who will show the world what he really has in 2010.

 

[cr8f]

I remember there being more support for Young on Draft Day in 2006 than is being reflected in this poll, but it's interesting how many people are still onboard the Leinart train.

According to his projections, Maurile Tremblay is predicting Leinart to have 260 more yards passing than Cutler, have more completions than Cutler, and more fantasy points than Cutler and Young in the 2010 season, so clearly there are smart people who think a breakout year is coming. Tremblay's calling for Leinart to have 8 more touchdowns THIS YEAR than he has had in his career to date.

LHUCKS, too, is obviously a true believer.

Maybe Leinart is just a late bloomer (like Joe Theismann) who will show the world what he really has in 2010.

Warner's influence may show in his play this year maybe you are right.

Or maybe not.

 

[FUBAR]

Maybe Leinart is just a late bloomer (like Joe Theismann) who will show the world what he really has in 2010.

To be fair, his play wasn't that bad for a rookie or 2nd year player and he didn't get the long leash some QBs had.

 

[cr8f]

At USC he had pinpoint accuracy in title game against Texas...

CBSSports.com notes that according to Cardinals quarterbacks coach Chris Miller, QB Matt Leinart looked good during the team's mid-May OTA. Miller said Leinart "threw maybe one poor ball in three days" of work and has done some things to earn the trust and respect of his teammates. They are also working on the details of his game. "We're working on pinpoint accuracy -- throwing the ball from the waist to the face mask, and he's getting there," Miller said, adding that Leinart got off to a good start.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

At USC he had pinpoint accuracy in title game against Texas...CBSSports.com notes that according to Cardinals quarterbacks coach Chris Miller, QB Matt Leinart looked good during the team's mid-May OTA. Miller said Leinart "threw maybe one poor ball in three days" of work and has done some things to earn the trust and respect of his teammates. They are also working on the details of his game. "We're working on pinpoint accuracy -- throwing the ball from the waist to the face mask, and he's getting there," Miller said, adding that Leinart got off to a good start.

I haven't "taken a chance" on Leinart in any prior year draft, even in last rounds when he was still available, but you have to think this is the "or get off the pot" year for him. Do you think Arizona will give him a season to see what he can do, and in that offense, it could turn up some stats? There's no way I would take him at QB12 where Maurile has him, but perhaps I would consider him this year somewhere in the QB20s, pairing with a late round pickup of Anderson. I , for one, would not be surprised to see Anderson win the job at some point. Somebody's going to need to throw the ball out there.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

2006 QB draft class might find itself back in the saddle this week.

Updated numbers on these three.

Draft Position

Young 3

Leinart 10

Cutler 11

Years as team's primary starter

Cutler 5

Young 4

Leinart 1

# of different NFL teams played for

Cutler 2

Young 2

Leinart 2

Games started

Cutler 77

Young 47

Leinart 17

Start %

Cutler 86.5%

Young 52.8%

Leinart 18%

Wins

Cutler 40

Young 30

Leinart 7

Completions

Cutler 1,523

Young 689

Leinart 340

Completion %

Cutler 61.2

Young 57.9

Leinart 57.1

Passing Yards

Cutler 17,997

Young 8,098

Leinart 3,893

Passing touchdowns

Cutler 115

Young 42

Leinart 14

TD %

Cutler 4.6

Young 3.5

Leinart 2.4

Interception Percentage

Leinart 3.4

Cutler 3.4

Young 3.6

Yards/attempt

Cutler 7.2

Young 6.8

Leinart 6.5

TD/INT Ratio

Cutler 1.35

Young 0.98

Leinart 0.7

Rushing Yards

Young 1382

Cutler 873

Leinart 89

Rushing Touchdowns

Young 12

Cutler 5

Leinart 2

Passing Yards per Game

Cutler 233.7

Young 144.7

Leinart 129.8

Passer rating

Cutler 84.3

Young 75.3

Leinart 70.8

 

[Joe Summer]

Current starting QBs from that draft:

1. Cutler

2. Tarvaris Jackson

And.....that's it. (Leinart will be #3.)

 

[Joe Summer]

Another interesting thing about the 2006 draft is that every single quarterback was no longer with the team that drafted them 5 years later.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Tough year for all of them.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The Shark Pool is so comically wrong on Leinart it actually brings me joy to see these poll results. Guppy central.

Update?

 

[candymanvandyfan]

I am surprised Young didn't stick on that packers team. I expect he'll be back after the first week.

 

[DoubleG]

Current starting QBs from that draft: 1. Cutler 2. Tarvaris Jackson And.....that's it. (Leinart will be #3.)

...and then there was 1....