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I don't know the exact date, but I know they were taken before he was diagnosed because people were talking about them on Bronco boards before he was diagnosed.
I've read and heard from friends that he still frequents the bars and drinks heavily, even after being diagnosed. So, I guess it doesn't matter when the pictures were taken.
Instead of the "heard from friends" posts and other urban legends (kicked out of Country Club) it would be refreshing to have a link that documents this. Hard to believe there is not one person in one bar (even anonomously) who will go on the record about this. Go ahead devalue him on rumors - I will work out trades for him based on that.
Is it just a rumor that he likes to drink? Have you never heard anything or seen anything on that before? 3 pictures of him, in a bar, looking tanked doesn't classify as "one person in one bar (even anonomously) who will go on the record about this"?He has a history of being a party-er. I thought that was common knowledge. I'm sure we could find links and documentation. (the pictures for one) So, I'd say that is "on record"
Everybody with that has a picture taken with their eyes closed is drunk, I guess, according to you.
Yes, he was caught off guard blinking in a bar on all 3 pics. Not Drinking... that was just a typo... it was blinking... He wouldn't be in a bar to drink... Not Jay Cutler...Go back and look at the first picture...
If that is true, it just shows once again what a big baby Belichick is. Oh, it's okay for the Patriots to nab free agents from other teams, but but it is not okay for other teams to grab their free agents. Typical Belichick, really.
I agree with your opinion of Belichick.But I think I'd be pissed if one of my employees left and took other employees with him.
Earlier, I followed the post linking the article and the drinking pictures with a comment on Cutler having some growing up to do. Which I really believe. If he's diabetic and he's still out drinking when his job is based on physical ability then he needs to straighten out his priorities. MANY athletes need this, not just Cutler.. Many athletes are making bad decisions, but then again they aren't all diabetic. Most of us try to clean up our acts when real life starts after College or High school. I still drink from time to time, but I don't get hammered, I don't drink often, and I don't drink and drive. I've had my fair share of run ins growing up. Fights, arrests, mind altering substances. That's all behind me. Time to be a big boy now.I understand the kid is just 25. That alone would suggest he has growing up to do. But he's in the big leagues now, under scrutiny of millions and obligated to a MAJOR corporation under contract. If he's still running around, getting drunk, and partying after being diagnosed with typeII diabetes. That is pretty irresponsible and tells alot about his character and ability to make good decisions.Debilities is a dangerous disease. And if you don't take care of yourself properly football will be the least of your worries.
Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious. Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is. Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.
If anybody can do it is Carolina Hustler. Inside sources at bars players frequent and can judge the exact degree of sobriety by viewing photos.massraider said:Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.Carolina Hustler said:
But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious.
Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is.
Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.
The more hilarious part is... Last time I blinked in a photo, when the photo developed I was some how magically superimposed into a bar scene with alcohol in both hands too.massraider said:Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious. Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is. Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.Carolina Hustler said:
Doesn't matter how drunk he is. With TypeII diabetes, he isn't supposed to be drinking at all... That goes along with a very restrictive diet he should be following also.I looked up some dates for the photos... Link #1 - photo was taken in march of 08Link #2 - couldn't find date on this one (Photo by Deadspin) Link #3 - was on September 19th 2006, there was actually 4 pics total taken on that night of Jay with drinks in his hands and showing signs of consumption... err I mean blinking .... (Photos by kissing suzy kolber)And I found 3 other "Blinking/Drinking" photos of Cutler. One from '06' and two from '07'
Before you continue to spew fallacies as fact:1. Cutler has Type I Diabetes (not type II)The more hilarious part is... Last time I blinked in a photo, when the photo developed I was some how magically superimposed into a bar scene with alcohol in both hands too.massraider said:Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.Carolina Hustler said:
But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious.
Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is.
Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.
I looked up some dates for the photos...
Link #1 - photo was taken in march of 08
Link #2 - couldn't find date on this one (Photo by Deadspin)
Link #3 - was on September 19th 2006, there was actually 4 pics total taken on that night of Jay with drinks in his hands and showing signs of consumption... err I mean blinking .... (Photos by kissing suzy kolber)
And I found 3 other "Blinking/Drinking" photos of Cutler. One from '06' and two from '07'
He didn't take him with him. He was a free agent. Free agents are allowed to sign with anyone. If NE valued Gaffney so much, they should have resigned him.Carolina Hustler said:
Before you continue to spew fallacies as fact:1. Cutler has Type I Diabetes (not type II)The more hilarious part is... Last time I blinked in a photo, when the photo developed I was some how magically superimposed into a bar scene with alcohol in both hands too.massraider said:Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.Carolina Hustler said:
But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious.
Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is.
Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.
I looked up some dates for the photos...
Link #1 - photo was taken in march of 08
Link #2 - couldn't find date on this one (Photo by Deadspin)
Link #3 - was on September 19th 2006, there was actually 4 pics total taken on that night of Jay with drinks in his hands and showing signs of consumption... err I mean blinking .... (Photos by kissing suzy kolber)
And I found 3 other "Blinking/Drinking" photos of Cutler. One from '06' and two from '07'
2. Type I Diabetics are allowed to drink alcohol. Not sure who instructed you that they aren't supposed to be drinking at all, but that is simply not true. It should definitely be in moderation and can put him at risk for problems down the road in his life if it's overdone, but to say "he isn't supposed to be drinking at all" is just over the top and simply not true.
3. Some diabetics do NOT need to be on a "very restrictive diet". Yes, there are guidelines that need to be followed and he needs to vigilant in monitoring his disease, but that does not necessarily include a "very restrictive diet".
You should at least do others the courtesy of checking up on stuff you're going to say and post with such authority when it's completely false and misleading.
Seriously, that was major ownage.
Whatever... So the argument has gone from he's not drinking... He's blinking... To he's drinking but it'd type 1 Diabetes instead of type 2...Does anyone here know that type 1 is more lethal than type 2?Or that it is suggested that you don't drink... But if you do... No more than 2 in a day? And that only under the advisment of your physician and if you are in complete control of your blood sugar.Him having type1 is actually worse for the drinking argument then type 2...And unless you've been close to anyone who has Diabetes you may think Alcohol is ok... It's not...
Dude, just stop. You keep changing your argument every time your previous one gets blown apart, and it is only making you look, well, not smart. Just cut your losses now and stick to other threads.
Type1 instead of Type2 only makes my argument stronger... I really don't see you adding anything "smart" yourself... Come in and attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect... I haven't attacked you... Back off...Dude, just stop. You keep changing your argument every time your previous one gets blown apart, and it is only making you look, well, not smart. Just cut your losses now and stick to other threads.
It's not an argument. It's about you coming on here and posting as if some authority and you have your facts COMPLETELY wrong. Just because you just went back and googled some information after the fact doesn't excuse your previous posts. Just stop already. And yes, I know the differences between type 1 diabetes and type 2. Much more than you, of that I'm certain. Whether or not it's better or worse for him is irrelevant. Your posting that he shouldn't be drinking is presumptuous at best and just flat out wrong at worst. So unless Jay Cutler is under your direct medical care, just stop. Stick to things you're more familiar with like, I don't know, "mop up time".
No, it doesn't make your argument stronger. It weakens it because it shows you have no problems posting something that is untrue without checking it up. It calls into question ANYTHING you post. It's happened on more than one occasion now. It would be more helpful if you said "you're right, I was wrong and I should have checked it" instead of "it makes me even more right". You don't see this?Type1 instead of Type2 only makes my argument stronger... I really don't see you adding anything "smart" yourself...Dude, just stop. You keep changing your argument every time your previous one gets blown apart, and it is only making you look, well, not smart. Just cut your losses now and stick to other threads.
Come in and attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect... I haven't attacked you... Back off...
Type1 instead of Type2 only makes my argument stronger... I really don't see you adding anything "smart" yourself... Come in and attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect... I haven't attacked you... Back off...Dude, just stop. You keep changing your argument every time your previous one gets blown apart, and it is only making you look, well, not smart. Just cut your losses now and stick to other threads.
I came to the realization a week or ago that posting in these Cutler threads is useless, but feel free to read through this and the other Cutler thread to see my comments on every thing (early in both threads). No one's opinion is gonna change, so it is pissing into the wind. I am just amused by how you keep changing your tune every time you lose an argument. BTW, your, "attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect," comment is symbolic of why this discussion is pointless. No one thinks Cutler is perfect. All of us who think he is a very good QB have admitted that he is still a flawed player, and most of us agree that he hasn't handled this whole situation well, but some of you are so over the top with your criticism of him, that you interpret any defense of him as it coming from fan boys who think he is perfect. That is why I have no interest in participating in this discussion anymore.
Obviously I'm going to go back and Google what type of diabetic he is since I assumed wrong... Adults don't typically get diagnosed with Juvenile diabetes.. Excuse me for assuming he would have had what is more prevalent in adults (Type2)Have you lived with someone who had diabetes? Have you lost anyone close to kidney and/or liver failure due to this disease? Have you ever seen someone go into a Diabetic comma or seizure? Don't pretend like it's not a big deal... It is... People die from it every day.. I've lived through it. 2 of my friends, my secretary, my cousin, my Uncle, and a very close family friend.
My contention is that Jay has a lot of growing up to do and he shouldn't be drinking. Because he has type1 instead of type2, I've lost an argument and I'm actually wrong?Wake up...Type1 instead of Type2 only makes my argument stronger... I really don't see you adding anything "smart" yourself...Dude, just stop. You keep changing your argument every time your previous one gets blown apart, and it is only making you look, well, not smart. Just cut your losses now and stick to other threads.
Come in and attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect... I haven't attacked you... Back off...
BTW, your, "attack anyone who thinks Jay isn't perfect," comment is symbolic of why this discussion is pointless. No one thinks Cutler is perfect. All of us who think he is a very good QB have admitted that he is still a flawed player, and most of us agree that he hasn't handled this whole situation well, but some of you are so over the top with your criticism of him, that you interpret any defense of him as it coming from fan boys who think he is perfect. That is why I have no interest in participating in this discussion anymore.
no one cares if he drinksi have heard that a few nfl players enjoy alcohol on occasion
Are you a doctor? Or his doctor?
Yes, because your assumptions(which you admitted to) have led to you making incorrect conclusions.
I bet his doctor cares, his coaches, his trainers, his loved ones....Not all NFL players have diabetes, that's the difference.The guy has been labeled as a drinker/party-er for a reason. Not just because he "enjoys alcohol on occasion"
The conclusion was indeed correct..I've had plenty of experience with the disease. I don't need to be a doctor.
If Jay keeps drinking too much, he's going to end up causing someone at a bar some "mop up time". Maybe that's what Hustler means?
LOL, thats exactly what I meant... See how everything comes around full circle. :X
gianmarco clearly demonstrated that your conclusion was incorrect. And what experience? Knowing a few people who have had the disease? Pfft. I have known people who have had cancer, but that doesn't qualify me as being any kind of expert or authority on the subject. HTH.
gianmarco only demonstrated that Cutler has type1 instead of type2. Which is worse.Everyone I've known that has "Had" the disease either still has it and/or is dead. It's an incurable disease.
And what experience? Knowing a few people who have had the disease? Pfft. I have known people who have had cancer, but that doesn't qualify me as being any kind of expert or authority on the subject. HTH.
Seriously, will you stop? This is NOT true.Also, the fact that he is Type I is the reason he requires insulin.gianmarco only demonstrated that Cutler has type1 instead of type2. Which is worse.And actually you aren't supose to drink if you're diabetic. But those who drink are warned to not have more than 2 a day. The fact that he needs insulin would say that his cause isn't the mild variety.gianmarco clearly demonstrated that your conclusion was incorrect.
And what experience? Knowing a few people who have had the disease? Pfft. I have known people who have had cancer, but that doesn't qualify me as being any kind of expert or authority on the subject. HTH.
What Myths? You are wrong my friend.Facts are facts...The guy has Diabetes (Type1)The guy likes to DrinkGuys with Diabetes shouldn't drinkA mild case of diabetes would be type2 and could be controlled by proper diet and exercise. Type1 is more serious and requires insulin.You can ask a doctor about any of it.....
Ask a doctor, especially for a guy with type1
Very clever... I see how you did that..First you started with an absurd statement that everyone knows isn't true, insinuating that everything I said isn't true. And then followed it with an antagonistic/sarcastic statement intended to wound my ego..Wow, nice work...If you all must know, I ran into Jay Cutler's doctor about ten minutes ago, and he told me that Cutler is allowed to drink alcohol. See: I can make up bull #### and try to pass it off as fact, too!
Clown School
we have no idea if his doctors, trainers, or loved ones give a flying rats ###and quite frankly, it is not at all relevant for this forum, so again, take it to the no one cares forum please
I don't need to ask a doctor. Please find me one link that states Type I diabetics are not allowed to drink or "shouldn't" drink.Ask a doctor, especially for a guy with type1
4. Cutler announced his diagnoses in May of 2008, before the pictures were taken. So, by posting dates of the pics, Carolina Hustler has not been able to prove that Cutler is knowlingly drinking w/ diabetes.Before you continue to spew fallacies as fact:1. Cutler has Type I Diabetes (not type II)The more hilarious part is... Last time I blinked in a photo, when the photo developed I was some how magically superimposed into a bar scene with alcohol in both hands too.massraider said:Maybe there were 60 pictures taken, and maybe he blinked in these three. That's a pretty good percentage, actually.I love this story, and hope it doesn't go away, because that can only be bad for the Broncos.Carolina Hustler said:
But some of the arguments we have heard from the anti-Cutler crowd border on hilarious.
Let's see, we are now dissecting photos taken at an indeterminate time (But let's assume it was after he was diagnosed, right?), trying to determine exactly how drunk he is.
Too bad we don't have a few more pics, maybe you could tell us his blood/alcohol content.
I looked up some dates for the photos...
Link #1 - photo was taken in march of 08
Link #2 - couldn't find date on this one (Photo by Deadspin)
Link #3 - was on September 19th 2006, there was actually 4 pics total taken on that night of Jay with drinks in his hands and showing signs of consumption... err I mean blinking .... (Photos by kissing suzy kolber)
And I found 3 other "Blinking/Drinking" photos of Cutler. One from '06' and two from '07'
2. Type I Diabetics are allowed to drink alcohol. Not sure who instructed you that they aren't supposed to be drinking at all, but that is simply not true. It should definitely be in moderation and can put him at risk for problems down the road in his life if it's overdone, but to say "he isn't supposed to be drinking at all" is just over the top and simply not true.
3. Some diabetics do NOT need to be on a "very restrictive diet". Yes, there are guidelines that need to be followed and he needs to vigilant in monitoring his disease, but that does not necessarily include a "very restrictive diet".
You should at least do others the courtesy of checking up on stuff you're going to say and post with such authority when it's completely false and misleading.
Speak for yourself. This whole thread is useless anyways...But talking about Jay Cutler and his misgivings is part of it. I have just as much right to post in here as you do. If you don't want to hear about his misgivings then avoid any and all Cutler threads until the season starts because everyone I've seen is full of debate over McDaniels and Cutler.. wrong/vs./right.. it's here.. deal with it.
