DE Chase Young, NO (2 Viewers)

[Da Franchise]

I keep seeing all these tweets from the local beat writers and every last one of them fails to mention the franchise tag is only about $2.5M more than the 5th year option.

If he plays well, he’ll get the tag and they’ll work out a deal. Ya know, like they just did with Payne. If he plays poorly, they can choose to let him walk or maybe work out a reasonable “prove it” deal to keep him. If his performance falls in the middle and there are still questions, well, there’s a lot of ways it can go.

This was the right move and the local media is driving me absolutely insane not talking about the tag more.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Commanders declining DE Chase Young's fifth-year option

Wow.
Have to imagine he'll be the top FA next year.

 

[Faust]

Commanders' Chase Young: 'I'm feeling explosive again' entering pivotal 2023 season

 

[Ilov80s]

Such a good example of how quickly things can change in the NFL and how difficult (and lucky) it is become a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player. After his rookie year, he seemed poise to become the next great DE. Now at age 24, he's kind of in a make or break year.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Such a good example of how quickly things can change in the NFL and how difficult (and lucky) it is become a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player. After his rookie year, he seemed poise to become the next great DE. Now at age 24, he's kind of in a make or break year.

I remember being pissed that lions got stuck one spot behind him, thought he was really going to be something. Still better than Jeff O. though.

 

[Ilov80s]

Such a good example of how quickly things can change in the NFL and how difficult (and lucky) it is become a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player. After his rookie year, he seemed poise to become the next great DE. Now at age 24, he's kind of in a make or break year.

I remember being pissed that lions got stuck one spot behind him, thought he was really going to be something. Still better than Jeff O. though.

Absolutely, I was so freaking pissed we missed him. I thought he was a surefire star. He might still be- that knee injury just really set him way behind. Sounds like it was far worse than the typical acl.

 

[dmac37]

Washington DST may be a really good fantasy play this year with the D line they have.

 

[travdogg]

Washington DST may be a really good fantasy play this year with the D line they have.

They'd probably be a top-5 defense if they were in a different division.

 

[Faust]

The Athletic’s Ben Standig reports Chase Young will consult a doctor after not being cleared for contact following a “stinger” injury suffered in the team’s first preseason game.

We know very little about this “stinger” Young is dealing with right now, other than it is a neurological injury that is not related to the torn ACL he suffered in 2021, as Ben Standig pointed out. Head coach Ron Rivera has avoided answering questions about Young’s injury over the last several days, but more could be disclosed on his injury when the team releases its first injury report next week. Young appears to be trending on the wrong side of playing in Week 1 against the Cardinals, but he still has 10 days to get right.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

SOFT

 

[Largent]

trade block "injury"

 

[Faust]

'Been a long time coming': Chase Young returns with 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL vs. Broncos

 

[Faust]

Commanders trading DE Chase Young to 49ers for 2024 third-round pick

 

[Faust]

WHAT'S UP WITH CHASE YOUNG

The Commanders FLEECED The Niners In The Chase Young Deal

49ers considering benching star defensive lineman for the Super Bowl due to lack of effort

Did Chase Young just seal his fate with 49ers on this terrible play vs. Lions?

 

[Wingnut]

Yeah he sucks

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah he sucks

Pathetic effort on the Gibbs TD for sure

 

[kface]

hot garbage and has been since he got to the 49ers

You would think because he is looking for his next huge contract he would be playing his heart out

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

 

[fantasycurse42]

No better than Randy Gregory, but at least he tries.

 

[Da Guru]

After watching Young he either has slowed down quite a bit or just not giving 100%.

Can`t see Young getting a big $$$ long term deal. Might have to take a one year prove it deal.

 

[fantasycurse42]

After watching Young he either has slowed down quite a bit or just not giving 100%.

Can`t see Young getting a big $$$ long term deal. Might have to take a one year prove it deal.

If he can’t do it across from Bosa, he can’t do it.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Imagine giving him a big contract, you’d have to be a moron!!

I’m sure after he gets a big bucket of money, that’s when he’ll really show up!

 

[fred_1_15301]

Now granted that one play that was linked was just one play and may not represent his capabilities/desire. But oh boy that was a really bad look. It was the most important game of the guy’s career and he just flat out quit. I don’t want my team taking a gamble on him.

 

[Terpman22]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

 

[Wingnut]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

 

[efactor]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

49ers couldn’t run wide on Sunday because the Lions DE’s we’re doing a great job of setting the edge. Pretty simple. Young got sucked inside all game and Bosa got fooled on a couple misdirection plays.

On a positive note, the Chiefs don’t run wide much but expect Fat Andy to dial up more jet sweeps than normal in two weeks after watching that film.

 

[Terpman22]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

I think sometimes, we just forget a lot of these guys play football b/c it was their way to get rich/make a lot of money. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

I think sometimes, we just forget a lot of these guys play football b/c it was their way to get rich/make a lot of money. Nothing more nothing less.

All he had to do was put in massive effort for a few months and he would've gotten generational money... He'll never get that payday now. I figured with the opportunity he was granted, we would've gotten the best 8-10 games out of him in his career, man was I wrong.

 

[Terpman22]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

I think sometimes, we just forget a lot of these guys play football b/c it was their way to get rich/make a lot of money. Nothing more nothing less.

All he had to do was put in massive effort for a few months and he would've gotten generational money... He'll never get that payday now. I figured with the opportunity he was granted, we would've gotten the best 8-10 games out of him in his career, man was I wrong.

He was drafted 2nd overall, signed a 4 year $34M contract. I grew up poor personally, so maybe we have different definitions of generational wealth. $34M would definitely qualify as generational wealth for me.

My point though is - he probably already feels like "He made it" He'll still get another contract, but probably not the 4/$100M stuff that defensive linemen are getting these days.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

Dude got gifted a new start on a contender, I thought he might actually make an effort.

I think sometimes, we just forget a lot of these guys play football b/c it was their way to get rich/make a lot of money. Nothing more nothing less.

All he had to do was put in massive effort for a few months and he would've gotten generational money... He'll never get that payday now. I figured with the opportunity he was granted, we would've gotten the best 8-10 games out of him in his career, man was I wrong.

He was drafted 2nd overall, signed a 4 year $34M contract. I grew up poor personally, so maybe we have different definitions of generational wealth. $34M would definitely qualify as generational wealth for me.

My point though is - he probably already feels like "He made it" He'll still get another contract, but probably not the 4/$100M stuff that defensive linemen are getting these days.

I grew up poor as well. To me, generational wealth is something that basically means your lineage for generations is super rich. $34mm is a lot on the surface, but when you dive deeper, I don’t think it meets the criteria of what I was discussing. He could’ve earned a 9 figure contract, that would’ve gotten him there.

DC has a large tax rate, plus he’s in the top tax bracket, plus paying an agent. Let’s just say he netted $17-$19mm. He’ll never earn anything remotely close to that, and has a lifestyle I’m sure he’s now accustomed to. Idk if that money even lasts his lifetime, yet alone for generations. He could’ve had that generational wealth just by putting in a few months of top notch effort, he didn’t. He should never be paid bc you now know what you’ll be getting if you do pay him.

That’s kind of my point.

 

[Fat Nick]

Honestly, he's a guy I never quite understood. His 1st year in Washington was great. He was a positive team presence, his attitude was great, everything was clicking. He hits one little snag and the guy is literally JAG all of a sudden. You don't go from that good to JAG without literally putting in ZERO effort. I knew Sweat was the better DE for us to keep, but I was happy with what we got for Sweat. Initially I thought we got fleeced by the '9ers in the Young deal because I thought he might be tanking to get traded, but man...he's just lazy.

 

[Bri]

The best thing that could happen to him now is to test the free agent market, get a rude awakening, and start training/change his dedication

 

[travdogg]

I think he's a solid #2 pass rusher. He's never really been able to fully get back to where he looked like he was gonna be, but I think there is an overcorrection going on when people call him JAG.

In a lot of ways, I think he's another Clowney. Not living up to the draft position, but a perfectly fine starter. Also like Clowney, I'm expecting him to probably be a 1 year offer guy, at least this offseason.

FA is pretty deep at EDGE this offseason, though I'm expecting none of Allen, Burns, or Hunter to actually hit the market, there is still a lot form teams to choose from, and most guys don't have Young's injury history or price tag. On the other hand, they don't have his youth either.

 

[efactor]

I think he's a solid #2 pass rusher. He's never really been able to fully get back to where he looked like he was gonna be, but I think there is an overcorrection going on when people call him JAG.

In a lot of ways, I think he's another Clowney. Not living up to the draft position, but a perfectly fine starter. Also like Clowney, I'm expecting him to probably be a 1 year offer guy, at least this offseason.

FA is pretty deep at EDGE this offseason, though I'm expecting none of Allen, Burns, or Hunter to actually hit the market, there is still a lot form teams to choose from, and most guys don't have Young's injury history or price tag. On the other hand, they don't have his youth either.

Funny you bring up Clowney because he was doing the same thing Young was doing on Sunday, getting pushed inside and not setting the edge. Guess they don't understand the edge in "edge".

Plus Young isn't getting many pressures and hasn't had a sack since week 11 (he did have a couple 1/2 sacks). Ferrell wasn't flashy but they really miss him.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I think he's a solid #2 pass rusher. He's never really been able to fully get back to where he looked like he was gonna be, but I think there is an overcorrection going on when people call him JAG.

He’s absolutely JAG! I think everyone in Niners thread who watch every play of every game universally agree on this. It’s rare an entire thread of fans agree on something. Does he have the potential to be more? Of course, he just doesn’t have the work ethic though. And if being on the final year of your rookie deal doesn’t do it, nothing will!

What are your thoughts on a 32 year old Randy Gregory? I don’t see Young give much more to front 4 than Gregory and Gregory is JAG at this point.

His wake up call should’ve been Washington punting him and knowing that 5th year option is dead. Then he gets paired up with his old college teammate that just signed a monster deal, while surrounded by talent and he’s still done zero.

Even if he led the league in sacks next year, I wouldn’t pay him if I was a GM. Him collecting a big contract would be like a Haynesworth situation imo.

 

[travdogg]

I think he's a solid #2 pass rusher. He's never really been able to fully get back to where he looked like he was gonna be, but I think there is an overcorrection going on when people call him JAG.

In a lot of ways, I think he's another Clowney. Not living up to the draft position, but a perfectly fine starter. Also like Clowney, I'm expecting him to probably be a 1 year offer guy, at least this offseason.

FA is pretty deep at EDGE this offseason, though I'm expecting none of Allen, Burns, or Hunter to actually hit the market, there is still a lot form teams to choose from, and most guys don't have Young's injury history or price tag. On the other hand, they don't have his youth either.

Funny you bring up Clowney because he was doing the same thing Young was doing on Sunday, getting pushed inside and not setting the edge. Guess they don't understand the edge in "edge".

Plus Young isn't getting many pressures and hasn't had a sack since week 11 (he did have a couple 1/2 sacks). Ferrell wasn't flashy but they really miss him.

I think he's a solid #2 pass rusher. He's never really been able to fully get back to where he looked like he was gonna be, but I think there is an overcorrection going on when people call him JAG.

He’s absolutely JAG! I think everyone in Niners thread who watch every play of every game universally agree on this. It’s rare an entire thread of fans agree on something. Does he have the potential to be more? Of course, he just doesn’t have the work ethic though. And if being on the final year of your rookie deal doesn’t do it, nothing will!

What are your thoughts on a 32 year old Randy Gregory? I don’t see Young give much more to front 4 than Gregory and Gregory is JAG at this point.

His wake up call should’ve been Washington punting him and knowing that 5th year option is dead. Then he gets paired up with his old college teammate that just signed a monster deal, while surrounded by talent and he’s still done zero.

Even if he led the league in sacks next year, I wouldn’t pay him if I was a GM. Him collecting a big contract would be like a Haynesworth situation imo.

I guess I'm gonna disagree with the majority then. Young has been an upgrade for SF, and been worth what they gave up for him, which is roughly the 95th pick. If you expectation was #2 overall pick level player, then yeah, he's been a bust for them, but that's an expectation problem. Frankly, I thought he never should have been the #2 pick, but that's a very old argument.

Young didn't play well against Detroit, no debate there, I'd argue none of the DL did except for Bosa. I thought Young was solid against GB, where the Packers were having much more success running at Bosa. Young has clearly been better than Gregory. He's been better against both the run and the pass. Young has been better than Farrell too. I can only conclude its been an expectations problem. Young has been a decent pass rusher and a solid run defender since the trade. I think its just recency bias as the Lions game was his worst game. Young has been used differently in SF than he was in Washington. He was a pass rusher 1st in Washington, in SF, I think he's asked to hold the edge a lot more, which probably isn't playing to his strengths.

Young is a #2 EDGE guy. He's not a special player, but JAG is a bridge too far. I do agree with occasional effort issues, and Clowney has that same issue, but I'd be happy to sign Young in the offseason, though ideally on a one year deal, I doubt it will be in SF, as I imagine the offseason priority will be extending Aiyuk. On the A-F scale, Young is probably a C. I'd call Gregory a D, Farrell a D-, and Bosa an A-.

 

[Wingnut]

Ferrell was pretty good at setting the edge, not having him is a big blow.

Id grade the Ferrell signing as a B and Young a C-

 

[efactor]

Ferrell was pretty good at setting the edge, not having him is a big blow.

Id grade the Ferrell signing as a B and Young a C-

Agree

Ferrell was an excellent signing. Not flashy but there is a reason he was starting.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Ferrell was pretty good at setting the edge, not having him is a big blow.

Id grade the Ferrell signing as a B and Young a C-

You can debate Young versus Gregory. Neither really has done much. I’d happily not dress either if it meant Ferrell playing. He was solid before getting hurt. I agree with this assessment.

He’s not a #2 pass rusher as the previous poster alluded to, that’s not even debatable. Your #2 gets you 2 sacks on the season, your defense is in trouble. His run defense is a joke, so if he isn’t getting pressures and sacks, he’s useless.

 

[fantasycurse42]

It’s interesting, the quote above says “if you expected number 2 pick production.”

When I think about it, not even sure I make the trade for the 95th pick in hindsight. Guy is an outright liability on the field. You’d figure pairing up on a stud defense, with as much to play for as almost any defender in the NFL, he would’ve come to ball. This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

 

[efactor]

It’s interesting, the quote above says “if you expected number 2 pick production.”

When I think about it, not even sure I make the trade for the 95th pick in hindsight. Guy is an outright liability on the field. You’d figure pairing up on a stud defense, with as much to play for as almost any defender in the NFL, he would’ve come to ball. This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

To me, it seems like he is chasing stats (sacks) for his next contract. Gross how easily he gets sucked inside. I was surprised that Detroit didn’t keep attacking the edge on his side.

All will be forgiven if he has a strong Super Bowl.

 

[Wingnut]

This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

I'd be shocked if he only played that many. In the last 3 games, Young has played 57 snaps vs Rams, 45 vs Packers, and 56 vs Lions. We just don't have enough edge rushers to cut him down that much. I'd like to see what Beal Jr has, he's only been playing a few snaps per game.

We're down to Bosa, Young, Beal, and Gregory as our only 4 true edge guys with Ferrell and Drake Jackson hurt. Not good.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

I'd be shocked if he only played that many. In the last 3 games, Young has played 57 snaps vs Rams, 45 vs Packers, and 56 vs Lions. We just don't have enough edge rushers to cut him down that much. I'd like to see what Beal Jr has, he's only been playing a few snaps per game.

We're down to Bosa, Young, Beal, and Gregory as our only 4 true edge guys with Ferrell and Drake Jackson hurt. Not good.

I agree - they don’t have the luxury of moving off of him in the SB.

Fortunately for the 49ers, Isiah Pacheco is not the speedy elusive guy that Gibbs is.

I am also optimistic that the flak he’s getting for his poor play is a wake-up call. He wasn’t this bad in WAS. He is capable of playing at a high level.

It’s really bizarre that he seems to take plays off or make half-hearted efforts.

Niners have 2 weeks to get his butt in gear. Let’s hope they can do it.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

I'd be shocked if he only played that many. In the last 3 games, Young has played 57 snaps vs Rams, 45 vs Packers, and 56 vs Lions. We just don't have enough edge rushers to cut him down that much. I'd like to see what Beal Jr has, he's only been playing a few snaps per game.

We're down to Bosa, Young, Beal, and Gregory as our only 4 true edge guys with Ferrell and Drake Jackson hurt. Not good.

Bosa needs to play every snap, it's the SB, everything you have. The other 3, I'd be fine with either a hot hand or fresh body, whichever is working. Young has been terrible.

 

[thecatch]

It’s interesting, the quote above says “if you expected number 2 pick production.”

When I think about it, not even sure I make the trade for the 95th pick in hindsight. Guy is an outright liability on the field. You’d figure pairing up on a stud defense, with as much to play for as almost any defender in the NFL, he would’ve come to ball. This trade did not work out how any of us hoped. I’d say he sees 12-15 snaps this game.

It was a bad trade, no question. A big part of the rationale for trading him is that the Niners would be getting a third round comp pick for him when he signs a big free agent deal somewhere else but I think there's virtually no chance of that now. He might even be cheap enough where SF brings him back as a rotational piece.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Same issues he had in Washington. He doesn’t push himself and he doesn’t play within the scheme.

Us NFC East guys tried to Tell Wingnut. He just didn't want to accept it.

This.

He has one move, bull rush. If it doesn’t work he just gives up and stands around.

I would be LIVID if I were his backup watching film.

 

[Wingnut]

I read something that said he doesn't trust his knee since the injury and he can't get over the mental hurdle.

Not a huge deal as SF didn't give much to get him as a rental, but it'd be nice to have a decent bookend for Bosa during this SB run.

 

[Wingnut]

49ers should have went after Sweat instead

 

[fantasycurse42]

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[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

49ers should have went after Sweat instead

Sweat is a monster

So is Jonathan Allen