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Opposite of the Claims thread, who are you putting on waivers after the first week?

A couple come to mind for me:

Marshawn Lynch... expected more from running game with Gallery + Cable defecting up north. Now getting pretty down on him as deadwood.

Chad Ochocinco... just waay too many targets in front of him. Could he have a great week(s), sure... but good luck picking which one. Deadwood.

Any more?

 
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'oldmoney said:
Opposite of the Claims thread, who are you putting on waivers after the first week?

A couple come to mind for me:

Marshawn Lynch... expected more from running game with Gallery + Cable defecting up north. Now getting pretty down on him as deadwood.

Chad Ochocinco... just waay too many targets in front of him. Could he have a great week(s), sure... but good luck picking which one. Deadwood.

Any more?
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Lynch? C'mon man, its week one, some guy cut him in both my leagues too. I wish I could say on here what i said out loud when I seen that. People under estimate the SF run D.
 
'oldmoney said:
Opposite of the Claims thread, who are you putting on waivers after the first week?

A couple come to mind for me:

Marshawn Lynch... expected more from running game with Gallery + Cable defecting up north. Now getting pretty down on him as deadwood.

Chad Ochocinco... just waay too many targets in front of him. Could he have a great week(s), sure... but good luck picking which one. Deadwood.

Any more?
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I wouldn't cut Lynch. Opportunity alone will get him some good games. With chad though, its sad but he's done. He's just a guy in that offense. He has as much impact as Matthew Slater. Which is to say minimal at best. I'd probably try to trade him on name value first but after that, WW for a better value.
 
This is the toughest part of the waiver wire for me. I don't play in extremely deep leagues and who to drop is always a challenge. I always wish people would slot their waiver wire suggestions with the established players they think will have similar production. For example, "Pick up X he will produce like Y". I understand that how much Y will produce is in question too but at least it gives you a comparison.

 
oakland passing game - ford, moore (dynasty keeper) - they will be lucky to avg 200 yds passing per game overall

 
'JuSt CuZ said:
Lynch? C'mon man, its week one, some guy cut him in both my leagues too. I wish I could say on here what i said out loud when I seen that. People under estimate the SF run D.
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I admittedly haven't watched the game yet, but it looks like Seahawks were in it up until Ginn put the game out of reach in the 4th. Here are Lynch's drive stats... call me :loco: but I expected more.Q1Drive 1rush 1 ydrush 1 ydrush 5 ydspass 12 ydsDrive 2nadaDrive 3rush 2 ydsrush -2 ydsQ2Drive 4rush -1 ydsDrive 5nadaDrive 6nadaQ3Drive 7pass 5 ydsrush 12 ydsrush 3 ydsDrive 8rush 4 ydsDrive 9rush 7 ydsrush -2 ydsrush 3 ydsrush 6 ydsrush 2 ydsQ4Drive 10 (score is now SF 19 - SEA 10)nadaDrive 11 (SF 19 - SEA 17)nadaDrive 12 (SF 26 - SEA 17)nadaDrive 13 (SF 33 - SEA 17)nada
 
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'oldmoney said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
Lynch? C'mon man, its week one, some guy cut him in both my leagues too. I wish I could say on here what i said out loud when I seen that. People under estimate the SF run D.
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I admittedly haven't watched the game yet, but it looks like Seahawks were in it up until Ginn put the game out of reach in the 4th. Wouldn't you expect more than?13 att/ 33 yards/2.5 YPA
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Yes. Tarvaris is awful. If Pete Carrol wants to continue coaching this time around, he'll lean on his running game to protect his hideous QB play. Lynch will have better games. This week in Pitt may not be one of them though with an angry Steeler team at home.
 
Between my three leagues, the only players I will drop this week are Jared Cook and Matt Cassell. Got each one late, and there seems to be more value out there on the WW at those particular positions (TE and QB).

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Anyone dropping Manning yet?Anyone considering dropping Colston? (maybe significantly longer than 4 week projection)
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Manning.....tough one. Depends on your other QB and what's on the WW. If you're QB is Stafford and you can get a decent player off the wire, I would probably gamble with Stafford, especially if you don't have deep benches.Absolutely don't drop Colston if you have the roster space. Wait it out.
 
Wow, there are a lot of names in this thread that I wouldn't think about dropping. For my team, the players who I would consider if a good waiver wire option was available (I'm not ready to waste my top claim position on anyone available this week) are...

1. Bernard Scott (I don't have Benson, so I'll probably be dropping him this week for a free agent pickup after waivers are over)

2. Jacoby Ford (not quite ready to throw in the towel yet, but if a good opportunity appeared I would let him go)

3. Daniel Thomas (doubt that I would be willing to drop him unless someone makes a stupid drop that I can take advantage of)

 
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Collie was my sleeper in every league (terrible, I know but we drafted before the Peyton news broke) and I'm finding him hard to trade or drop. Are we all ready to pull the plug on him for the year?

 
Wow, there are a lot of names in this thread that I wouldn't think about dropping. For my team, the players who I would consider if a good waiver wire option was available (I'm not ready to waste my top claim position on anyone available this week) are...

1. Bernard Scott (I don't have Benson, so I'll probably be dropping him this week for a free agent pickup after waivers are over)

2. Jacoby Ford (not quite ready to throw in the towel yet, but if a good opportunity appeared I would let him go)

3. Daniel Thomas (same situation as Ford)

 
'howo5 said:
Collie was my sleeper in every league (terrible, I know but we drafted before the Peyton news broke) and I'm finding him hard to trade or drop. Are we all ready to pull the plug on him for the year?
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Absolutely not. Unless, of course, your wire has more than Ealy Doucet and Devery Henderson available.
 
'ItsOnlytheRiver said:
Lot of over reaction going on in here. It might help to know who you guys are picking up for these players.
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See the waiver wire thread... at this point in the season, its about identifying (as early as possible) who you can cut so that you have room to maneuver the waiver wire. :)
 
I cut Matt Cassel for Cam Newton for his upside, Romo is my starter.

I also cut Demarco Murray, I didn't think he got enough touches, and if he becomes more relevant I can pick him up later probably. I got Cadillac Williams for him and will start him this week in one of my flex positions.

Next one to go will probably be Jared Cook for Dickson, Davis or Gresham, not rushing there yet, since I have Finley as my starter.

 
'oldmoney said:
'ItsOnlytheRiver said:
Lot of over reaction going on in here. It might help to know who you guys are picking up for these players.
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See the waiver wire thread... at this point in the season, its about identifying (as early as possible) who you can cut so that you have room to maneuver the waiver wire. :)
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I'm well aware of the waiver options, and it's pretty thin at WR so I'm not sure why anyone is getting rid of the WRs being discussed here.
 
'oldmoney said:
Opposite of the Claims thread, who are you putting on waivers after the first week?

A couple come to mind for me:

Marshawn Lynch... expected more from running game with Gallery + Cable defecting up north. Now getting pretty down on him as deadwood.

Chad Ochocinco... just waay too many targets in front of him. Could he have a great week(s), sure... but good luck picking which one. Deadwood.

Any more?
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Michael Crabtree. Too much suckage and his foot hurts again. Bye-bye.
 
Speaking of serious over-reactions, some guy in a 12 team league of mine dropped Jeremy Maclin. I'll gladly take those scraps.

 
'Mr. Chumley said:
'glong989 said:
'Sabertooth said:
Austin Collie
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Probably doing this in my league as well..I think he only has value with Peyton on the field. Not worth it to me to hold onto him that long.
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Same here. Also thinking of kicking Sims Walker to the curb but may hold on to him a little longer to see if he comes around.
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:confused: He was facing the Philly secondary. There are going to be a lot of WR's that die in that Black Hole this year.
 
Week 1 waivers are always the most difficult for me. You don't yet know what's an aberration or what's the beginning of a trend. The fact that Week 1 games are usually all over the place (witness the amount of scoring and blowouts) as teams settle in to the regular season make me think hard about some of the guys I had good feelings would emerge going into the draft, versus guys who seem to be emerging in Week 1.

A good example brought up in this thread is the Raiders WR. I have Ford and took a flier with Moore on the last pick of the draft. I see guys like Cobb, Gaffney and McCluster on the wire, WRs who emerged because of opportunity or just a solid Week 1 performance. I think these guys showed their upside, but I always find myself hesitant to make too many roster moves in week 1 out of fear for dropping a guy I think will still emerge and have value in favor of a potentially sporadic 1 week wonder.

I'm usually more comfortable with these decisions in Week 2 -- the problem is I risk losing out on a guy ahead of the curve.

How do others approach the situation?

 
'MDPapi said:
'oldmoney said:
Opposite of the Claims thread, who are you putting on waivers after the first week?

A couple come to mind for me:

Marshawn Lynch... expected more from running game with Gallery + Cable defecting up north. Now getting pretty down on him as deadwood.

Chad Ochocinco... just waay too many targets in front of him. Could he have a great week(s), sure... but good luck picking which one. Deadwood.

Any more?
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Michael Crabtree. Too much suckage and his foot hurts again. Bye-bye.
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Crabtree is being considered even in a dynasty league. His QB hates him (wide open in the back of the endzone and the pass goes to Davis) and his foot is not getting better.Miller, TE SEA is probably going to hit the wire as well. SEA seems like a good place to find a few IDP players but a wasteland for offensive players.

 
Eli Manning will get dropped by a bunch of people this week. I think he'll bounce back and end up finishing as a top 12 QB.

Joseph Addai and BenJarvus Green-Ellis will also get dropped by a few people. They're worth holding on to, for a while at least.

 
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'Stompin said:
How do others approach the situation?
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I think the trick is to distinguish what you saw versus what you didn't see. Subtle distinction and more difficult said than done. This tends towards cutting meh veterans and holding onto high upside that just hasn't flashed yet... hence, my initial deadwood targets of Lynch + Ocho.
 
Dropping Austin Collie and picking up Lance Moore.

Also, someone in my league dropped Ced Benson before week 1, so he will be a hot pickup this week. Thinking about dropping Brandon Jacobs or Jacoby Ford for him. We do a blind bid system for waiver wire pickups. Hoping maybe I can grab him with 5% of my budget.

 
'ItsOnlytheRiver said:
'howo5 said:
Collie was my sleeper in every league (terrible, I know but we drafted before the Peyton news broke) and I'm finding him hard to trade or drop. Are we all ready to pull the plug on him for the year?
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Absolutely not. Unless, of course, your wire has more than Ealy Doucet and Devery Henderson available.
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Too early. Collins doesn't have the complete playbook yet. This needs a couple of week more to sort out. Remember, they are going to be playing from behind a lot.
 
'Stompin said:
Week 1 waivers are always the most difficult for me. You don't yet know what's an aberration or what's the beginning of a trend. The fact that Week 1 games are usually all over the place (witness the amount of scoring and blowouts) as teams settle in to the regular season make me think hard about some of the guys I had good feelings would emerge going into the draft, versus guys who seem to be emerging in Week 1.A good example brought up in this thread is the Raiders WR. I have Ford and took a flier with Moore on the last pick of the draft. I see guys like Cobb, Gaffney and McCluster on the wire, WRs who emerged because of opportunity or just a solid Week 1 performance. I think these guys showed their upside, but I always find myself hesitant to make too many roster moves in week 1 out of fear for dropping a guy I think will still emerge and have value in favor of a potentially sporadic 1 week wonder.I'm usually more comfortable with these decisions in Week 2 -- the problem is I risk losing out on a guy ahead of the curve.How do others approach the situation?
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I always let upside be the determining factor. If I miss out on a steady producing ham & egger, so be it. Gaffney and McCallister don't inspire me to dump either Ford or Moore. Don't overreact to week #1 stats. The gameplan will eventually work in their favor, and you know Jason Campbell isn't going to typically throw for 100 yards every week. A guy like Cobb does seem intuiging though, because of his upside. James Jones is and always has been meh. Driver's on his last legs. If there is a situation you want a part of, it's the Green Bay passing offense.
 
QB: Not sure anyone looked bad enough or got injured to the point where I would drop them. If I had McNabb, though, I'd be letting him go right about now.

WR: Quite a few candidates. A lot of late® round flyers just didn't get going. Evans is safe on my squad for this week, as is Ford (OAK gameplan shifted once they had a lead). Moore can be dropped in redraft though. James Jones is the winner though.

RB: Outside of later picks, not much really to convince me on what to do. Ridley in NE seems the obvious. Torain is tempting to drop, but Shanny has a way of making last minute decisions. Anyone who drafted Donald Brown as a late round flyer can safely dump him.

TE: Too many good performances from ww guys to hold onto the likes of Cook, Miller, and Kendricks. I'd rather have someone who performed well in week 1 as a starter, hoping that it begins a trend, then someone who was non-existent.

 
I'm surprised that so many people are holding on to the Raider WRs. I'd rather take a flyer on a #3 WR on a good team than hold on to someone with a ceiling of 800 yards.

Besides, you could drop Ford this week and he'd probably still be available to re-acquire next week or the week after.

 
Yeah Jacoby Ford is getting dropped. I should have learned my lesson drafting a Raider WR at the end of the draft last season. Waste of a pick.

 
God, I can only pray that the Ford owners in my league think as impulsively as some of the people on this thread. I'd gladly take him off your hands.

 
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'Raiderfan32904 said:
Anyone dropping Manning yet?Anyone considering dropping Colston? (maybe significantly longer than 4 week projection)
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Manning.....tough one. Depends on your other QB and what's on the WW. If you're QB is Stafford and you can get a decent player off the wire, I would probably gamble with Stafford, especially if you don't have deep benches.Absolutely don't drop Colston if you have the roster space. Wait it out.
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Exactly my position in one of my leagues. Stafford with Manning as a backup. The original plan was Manning comes back around when Stafford gets knocked out for the season. But I dropped Manning. No way he's playing this year. Between the hideous record that the team will have by the time he's cleared and the risk/reward associated with coming back/giving himself more time to heal, it's a slam dunk right now that he's done for the season, afaic, if not his career. Now considering Fitzpatrick in both my leagues. A back-up for Stafford and a back-up for Big Ben who lost me a close game. I have a deep disdain for Roethisberger and I'm not comfortable having him on my team in any context. Fortunately, people in my league are smart enough to know that his value in spite of the bed-shtting he had Sunday.
 
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Now imagine you are in a 10 team auction/limited keeper league with just 3(three) free agent moves to use over the course of the season. No waiver wire pickup/flavor of the week.

Imagine there was THAT kind of importance attached to each add/drop you made.

:popcorn:

 
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