Dallas punches New England in the mouth (1 Viewer)

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[MDSkinner]

Last year the Cowboys were 9-7. Nice to see you guys keep living in the past. Oh and yes the Steelers and Colts would both expose the Cowboys the same way the Pats just did. Plain and simple...they're just better teams.

This is an easy thing to say, since the Cowboys don't play the Steelers or the Colts. I would not suggest that either of those teams would "expose" the Cowboys, but I do expect that they would "beat" them.

Fair enough. My only point is that in my opinion the top 3 or 4 teams in the league are all in the AFC this year. Bringing up the Cowboys upset win against the Colts last year means absolutely nothing for this year.

I hate the Cowboys, by the way.I just think they are a solid team. They played a strong game against the Pats up until the end. The Pats are CLEARLY the better team. The Cowboys would compete with the top of the AFC though, I do believe that (again easy to say since they don't play them).

 

[twitch]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

 

[Brutis]

The last MNF game was a heck of a game to watch.Bottom line, however, is that the best team in the NFC severely struggled against a very average AFC team. NE wins this game easily, IMO. The Cowboys are the 5th best team in the league - at best.

So does that mean the Cards are the 3rd best team in the league because they beat the Steelers who a majority think are the 3rd best team in the AFC? What now im confused because you said was the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC?

I'll break it down for you and {Syrup}....NEINDPITTSDDAL (slightly edged by SD)On any given weekend, a team can play poorly (see last week's MNF implosion by Dallas). That doesn't mean that any team that beats these 5 are better overall. IMO, Dallas would be exposed by any of the teams above them on this list. We'll see this Sunday.

Would Pitt expose Dallas the same way they exposed the Cardinals? Most overrated team in football, with the most overrated quarterback.edit to add...would Indy expose Dallas the same way they did last year?These comments are ridiculous.

Last year the Cowboys were 9-7. Nice to see you guys keep living in the past. Oh and yes the Steelers and Colts would both expose the Cowboys the same way the Pats just did. Plain and simple...they're just better teams.

The Dallas hate is so strong people are talking out their a#$. Colts didnt expose anything last year in Dallas if i recall. Steelers? they cant even handle the Cards and Big Ben is no Brady. They dont have the wide open game plan and WR's to execute that type of game on Dallas. Steelers are a running team and Dallas can handle that. No NFC team is capable right now of beating the Pats so to say Dallas is overrated because they lost to them is ridiculous. How many drive stalling penalties did dallas have yesterday? I dont know how many times I saw a nice play for a first down wiped out for a penalty that now made it 3rd and long. They had over 100 yards in penalties, with that type of game im suprised they even had the lead in the 3rd quarter.

There you go again talking about last year.

Since that is the last time the Cowboys and Colts played against eachother thats what i have to go on.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The last MNF game was a heck of a game to watch.Bottom line, however, is that the best team in the NFC severely struggled against a very average AFC team. NE wins this game easily, IMO. The Cowboys are the 5th best team in the league - at best.

So does that mean the Cards are the 3rd best team in the league because they beat the Steelers who a majority think are the 3rd best team in the AFC? What now im confused because you said was the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC?

I'll break it down for you and {Syrup}....NEINDPITTSDDAL (slightly edged by SD)On any given weekend, a team can play poorly (see last week's MNF implosion by Dallas). That doesn't mean that any team that beats these 5 are better overall. IMO, Dallas would be exposed by any of the teams above them on this list. We'll see this Sunday.

Would Pitt expose Dallas the same way they exposed the Cardinals? Most overrated team in football, with the most overrated quarterback.edit to add...would Indy expose Dallas the same way they did last year?These comments are ridiculous.

Last year the Cowboys were 9-7. Nice to see you guys keep living in the past. Oh and yes the Steelers and Colts would both expose the Cowboys the same way the Pats just did. Plain and simple...they're just better teams.

The Dallas hate is so strong people are talking out their a#$. Colts didnt expose anything last year in Dallas if i recall. Steelers? they cant even handle the Cards and Big Ben is no Brady. They dont have the wide open game plan and WR's to execute that type of game on Dallas. Steelers are a running team and Dallas can handle that. No NFC team is capable right now of beating the Pats so to say Dallas is overrated because they lost to them is ridiculous. How many drive stalling penalties did dallas have yesterday? I dont know how many times I saw a nice play for a first down wiped out for a penalty that now made it 3rd and long. They had over 100 yards in penalties, with that type of game im suprised they even had the lead in the 3rd quarter.

There you go again talking about last year.

Since that is the last time the Cowboys and Colts played against eachother thats what i have to go on.

Fair enough. So what is the point of mentioning that game over and over? Are you saying the the Cowboys were better than the Colts last year?

 

[Brutis]

The last MNF game was a heck of a game to watch.Bottom line, however, is that the best team in the NFC severely struggled against a very average AFC team. NE wins this game easily, IMO. The Cowboys are the 5th best team in the league - at best.

So does that mean the Cards are the 3rd best team in the league because they beat the Steelers who a majority think are the 3rd best team in the AFC? What now im confused because you said was the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC?

I'll break it down for you and {Syrup}....NEINDPITTSDDAL (slightly edged by SD)On any given weekend, a team can play poorly (see last week's MNF implosion by Dallas). That doesn't mean that any team that beats these 5 are better overall. IMO, Dallas would be exposed by any of the teams above them on this list. We'll see this Sunday.

Would Pitt expose Dallas the same way they exposed the Cardinals? Most overrated team in football, with the most overrated quarterback.edit to add...would Indy expose Dallas the same way they did last year?These comments are ridiculous.

Last year the Cowboys were 9-7. Nice to see you guys keep living in the past. Oh and yes the Steelers and Colts would both expose the Cowboys the same way the Pats just did. Plain and simple...they're just better teams.

The Dallas hate is so strong people are talking out their a#$. Colts didnt expose anything last year in Dallas if i recall. Steelers? they cant even handle the Cards and Big Ben is no Brady. They dont have the wide open game plan and WR's to execute that type of game on Dallas. Steelers are a running team and Dallas can handle that. No NFC team is capable right now of beating the Pats so to say Dallas is overrated because they lost to them is ridiculous. How many drive stalling penalties did dallas have yesterday? I dont know how many times I saw a nice play for a first down wiped out for a penalty that now made it 3rd and long. They had over 100 yards in penalties, with that type of game im suprised they even had the lead in the 3rd quarter.

There you go again talking about last year.

Since that is the last time the Cowboys and Colts played against eachother thats what i have to go on.

Fair enough. So what is the point of mentioning that game over and over? Are you saying the the Cowboys were better than the Colts last year?

They were that day last year in dallas.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The last MNF game was a heck of a game to watch.Bottom line, however, is that the best team in the NFC severely struggled against a very average AFC team. NE wins this game easily, IMO. The Cowboys are the 5th best team in the league - at best.

So does that mean the Cards are the 3rd best team in the league because they beat the Steelers who a majority think are the 3rd best team in the AFC? What now im confused because you said was the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC?

I'll break it down for you and {Syrup}....NEINDPITTSDDAL (slightly edged by SD)On any given weekend, a team can play poorly (see last week's MNF implosion by Dallas). That doesn't mean that any team that beats these 5 are better overall. IMO, Dallas would be exposed by any of the teams above them on this list. We'll see this Sunday.

Would Pitt expose Dallas the same way they exposed the Cardinals? Most overrated team in football, with the most overrated quarterback.edit to add...would Indy expose Dallas the same way they did last year?These comments are ridiculous.

Last year the Cowboys were 9-7. Nice to see you guys keep living in the past. Oh and yes the Steelers and Colts would both expose the Cowboys the same way the Pats just did. Plain and simple...they're just better teams.

The Dallas hate is so strong people are talking out their a#$. Colts didnt expose anything last year in Dallas if i recall. Steelers? they cant even handle the Cards and Big Ben is no Brady. They dont have the wide open game plan and WR's to execute that type of game on Dallas. Steelers are a running team and Dallas can handle that. No NFC team is capable right now of beating the Pats so to say Dallas is overrated because they lost to them is ridiculous. How many drive stalling penalties did dallas have yesterday? I dont know how many times I saw a nice play for a first down wiped out for a penalty that now made it 3rd and long. They had over 100 yards in penalties, with that type of game im suprised they even had the lead in the 3rd quarter.

There you go again talking about last year.

Since that is the last time the Cowboys and Colts played against eachother thats what i have to go on.

Fair enough. So what is the point of mentioning that game over and over? Are you saying the the Cowboys were better than the Colts last year?

They were that day last year in dallas.

You're right. But then again, the Cowboys also weren't as good as the Lions last year.

 

[Brutis]

Not on that day they weren't

 

[twitch]

Three weeks from now when Dallas punches New England square in the jaw and sends them yankees packing back to Foxboro, I'll be here to tell you I told you so. And how 'bout them COWBOYS!!!!

Thought you were gonna be the 'medicine' man, guy?? You can only hide in that closet for so long.

 

[PatsWillWin]

In all fairness Dallas did punch NE at the beginning of the 3rd Q. NE got the ball and DAL made them punt. DAL drove the field and scored a TD for their only lead. Maybe it was only a jab but it did land. The problem is NE answered with a flurry of punches and ended the fight. So in context the OP was correct.

Yes I'm sure this is what the OP meant.

 

[Routilla]

In all fairness Dallas did punch NE at the beginning of the 3rd Q. NE got the ball and DAL made them punt. DAL drove the field and scored a TD for their only lead. Maybe it was only a jab but it did land. The problem is NE answered with a flurry of punches and ended the fight. So in context the OP was correct.

Yes I'm sure this is what the OP meant.

Glad you agree.

 

[simmonjm]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

People seem to forget for as good as Romo has been he has only played in a total of 17 games.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Pats Rule Baby

 

[redman]

Like I said, earlier in the thread, its just one regular season game. Sure, the Pats are the better team now but its a longggggggggggggg season.

Yes and no. In literal terms it's of course just another game, and a non-conference one at that. One wonders whether this blowout at home will have any residual/carry-over effect on them, especially the defense.

 

[pizzatyme]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

 

[Moe Green]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.SD would win handily.Pittsburgh would be a favorite.The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Dallas would hold their own against SD and especially Pittsburgh. I agree that the Colts are better than the Cowboys right now, and obviously the Pats. Great passing teams can tear apart that horrible Dallas secondary.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.SD would win handily.Pittsburgh would be a favorite.The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

I am not quite ready to call the Chargers one of the top AFC teams yet, given their 3-3 record and given how poor they have looked at times this year. I would easily place the Jaguars ahead of them right now. The rest of your post is aces, though.

 

[simmonjm]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

 

[Tanner9919]

Three weeks from now when Dallas punches New England square in the jaw and sends them yankees packing back to Foxboro, I'll be here to tell you I told you so. And how 'bout them COWBOYS!!!!

the Yanks went back to foxboro pretty doggone happy, y'all..probably eatin' them grits and such, with side order of chewin' tabaccy and a fifth of JD ?I guess them good ole boys couldn't hold their water yesterday, huh?

 

[redman]

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[twitch]

milk carton.

 

[Mustang Man]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

Good post, glad you wrote it so I did not have to. With that said congrats to the Pats they deserved to win the game and would have won even if the Refs did not give every close call to the Pats. Randy Moss Pass interference in the endzone with the score Dallas 24-21 was terrible. Next play they score and never look back. I think it would have been a bit closer though. Man I thought that game was being played in NE. Dallas could not stop Brady on 3rd down. They were close in this game but close is not enough vs this team. Again Pats are clearly the best right now. Do not just think they will run away with the title though. They are by far the favorites, GOOD LUCK, the rest of the way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

Good post, glad you wrote it so I did not have to. With that said congrats to the Pats they deserved to win the game and would have won even if the Refs did not give every close call to the Pats. Randy Moss Pass interference in the endzone with the score Dallas 24-21 was terrible. Next play they score and never look back. I think it would have been a bit closer though. Man I thought that game was being played in NE. Dallas could not stop Brady on 3rd down. They were close in this game but close is not enough vs this team. Again Pats are clearly the best right now. Do not just think they will run away with the title though. They are by far the favorites, GOOD LUCK, the rest of the way.

Please stop this.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

milk carton.

Probably at a hockey game with friends, or something....Wait a sec, Member No. 2308?!? That's embarrassing.

 

[pizzatyme]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

You're embarrassing yourself with the they could beat the Colts, blah blah blah.AFC Vs. NFC records don't matter because in the Playoffs only the AFCs best plays the NFCs best. With that said, the AFC has won 6 of the last 7 and 8 of the last 10. That, my friend, is a trend!

The AFC representative will win again, it's pretty clear to me.

 

[Brutis]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

You're embarrassing yourself with the they could beat the Colts, blah blah blah.AFC Vs. NFC records don't matter because in the Playoffs only the AFCs best plays the NFCs best. With that said, the AFC has won 6 of the last 7 and 8 of the last 10. That, my friend, is a trend!

The AFC representative will win again, it's pretty clear to me.

Wow, you're pretty friggin smart. Good for you!

 

[eom]

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and why am I not seeing the sig, you welcher.predictable --- everybody who rips the pats for cheating is doing the same thing, themselves.edit:my apologies --- apparently I spoke to soon and he was just waiting on something from me.

 

[monkeysee]

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[eom]

is it really possible that syrus and big daddy caned would both go into hiding after yapping about pats fans not showing up on monday??

#######.....we may have found a new low in fandom.

you san diego fans are off the hook.

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

milk carton.

Probably at a hockey game with friends, or something....Wait a sec, Member No. 2308?!? That's embarrassing.

 

[Sylira21]

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Hmmm...Given this poster's pearls of wisdom in the Roy Williams thread, perhaps this is BDK's alias?

 

[porkins]

Exactly what does "toe the line" mean anyway?

 

[Routilla]

Exactly what does "toe the line" mean anyway?

It has to do with conformity. "Walk the line" would have been more appropriate. Sort of like picking a side and honoring your assessment with a follow up post either way.

 

[porkins]

Exactly what does "toe the line" mean anyway?

It has to do with conformity. "Walk the line" would have been more appropriate. Sort of like picking a side and honoring your assessment with a follow up post either way.

So where is Big Daddy Kane?

 

[switz]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

I think the difference was coaching. Brady didn't look that great until Belichek adjusted his protection schemes. Not a knock on Brady, no one would do anything getting hit as much as he was early on. But if the coach hadn't adjusted protections, the game would have had a totally different outcome, and Brady wouldn't have put up those numbers.For as much credit as Belichek gets - he is still the most underrated coach in the NFL, he amazes me week in and out.

 

[twitch]

Exactly what does "toe the line" mean anyway?

It has to do with conformity. "Walk the line" would have been more appropriate. Sort of like picking a side and honoring your assessment with a follow up post either way.

Good call. Another interpretation - "Toe The Line" = Carry Your WeightBDK = DEAD Weight ( for the moment, atleast )

 

[twitch]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

I think the difference was coaching. Brady didn't look that great until Belichek adjusted his protection schemes. Not a knock on Brady, no one would do anything getting hit as much as he was early on. But if the coach hadn't adjusted protections, the game would have had a totally different outcome, and Brady wouldn't have put up those numbers.For as much credit as Belichek gets - he is still the most underrated coach in the NFL, he amazes me week in and out.

good points. Josh McDaniels is another young coach who doesnt get alot of love. But as an O coordinator now for 2 years, this young guy has done some great things. Im not sure which season is more impressive. Helping the '06 completely overachieve with the little talent they had at WR, or this season, where he's pushing this team's potential to the max.

 

[parrot]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

I think the difference was coaching. Brady didn't look that great until Belichek adjusted his protection schemes. Not a knock on Brady, no one would do anything getting hit as much as he was early on. But if the coach hadn't adjusted protections, the game would have had a totally different outcome, and Brady wouldn't have put up those numbers.For as much credit as Belichek gets - he is still the most underrated coach in the NFL, he amazes me week in and out.

The Patriots first possession went seventy four yards for a touchdown and was nearly all passing. There third possession went 69 yards for a TD, again almost all passing. This is all in the first quarter where Brady put up more than a third of his yardage total. Yeah the adjustments definitely seemed to tighten up the protection but it's not like Brady was exactly ineffective early on.

 

[redman]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

I think the difference was coaching. Brady didn't look that great until Belichek adjusted his protection schemes. Not a knock on Brady, no one would do anything getting hit as much as he was early on. But if the coach hadn't adjusted protections, the game would have had a totally different outcome, and Brady wouldn't have put up those numbers.For as much credit as Belichek gets - he is still the most underrated coach in the NFL, he amazes me week in and out.

Sunday morning this (finally) occurred to me as probably being a critical difference in the game. If you think about it as a matchup between Bill Belichick and Wade Phillips, the comparison is so lopsided as to be comical. Cowboys fans are feeling their oats this year as they should be - the team is definitely good. I'm just wondering how far you can expect to get with Phillips as your head coach.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Sunday morning this (finally) occurred to me as probably being a critical difference in the game. If you think about it as a matchup between Bill Belichick and Wade Phillips, the comparison is so lopsided as to be comical.

True, but it isn't always that simple. I remember a Thanksgiving game a few years ago between Miami and Dallas, which pitted Parcells vs. Dave Wannstedt. Simple logic dictated there that the Cowboys should have won, but the Dolphins won pretty handily. Then again, in the case of NE and Dallas, the Patriots are obviously the better and more talented team, so, yeah, expecting Phillips to find a way to beat Belicheck is a major stretch.

Cowboys fans are feeling their oats this year as they should be - the team is definitely good. I'm just wondering how far you can expect to get with Phillips as your head coach.

Normally, I would say, not very far, but in this year's NFC, you never know.

 

[redman]

Sunday morning this (finally) occurred to me as probably being a critical difference in the game. If you think about it as a matchup between Bill Belichick and Wade Phillips, the comparison is so lopsided as to be comical.

True, but it isn't always that simple. I remember a Thanksgiving game a few years ago between Miami and Dallas, which pitted Parcells vs. Dave Wannstedt. Simple logic dictated there that the Cowboys should have won, but the Dolphins won pretty handily. Then again, in the case of NE and Dallas, the Patriots are obviously the better and more talented team, so, yeah, expecting Phillips to find a way to beat Belicheck is a major stretch.

Cowboys fans are feeling their oats this year as they should be - the team is definitely good. I'm just wondering how far you can expect to get with Phillips as your head coach.

Normally, I would say, not very far, but in this year's NFC, you never know.

Certainly coaching is not the only consideration, and in any given game it could have virtually no impact if impact players are making plays. I also agree that being in the weaker of the two conferences can only help. To me, though, that's a glaring deficiency, and those types of things tend to get revealed in playoffs and even in important games in December.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think its reasonable to say, but certainly to be debated, that the difference in that game was basically Tom Brady. Id make the case that you put him on that Cowboys team with TO and Witten, Hurd and Crayton, and that running game with Jones and Barber, and Dallas would have won that game by an equally lopsided score. And Dallas, not NE, would be a heavy Superbowl favorite. Not to take anything at all away from Romo or the greatness of Belichick, but #12 is just that good. Dallas is a great team, and I came away from that team knowing theyre a legitimate favorite in the NFC. They just arent QBed by Tom Brady.

I think the difference was coaching. Brady didn't look that great until Belichek adjusted his protection schemes. Not a knock on Brady, no one would do anything getting hit as much as he was early on. But if the coach hadn't adjusted protections, the game would have had a totally different outcome, and Brady wouldn't have put up those numbers.For as much credit as Belichek gets - he is still the most underrated coach in the NFL, he amazes me week in and out.

Sunday morning this (finally) occurred to me as probably being a critical difference in the game. If you think about it as a matchup between Bill Belichick and Wade Phillips, the comparison is so lopsided as to be comical. Cowboys fans are feeling their oats this year as they should be - the team is definitely good. I'm just wondering how far you can expect to get with Phillips as your head coach.

I think the Cowboys can make the Super Bowl if they stay healthy. I don't think there's a team in the NFC that could have competed like the Cowboys did on Sunday. The right team won and all that stuff but the score was inflated, for most of the 60 minutes it was competitive. Dallas had a lead in the 3rd quarter but the defense just went flat, they were on the field way to long.Now, Dallas is NOT head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC teams. In fact, I predict that they lose in New York Giants and they'll probably split with Washington and Philly.I expect Dallas to be 12-4 at year's end with the best record in the NFC. I expect them to be playing in the NFC Championship against either Tampa Bay or the New York Giants.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. This is probably true but time will tell

Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now.

Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. The defense will be the downfall of this team. I can't believe you're relying on Tank Johnson.

Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas If Dallas played New England 10 times this year on a neutral field, New England would win 8. That's actually a compliment because against most other teams in the NFL, the Pats would win 9.

Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year. You can stress this all you want but it doesn't change the fact that the teams that will represent the AFC in the playoffs are much much better than the teams that will represent the NFC in the playoffs.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Dallas remains a top team, just not as good as the AFC's top 4 teams. This goes for any of the NFC teams. They just aren't as good.

Dallas did beat the Colts last season at home. Had that game been in Indy, it would have likely been the other way around.

On neutral ground, the AFC is just better right now!

NE and Indy would dominate any NFC team in the SB.

SD would win handily.

Pittsburgh would be a favorite.

The Super Bowl happens in the AFC Championship game again this season. It's as simple as that.

Way to kick a man when he is down. Dallas is a great team. They will be much better when their guys come back injury i.e. Terry Glenn, Tank Johnson, and Anthony Henry. Dallas would beat the Steelers, Chargers, and possibly the Colts right now. Their pass defense is ranked in the top 10 they are good they are just missing players and had tough matchups against the Pats. Also it is not set in stone that New England would win again against Dallas just like its not set in stone that if Dallas had to play Chicago again they would win. Again I cant stress this enough but the AFC is only 14-12 against the NFC this year.

Good post, glad you wrote it so I did not have to. With that said congrats to the Pats they deserved to win the game and would have won even if the Refs did not give every close call to the Pats. Randy Moss Pass interference in the endzone with the score Dallas 24-21 was terrible. Next play they score and never look back. I think it would have been a bit closer though. Man I thought that game was being played in NE. Dallas could not stop Brady on 3rd down. They were close in this game but close is not enough vs this team. Again Pats are clearly the best right now. Do not just think they will run away with the title though. They are by far the favorites, GOOD LUCK, the rest of the way.

Didn't Randy Moss get called for an offensive pass interference that was a ridiculous call?

 

[twitch]

just when you thought it was safe...

 

[eom]

I hope big daddy caned hasn't fallen victim to foul play.

or maybe he and syrus ran off for a private ceremony.

 

[PatsFanCT]

I hope big daddy caned hasn't fallen victim to foul play.or maybe he and syrus ran off for a private ceremony.

I think they have "real lives with better things to do than hang around a stupid message board talking smack with a bunch of morons..." or so they will say.

 

[monkeysee]

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Hmmm...Given this poster's pearls of wisdom in the Roy Williams thread, perhaps this is BDK's alias?

Nice try.Here is another pearl for you Sylvia....

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[twitch]

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Hmmm...Given this poster's pearls of wisdom in the Roy Williams thread, perhaps this is BDK's alias?

Nice try.Here is another pearl for you Sylvia....

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Losing by 21...a full 3 TDs...that's gotta suck! *

 

[Routilla]

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Hmmm...Given this poster's pearls of wisdom in the Roy Williams thread, perhaps this is BDK's alias?

Nice try.Here is another pearl for you Sylvia....

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Losing by 21...a full 3 TDs...that's gotta suck! *

I'll trade 3 TDs in week 6 for 5 Super Bowl victories every time. Think Big Picture and you'll realize this is not a big deal. Try and show some class, thanks.