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Del Pilar’s Digest: Players whose stock is falling (1 Viewer)

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Del Pilar’s Digest: Players whose stock is fallingBy William Del Pilar, ProFootballWeekly.comSep 2, 5:41 pm EDT

Del Pilar's Digest: Players whose stock is fallingEvery season there are players that rise and fall and it's always a disappointment to see some of them fall. We're happy when we grab an undervalued pick but wonder why we missed on those who fall. Most of the time it's merely staying up to date on the latest player news. That's what I'm here for. Let's see what players you need to avoid and what players are being drafted too high and should fall:QUARTERBACKSMatt Cassel(notes), ChiefsCassel' had a bad preseason, struggling with his accuracy and timing. It doesn't help that rookie WR Jonathan Baldwin(notes) (cracked thumb) has not been able to work with him after reportedly getting into a fight with RB Thomas Jones(notes) that caused the injured thumb. Plus, WR Steve Breaston(notes) (knee) and TE Tony Moeaki(notes) (knee), both have been limited as they recover from offseason surgeries. It all means that Cassel has not been able to develop chemistry with his receivers. Adding insult to injury, Cassel landed on his shoulder in the final preseason game, scaring the team but merely knocking the wind out of him. It epitomized the preseason he has had. He won't get into form until midseason.Tarvaris Jackson(notes), SeahawksAt times in life, we're in situations where nothing we do turns out right and when we try harder, it only gets worse. That's the kind of preseason Jackson has had. A bad camp, bad preseason games and yet he's still the starter. Through three preseason games, Jackson had completed 27-of-48 passes (56.3 percent) for 181 yards with one touchdown and one interception. Backup Charlie Whitehurst(notes) has outplayed him, completing 33-of-47 passes (70.2 percent) for 265 yards with one touchdown and no interceptions. Jackson is not draftable, and stay away from the Seahawks' running backs and receivers.RUNNING BACKSRyan Mathews(notes), ChargersMathews' role is the first- and second-down back with Mike Tolbert(notes) coming in for red-zone carries and on passing downs. What's noteworthy is the fact that head coach Norv Turner was once a believer in using a single back but now he is firmly in the tandem camp — and he plans on using that philosophy with his two star rushers. Mathews is no better than a low-end No. 2 fantasy back and he's going too high in drafts. His ADP (average draft position) is No. 34 overall (Round Three in a 12-team league). Owners better hope he can score from outside the 20-yard-line because that's what it looks like it will take.Ahmad Bradshaw(notes), GiantsBradshaw is another player who's going way too high for his timeshare. Many assume a split like last season but that's not the case. The team plans on using Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs(notes) as a one-two punch in 2011 with a similar number of touches for each. Bradshaw's ADP is too high at No. 27 overall (Round Three in a 12-team league).Ryan Grant(notes), PackersGrant had a solid camp but James Starks(notes) had a great camp. Grant has looked average and doesn't seem to have his pre-injury burst but can still get between the tackles and to the outside. Starks looks like he has playmaking potential. Head coach Mike McCarthy will go with the hot hand, whoever is playing better and who matches up better. Grant is not an early mid-round pick and is going slightly too high. If you avoid him, target Starks later in the draft.Daniel Thomas(notes), DolphinsThomas did not have a great preseason. He was dancing too much, wasn't hitting the holes hard and was struggling to pass-block. Originally drafted to be a featured back, Thomas has dropped to backup status, with Reggie Bush(notes) now expected to see most of the touches. The Dolphins have not given up on Thomas but it's no secret they are disappointed and this could lead to Thomas struggling mentally as the season wears on. If a young player believes he's in the doghouse things could get worse before they get better. He's no better than an injury fill-in fantasy back.Justin Forsett(notes), SeahawksForsett might lose third-down touches to Leon Washington(notes). The team wants to get Washington's skills on the field but has said that it will find a role for Forsett. Forsett is still the primary handcuff to Marshawn Lynch(notes) as Washington can't carry the load as a starter. Forsett's value is only to Lynch owners.Donald Brown(notes), ColtsBrown has been a big disappointment and now he has lost the backup job to rookie Delone Carter(notes). He has no upside and this is probably his last season with the Colts. Avoid him on draft day, and if you own Joseph Addai(notes), handcuff him with Carter.Anthony Dixon(notes), 49ersDixon is losing the backup battle to rookie Kendall Hunter(notes) but should keep his role as the goal-line back. He has no value outside the handcuff to Frank Gore(notes). Hunter simply has looked that good, to the point the team will use him to take advantage of his playmaking skills. Avoid Dixon as he might lose the No. 2 job.Steve Slaton(notes), TexansIt's likely Slaton already has been cut from the Texans when you read this. He'll sign somewhere else and keep an eye on where he lands but as long as he's a Texan he's not worth a draft slot. He's behind Arian Foster(notes), Derrick Ward(notes) and Ben Tate(notes) in the pecking order.Chester Taylor(notes), BearsTaylor has nothing left in the tank and will not be with the Bears after this weekend. He'll get picked up but has absolutely no value. Ignore him on draft day.Derrick Ward, TexansWard is being outplayed by Ben Tate and even though he's technically the backup to Arian Foster, I believe Tate eventually will take that job. You have to handcuff Ward, as head coach Gary Kubiak is likely to give the veteran first shot to replace Foster, but I would suggest grabbing Tate as well.Javon Ringer(notes), TitansThere's nothing wrong with Ringer, it's just that Chris Johnson is back. Ringer will drop in drafts but is still the handcuff. He's healing from a hip injury but should be ready for Week One.WIDE RECEIVERSSidney Rice(notes), SeahawksRice is on a team that is struggling to find good QB play. That will affect him directly. Tarvaris Jackson, who came to the team knowing the offense is struggling without showing improvement. His competition, Charlie Whitehurst, has outplayed him but is not in competition for the starter's job. Jackson enters the season starting and not able to get the ball to Rice. The big wideout is not worth an early mid-round pick if the quarterback can't get him the ball. Pass on him.Brandon Lloyd(notes), Broncos Lloyd is having issues with his knee and, though there is not great concern, he's not very big at 6-feet, 194 pounds and durability could be an issue. He's more suited for the slot and I expect Eric Decker(notes) to eventually supplant him by play or injury. This is also a run-first offense. Lloyd wouldn't be on this list if his knee hadn't flared up but combined with his size and the fact that he's getting drafted too early, it tells me to avoid him.Devery Henderson(notes), SaintsThere were rumblings that Henderson could get cut, but he will make the team as the No. 4 receiver. In other words, he won't be in the same starting position as last season and is merely a late-round flier on deep rosters. He has lost a step and the continued growth of Robert Meachem(notes) and Lance Moore(notes) finally has pushed him aside. I wouldn't even think about drafting him, as he's buried on the roster barring inury.Roy Williams, BearsHow bad can it get for a player with the talent Williams had entering the league? His attitude in Detroit ran him off and got him traded to the Cowboys. His attitude and lack of production led Dallas to release him. Now he's having a poor camp despite being given the starter's job. He's playing poorly, not running tight routes and is out of shape. Combined with a solid camp by Johnny Knox(notes), who should be taken as an undervalued sleeper pick, Williams is on borrowed time and should be avoided on draft day.TIGHT ENDSHeath Miller(notes), SteelersThe team will not be using Miller in the passing game this season as much it did in year's past. In fact, with the surprise emergence of WR Antonio Brown(notes) and with WR Emmanuel Sanders(notes) now back practicing, the Steelers have a full receiving corps. Then add in free-agent signee Jerricho Cotchery(notes) and I can see Miller becoming more of a blocker. He still will get a few receptions here and there as QB Ben Roethlisberger(notes) trusts him.Tony Moeaki, ChiefsMoeaki can't stay healthy. He's taking a while to heal from offseason knee surgery and then got hurt in the final preseason game. He hasn't had a chance to work with QB Matt Cassel and that will hurt his early season numbers. He's a No. 2 fantasy tight end but the Chiefs are struggling and there are better options than a tight end that we don't even know will get on the field and be effective early on. Pass on him, as there are better options.
 
You would think Peyton Manning would get a mention. Even if he recovers from injury, I haven't been impressed with the Colts on D. Opposing teams should be planning to keep the ball out of Peytons hand by running the ball.

 
You would think Peyton Manning would get a mention. Even if he recovers from injury, I haven't been impressed with the Colts on D. Opposing teams should be planning to keep the ball out of Peytons hand by running the ball.
Hasn't that been the plan for 12 years?
Don't look know but the teams in the division have been catching up to the Colts. Get ready to read more headlines like this: "Arian Foster runs for 231 yards, 3 TDs as Texans fend off Colts."
 
Anyone else seen confirmation that Brown is now the #3 RB behind Delonte Carter (as indicated above)? I've seen elsewhere that Brown might be on the roster bubble, but that's different that losing the backup job.

 
You would think Peyton Manning would get a mention. Even if he recovers from injury, I haven't been impressed with the Colts on D. Opposing teams should be planning to keep the ball out of Peytons hand by running the ball.
Hasn't that been the plan for 12 years?
Don't look know but the teams in the division have been catching up to the Colts. Get ready to read more headlines like this: "Arian Foster runs for 231 yards, 3 TDs as Texans fend off Colts."
Running backs have been running that much on the Colts for a decade, so what's new?
 
You would think Peyton Manning would get a mention. Even if he recovers from injury, I haven't been impressed with the Colts on D. Opposing teams should be planning to keep the ball out of Peytons hand by running the ball.
Hasn't that been the plan for 12 years?
Don't look know but the teams in the division have been catching up to the Colts. Get ready to read more headlines like this: "Arian Foster runs for 231 yards, 3 TDs as Texans fend off Colts."
Not really.IIRC last year or the year before was the first time the Texans beat the Colts. Can you imagine the psychological advantage the Colts have over them? I mean this goes back to Carr and...first time. Plus they outscored Manning. They didn't play defense, so to speak. It's awfully naive to work up a gameplan to think you'll win a shootout against Peyton.

Fisher was the best coach against the Colts bar none. You could see BB and other smart coaches taking a page from Fish's book and reworking his gameplan. The Titans were good enough to sit back and not blitz Peyton. They're soooo not good enough to do that now.

The Jaguars have tried to employ a toughness system reminiscent of Fox's way of beating the awesome Rams. Hit the Colts (legally) hard every chance they got. Slow down those WRs with hits right away and pile on MJD and...this has worked on occasion. I'm hopping over to PFR. 15-5 is the Colts record against the Jags. They won six of the last eight.

My biggest prob with many NFL coaches is if you are going against Brady, Manning etc. you have to put them away. Instead everyone almost thinks they are sitting pretty with a seven point lead. That's nothing to those great QBs and thus countless teams always lose to them in the 3rd or 4th Q.

The post above, 231 yards may not be enough against Peyton. If it's two long runs, how do you know Peyton didn't just get them six twice to counter that. If it's 231 and he wore them down-kudos! That'll work. To plan on that or bank on that is just plain silly.

Foster, MJD, and CJ are as good as it gets for RBs. If you root for either of these teams you have seen this "a million times." An impressive long drive mostly led by the great runner, then Peyton comes on and 1,2,3 they score. Now that great runner has to do it again; if not Peyton will. It's demoralizing. All that hope they had is washed away with one glance at the scoreboard. Peyton is a royal pain-in-the-neck. If you hit any of these teams boards this offseason you'd see someone calling him that due to his injury. It's one of the rare times, I'm fine with someone making fun of an injury. It's got a back-handed compliment mixed in and I "get it."

I don't think the casual fan realizes what Peyton does either. He knows these teams like the back of his hand. Most weeks, I'd swear they ditch whatever gameplan the Colts had. If there's a weak DB, he is throwing it there as often as he can. It's so perspicuous and you wind up hating the GM for not having addressed that position in the offseason. All week ya read how if MJD could help them with these time consuming drives and if the D could just...there he is throwing with zero resistance against the bad CB your team never replaced in the offseason. A safety is moved to double and/or help out and there's Peyton putting the dagger in their heart with a bomb right to the spot where the safety should have been. It's such basic football and it's maddening to watch and root against.

Kubiak's roster of DBs didn't give him a choice but to assume Peyton would make this a high scoring game. He's had one or two LBs that were great against the run, maybe even the best, and that's about useless against Peyton. Mario gets to the passer so well, but Peyton gets rid of it so fast he rarely takes sacks. Every other week this is a well built up and coming D, against Peyton though it doesn't matter.

Looking at PFR it wasn't the first, but the second time the Texans beat the Colts. 2 of 16 and 1 of the last 8.

Peyton knows these teams too well. It's a nightmare.

 
Anyone else seen confirmation that Brown is now the #3 RB behind Delonte Carter (as indicated above)? I've seen elsewhere that Brown might be on the roster bubble, but that's different that losing the backup job.
I read that he was cut and then the reporter "took it back" and apologized. Still, I think that puts it in context.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Donnybrook said:
You would think Peyton Manning would get a mention. Even if he recovers from injury, I haven't been impressed with the Colts on D. Opposing teams should be planning to keep the ball out of Peytons hand by running the ball.
Hasn't that been the plan for 12 years?
And it's worked sooooo well, hasn't it? lol

 
Del Pilar should stick to what he knows best.....accounting.

The guy couldn't compete in a league with experienced FF owners.

His "articles" rehash the obvious

 
Del Pilar should stick to what he knows best.....accounting.The guy couldn't compete in a league with experienced FF owners.His "articles" rehash the obvious
His articles might, I don't know. Otherwise, you couldn't be more wrong. Send him an email and chat with him, you'll see.
 
Is Donald Brown now droppable in dynasty leagues?
I wouldn't drop him based on this story. He started in front of Carter all preseason. And the team's website still lists Brown ahead of Carter on the depth chart. http://www.colts.com/team/depth-chart.htmlHe is entering his third year and finally has mastered the pass blocking. Whether you keep him or not depends on how deep your bench is but I wouldn't trade him for Carter, despite the fact that Carter is the media favorite.
 

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