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DeAndre Levy owners... (1 Viewer)

Well, these were expected moves by the Lions

Levy had 14 mistackles (worst MLB) last year in 11 games and 13 the year before

And overall he hasn't exactly great ratings on ProFootballFocus

 
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Levy is going to be a 3 down LB no matter what happens. It's just a matter of whether he plays in the middle or WLB (if they do sign Tulloch).

 
Levy is going to be a 3 down LB no matter what happens. It's just a matter of whether he plays in the middle or WLB (if they do sign Tulloch).
with Durrant and Tull in town Levy is a package guy. As an owner I'm frustrated since I held him for 3 yrs and really haven't gotten squat.
 
I havent seen any indication.that the lions are still interestes in tulloch. Has anyone seen that they are still in pursuit?

 
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.

 
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
 
'KellysHeroes said:
'cr8f said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
The coaches are very high on Levy and have said so on numerous occasions. He can play any of the LB spots and he is very good in coverage. Levy is a much better overall player than Durant. As a matter of fact, if they sign Barnett, I believe Levy will play MLB. Regardless of who they sign, I fully expect Levy to be a 3 down LB no matter where he lines up.Also, Barnett is visiting with the Lions Sunday.
 
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'KellysHeroes said:
'cr8f said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
The coaches are very high on Levy and have said so on numerous occasions. He can play any of the LB spots and he is very good in coverage. Levy is a much better overall player than Durant. As a matter of fact, if they sign Barnett, I believe Levy will play MLB. Regardless of who they sign, I fully expect Levy to be a 3 down LB no matter where he lines up.Also, Barnett is visiting with the Lions Sunday.
hopeur right, I drafted him 3yrs ago and have barely used him... let some good talent go by by not dropping him so I hope he does become a player
 
'KellysHeroes said:
'cr8f said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
The coaches are very high on Levy and have said so on numerous occasions. He can play any of the LB spots and he is very good in coverage. Levy is a much better overall player than Durant. As a matter of fact, if they sign Barnett, I believe Levy will play MLB. Regardless of who they sign, I fully expect Levy to be a 3 down LB no matter where he lines up.Also, Barnett is visiting with the Lions Sunday.
hopeur right, I drafted him 3yrs ago and have barely used him... let some good talent go by by not dropping him so I hope he does become a player
The Lions signed Tulloch. Levy will play on the outside. His value takes a hit, but I believe he will still play 3 downs because he is the best of all the LBs in coverage. But his value takes a hit because of the lost tackles. He had top 15 upside as an every down MLB, drops to somewhere in the LB3 range assuming he plays 3 downs.
 
'KellysHeroes said:
'cr8f said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
The coaches are very high on Levy and have said so on numerous occasions. He can play any of the LB spots and he is very good in coverage. Levy is a much better overall player than Durant. As a matter of fact, if they sign Barnett, I believe Levy will play MLB. Regardless of who they sign, I fully expect Levy to be a 3 down LB no matter where he lines up.Also, Barnett is visiting with the Lions Sunday.
hopeur right, I drafted him 3yrs ago and have barely used him... let some good talent go by by not dropping him so I hope he does become a player
The Lions signed Tulloch. Levy will play on the outside. His value takes a hit, but I believe he will still play 3 downs because he is the best of all the LBs in coverage. But his value takes a hit because of the lost tackles. He had top 15 upside as an every down MLB, drops to somewhere in the LB3 range assuming he plays 3 downs.
Anthony, how do you see them lining up?WLB- DurantMLB- TullochSLB- LevyWith Tulloch and Levy as 3 down backers?
 
'KellysHeroes said:
'cr8f said:
'KellysHeroes said:
Now it's Barnet, and he would love to play against his old team I'm sure. The staff isn't to high on Levy IMO... Right now I would rank Durant over him.
Do you have information from the staff? If so from who?
the information is they signed a guy that has experience playing WLB and MLB while also being intesested in evey MLB hitting the market; possibly already offering Tulluch a nice contract.
The coaches are very high on Levy and have said so on numerous occasions. He can play any of the LB spots and he is very good in coverage. Levy is a much better overall player than Durant. As a matter of fact, if they sign Barnett, I believe Levy will play MLB. Regardless of who they sign, I fully expect Levy to be a 3 down LB no matter where he lines up.Also, Barnett is visiting with the Lions Sunday.
hopeur right, I drafted him 3yrs ago and have barely used him... let some good talent go by by not dropping him so I hope he does become a player
The Lions signed Tulloch. Levy will play on the outside. His value takes a hit, but I believe he will still play 3 downs because he is the best of all the LBs in coverage. But his value takes a hit because of the lost tackles. He had top 15 upside as an every down MLB, drops to somewhere in the LB3 range assuming he plays 3 downs.
Anthony, how do you see them lining up?WLB- DurantMLB- TullochSLB- LevyWith Tulloch and Levy as 3 down backers?
That's a good question, but for now, I would say that is the best guess. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Durant plays on passing downs in place of Tulloch, although I think the chances of that are less than 20%. Tulloch is a tackling machine, but he is not the greatest in coverage. I don't think it's automatic that Tulloch is a 3-down LB, but it's the most likely scenario.
 
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From the Detroit Free Press yesterday:

DeAndre Levy has been lining up at middle linebacker during the first two days of Lions' training camp.

In other words, he's staying put. The prohibitive favorite to lead the Lions in tackles this season, Levy should be able to rack up big numbers behind Detroit's fearsome defensive live. He could be an IDP stud if he stays healthy

:popcorn:

 
From the Detroit Free Press yesterday:

DeAndre Levy has been lining up at middle linebacker during the first two days of Lions' training camp.

In other words, he's staying put. The prohibitive favorite to lead the Lions in tackles this season, Levy should be able to rack up big numbers behind Detroit's fearsome defensive live. He could be an IDP stud if he stays healthy

:popcorn:
Dude, they signed Tulloch 30 minutes ago
 
From the Detroit Free Press yesterday:

DeAndre Levy has been lining up at middle linebacker during the first two days of Lions' training camp.

In other words, he's staying put. The prohibitive favorite to lead the Lions in tackles this season, Levy should be able to rack up big numbers behind Detroit's fearsome defensive live. He could be an IDP stud if he stays healthy

:popcorn:
Dude, they signed Tulloch 30 minutes ago
:wall:
 
That's a good question, but for now, I would say that is the best guess. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Durant plays on passing downs in place of Tulloch, although I think the chances of that are less than 20%. Tulloch is a tackling machine, but he is not the greatest in coverage. I don't think it's automatic that Tulloch is a 3-down LB, but it's the most likely scenario.
I'm not taking this for granted but according to ProFootballFocus, in 2010, Tulloch was the 2nd best ILB in Pass Coverage with +8.3, Levy -0.8

Durant -13.2 as OLB

 
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Levy = Poop right now... its going to be a nightmare as both him and Durant have Groin issues.

I drafted him in 3 Leagues and luckly sold him in 2 for a good amounts.

 
Levy = Poop right now... its going to be a nightmare as both him and Durant have Groin issues.I drafted him in 3 Leagues and luckly sold him in 2 for a good amounts.
I don't agree. If at WLB he could still be a lot better than poop.
Durant isn't a SLB
This, Levy will have be riding ur pine until Durant gets injuried.
Maybe Durant isn't a SLB. But neither is Levy. There is no guarantee that Levy plays SLB and Durant WLB. It could go either way. Regardless, Levy is probably the surest bet of the 3 LBs to play all 3 downs.
 
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I think we can see who are the Levy and Durant owners in this thread.

 
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Levy = Poop right now... its going to be a nightmare as both him and Durant have Groin issues.I drafted him in 3 Leagues and luckly sold him in 2 for a good amounts.
I don't agree. If at WLB he could still be a lot better than poop.
Durant isn't a SLB
This, Levy will have be riding ur pine until Durant gets injuried.
Maybe Durant isn't a SLB. But neither is Levy. There is no guarantee that Levy plays SLB and Durant WLB. It could go either way. Regardless, Levy is probably the surest bet of the 3 LBs to play all 3 downs.
As of now, Roto is reporting Durant at the W / Tull at the M / Levy in the SNewly acquired Justin Durant is expected to play weak-side linebacker for the Lions.I own both guys as well, and in the league I have Levy I'm much more competive so I would love it if Levy stays 3dwn LB and possible LB15-ish...but the writing on the wall just doesn't say that.
 
Levy = Poop right now... its going to be a nightmare as both him and Durant have Groin issues.I drafted him in 3 Leagues and luckly sold him in 2 for a good amounts.
I don't agree. If at WLB he could still be a lot better than poop.
Durant isn't a SLB
This, Levy will have be riding ur pine until Durant gets injuried.
Maybe Durant isn't a SLB. But neither is Levy. There is no guarantee that Levy plays SLB and Durant WLB. It could go either way. Regardless, Levy is probably the surest bet of the 3 LBs to play all 3 downs.
As of now, Roto is reporting Durant at the W / Tull at the M / Levy in the SNewly acquired Justin Durant is expected to play weak-side linebacker for the Lions.I own both guys as well, and in the league I have Levy I'm much more competive so I would love it if Levy stays 3dwn LB and possible LB15-ish...but the writing on the wall just doesn't say that.
One of the locals said in a tweet that he believed Durant would play SLB. I don't remember which one said it and I'm not going to search through a bunch of tweets, so take it as you wish. Nobody really knows for sure where they will line up because the Lions haven't said anything. I do believe Levy will be a 3-down LB. Even with that, I think the top-15 is well out of reach. I am updating my rankings in the next day or 2 and I will probably have Levy somewhere in the 30s. He took a huge hit not only moving out of the middle, but by the Lions signing a tackling machine like Tulloch.
 
I've been hearing from more than one source about the Lions playing more of a right and left OLB, rather than weak and strong. I'm not sure what impact, if any, that has on their value?

 
As of now, Roto is reporting Durant at the W / Tull at the M / Levy in the SNewly acquired Justin Durant is expected to play weak-side linebacker for the Lions.
That was based on beat writer speculation days before Tulloch signed.
I've been hearing from more than one source about the Lions playing more of a right and left OLB, rather than weak and strong. I'm not sure what impact, if any, that has on their value?
I've been noting that possibility today. It's something Schwartz has done before when both OLB are similar in run support and coverage ability. I think Durant is marginally better in playing with leverage and shedding blocks and Levy is marginally better in pursuit, but it's close. The LOLB will have a somewhat tougher path to the ball on most running plays, but the alignment won't affect their value nearly as much as their respective subpackage roles.
 
JOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato

@JDurant56 - How is the DET LB situation gonna play out? Who's on the field in the nickel and dime? Sam & Will or Left & Right?

Jul 31, 9:31 PM

JDurant56 Justin Durant

@JOBOOZOSO not sure yet

Jul 31, 9:32 PM

JOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato

@JDurant56 Folks were wondering if you could play the SAM. Have you ever played there before?

JDurant56 Justin Durant

@JOBOOZOSO I played all 3 before

Jul 31, 9:37 PM

JOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato

@JDurant56 Thanks for speedy reply! Lots of fans goin crazy trying to figure out Lions' D' schemes. I guess get behind Suh for easy tackles

Jul 31, 9:42 PM

 
Levy is going to be a 3 down LB no matter what happens. It's just a matter of whether he plays in the middle or WLB (if they do sign Tulloch).
with Durrant and Tull in town Levy is a package guy. As an owner I'm frustrated since I held him for 3 yrs and really haven't gotten squat.
Im pretty bummed too.. ive been a durant owner also.. on and off.. he gets injured a lot and misses time.... but levy's MLB value is done.. barring injury to tulloch...
 
Levy is going to be a 3 down LB no matter what happens. It's just a matter of whether he plays in the middle or WLB (if they do sign Tulloch).
with Durrant and Tull in town Levy is a package guy. As an owner I'm frustrated since I held him for 3 yrs and really haven't gotten squat.
Im pretty bummed too.. ive been a durant owner also.. on and off.. he gets injured a lot and misses time.... but levy's MLB value is done.. barring injury to tulloch...
It is this year. But don't forget that Tulloch is only signed for one year.
 
'JOBOOZOSO said:
JOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato@JDurant56 - How is the DET LB situation gonna play out? Who's on the field in the nickel and dime? Sam & Will or Left & Right?Jul 31, 9:31 PM JDurant56 Justin Durant@JOBOOZOSO not sure yetJul 31, 9:32 PM JOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato@JDurant56 Folks were wondering if you could play the SAM. Have you ever played there before? JDurant56 Justin Durant@JOBOOZOSO I played all 3 beforeJul 31, 9:37 PMJOBOOZOSO Joseph Buccellato@JDurant56 Thanks for speedy reply! Lots of fans goin crazy trying to figure out Lions' D' schemes. I guess get behind Suh for easy tacklesJul 31, 9:42 PM
Nice job :thumbup:
 
Durant has played SLB in Jacksonville. So he has experience at the position. Not saying he's any good there, but he has played there. Dude can't stay healthy so I don't think it matters where he plays. That is why Daryl Smith got shuffled around before settling on SLB. Durant couldn't stay healthy no matter if he played SLB, MLB, or WLB (Durant has played all 3 positions while in Jax as did Smith).

I wouldn't write off Levy just yet.

I think their best lineup would be:

SLB - Durant

MLB - Tulloch

WLB - Levy

This would still be favorable for Levy if he's any good at chasing down ball carriers from the backside.

 
Durant has played SLB in Jacksonville. So he has experience at the position. Not saying he's any good there, but he has played there. Dude can't stay healthy so I don't think it matters where he plays. That is why Daryl Smith got shuffled around before settling on SLB. Durant couldn't stay healthy no matter if he played SLB, MLB, or WLB (Durant has played all 3 positions while in Jax as did Smith).I wouldn't write off Levy just yet.I think their best lineup would be:SLB - DurantMLB - TullochWLB - LevyThis would still be favorable for Levy if he's any good at chasing down ball carriers from the backside.
If he can beat Tulloch to the ball. As a Levy owner I have my fingers crossed they play him at WLB.
 
Durant has played SLB in Jacksonville. So he has experience at the position. Not saying he's any good there, but he has played there. Dude can't stay healthy so I don't think it matters where he plays. That is why Daryl Smith got shuffled around before settling on SLB. Durant couldn't stay healthy no matter if he played SLB, MLB, or WLB (Durant has played all 3 positions while in Jax as did Smith).

I wouldn't write off Levy just yet.

I think their best lineup would be:

SLB - Durant

MLB - Tulloch

WLB - Levy

This would still be favorable for Levy if he's any good at chasing down ball carriers from the backside.
He looks good at it here in this clip from last season.
 
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Durant has played SLB in Jacksonville. So he has experience at the position. Not saying he's any good there, but he has played there. Dude can't stay healthy so I don't think it matters where he plays. That is why Daryl Smith got shuffled around before settling on SLB. Durant couldn't stay healthy no matter if he played SLB, MLB, or WLB (Durant has played all 3 positions while in Jax as did Smith).I wouldn't write off Levy just yet.I think their best lineup would be:SLB - DurantMLB - TullochWLB - LevyThis would still be favorable for Levy if he's any good at chasing down ball carriers from the backside.
I think this is how it will shake out.
 
http://detnews.com/article/20110802/SPORTS0101/108020328/1126/

Said Tulloch: "A lot of teams overlooked me because of my size and height. I play with a chip on my shoulder. I love the game of football. I have a passion for it."

Tulloch won't be able to begin practice until the new league year commences, which is tentatively set for Thursday. But, having played the same defensive system his entire career, there will be no adjustment period.

"I understand this defense and I know the terminology," he said. "I've been studying this playbook the last five years. I know it inside and out. I am excited to get started."

Although Schwartz said he would let the process work itself out in camp, it would be an upset if Tulloch didn't start at middle linebacker, with DeAndre Levy moving to one outside spot and another free-agent signee, Justin Durant, starting at the other.

"We are going to put the best combination out there," Schwartz said. "When we draft or sign linebackers, we talk about guys who are multidimensional and can do a lot of different things. There are nickel roles, base roles, short-yardage roles — we will play whatever we think is the best combinations. That's what training camp is for. None of that is set in stone right now."

Regardless, Schwartz is at least glad of one thing: He won't be caught empty-handed at middle linebacker like he was last season.

When Levy was hurt, the Lions ran a parade of six players through there, including Spencer Havner, a tight end who hadn't played linebacker since college.

"Our depth is improved and we can handle a lot of different things," Schwartz said. "You don't just want good players but you want good players who can do multiple things. There's not that much difference in our scheme between outside linebacker and middle linebacker. It's not like the middle linebacker is 260 pounds and the outside guys are at 215. They do pretty much the same thing."

Ashlee Palmer and Zach Follett are going to get every opportunity to make the rotation at outside linebacker. The Lions still are holding out some hope they will be able to re-sign Bobby Carpenter, who started two games last season for the Lions, but their chances grew slimmer when they signed Tulloch and Durant.

"I am not sure what it was like before (at the linebacker position) but I can honestly say, I've been friends with Durant for a couple of years and I watched Levy on tape and he's a player," Tulloch said. "The pieces are here. It's just a matter of putting them all together."

Camp update

Lions training camp practices in Allen Park today and Wednesday start at 9:15 a.m., and are open to the public. Gates open at 8:45 a.m., and access is on a first-come, first-serve basis.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110802/SPORTS0101/108020328/Jim-Schwartz’s-plea-to-draft-Stephen-Tulloch-pays-off-—-twice#ixzz1TqXySptF

 
So far sounds like Levy is looking good in practice!! He even had a INT and from what I hear homers saying sounds like he will have no problem getting to the ball carrier before Tulloch. Hope this continues to be the out come all the way into the season!!

 
So far sounds like Levy is looking good in practice!! He even had a INT and from what I hear homers saying sounds like he will have no problem getting to the ball carrier before Tulloch. Hope this continues to be the out come all the way into the season!!
I would not count on the bolded being true. There's a reason Tulloch had 160 tackles...he is a tackling machine. Even if Levy plays great, his value takes a huge hit with Tulloch being signed.
 
So far sounds like Levy is looking good in practice!! He even had a INT and from what I hear homers saying sounds like he will have no problem getting to the ball carrier before Tulloch. Hope this continues to be the out come all the way into the season!!
I would not count on the bolded being true. There's a reason Tulloch had 160 tackles...he is a tackling machine. Even if Levy plays great, his value takes a huge hit with Tulloch being signed.
We will agree to disagree!! I think it will affect his potential as a top 10 LB this year but I don't think it is a HUGE HIT in his value. Guess only time will tell, but I know you must be pretty excited Anthony to final see your team with some upside!!
 
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So far sounds like Levy is looking good in practice!! He even had a INT and from what I hear homers saying sounds like he will have no problem getting to the ball carrier before Tulloch. Hope this continues to be the out come all the way into the season!!
Levy has led the league in MISTACKLES in the last 2 years with 28 (1449 snaps)

I'm sure the Lions staff hopes Tulloch gets the ball carrier first

 
Sounds like it may be playing out as I suspected.Per Rotoworld:

"Coach Jim Schwartz said he hasn't decided if DeAndre Levy or newly acquired Stephen Tulloch will play inside linebacker.This is likely just another case of Schwartz treating his team like a covert CIA operation. We fully expect Tulloch, an inside linebacker his entire life, to man the middle while Levy kicks to the weak side. Levy was an outside linebacker at Wisconsin. "
 
We will agree to disagree!! I think it will affect his potential as a top 10 LB this year but I don't think it is a HUGE HIT in his value. Guess only time will tell, but I know you must be pretty excited Anthony to final see your team with some upside!!
If I'm reading into your statement correctly, you think he's going to be ranked between 10-15, which would make him a borderline LB#1. It is not smart business to rank any player based on "potential" this high.
 
We will agree to disagree!! I think it will affect his potential as a top 10 LB this year but I don't think it is a HUGE HIT in his value. Guess only time will tell, but I know you must be pretty excited Anthony to final see your team with some upside!!
If I'm reading into your statement correctly, you think he's going to be ranked between 10-15, which would make him a borderline LB#1. It is not smart business to rank any player based on "potential" this high.
Dont know what you are reading my statement is Black and White if Det never signed Tulloch and Levy stayed in the Middle he was a potential top 10!!! Now that he is moved to WLB assuming he still is a 3 down back he will not take a HUGE blow but will fall out of Potential top 10/LB1. I never stated he would be 10-15, I would guess more like 20-30 LB2-/LB3+.The Kid is young and has been battled an injury all last year,this year he is healthy and been in the system two years, people at camp are already saying he looks much more comfortable on the field vs kinda lost last year!!
 

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