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Haden plays lcb and stays there. He will be playing up against the right wide receiver. Do Oaklands wr's stay on a particular side or do they switch around? DHB played lwr on his td.'McBokonon said:
From what I recall of the NE game, I saw Moore lining up on the right most of the time, coupled with Campbell seeming to look only middle-left(DHB) most of the day.'The Man With No Name said:
DHB was on the left for every snap he was on the field the last three weeks.
this is no longer true. also he may not even play this week.'The Man With No Name said:
Then he wasn't in when Moore had passes thrown his way on the left. I just watched the game last night. Moore moves around. It's actually not surprising that Bey doesn't. That would really confuse his hand eye coordination, asking him to turn to his left ot track teh ball after turning to his right all year.
Or, they possibly have twins left formations in the playbook?
the funniest part is that these people actually believe what they are typing . . .
Defenses are gameplanning against Denarius freakin' Moore and that's opening holes for DARREN MCFADDEN?
Just try to say that out loud without laughing.
I defenses are gameplanning against Bernard Berrian over in Minnesota too, leaving things wide open for Peterson?
He has put up WR1 numbers for two straight weeks now......just saying.
it doesn't follow that he will do it every week . . . he is (hopefully) rounding into a decent receiver - but still he has stone hands and he has issues adjusting to the ball in the air . . . if he's even a WR3 the rest of the way, then he's made strides since the beginning of the year . . .
but not impossible. I don't even think the fact that it's a run first offense will hold him back. But Campbell's accuracy might.
missed the shocking part . . .I did say LOW END WR1 and that it would be shocking
I think this is an accurate portrayal of the pecking order for snaps unless/until one of the three lower guys makes more noise. Only one seriously in contention to do that is Ford IMO. Moore got crappy looks this past weekend. It'll happen from Campbell. Probably again this year.
nice call on those who thought Moore would start over Ford . . . I don't have the exact number but it looks like the Raiders ran about 60 plays, so Moore and DHB are still sitting about 25% of the time . . .
If you look at it, this could be one of the better receiving corps (1-5) in the NFL. I'm not a huge fan of DHB (although I just picked him up on waivers in my dynasty league) but if Schillens is health I could see them all contributing on a regular basis. By the way, the sneak play isn't DHB he just came off 2 nice games. The sneaky play is Hagan. However, given the snaps, I think any of these guys could put up a big game.Full disclosure, I own DHB and Moore.'duaneok66 said:
too many mouths to feed with Schillens and Ford in (both highly touted WRs when they first joined OAK too), I'm out of this Packers situation. FWIW redraft league.'duaneok66 said:
Plus Murphy will be back this week or next and will be getting more snaps than Schilens or Hagan
I'm right there witya. I've taken 2 zeros this season starting D. Moore this year, and yet I can't ignore he's absolutely the best wideout on the team, still getting the most snaps and still getting a high share of targets. I am definitely starting him in one league, and am waffling on starting him in the other. I guess I am either a glutton for punishment or am insanely, religously loyal to D. Moore's talent and upside.
Bottom line: As I and a few others have said earlier, there is no true WR1 on the Raiders. It's a run-first offense, with DMC as the focal point in the running game and passing game. It's really not that complicated. In the "real world" the fluid situation of the WR unit is working for them (sort of, Campbell's accuracy as of late has been an issue) but for FF purposes its a weekly crap shoot. I wouldn't be starting any of them unless I was weak at WR and dealing with injuries, bye weeks, etc. Your basically at the mercy of Hue Jax's playcalling and Campbell's reads and accuracy. Its going to be a weekly guessing game. There's no debating Moore's talent, he's a great WR to have stashed in a dynasty league, but if you're looking for a WR play in a redraft this year I'd avoid the OAK WRs unless you have room on your roster to stash DHB, Moore or Ford and give it the "wait and see" approach to see if one of those guys can emerge and be consistent on a weekly basis.
I disagree about Moore. I'll give you that being a rookie, I'm sure he runs the wrong routes at times and gets lost occassionally. But the two deep balls that were thrown to him were off target. On the first one, he made an incredible leaping catch, reminiscent of the Bills game, but Campbell led him out of bounds. The second one, Campbell just over threw him, but he did have a step on the defender.
Do you own Moore? Your view seemed biased. I watched the whole game, and although Campbell made some bad throws, many were catchable with the right adjustments. Moore didn't seem to attack the ball the same way he did against Buffalo. I'm not down on the kid, trust me. He looks like Oakland's best true WR. He looks very talented, and if he continues to be a hard worker could develop into something special. Right now though, he's still learning to be an NFL player. Ford also looked very talented last year, but doesn't seem to be the same player he was last year. I think his hammy is bothering him, but he also looks lost. He had an ugly drop last week. DHB has done nothing to impress me thus far. I'm not buying, althogh I think he may be a decent #3 WR for fantasy teams the rest of the way on opportunities alone.
Yeah I own Moore, I also own DHB and Campbell in a dynasty league with very deep rosters (Campbell is my QB3 behind Newton and Eli and only started Moore once against the Jets and haven't started DHB yet)and I'm also a Raider fan, so yeah I'm biased but I want them ALL to perform well. I don't pretend to be an expert in the intricasies of being and NFL QB and WR but according to Dan Fouts (like him or not, knows a heck of a lot more about QBing than anyone on here) blamed that one particular pass play where Moore caught the ball out of bounds on Campbell. I do agree with you about Ford though, I think he's the most overrated of the 3.. Of coarse, he's the one I don't own
when it pans out, then there is nothing to talk about ducy?
Really.Tell you something else bro, in a few hours there's going to be a lot of "Man, I wish I saw that coming! Blew up on my bench.
" responses.
Yeah, well you were right about theReally.Tell you something else bro, in a few hours there's going to be a lot of "Man, I wish I saw that coming! Blew up on my bench.
part at least 
Glad I have one Darrius Heyward-Bey these days
