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Dan Bilzerian--Living Every Guy's Dream (1 Viewer)

People still hating on this dude? What's wrong with toys and whores? (the gun thing is a little weird but seems like he's trying to make sure he has all the testosterone boxes checked)

 
Here's why it's not every guy's dream: he's kind of a girl dog in the sense that he didn't make that money. His daddy handed it to him. There is something very unmanly about being taken on a date and paid for. There's something a lot more impressive, like light years more, if he's a self made man. So while he seemingly has a pretty cool life, I personally would have a hard time sleeping at night if I stepped into his shoes. And I'm much happier being a guy who made my own successes (and failures). So he'll always seem a little bit like a little boy in that respect, no matter how many strippers or guns or Navy seal programs.
couldn't disagree more.

If you gave me a choice between having to work for my money or somehow winning it or having it gifted to me I'd take the gift every time.

Being self-made is completely overrated.

I'm sure there is some value to having worked for what you got, and a certain level of respect that garners.... but let's be real... working sucks.

And I truly feel it's a slap in the face for us working schleps when you see guys like Zuckerberg still working.... someone has several billion and the guy is NOT using that to just buy a section of St. Barts and live out his remaining years sipping pina coladas and getting daily massages and hanging out with hot chicks and/or good buddies/crew
Being a trust fund kid is easier, but self-made men are more respectable.

Does he pay these chicks to hang around him? That also dings his alpha-ness if true, IMO.
He's paying them one way or the other.

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
To you. I know some for whom that sense of accomplishment would mean more than the 100m. Not me, I'm not crazy... but it certainly depends on the person and what they value
You know people who would work fulltime earning ~$100k-$300k/year instead of taking $100MM? I find that very difficult to believe.
I actually do. Artists, people in public policy, social workers, entrepreneurs in small business. Hell, my father, who is a professional musician is one of them - enough money to live comfortably, but never had a desire to go out and make it rich.

Now, that is not to say that these people would refuse the additional money, but they would not trade their life, and moreso their life's work, for money. Even that much.

Shocker alert: Not everyone is driven by money. And in fact, our nation is way to preoccupied with it, imo.

 
I know it's hard to understand but I would rather work hard and retire with a net worth of a couple million than be given a large inheritance. I like myself better when I have to work hard. Call me crazy but I would not trade my toyota corolla for this guys private jet.

 
People still hating on this dude? What's wrong with toys and whores? (the gun thing is a little weird but seems like he's trying to make sure he has all the testosterone boxes checked)
Don't see that much hating going on, to be honest.

Most of us have readily admitted we'd jump at the chance to live his lifestyle, albeit with with certain adjustments.

That said, there's a legit point to pointing out that there may be some hollowness to the lifestyle (for some, maybe not for others), that at some point this guy may want to actually find someone he loves / loves him and that would be tough when hot chicks are there for fun and goodies and that by some accounts he may be a #####.

 
I know it's hard to understand but I would rather work hard and retire with a net worth of a couple million than be given a large inheritance. I like myself better when I have to work hard. Call me crazy but I would not trade my toyota corolla for this guys private jet.
I would rather take the $100MM inheritance and work hard to make it $500MM.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

 
I know it's hard to understand but I would rather work hard and retire with a net worth of a couple million than be given a large inheritance. I like myself better when I have to work hard. Call me crazy but I would not trade my toyota corolla for this guys private jet.
I like myself a lot better when i'm not working.

See the thing about the money is that I don't so much want it for stuff... i have nothing against your corolla.

I just don't want to work... work sucks.. it's a waste of time that could be spent doing thing more leisurely or fun.

As to Icon's statement about working hard to turn that 100m into 500.... no thanks... why? to prove yourself? 100M is multi-generational wealth... you can live like a king off just the yearly interest... what's 500M going to get you that 100M wouldn't?

I would work to invest the money properly.... because investment work would just be clicking some mouse buttons whilst on the beach looking for some stocks/bonds to invest in... but I wouldn't work "hard".

You only have to get rich once.

But maybe I'm in the minority... there are countless examples of big name people that have more than enough money to spend their remaining days with an IV line hooked up to the Pina Colada Machine and getting handies from Mexican massage therapists... but they continue working... movie stars, athletes, CEO's, musicians, writers... there are a lot of people that just wouldn't be comfortable with the idea of not working in some capacity... and I actually feel bad for those people that they feel like they couldn't feel good about themselves while only pursuing hobbies and leisure.

 
As to Icon's statement about working hard to turn that 100m into 500.... no thanks... why? to prove yourself? 100M is multi-generational wealth... you can live like a king off just the yearly interest... what's 500M going to get you that 100M wouldn't?
My point is in reference to sublime one's reference of liking/wanting to work.

If one was so inclined to work hard to make myself feel better:

Turning 0 to 3MM <<<<<< Turning 100MM to 500MM

Staring money doesn't preclude you from working hard and achieving great things. That was my point.

 
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As to Icon's statement about working hard to turn that 100m into 500.... no thanks... why? to prove yourself? 100M is multi-generational wealth... you can live like a king off just the yearly interest... what's 500M going to get you that 100M wouldn't?
My point is in reference to sublime one's reference of liking/wanting to work.

If one was so inclined to work hard to make myself feel better:

Turning 0 to 3MM <<<<<< Turning 100MM to 500MM

Staring money doesn't preclude you from working hard and achieving great things. That was my point.
At 500, you're starting to think G-V.

At 100, you're thinking about getting rid of Net Jets and getting your own jet--albeit a small one.

 
I know it's hard to understand but I would rather work hard and retire with a net worth of a couple million than be given a large inheritance. I like myself better when I have to work hard. Call me crazy but I would not trade my toyota corolla for this guys private jet.
I like myself a lot better when i'm not working.

See the thing about the money is that I don't so much want it for stuff... i have nothing against your corolla.

I just don't want to work... work sucks.. it's a waste of time that could be spent doing thing more leisurely or fun.

As to Icon's statement about working hard to turn that 100m into 500.... no thanks... why? to prove yourself? 100M is multi-generational wealth... you can live like a king off just the yearly interest... what's 500M going to get you that 100M wouldn't?

I would work to invest the money properly.... because investment work would just be clicking some mouse buttons whilst on the beach looking for some stocks/bonds to invest in... but I wouldn't work "hard".

You only have to get rich once.

But maybe I'm in the minority... there are countless examples of big name people that have more than enough money to spend their remaining days with an IV line hooked up to the Pina Colada Machine and getting handies from Mexican massage therapists... but they continue working... movie stars, athletes, CEO's, musicians, writers... there are a lot of people that just wouldn't be comfortable with the idea of not working in some capacity... and I actually feel bad for those people that they feel like they couldn't feel good about themselves while only pursuing hobbies and leisure.
My link.

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
Totally disagree. Worth more than the money IMO. Of course I wouldn't turn down a free 100MM, but if I won that 100MM before I had made anything of myself, I'd spend my life feeling awkward about it.

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
Totally disagree. Worth more than the money IMO. Of course I wouldn't turn down a free 100MM, but if I won that 100MM before I had made anything of myself, I'd spend my life feeling awkward about it.
And I would have been irresponsible with it. My parents set aside a very small amount of money for college and I did all I could to blow it on partying. $100 million and I would have ended up with a myriad of addictions and disorders.

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
Totally disagree. Worth more than the money IMO. Of course I wouldn't turn down a free 100MM, but if I won that 100MM before I had made anything of myself, I'd spend my life feeling awkward about it.
And I would have been irresponsible with it. My parents set aside a very small amount of money for college and I did all I could to blow it on partying. $100 million and I would have ended up with a myriad of addictions and disorders.
Like, say, a gun fetish, maybe a drug problem, some really nice cars, a few boats, a helicopter, and a bunch of beautiful women?

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
Totally disagree. Worth more than the money IMO. Of course I wouldn't turn down a free 100MM, but if I won that 100MM before I had made anything of myself, I'd spend my life feeling awkward about it.
As do many multi-state lottery winners and professional athletes.

People read about 73% of ex-NFL & 60% of ex-NBA players being broke within 5 years and conclude it's just stupidity. That's not it; sudden wealth syndrome is real. 40% of multi-state lottery winners declare bankruptcy within 5 years. Usually it's to re-organize because the spending is out of control.

DB was probably better equipped to deal with his inheritance, if for no other reason than he probably knew for years when the trusts would kick in. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if he blows it all. At some level, high draft picks, lottery winners & trust fund babies feel like they didn't deserve it.

People laugh about sudden wealth syndrome; boo-ducking hoo, wish I had that problem. But the psychology is pretty tough to overcome.

Far different for the self-made man who worked his ### off to achieve a high net worth.

 
Lots of strawman arguments in here. No one said they wouldn't take $100mil or whatever if offered, they just said as far as living the 'American Dream' or whatever, there's something to be said for earning your money as opposed to being given it; a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day isn't valueless.
not value-less.. just really low value.
Totally disagree. Worth more than the money IMO. Of course I wouldn't turn down a free 100MM, but if I won that 100MM before I had made anything of myself, I'd spend my life feeling awkward about it.
And I would have been irresponsible with it. My parents set aside a very small amount of money for college and I did all I could to blow it on partying. $100 million and I would have ended up with a myriad of addictions and disorders.
Like, say, a gun fetish, maybe a drug problem, some really nice cars, a few boats, a helicopter, and a bunch of beautiful women?
Mostly just the drugs and women. The other stuff doesn't interest me as much. Plus, at a young age, I had some issues with depression and anxiety. While it would seem cars, drugs and women might make me happier, that's the stuff that just increases the highs and lows. Having a steady healthy relationship with my wife and a job where I work with kids has pretty much eliminated all of those psychological issues.Everyone is different and some people really like the ups and downs adrenaline rush, I am much happier finding the steady groove and floating through.

 
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I'm not against his lifestyle but I think it is very douchey to post it all over instagram. If his mug was posted everywhere because he was a great athlete or movie star that would be one thing, but he is a celebrity because he is rich. He is pretty much the male version of Paris Hilton.

The real bosses are guys like Bill Gates who don't get off on boasting.

 
Rule Nombre Uno: never let no one know / How much dough you hold cause you know / The cheddar breed jealousy 'specially

 
Just off some of his pics on twitter from the past couple of months, he bought a $300k watch, a $900k SUV and a multi-million dollar house in Montana based off pics and never seeing it. My goodness.

This guy is Brewsters Millions but he can keep assets.

 
Is it every mans dream to get sued by a marginal porn star for breaking her foot after throwing her off the roof?
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0514-dan-bilzerian-doc.pdf
If all lawyers at some point are herded up and drowned I'd vote this guy get a reprieve for this letter.
Tom Goldstein is one of the most respected appellate lawyers in the country. He regularly argues before the SCOTUS. That context makes the letter even more enjoyable to me.

 
The letter is great but I must admit I was distracted by the bad grammar. No idea why someone at his level would make those mistakes.

 

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