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[wudaben]

I've got some tough calls in one 12 team league, I ended up with L Evans as my #3 with 3 sleepers behind him in Little, A Roberts & D Moore. These 4 guys were all popular picks but several played against defenses with very good secondaries.

I'm going to dump D Moore first. I was surprised by the targets DHB received and he very nearly had another long gain up the sidelines and Ford is a definite part of this offense so I think Moore falls too far down to be useful. I know DHB has been a punchline so far in his career but the Raiders insist on staying with him and he looked fairly good last night...might be something there...

Roberts has 1 more target than Doucet, I'm going to hold another week and reevaluate.

Cincy had a very tough secondary in previous years so I'm going to wait and see how Little does in week 2 as well.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

God, I can only pray that the Ford owners in my league think as impulsively as some of the people on this thread. I'd gladly take him off your hands.

i won't be dropping Ford in the five leagues that I have him. I dropped Delone Carter for Kendall Hunter Also dropped Kerry Collins for Ed Dickson - I have Brady and Stafford picked up Collins hoping for some value from the Manning owner. Forget that, Owen Daniels unimpressive week 1 so worth the switch.Rest of my leagues are bbid wednesday/thursday so I'll take a hard look at them tomorrow.

 

[Acrobat7]

BMW! Trying to get Burleson instead.

 

[hoopvillian]

God, I can only pray that the Ford owners in my league think as impulsively as some of the people on this thread. I'd gladly take him off your hands.

Talk me into keeping ford. I watched the game, looked like they looked at him a few times at the beginning of the game and he disappeared off the map, and play calling list.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

God, I can only pray that the Ford owners in my league think as impulsively as some of the people on this thread. I'd gladly take him off your hands.

Talk me into keeping ford. I watched the game, looked like they looked at him a few times at the beginning of the game and he disappeared off the map, and play calling list.

had a hammy issue. Should be fine. It was his first game this off-season. He's rusty. They love Ford. Hue Jackson gushes whenever asked about any one receiver, you'd think he was his first born son. Ford when implemented correctly is going to be very involved. Think 80 catch ceiling. Can't stress enough the man-love that HueJax has for Ford.

 

[EBF]

The way the Pats work, I fully expect Ochocinco to get 20 catches for 300 yards next week.

 

[steelerfan1]

think i will be saying by to mr. greene of the jets.

could bite me but he just doesn't look like a "bellcow"

 

[cubbie5150]

James Jones is an easy choice.

In a league using blind bidding (no $0 bids, no true waiver wire), I am dropping Cassel to bid on both Henne & Grossman as my backup QB

 

[heckmanm]

Considering Sidney Rice or Colston, with Cobb available

 

[overkill94]

Dropped Bradford for Flacco as my back-up behind Roethlisberger - already considered them pretty equal going into the season, their respective week 1's made it an easy choice

Dropped Jared Cook for Aaron Hernandez in one league and Gronkowski in another - still have a feeling Cook will do well this year, but the options on the waiver wire were too good to pass up

Dropped Deji Karim for Jacoby Jones in a return yardage league - I don't have MJD and with the news of Walter being sidelined I figured Jones would be worth the gamble

 

[overkill94]

Considering Sidney Rice or Colston, with Cobb available

Unless it's a return yardage league there's no way I'd make the switch, even for Rice. Too many mouths to feed in GB for Cobb to have any sort of consistency.

 

[strifetoe]

Thinking about Jacoby Ford & Austin Collie.

Both made me look like jerks.

 

[joffer]

no one i drafted in the first 10 rounds. some of you are nuts

James Jones is the only one

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Thinking about Jacoby Ford & Austin Collie.Both made me look like jerks.

How does drafting even a terrible fantasy team make you look like a "jerks" as you say? Are you in this league to show your leaguemates that you aren't in fact a "jerks"? It's your team, who cares what anyone thinks about your team? (the reality is no one cares, whether your team is good or bad). And it certainly doesn't attach any character flaws to you in the process.

 

[strifetoe]

Thinking about Jacoby Ford & Austin Collie.Both made me look like jerks.

How does drafting even a terrible fantasy team make you look like a "jerks" as you say? Are you in this league to show your leaguemates that you aren't in fact a "jerks"? It's your team, who cares what anyone thinks about your team? (the reality is no one cares, whether your team is good or bad). And it certainly doesn't attach any character flaws to you in the process.

Thanks for the troll. It was an obvious analogy and hyperbole. Thanks Raiderfan32904, I am not infact a jerk because I started Jacoby Ford. Thanks. Thanks again.Thank you one more time.

 

[duaneok66]

Week 1 waivers are always the most difficult for me. You don't yet know what's an aberration or what's the beginning of a trend. The fact that Week 1 games are usually all over the place (witness the amount of scoring and blowouts) as teams settle in to the regular season make me think hard about some of the guys I had good feelings would emerge going into the draft, versus guys who seem to be emerging in Week 1.A good example brought up in this thread is the Raiders WR. I have Ford and took a flier with Moore on the last pick of the draft. I see guys like Cobb, Gaffney and McCluster on the wire, WRs who emerged because of opportunity or just a solid Week 1 performance. I think these guys showed their upside, but I always find myself hesitant to make too many roster moves in week 1 out of fear for dropping a guy I think will still emerge and have value in favor of a potentially sporadic 1 week wonder.I'm usually more comfortable with these decisions in Week 2 -- the problem is I risk losing out on a guy ahead of the curve.How do others approach the situation?

easily the best post of the week . . .I usually try and ignore week 1- seems stupid, but many a time a team comes up lame in Week 1 (tough matchup or just rusty) and the rest of the season is totally different . . .I look for FA after waivers and try to find guys that owners (IMO) dropped prematurely . . .

 

[glumpy]

Collie was my sleeper in every league (terrible, I know but we drafted before the Peyton news broke) and I'm finding him hard to trade or drop. Are we all ready to pull the plug on him for the year?

Absolutely not. Unless, of course, your wire has more than Ealy Doucet and Devery Henderson available.

Too early. Collins doesn't have the complete playbook yet. This needs a couple of week more to sort out. Remember, they are going to be playing from behind a lot.

Tough, tough call for me. Even with the complete playbook I wonder if he can make Collie relevant. Plus--we've got good choices on my wire. Despite that, I picked Collie WR3 as a flier for the upside and really don't need to play him for a few weeks so it's hard to give that up so soon.

 

[dagwood]

Week 1 waivers are always the most difficult for me. You don't yet know what's an aberration or what's the beginning of a trend. The fact that Week 1 games are usually all over the place (witness the amount of scoring and blowouts) as teams settle in to the regular season make me think hard about some of the guys I had good feelings would emerge going into the draft, versus guys who seem to be emerging in Week 1.A good example brought up in this thread is the Raiders WR. I have Ford and took a flier with Moore on the last pick of the draft. I see guys like Cobb, Gaffney and McCluster on the wire, WRs who emerged because of opportunity or just a solid Week 1 performance. I think these guys showed their upside, but I always find myself hesitant to make too many roster moves in week 1 out of fear for dropping a guy I think will still emerge and have value in favor of a potentially sporadic 1 week wonder.I'm usually more comfortable with these decisions in Week 2 -- the problem is I risk losing out on a guy ahead of the curve.How do others approach the situation?

easily the best post of the week . . .I usually try and ignore week 1- seems stupid, but many a time a team comes up lame in Week 1 (tough matchup or just rusty) and the rest of the season is totally different . . .I look for FA after waivers and try to find guys that owners (IMO) dropped prematurely . . .

Really depends on your individual situation. My main league has been together for a while and the owners are very savvy. You really have to take educated guesses to try to find those diamonds in the rough. If you wait until its confirmed that its a trend and not an aberration then you have to overpay to get him if you want him. I like to have one or two spots on the roster that I can gamble with. Pick him up now on the cheap. If its an aberration then I cut him in a couple weeks. Just the way I need to do it in my league. You need to know your competition.

 

[DoubleG]

I think Breaston is getting the old gtfo. I'd rather take a shot at a Saint or even maybe a Ram lottery ticket.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

no one i drafted in the first 10 rounds. some of you are nutsJames Jones is the only one

i would agree except for the leagues i am still suck with ryan williams because we don't have moves until after week 1.

 

[packersfan]

My league carries two kickers and we have free-agent bidding. I'm dumping Succup (my No. 2 kicker) and going after Novak or Kasay.

I'm among the many torn on Cook. Davis is the best TE available on the WW in my league and I really like him. But I also like Cook and have to believe Week 1 was an aberration. I think he's too talented not to get more involved in the passing game. So despite the fact I like Davis a lot I think I'm going to save my money and hang onto Cook and hope the upside shows itself - perhaps not this week, though, given the tough matchup.

 

[duaneok66]

My league carries two kickers and we have free-agent bidding. I'm dumping Succup (my No. 2 kicker) and going after Novak or Kasay. I'm among the many torn on Cook. Davis is the best TE available on the WW in my league and I really like him. But I also like Cook and have to believe Week 1 was an aberration. I think he's too talented not to get more involved in the passing game. So despite the fact I like Davis a lot I think I'm going to save my money and hang onto Cook and hope the upside shows itself - perhaps not this week, though, given the tough matchup.

Cook doesnt even start - I was stupid enough to start Cook over Gresham and didnt realize that Stevens started over Cook . . .

 

[th3f00l]

I have in to drop MSW for either Cobb or Deji Karim. I own MJD . My WRs are White, Marshall, Burres, Meachem, R. Williams, so I don't really see MSW breaking into the line-up. I like the hot hand or the handcuff better than the bench warmer.

*edit*

I have first and foremost Cam Newton for MSW. but I dont have high priority so I dont see that going through. I didn't draft a backup QB.

 

[FunkyTeaParty]

I get one move a week and I had Nate Kaeding so.......

 

[packersfan]

My league carries two kickers and we have free-agent bidding. I'm dumping Succup (my No. 2 kicker) and going after Novak or Kasay. I'm among the many torn on Cook. Davis is the best TE available on the WW in my league and I really like him. But I also like Cook and have to believe Week 1 was an aberration. I think he's too talented not to get more involved in the passing game. So despite the fact I like Davis a lot I think I'm going to save my money and hang onto Cook and hope the upside shows itself - perhaps not this week, though, given the tough matchup.

Cook doesnt even start - I was stupid enough to start Cook over Gresham and didnt realize that Stevens started over Cook . . .

Starting isn't as important as being involved in the passing game. I believe Cooley technically "started" for the Redskins. Cook obviously wasn't involved at all in Week 1 but he had a great preseason and in my opinion is very talented. I think as the season goes along he will be more involved. I'm not willing to bail based on one awful game even though I like Davis a lot as I said. Maybe I'll be kicking myself for this decision but right now I'm going to hold onto Cook and hope his talent wins out.

 

[duaneok66]

My league carries two kickers and we have free-agent bidding. I'm dumping Succup (my No. 2 kicker) and going after Novak or Kasay. I'm among the many torn on Cook. Davis is the best TE available on the WW in my league and I really like him. But I also like Cook and have to believe Week 1 was an aberration. I think he's too talented not to get more involved in the passing game. So despite the fact I like Davis a lot I think I'm going to save my money and hang onto Cook and hope the upside shows itself - perhaps not this week, though, given the tough matchup.

Cook doesnt even start - I was stupid enough to start Cook over Gresham and didnt realize that Stevens started over Cook . . .

Starting isn't as important as being involved in the passing game. I believe Cooley technically "started" for the Redskins. Cook obviously wasn't involved at all in Week 1 but he had a great preseason and in my opinion is very talented. I think as the season goes along he will be more involved. I'm not willing to bail based on one awful game even though I like Davis a lot as I said. Maybe I'll be kicking myself for this decision but right now I'm going to hold onto Cook and hope his talent wins out.

in some cases you are right - but I dont follow the Titans closely (obviously since I flubbed up) but you have to ask WHY he isnt starting . . . its probably because he has blocking issues - I watched the shortcut (DTV ST) and I dont think he was even on the field half the time - that is a BIG concern . . .

 

[packersfan]

I agree Cook's lack of involvement is a concern. That's why I'm torn on him. But I do like his talent and it's not like the Titans have a ton of weapons in the passing game. I think Cook's talent can still win out. That being said, I like Davis a lot and it's very possible by my Thursday deadline I'll flip-flop on this and decide to make a run at Davis.

Ultimately, though, I don't like bailing on upside guys after one week. So I'm likely going to hold onto Cook and see if he justifies my draft night belief in him.

 

[tarheel4ever]

Couldn't drop Ford yet, but he's towards the bottom of my totem pole for now. Need Moore to get healthy soon! The only one I'd consider right now is Lee Evans since I have the chance to get D. Henderson or C. Williams.

After Week 1, it's always trying to find lightning in a bottle pick ups, but you should never feel obligated unless you a) had a crappy draft, b) someone does something guppy-like (i.e. freak out and drop Rothlesberger for Newton), or c) get someone hurt. No need to jump down the rabbit hole after week 1!

 

[raidersfan]

Agree it all depends on your league size and how you drafted, hard for a one size fits all answer. My main league is blind bidding so we get a max of 10 moves if that so hard to over react week one. That being said after two or three weeks when you can start calling production a trend, if may be too late or too expensive to grab the guy you want. Most teams drafted 6 or 7 rbs and wrs in my draft so slim pickings.

But I'm putting in a move for Henderson and dropping Earl Bennett. I look at that as opportunity versus a boring ppr play so I'll take a shot, even though henderson has been spotty in his career he has a real opening now and If you can get a piece of an offense that puts up that many points it's worth the risk IMO...but I could always get outbid

 

[The Stuttering Auctioneer]

Week 1 waivers are always the most difficult for me. You don't yet know what's an aberration or what's the beginning of a trend. The fact that Week 1 games are usually all over the place (witness the amount of scoring and blowouts) as teams settle in to the regular season make me think hard about some of the guys I had good feelings would emerge going into the draft, versus guys who seem to be emerging in Week 1.A good example brought up in this thread is the Raiders WR. I have Ford and took a flier with Moore on the last pick of the draft. I see guys like Cobb, Gaffney and McCluster on the wire, WRs who emerged because of opportunity or just a solid Week 1 performance. I think these guys showed their upside, but I always find myself hesitant to make too many roster moves in week 1 out of fear for dropping a guy I think will still emerge and have value in favor of a potentially sporadic 1 week wonder.I'm usually more comfortable with these decisions in Week 2 -- the problem is I risk losing out on a guy ahead of the curve.How do others approach the situation?

Week 1 is by far the hardest and the way I am approaching it is via trade. I like to contact owners & check their paranoia level so to speak. As it's unlikely I will strike a deal, I'll stay inactive on the Waiver Wire this week and give the guys who didn't perform for me a second chance and in doing so, by making no moves I will climb up the waiver wire order. Their are some gems out there now but none that give me 100% confidence that they'll steadily outperform anyone on my team now. Every week opportunities open up on the wire so by making a knee jerk reaction this week, I can really screw myself for next week or the week after. It's hard to stay inactive but sometimes the best move is not making one. Also when looking at my roster & seeing the guys I drafted as "sleepers" in the very late rds...well they are sleepers for a reason. Doesn't mean they are going to explode week 1. I would hate to drop a sleeper I was high on going into my draft after weeks of preparation & after only 1 week panic & release him only to see that he winds up having the season I assumed he would and seeing another owner reap the rewards of my paranoia while I picked up a guy who had a good week 1 and did squat week 2 and on.

 

[NeverEnough]

I tried to trade Ocho for Burleson (Non PPR) & the guy was insulted...

 

[duaneok66]

I tried to trade Ocho for Burleson (Non PPR) & the guy was insulted...

with good reason . . .

 

[cvnpoka]

Dropping Austin Collie and picking up Lance Moore.Also, someone in my league dropped Ced Benson before week 1, so he will be a hot pickup this week. Thinking about dropping Brandon Jacobs or Jacoby Ford for him. We do a blind bid system for waiver wire pickups. Hoping maybe I can grab him with 5% of my budget.

umm, you better bid your whole roll for benson.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Dropping Austin Collie and picking up Lance Moore.Also, someone in my league dropped Ced Benson before week 1, so he will be a hot pickup this week. Thinking about dropping Brandon Jacobs or Jacoby Ford for him. We do a blind bid system for waiver wire pickups. Hoping maybe I can grab him with 5% of my budget.

LOL thinking about dropping Brandon Jacobs for Benson? I'd expect to blow 75-50% of your budget on a guy like benson if someone was dumb enough to leave him out there.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

no one i drafted in the first 10 rounds. some of you are nutsJames Jones is the only one

same here. cutting bait on James Jones. Nelson looked great. Cobb is past him on the depth chart apparently. Won't have any value unless traded or injuries, and there are better guys in the pool.