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David Wilson Crying after losing the football ? (1 Viewer)

So what.

He cares about football.

Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long.

:football:

 
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
 
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
 
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So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
 
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. If anything, Murray just has bad vision.
 
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So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort. Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle. Thats after a 12 yard gain.
 
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So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort. Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle. Thats after a 12 yard gain.
Bryant was holding off 2 guys and Murray ran right into the back of Bryant. Bryant couldn't even see him because he was trying to block 2 guys and Murray was behind him, then Murray ran right into Bryant.
 
So what.

He cares about football.

Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long.

:football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.

The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort.

Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle.

Thats after a 12 yard gain.
Bryant was holding off 2 guys and Murray ran right into the back of Bryant. Bryant couldn't even see him because he was trying to block 2 guys and Murray was behind him, then Murray ran right into Bryant.
WRONG PLAY.
 
2-10-NYG29 (7:48) D.Murray left tackle to NYG 14 for 15 yards (C.Webster).

This play .

Not this play .

2-3-DAL27 (4:35) D.Murray right end to NYG 25 for 48 yards (A.Rolle).

 
So what.

He cares about football.

Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long.

:football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.

The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort.

Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle.

Thats after a 12 yard gain.
Bryant was holding off 2 guys and Murray ran right into the back of Bryant. Bryant couldn't even see him because he was trying to block 2 guys and Murray was behind him, then Murray ran right into Bryant.
WRONG PLAY.
NO YOU. But let me break down both plays in case there is any confusion (we were talking about the same play despite earlier confusion in this thread):

1. Murray running across the middle of the field, Bryant blocking 2 guys in the middle, Murray runs right into the back of Bryant. Good run, nice gain, but bad vision on Murray's part cost a possible TD.

2. Murray running up the sideline. Bryant a few yards ahead blocking successfully. 100% TD if Murray keeps going up the sideline, yet he inexplicably cuts it in right into 3 defenders, his bad vision costing himself a definite TD on that play.

 
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So what.

He cares about football.

Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long.

:football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.

The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort.

Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle.

Thats after a 12 yard gain.
Bryant was holding off 2 guys and Murray ran right into the back of Bryant. Bryant couldn't even see him because he was trying to block 2 guys and Murray was behind him, then Murray ran right into Bryant.
WRONG PLAY.
NO YOU. But let me break down both plays in case there is any confusion (we were talking about the same play despite earlier confusion in this thread):

1. Murray running across the middle of the field, Bryant blocking 2 guys in the middle, Murray runs right into the back of Bryant. Good run, nice gain, but bad vision on Murray's part cost a possible TD.

2. Murray running up the sideline. Bryant a few yards ahead blocking successfully. 100% TD if Murray keeps going up the sideline, yet he inexplicably cuts it in right into 3 defenders, his bad vision costing himself a definite TD on that play.
He also seems to want to prove is toughness by ducking his head and running over or through defenders.

Hopefully the coaches will correct that or he'll be hurt real soon. He's no Marion Barber and we all know how he wore down.

 
“Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football”. John Heisman (American Football Player, 1869-1936)

And if you do fumble it, you damn well better be remorseful.

Perhaps even shed a few tears.

 
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. Murray just has bad vision.
BS.On the run to the 14 Dez is giving zero effort. Just watching Murray, as his guy (the last man between Demarco and the end zone) gets the tackle. Thats after a 12 yard gain.
Bryant was holding off 2 guys and Murray ran right into the back of Bryant. Bryant couldn't even see him because he was trying to block 2 guys and Murray was behind him, then Murray ran right into Bryant.
It was both a pedestrian finish to the block by Dez but more so a TERRIBLE decision by Demarco to not go right up the sideline to the house. Strange play.
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?

 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
Negative, it's not in the box score. So you're arguing about something that doesn't exist. Congratulations. :thumbup:
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
Negative, it's not in the box score. So you're arguing about something that doesn't exist. Congratulations. :thumbup:
I saw it, the announcers talked about, saw tweets about it lol it definitely existed
 
What is the point of this thread again?

Is it to ridicule Wilson for being passionate about the fact that after a solid college career with the Hokies, and after expected to be Top 5 of his class, and after a solid preseason as the heir apparent in a town where media scrutiny is unparalleled, that his first NFL carry was a fumble?

Was it to declare him to be a bust after all but being benched after an unfortunate mistake, even though there are 16 weeks left in the season for Wilson to prove himself to Coughlin and the team?

Was it to argue over which play Dez Bryant and/or DeMarco Murray may or may not have shown effort or lack thereof?

Knee-jerk reactions and hyperbolic commentary are de riguer for opening night of the season, but c'mon, now.

 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
Negative, it's not in the box score. So you're arguing about something that doesn't exist. Congratulations. :thumbup:
I saw it, the announcers talked about, saw tweets about it lol it definitely existed
Down by contact also exists, as opposed to the fumble by Wilson where he had barely taken contact when the ball came out.
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
Negative, it's not in the box score. So you're arguing about something that doesn't exist. Congratulations. :thumbup:
I saw it, the announcers talked about, saw tweets about it lol it definitely existed
Down by contact also exists, as opposed to the fumble by Wilson where he had barely taken contact when the ball came out.
my point was they both fumbled, I didn't think Bradshaw was down on the play though apparently they ruled it that way in a confusing way. so blowing one fumble out of proportion is silly, misleading, and reactionary.
 
the thing people seem to be missing is Bradshaw fumbled also so not exactly sure why Coughlin punished Wilson by yanking him the rest of the game and let Bradshaw play every single play after his fumble. veteran favoritism?
He was never credited with a fumble. Did the the refs rule him down?
no the Giants recovered but I am pretty sure it was ruled a fumble on the field
Negative, it's not in the box score. So you're arguing about something that doesn't exist. Congratulations. :thumbup:
I saw it, the announcers talked about, saw tweets about it lol it definitely existed
Down by contact also exists, as opposed to the fumble by Wilson where he had barely taken contact when the ball came out.
my point was they both fumbled, I didn't think Bradshaw was down on the play though apparently they ruled it that way in a confusing way. so blowing one fumble out of proportion is silly, misleading, and reactionary.
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
 
He is a kid who loves the game and wants to help his team win. This game is his favorite thing to do and he is relying on it to support himself and his family. I like the fact that he takes it seriously and I am confident he will improve after this shaky start. I own him in only 1 of like 10 leagues so its not like I'm all in on him or anything, I just like his heart being in the game and with his team.

 
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
Curious if you think Tom Caughlin took note of the fact that the ball was rolling around on the turf with players diving after it at the conclusion of one of Bradshaw's carries.Or is he just looking at boxscores like you.
 
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
Curious if you think Tom Caughlin took note of the fact that the ball was rolling around on the turf with players diving after it at the conclusion of one of Bradshaw's carries.Or is he just looking at boxscores like you.
He probably noticed Bradshaw maintained possession until he was down, which is all that matters and also a lot more than Wilson could do. The ball comes out after the play is over all the time. It doesn't matter. Bradshaw ran with confidence and got the job done tonight. Bradshaw is one of the few bright spots in the Giant's loss tonight. Just wait until they have a lead and turn the ball over to him. BUY LOW!!! Wilson is completely irrelevant this year barring injury to Bradshaw. I agree Wilson is one of the top handcuffs to own, but owning a handcuff is just nothing more than hoping for an injury.
 
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Coughlin saw that he was down by contact and would have thrown the red flag if ruled otherwise. Coughlin also had to console Wilson when he was crying. What is this post about? This was a rough start for a rookie who already had a reputation for fumbling. Now he will have questions about his toughness.

 
'GreenNGold said:
'davearm said:
'GreenNGold said:
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
Curious if you think Tom Caughlin took note of the fact that the ball was rolling around on the turf with players diving after it at the conclusion of one of Bradshaw's carries.Or is he just looking at boxscores like you.
He probably noticed Bradshaw maintained possession until he was down, which is all that matters and also a lot more than Wilson could do. The ball comes out after the play is over all the time. It doesn't matter. Bradshaw ran with confidence and got the job done tonight. Bradshaw is one of the few bright spots in the Giant's loss tonight. Just wait until they have a lead and turn the ball over to him. BUY LOW!!! Wilson is completely irrelevant this year barring injury to Bradshaw. I agree Wilson is one of the top handcuffs to own, but owning a handcuff is just nothing more than hoping for an injury.
Honest question - do you own Bradshaw in your main league(s) or not?
 
'GreenNGold said:
'davearm said:
'GreenNGold said:
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
Curious if you think Tom Caughlin took note of the fact that the ball was rolling around on the turf with players diving after it at the conclusion of one of Bradshaw's carries.Or is he just looking at boxscores like you.
He probably noticed Bradshaw maintained possession until he was down, which is all that matters and also a lot more than Wilson could do. The ball comes out after the play is over all the time. It doesn't matter. Bradshaw ran with confidence and got the job done tonight. Bradshaw is one of the few bright spots in the Giant's loss tonight. Just wait until they have a lead and turn the ball over to him. BUY LOW!!! Wilson is completely irrelevant this year barring injury to Bradshaw. I agree Wilson is one of the top handcuffs to own, but owning a handcuff is just nothing more than hoping for an injury.
Honest question - do you own Bradshaw in your main league(s) or not?
No, I own him in zero leagues this year, although I did have him in redrafts last year and felt burnt by him. I avoided him this year, but based on tonight's performance I may end up regretting it.
 
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'GreenNGold said:
'davearm said:
'GreenNGold said:
Except Bradshaw didn't fumble.
Curious if you think Tom Caughlin took note of the fact that the ball was rolling around on the turf with players diving after it at the conclusion of one of Bradshaw's carries.Or is he just looking at boxscores like you.
He probably noticed Bradshaw maintained possession until he was down, which is all that matters and also a lot more than Wilson could do. The ball comes out after the play is over all the time. It doesn't matter. Bradshaw ran with confidence and got the job done tonight. Bradshaw is one of the few bright spots in the Giant's loss tonight. Just wait until they have a lead and turn the ball over to him. BUY LOW!!! Wilson is completely irrelevant this year barring injury to Bradshaw. I agree Wilson is one of the top handcuffs to own, but owning a handcuff is just nothing more than hoping for an injury.
Honest question - do you own Bradshaw in your main league(s) or not?
No, I own him in zero leagues this year, although I did have him in redrafts last year and felt burnt by him. I avoided him this year, but based on tonight's performance I may end up regretting it.
Reading your posts in various threads, thats what it felt like, but thanks.I guess Bradshaw ran with confidence, he had a few runs that impressed me by the end of the play, but overall he doesnt look like the same RB he did 2 years ago to me. Thats not to say he isnt valuable, because he is, and if Wilson cant hold onto the ball nothing is preventing Bradshaw really, but overall he looked mediocre to me tonight. He had a wide open TD run sweep, and a 30+ yd scamper while DAL was in prevent D at the end. DAL isnt a D to roll your eyes at though, so seeing this shake out a few more weeks should help.
 
I did not see anything special at all out of Bradshaw tonight. I think the big thing with him right now is if he is going to get the work in this offense he will produce.

 
'doowain said:
'BigSteelThrill said:
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
I saw that too. I was confused as to why he made that cut with Dez out in front of him. He easily could have gotten at least another 5-10 yards if not more.
 
'GreenNGold said:
'BigSteelThrill said:
'5-ish Finkle said:
'doowain said:
'BigSteelThrill said:
So what.He cares about football.Compared to the block effort Dez Bryant gave on Murrays run down to the 14 (or so) with only that CB to beat for a TD... Ill take a Wilson all day long. :football:
Huh? Watch it again. Murray screwed up there. He didn't follow Dez up the sideline. Instead he cut back right into two Giants. Dez was booking it down the sidelines to block as soon as Murray headed his way. I was thinking at the time "Wow I'm surprised that Dez was so motivated to run downfield to block."Maybe stop spreading untruths.
Pretty sure they're talking about a different play. It was after the big run down the sideline where Murray cut back inside for....whatever reason.The one were, basically, he got tackled by Dez. Had a likely score if Bryant had blocked instead of knocking him down.
This.
Neither play was Bryant's fault. If anything, Murray just has bad vision.
This.
 

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