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Jerome McDougle, William Joseph, and Vince Wilfork on the D-line with Vilma and DJ Williams at LB. I don't think an NFL team could just run on these dudes all day long.
19 year old V Tech freshman Kevin Jones put up 160 on the Canes in 2001. Imagine what an NFL RB with an NFL O-line would've done.
 
From the pay content Henry/MaGahee Spotlight.

"McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams"

Do you really think that Miami could beat an NFL team? That is wack. Miami is a phenomonal college program and it produces many quality NFL players but there is no way that it could beat an NFL team. NFL teams are the best of the best from every college in the country. Making statements like this make me question your whole vewpoint. Why was this in here?

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I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
 
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
Just like there would be no way a hodge-podge team of college hockey players that barely had practiced together could ever beat a team of full time professional Russian hockey players that played together for years for the Gold Medal.
 
Jerome McDougle, William Joseph, and Vince Wilfork on the D-line with Vilma and DJ Williams at LB. I don't think an NFL team could just run on these dudes all day long.
19 year old V Tech freshman Kevin Jones put up 160 on the Canes in 2001. Imagine what an NFL RB with an NFL O-line would've done.
so because that happened on ONE DAY in ONE GAME...that defense would never ever have another good game?100 different games on 100 different days, and I bet Miami wins at least 1
 
3 times out of 10???  You have got to be kidding.
Yeah, 3 out of 10 is an awful lot. I really don't think the Cardinals could beat the Patriots 3 out of 10 times. But the difference between the Cardinals and Patriots is tiny compared to the difference between the Cardinals and any college team.
What game have you been watching MT? How many of those Cardinal players would start for the Pats? How many of those Miami players would start for Arizona in year one? I bet the later is more then the former.
 
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
Just like there would be no way a hodge-podge team of college hockey players that barely had practiced together could ever beat a team of full time professional Russian hockey players that played together for years for the Gold Medal.
The ice hockey team in 1980 practised together for 4 months. Some sports lend themselves to upsets more than others. In basketball, if you have a team that can not hit an outside shot, it is relatively easy to beat them (especially with the wide key used by international rules, which makes defensive rebounding easier). In football, if you have physical dominance on the line, it is very hard to lose.One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how much better players get from their junior year at college to their thrid year in the NFL. Men's bodies normally don't fill out until 20 or 22 years old, so you have that to consider, plus NFL football becomes their job, so they get a lot smarter football wise. Competing against NFL caliber competition only makes them better compared to collegians, who, even if they are stars, don't get good competition except for maybe once a year. How many NFL caliber CBs did Andre Johnson face in college?
 
There have been 9 college allstar teams who beat that years NFL championship teams.ALL took place in an anual game played at Soldier field.1937 A.S.6 GB 0 1938 A.S. 24 Redskins16 1943 A.S.27 REDSKINS 7 1946 A.S.16 LA Rams 0 1947 A.S.16 Chi Bears 0 1950 A.S.17 Eagles 7 1955 A.S. 30 Clev Browns 27 1958 A.S.35 Det Lions19 1963 A.S.beat the mighty Packers 20-17 and in 1975 the allstars gave the steelers all they could handle Steelers 21 Allstars 14.Just a little info I thought I would pass everyones way.

 
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
Just like there would be no way a hodge-podge team of college hockey players that barely had practiced together could ever beat a team of full time professional Russian hockey players that played together for years for the Gold Medal.
Some sports lend themselves to upsets more than others. In basketball, if you have a team that can not hit an outside shot, it is relatively easy to beat them (especially with the wide key used by international rules, which makes defensive rebounding easier). In football, if you have physical dominance on the line, it is very hard to lose.
Thank you for saving me a lot more typing. You CANNOT USE OTHER SPORTS as your "Exhibit A" to support your argument as to why this particular upset is realistic. For the 30th time........

......... any NFL offensive line will physically dominate any college team's defensive line. Even if you want to show me a great college offense and claim that they would put up some points... okay, fine. But the college defense will get positively destroyed by the bigger, more mature offense.

It is flat out ignorant to make a comparison between this and an upset in basketball.

 
There have been 9 college allstar teams who beat that years NFL championship teams.ALL took place in an anual game played at Soldier field.1937 A.S.6 GB 0 1938 A.S. 24 Redskins16 1943 A.S.27 REDSKINS 7 1946 A.S.16 LA Rams 0 1947 A.S.16 Chi Bears 0 1950 A.S.17 Eagles 7 1955 A.S. 30 Clev Browns 27 1958 A.S.35 Det Lions19 1963 A.S.beat the mighty Packers 20-17 and in 1975 the allstars gave the steelers all they could handle Steelers 21 Allstars 14.Just a little info I thought I would pass everyones way.
Now we are upping the ante to include college all-star teams? That wasn't the original premise of this debate, and even if it was, most of those games you mention were from the stone age. There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago. Pro football players don't need to take jobs in the offseason in order to supplement their income as they did back in the 50s. They work out and perfect their craft about 11 months a year now.

 
Have to agree with the general consensus. If I could bet on this, I'd bet the under on the 0.5 out of 100 mentioned earlier.The NFL teams would dominate the lines and depth, as mentioned in multiple posts earlier. Really, that is enough.But they would also completely dominate special teams, which hasn't been mentioned. The NFL team would most likely start with much better field position on every drive, their FG accuracy would likely be much better (and further), and their punting (if needed) would be much better.Interesting topic, though, and I don't find David's statement outrageous... just thought provoking (and wrong :P ).

 
Just saying it has happened and wouldnt you think an allstar team would have less chance at winning considering not playing on the same team where as the champs did.I realize it was a long time ago except for the Steeler game but they were all playing on even field becuase I dont think college players then were given the royal treatment that they are today.Just trying to add to the discussion.They stoped those games becuase the allstars were already drafted and going to their respective teams so they did not want to get injured in a meaningless game and salaries were starting to get excessisve.I do think it might be interesting for them to try it again though .

 
wouldnt you think an allstar team would have less chance at winning considering not playing on the same team where as the champs did.
No. All-star teams are putting 11 exceptional players on the field every time the ball is snapped. I'm quite certain they had plenty of time to practice before taking on the NFL.
 
There have been 9 college allstar teams who beat that years NFL championship teams.ALL took place in an anual game played at Soldier field.1937 A.S.6 GB 0 1938 A.S. 24 Redskins16 1943 A.S.27 REDSKINS 7 1946 A.S.16 LA Rams 0 1947 A.S.16 Chi Bears 0 1950 A.S.17 Eagles 7 1955 A.S. 30 Clev Browns 27 1958 A.S.35 Det Lions19 1963 A.S.beat the mighty Packers 20-17 and in 1975 the allstars gave the steelers all they could handle Steelers 21 Allstars 14.Just a little info I thought I would pass everyones way.
Now we are upping the ante to include college all-star teams? That wasn't the original premise of this debate, and even if it was, most of those games you mention were from the stone age. There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago. Pro football players don't need to take jobs in the offseason in order to supplement their income as they did back in the 50s. They work out and perfect their craft about 11 months a year now.
So your saying guys in the Hall of Fame arnt of the same caliber of player of today.Y.A. Tiddle,Johnny U ,Bart Star,Jim Thorpe Curly Lambeau.Sammy Baugh ,Red Grange to name a few
 
Now we are upping the ante to include college all-star teams? That wasn't the original premise of this debate, and even if it was, most of those games you mention were from the stone age. There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago. Pro football players don't need to take jobs in the offseason in order to supplement their income as they did back in the 50s.

They work out and perfect their craft about 11 months a year now.
but they were also playing the NFL CHAMPIONS and not the lowly Chargers or Cardinals.Do you think a 2003 College All-Star team would have a better chance against the Pats than the Hurricanes of 2001/2002 would have had against the Cardinals or Chargers?

To be clear. I agree with the premise that an NFL team would dominate. But, saying that one particular college team could win 1 out of 100 matchups with the worst team the NFL has to offer is FAR from preposterous. IMO, it is within the realm of possibility.

Unlikely things happen all the time in sports. There are plenty of things that we all think "can't happen" but at some point they usually do and then afterwards they don't seem so crazy after all.

A similar debate is often waged when wondering how the lowest ranked men's tennis player would do against the #1 women's player. Chances are the man would dominate, but Serena probably could take a game or two at least.

 
There have been 9 college allstar teams who beat that years NFL championship teams.ALL took place in an anual game played at Soldier field.1937 A.S.6 GB 0 1938 A.S. 24 Redskins16 1943 A.S.27 REDSKINS 7 1946 A.S.16 LA Rams 0 1947 A.S.16 Chi Bears 0 1950 A.S.17 Eagles 7 1955 A.S. 30 Clev Browns 27 1958 A.S.35 Det Lions19 1963 A.S.beat the mighty Packers 20-17 and in 1975 the allstars gave the steelers all they could handle Steelers 21 Allstars 14.Just a little info I thought I would pass everyones way.
Now we are upping the ante to include college all-star teams? That wasn't the original premise of this debate, and even if it was, most of those games you mention were from the stone age. There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago. Pro football players don't need to take jobs in the offseason in order to supplement their income as they did back in the 50s. They work out and perfect their craft about 11 months a year now.
So your saying guys in the Hall of Fame arnt of the same caliber of player of today.Y.A. Tiddle,Johnny U ,Bart Star,Jim Thorpe Curly Lambeau.Sammy Baugh ,Red Grange to name a few
Actually, no. YOU said that. Go back and read what I did write.
 
Now we are upping the ante to include college all-star teams? That wasn't the original premise of this debate, and even if it was, most of those games you mention were from the stone age. There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago. Pro football players don't need to take jobs in the offseason in order to supplement their income as they did back in the 50s.

They work out and perfect their craft about 11 months a year now.
but they were also playing the NFL CHAMPIONS and not the lowly Chargers or Cardinals.Do you think a 2003 College All-Star team would have a better chance against the Pats than the Hurricanes of 2001/2002 would have had against the Cardinals or Chargers?
I think both college entries would lose by 40. The key part of my post which you quoted:"There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago."

 
1 out of 100, sure. By the 90th game Miami would be a much better team. To stay true to the original question, the first game would be a disaster.

 
1 out of 100, sure. By the 90th game Miami would be a much better team.
I think you are probably taking that "100 games" a bit too literally. Given the normal 16 game NFL season, it would take over six years to play those 100 games. That's not what I had in mind. Rather, let's imagine that the best college team (at the moment) faced off against the worst NFL team (at the moment) every week for 100 weeks.It wouldn't always be the University of Miami, and it wouldn't always be the Char.......

..... scratch that. It would always be the Chargers. :D

 
1 out of 100, sure. By the 90th game Miami would be a much better team. To stay true to the original question, the first game would be a disaster.
it is purely a hypothetical and not meant to be taken that literally.I'm thinking along the lines of when someone misses a putt, and then it is said "if I hit that ball 100 times, it would probably go in the hole on 99 of them".in this instance, I'm thinking if you could hypothetically match these 2 teams up 100 different times within a short time frame (and not allow for any performance improvement over time), that the college team would likely win 1 game. it could be the luckiest win imaginable, and the pros might play like absolute dog####...but it would be a win.could you imagine if an actual NFL team won 1 game out of 100? That is beyond pathetic. Saying the most talent rich college team of recent memory could actually win 1 game out of 100 against the worst of the worst in the NFL hardly seems earth shattering to me.Additionally, you wouldn't even have to believe they could beat them for the argument to be valid. If you agreed that they could keep the game close in 1 out of 100, then there would also likely be a chance that they could win the close game. If you agree there is a chance they could keep it close in 1 out of 100 games and thus have an even smaller chance to win 1 out of 100 games, then you agree that the college team COULD POSSIBLY beat a pro team.
 
I feel reasonably confident that USC last year could have beaten on the Giants team that lost 45-7 to the Saints last year.If an NFL team tanks it, it doesn't matter how much talent they have. Giving up is giving up.If they played 100 times, I'd expect an off day here or there. However, if they ever staged this, the NFL team would likely be pumped and motivated for the game.But please don't forget how truly awful some NFL teams have been. How about the Cards last year allowing 50 points to the 49ers!! Or the Bears allowing 49!On any given Sunday

 
From the pay content Henry/MaGahee Spotlight.

"McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams"

Do you really think that Miami could beat an NFL team? That is wack. Miami is a phenomonal college program and it produces many quality NFL players but there is no way that it could beat an NFL team. NFL teams are the best of the best from every college in the country. Making statements like this make me question your whole vewpoint. Why was this in here?

:fro:
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
OK, you're right. Anything can happen. This isn't basketball. Why do you have to bring this up? I already admitted they could win 1 out of a million times. Jeez, why do you have to rub the odds point thing in. Get off your stool. Ask yourself this: Would bet your life that they could win 1 out of a hundred? Seriously
 
From the pay content Henry/MaGahee Spotlight

"McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams"

Do you really think that Miami could beat an NFL team? That is wack.    Miami is a phenomonal  college program and it produces many quality NFL players but there is no way that it could beat an NFL team.  NFL teams are the best of the best from every college in the country.  Making statements like this make me question your whole vewpoint.  Why was this in here?

:fro:
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
OK, you're right. Anything can happen. This isn't basketball. Why do you have to bring this up? I already admitted they could win 1 out of a million times. Jeez, why do you have to rub the odds point thing in. Get off your stool. Ask yourself this: Would bet your life that they could win 1 out of a hundred? Seriously
I would never bet my life on a football game. The original poster never said he would either. I did however bet 100 bucks on Buster Douglas to upset Tyson though! Who woulda thought fat slow Douglas woulda beaten All world Iron Mike? Upsets happen all the time. Don't they? --just nod your head :yes: I think you are missing one key part where the writer says possibly! He doesn't say definitely. How big of you to admit Miami could win once in a million. Looks like you are moving away from your rigid stance and that may restore some of your cred.

I also think it is fair to compare the basketball game to what you are saying. Professional basketball is incredibly tough. For Puerta Rico to absolutely embarass us by 20 points ??? Would you have bet your life on that never happening?

All I'm saying is don't shoot a guy in the back of the neck because he thinks the college team in Miami could POSSIBLY beat an NFL team. Heck the way the Falcons played without Vick and the Raiders without Rich I could definitely see it happening more than 1 in 100.

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I think that Coach Coughlin would say that Miami would stand a chance to win since he thinks that the Giants couldn't beat a high school team (clipped from article on NorthJersey.com):

His intention, however, was not to end practice early. Instead he ripped

into the players with a profanity-laced bombastic tirade. He warned them

that they were headed for a national TV game Thursday night at Carolina,

and they "couldn't beat a high school team" the way they were practicing.

He told them they looked terrible and had better get their butts going.
:D
 
How about the 76 Pitt Panthers or 77 Noterdame squad against the 76-77 Buc 0-26 remember.John McCay was asked about the execution of his team one game and he said he was in favor of it.

 
From the pay content Henry/MaGahee Spotlight

"McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams"

Do you really think that Miami could beat an NFL team? That is wack.    Miami is a phenomonal  college program and it produces many quality NFL players but there is no way that it could beat an NFL team.  NFL teams are the best of the best from every college in the country.  Making statements like this make me question your whole vewpoint.  Why was this in here?

:fro:
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
OK, you're right. Anything can happen. This isn't basketball. Why do you have to bring this up? I already admitted they could win 1 out of a million times. Jeez, why do you have to rub the odds point thing in. Get off your stool. Ask yourself this: Would bet your life that they could win 1 out of a hundred? Seriously
It might be worth it if you actually got to see Miami lose 100 times. Would you bet your life that they wouldn't win even one out of those 100 games?

 
"There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago."
Don't think so...the underclassmen being drafted doesn't support your point.
 
"There is a larger gap between the NFL players and collegiate players of today than there was many years ago."
Don't think so...
Of course RAIDERNATION is right. Many years ago, pro football players were just regular guys who pumped gas in the offseason. They weren't the best athletes in the world like they are now. (Of course, college football players were just regular guys as well, but they were on much more even footing with their professional counterparts.)
 
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but they were also playing the NFL CHAMPIONS and not the lowly Chargers or Cardinals.
There's really not a huge difference between any two NFL teams. Even between the Patriots and the Chargers, the Vegas spread would be two touchdowns at most.
 
This is going round and round because you (YUDKIN) refuse to admit your statement is just so absolutely stupid to anyone who knows anything about football.Instead you try to defend it with examples of Basketball games with head-case millionaires and Hockey game movies based on the greatest upset in recent sports history (to the USA anyway).You name 'cane skill players one after the other - you tout the large number of 'canes D players in the NFL today.As RaiderNation has tried to hammer home on you - IT'S THE LINE DOMINATION DUMMY!!!!!! I'm insulting you so you take notice to the statement. You seem to keep missing the point. I realize the O and D lines are not big players in FANTASY sports, but in the REAL game – the big guys in front are the key to all success of an NFL team.Vilma, Sean Taylor, whoever does not matter because they'll just throw on the weaker UM corners or run to the weaker LB on the D.On offense, the WRs won't leave the line and the holes for the backs will not open. The QB would get zero time to throw.Go compare the physical stats if you want - NO COLLEGE LINE can compete on the NFL level. It would be physical and mental domination. The pros are bigger, faster, better, and more mature.There is No 'Could possibly win' side to this argument unless the entire NFL squad went down with a nasty case of mono or something.To continue to stick by your words here has your credibility sinking faster than the titanic. I could care less what you wrote on these boards over the years.... what I do know is your recent staff work has had more than a few holes in it – “exclamated” by the very large load of BS statement in the McGahee player spotlight.Why don't you just admit you were wrong?

 
From the pay content Henry/MaGahee Spotlight

"McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams"

Do you really think that Miami could beat an NFL team? That is wack.    Miami is a phenomonal  college program and it produces many quality NFL players but there is no way that it could beat an NFL team.  NFL teams are the best of the best from every college in the country.  Making statements like this make me question your whole vewpoint.  Why was this in here?

:fro:
I guess the NBA could never get beaten by Puerto Rico either??? Fro, if anyone has lost cred it is you. Maybe you have spent too much time in the Free for All and have lost your mind. ANYTHING can and does happen in sports and life in general!
OK, you're right. Anything can happen. This isn't basketball. Why do you have to bring this up? I already admitted they could win 1 out of a million times. Jeez, why do you have to rub the odds point thing in. Get off your stool. Ask yourself this: Would bet your life that they could win 1 out of a hundred? Seriously
It might be worth it if you actually got to see Miami lose 100 times. Would you bet your life that they wouldn't win even one out of those 100 games?
If I had to bet my life, I would bet that the NFL teams would win 100 out of 100 times. If I had to bet my life, I would bet that the college team would win one out of a millon. The laws of probability say this.
 
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I would never bet my life on a football game.
No chit, Why would anyone bet their life on a football game. I said it to prove a point: If you had to bet your life, would say that Miami could beat an NFL team 1 out of a hundred times, in the scenerio that has been described repeatedly in this thread?
I did however bet 100 bucks on Buster Douglas to upset Tyson though! Who woulda thought fat slow Douglas woulda beaten All world Iron Mike? Upsets happen all the time. Don't they? --just nod your head :yes:
Nice ego stroker. What does this have to do with anything? Upsets do happen all the time, agreed. How does this realate to football?
I think you are missing one key part where the writer says possibly! He doesn't say definitely. How big of you to admit Miami could win once in a million. Looks like you are moving away from your rigid stance and that may restore some of your cred.
You are purly trying to discredit me instead of sticking with the debate I'm trying to spark. Give me some football facts. I said one in a millon as a joke, chief. I see a number of people support my argument here and very view compelling arguments in this thread that say that a college team could win, yours being the least convincing.
I also think it is fair to compare the basketball game to what you are saying. Professional basketball is incredibly tough. For Puerta Rico to absolutely embarass us by 20 points ??? Would you have bet your life on that never happening?
Basketball, not Pro Basketball, is also not fair to compare. A group of 1 armed players could feasibly beat a pro team if they never missed a shot. There are only 10-12 people on a hoops team compared 50 + on a football team. So you need many more talented players. Again, your resorting to the "Upsets happen" argument which provides no real value to the debate. Read this article and you may be able to see why Puerto Rico could win. http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2638592
All I'm saying is don't shoot a guy in the back of the neck because he thinks the college team in Miami could POSSIBLY beat an NFL team. Heck the way the Falcons played without Vick and the Raiders without Rich I could definitely see it happening more than 1 in 100.
If you read the whole thread instead of stricktly trying to discredit me, you would see that I admitted earlier that I could of been more tactful in bringing up this point to David. But the purpose was to spark an thread about if a college team could beat a pro team not to flame David. You on the other hand have jumped in the thread to srtictly flame me instead of adding to the discussion. So puhleeese, explaine to me why you think a college team could beat a pro team instead of giving me lame not footballrelated upsets and hot air.
 
What is particularly disturbing is the number of staff members who support the notion that Miami would have a chance of winning and some of the arguments they put forth to try and support this. Stuart

I feel reasonably confident that USC last year could have beaten on the Giants team that lost 45-7 to the Saints last year.
They gave up 45 points to another NFL team, not a college team. It's not the same as giving up 21 to Temple or being down 17-14 in the 4th to Rutgers. It's another team of pros! How many of their rookies from the prior year's team started last year in the NFL? Zero. 0-5. Giants would absolutely kill them.Wimer
FWIW, Coach Coughlin said today that the Giants' couldn't beat a High School team the way they've been practicing, so presumably he would agree with David that they would be liable to losing to a college team right now, too.
Certainly you don't believe Coughlin really believes this. He obviously is using a metaphor, which I'm sure Yudkin meant to do originally also, which Jason Wood immediately suggested (thank you for the sane view). Yet, the staff, for some reason, wants to argue that they would somehow really be competitive. Rudnicki
A similar debate is often waged when wondering how the lowest ranked men's tennis player would do against the #1 women's player. Chances are the man would dominate, but Serena probably could take a game or two at least.
Um, winning a game in tennis is like scoring a point in football. Nobody said Miami couldn't score a point. Serena couldn't win the match and Miami couldn't win the game.Yudkin
On the other side of the ball, Miami had Dorsey, McGahee, Winslow, and Andre Johnson to go up against a defense that allowed 452 points last year.
Once again, that was against other NFL teams. That averages out to 28.25 pts per game, against the NFL. Miami gave up 19.1 in 2002 against other College teams. They also gave up a whopping 169 yards per game rushing in a schedule which included powerhouse colleges such as Florida A&M (155 yds), Temple (222), Connecticut (190), and Rutgers (200). Does anyone really think that an NFL wouldn't rush for 400+ yards against them?Tremblay and Wood have been the only sane staff members in this debate. It really does make you wonder about rookie projections.
 
hyperbole

\Hy*per"bo*le\, n. (Rhet.) A figure of speech in which the expression is an evident exaggeration of the meaning intended to be conveyed, or by which things are represented as much greater or less, better or worse, than they really are; a statement exaggerated fancifully, through excitement, or for effect.

 
As RaiderNation has tried to hammer home on you - IT'S THE LINE DOMINATION DUMMY!!!!!! I'm insulting you so you take notice to the statement. You seem to keep missing the point. I realize the O and D lines are not big players in FANTASY sports, but in the REAL game – the big guys in front are the key to all success of an NFL team.
If you took the time to read some of what I wrote in this thread, I already said that line play was the biggest issue for a college team:
Whether Miami could have stopped a mammoth line trying to run the ball is where things get dicey.A case could be made that a team comprised of marginal NFL pros is still way better than a college team with half top college players and half average college players.
Thanks for taking time to read what I wrote and for your interest in the FBG site. Where else can so many people get so much entertainment for so little cost?For the umpteenth time, I never said Miami WOULD beat an NFL team, I said they COULD POSSIBLY. Is it LIKELY that the college team would win? No. COULD a college team beat a pro team? Probably not. Is it in any, way, shape or form POSSIBLE that a college team could beat a pro team? Highly unlikely, but I still think it's POSSIBLE. But we'll never know, as all this is hypothetical.
 
Ive got to say this is the most enjoyable thread I have read in this forum.Ive spent so much time reading the replys my wife has threatned to take a sledge hammer to my computer.I know the forum is free but the subscription price Ive paid the last two years is probably the best entertainment and info dollars I have ever spent. :D

 
Ive got to say this is the most enjoyable thread I have read in this forum.Ive spent so much time reading the replys my wife has threatned to take a sledge hammer to my computer.I know the forum is free but the subscription price Ive paid the last two years is probably the best entertainment and info dollars I have ever spent. :D
I have to agree on this one. Who knew that however many weeks ago when I was working on the Player Spotlight for the Bills RB situation that what I viewed as a toss-in comment in passing (that UM "could possibly" beat the worst NFL team) could illicit such a response in a message board post?The funny part is, I doubt that I could INTENTIONALLY include something in an article that could spark a thread that could get almost 2,500 people to look at it.Another funny thing here is that my opinion that the NFL would win 99 times out of a 100 times IS SO FAR FROM THE OTHERS that think they would win 100 times out of a 100. My opinion, therefore, is 1% different than the others. I suppose wars have started over issues more trivial than this.From my persoective, I could come up with AT LEAST 100 things that I have written that were more inflammatory, stupid, or factually not 100% correct, yet over this one I have become FBG's equivalent of John Rocker.Hopefully, Joe and David got more new subscribers than they lost on this one.
 
The funny part is, I doubt that I could INTENTIONALLY include something in an article that could spark a thread that could get almost 2,500 people to look at it.
You could include revealing pics of Jason Sehorn's wife. I'd be responsible for 2,500 page views myself.
 
The funny part is, I doubt that I could INTENTIONALLY include something in an article that could spark a thread that could get almost 2,500 people to look at it.
The funny part is, I keep coming back to see just how outragous the post can get in here. Not on your part David. This has got to be one of the most over blown tid bits of a post/article I have ever seen around here. Talk about puttin words in someone elses mouth. :lol:
 
This is going round and round because you (YUDKIN) refuse to admit your statement is just so absolutely stupid to anyone who knows anything about football.There is No 'Could possibly win' side to this argument unless the entire NFL squad went down with a nasty case of mono or something.To continue to stick by your words here has your credibility sinking faster than the titanic.  I could care less what you wrote on these boards over the years.... what I do know is your recent staff work has had more than a few holes in it – “exclamated” by the very large load of BS statement in the McGahee player spotlight.Why don't you just admit you were wrong?
hi.overreact much?btw, if you agree that Miami COULD beat an NFL team that came down with a case of mono or food poisoning, that would validate David's statement that it COULD POSSIBLY happen. you now have voiced agreement with his suggestion.thanks for playing.game.set.match.HTH.
 
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This is going round and round because you (YUDKIN) refuse to admit your statement is just so absolutely stupid to anyone who knows anything about football.There is No 'Could possibly win' side to this argument unless the entire NFL squad went down with a nasty case of mono or something.To continue to stick by your words here has your credibility sinking faster than the titanic.  I could care less what you wrote on these boards over the years.... what I do know is your recent staff work has had more than a few holes in it – “exclamated” by the very large load of BS statement in the McGahee player spotlight.Why don't you just admit you were wrong?
hi.overreact much?btw, if you agree that Miami COULD beat an NFL team that came down with a case of mono or food poisoning, that would validate David's statement that it COULD POSSIBLY happen. you now have voiced agreement with his suggestion.thanks for playing.game.set.match.HTH.
Uh, no.Yudkin's point was to put Miami on par with the bottom tier of the NFL. In his first post he stated:"Yes, I do think that the better Miami teams would stand a legit shot against the poorer NFL teams."He's not saying that they will win 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 (He's backpedaled into that stance.) He said that Miami could compete. And in my opinion, that is a stupid statement.I don't respect Yudkin's knowledge of football. Period.
 
This is going round and round because you (YUDKIN) refuse to admit your statement is just so absolutely stupid to anyone who knows anything about football.There is No 'Could possibly win' side to this argument unless the entire NFL squad went down with a nasty case of mono or something.To continue to stick by your words here has your credibility sinking faster than the titanic.  I could care less what you wrote on these boards over the years.... what I do know is your recent staff work has had more than a few holes in it – “exclamated” by the very large load of BS statement in the McGahee player spotlight.Why don't you just admit you were wrong?
hi.overreact much?btw, if you agree that Miami COULD beat an NFL team that came down with a case of mono or food poisoning, that would validate David's statement that it COULD POSSIBLY happen. you now have voiced agreement with his suggestion.thanks for playing.game.set.match.HTH.
Uh, no.Yudkin's point was to put Miami on par with the bottom tier of the NFL. In his first post he stated:"Yes, I do think that the better Miami teams would stand a legit shot against the poorer NFL teams."He's not saying that they will win 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 (He's backpedaled into that stance.) He said that Miami could compete. And in my opinion, that is a stupid statement.I don't respect Yudkin's knowledge of football. Period.
I agree that he's backpedeled into that stance and that was not his intention when writing the article.
 
Uh, no.

Yudkin's point was to put Miami on par with the bottom tier of the NFL. In his first post he stated:

"Yes, I do think that the better Miami teams would stand a legit shot against the poorer NFL teams."

He's not saying that they will win 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 (He's backpedaled into that stance.) He said that Miami could compete. And in my opinion, that is a stupid statement.

I don't respect Yudkin's knowledge of football. Period.
Well thank you for sharing with us your infinite knowledge of being able to interpret words and phrases even better than that of what the original author claims them to have ment. I guess there is no need for us to listen to any other opinions on this board except for that of yours now. I am awstruck in your ability to decipher this phrase with such insite:
McGahee only had one huge season in college on a team that could possibly beat some NFL teams
Please delete the qoute if it is not alowed mods.
 
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I don't respect Yudkin's knowledge of football.  Period.
:rolleyes:
I don't respect Rudnicki's knowledge of football. Period.
:eek: I don't respect Capella's knowledge of the law. Period.
I don't respect Capella's knowledge of the law either. Period.
I don't respect Capella's choice of avatars. Period.
I don't respect a city that is home to 4-time Super Bowl losers and the "no-goal" game. Period. :pickle:
 

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