Denver at Indianapolis (2 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

Wonder what Bob Costas will lecture us about tonight.

Probably responsible parenting.

Personal foul, unnecessary roughness-15 yards

 

[BigJim®]

Seems like Denver is attempting way too many deep passes into double coverage. It's just not their style as they've been so good at intermediate routes and YAC.

 

[Nucker101]

Troy Smith threw 3 TD's in the CFL today.

 

[Nucker101]

Seems like Denver is attempting way too many deep passes into double coverage. It's just not their style as they've been so good at intermediate routes and YAC.

I bet we see more screens and a heavy dose of Welker in the second half.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Wonder what Bob Costas will lecture us about tonight.

"Speaking of the debt ceiling, US personal household debt is at record highs. This is not only bad for families but can be an issue for the economy...."

 

[need2know]

as an owner heavily invested in DEN, its not the worst thing in the world if they lose tonight. with the way KC is playing DEN will have to play all their players all season

 

[Smack Tripper]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

He does have very wobbly balls.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Who is out the rest of the game?

 

[j3r3m3y]

Who is out the rest of the game?

Chump.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Yahoo claims that Peyton's fumble was recovered by Denver for a safety. I guess a fumble out of the end zone is not considered a fumble lost?

Sucks from a fantasy perspective.

Any other news here? Why wouldn't that be a fumble? Let's pretend I don't have a vested interest here.

Nobody technically recovered it for it to be considered a lost fumble.

If your team lost possession of the ball isn't it a lost fumble?

Technically...they did NOT lose possession of the ball. Did you not notice they punted on the very next snap?

They were forced to punt though, not a choice like on fourth down. I just disagree with the rule.

NOBODY RECOVERED THE FUMBLE. Pretty simple. How do you credit a defense with a fumble recovery they never recovered? HOw do you charge an offensive player with a "lost fumble" if nobody recovered it?

This play was the same thing as if the snap sailed over Manning's head and out of the end zone.

I don't like the rule, you are FORCED to give the ball up. I think it should count as a turnover for the last person that touched the ball whether it was a receiver, running back or quarterback.

http://www.nfl.com/contact-us

 

[Nucker101]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

He does have very wobbly balls.

They do have a nice touch to them though....

 

[mbrasi]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

He does have very wobbly balls.

He's still erect in the pocket though

 

[Yenrub]

Come on Luck please throw accurate passes to TY

 

[Smack Tripper]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

 

[beef]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away. Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

He does have very wobbly balls.

He's still erect in the pocket though

Makes me erect too. Manning is the best ever.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

 

[tjnc09]

WTH is Denver doing?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Broncos offense looks bad

 

[Smack Tripper]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

Are you watching the game?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Never thought I'd see this

 

[SameSongNDance]

What is IND doing that's giving Peyton this much trouble?

 

[Yenrub]

Colts defense is playing really well right now....impressive

 

[conlilnew]

T-Rich is the worst 1st rd pick I have ever made. Sick to my stomach that I picked that turd. I have an offer out there for Fred Jackson from another owner. I'm jumping on it tomorrow. Brown is playing twice the amount of plays as Richardson.

 

[msudaisy26]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

This is sarcasm right? One bad half of football and you want to sell the guys from the highest scoring offense in the league?

 

[j3r3m3y]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

Are you watching the game?

Yep. We will see.

 

[weebs]

Stop throwing to Moreno every play. So bad

 

[Raider Nation]

Brock time.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@MaseDenver: Since the safety, Manning is 3-of-8 for 25 yards.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away.

Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

This is sarcasm right? One bad half of football and you want to sell the guys from the highest scoring offense in the league?

I see a guy who took a shot and can not throw right now.

 

[Steve Tasker]

He does have very wobbly balls.

He's still erect in the pocket though

I'd be worried if he wasn't erect in the pocket. It's just feels so natural, so right to be erect in there.

 

[Henry Ford]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away. Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

Are you watching the game?

Manning's thrown for 2 TDs already. Are you watching the game?

 

[Nucker101]

He does have very wobbly balls.

He's still erect in the pocket though

I'd be worried if he wasn't erect in the pocket. It's just feels so natural, so right to be erect in there.

It can get pretty tight in there.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Who is out the rest of the game?

Chump.

Come on man, don't bring FFA stuff in here, this is the football forum. Out of bounds with your comment.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Is Richardson hurt?

 

[Yenrub]

What is IND doing that's giving Peyton this much trouble?

They seem to be getting good pressure with just 4 guys and their DB's are covering really well

I don't think they are doing anything "special" like the Falcons did against Peyton last year

 

[j3r3m3y]

Who is out the rest of the game?

Chump.

Come on man, don't bring FFA stuff in here, this is the football forum. Out of bounds with your comment.

In case you weren't kidding, I was referring to Champ Bailey.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Moreno turns back into a pumpkin once the passing game isn't working.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away. Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

Are you watching the game?

Manning's thrown for 2 TDs already. Are you watching the game?

So you think Peyton is throwing the same ball pre getting drilled in the neck?

This guy is 37 with reportedly some degree of Stenosis.

 

[Donnybrook]

Is Richardson hurt?

No just overrated.

 

[Nucker101]

Moreno turns back into a pumpkin once the passing game isn't working.

As would any Denver RB since they don't really have a workhorse back that can make multiple defenders miss carrying the rock 15+ times a game. I know people will say Hillman, but he's a COP back IMO.

 

[monessen]

I think Manning's struggled since a Dallas defender grabbed his facemask and jerked his head, if you want to go back to a neck issue this season. The play-calling following that penalty changed a lot.

 

[Nucker101]

DRC's speed saved that one. Perfect guy to cover Hilton.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Luck needed to throw it even further

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Who is out the rest of the game?

Chump.

Come on man, don't bring FFA stuff in here, this is the football forum. Out of bounds with your comment.

In case you weren't kidding, I was referring to Champ Bailey.

I know.

 

[mad sweeney]

Hopefully in the 2nd half the refs stop letting the Colts D mug Denvers WR's

Okay I guess not. Collinsworth making excuses and saying it's Denvers fault that the Colts are playing "graby" and they should just get over it.

As long as they call it evenly. Every game has it's thresholds for fair and foul. If the DBs on one team are being given leeway, then the other team needs to adjust, both the WRs and the DBs.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think Manning's struggled since a Dallas defender grabbed his facemask and jerked his head, if you want to go back to a neck issue this season. The play-calling following that penalty changed a lot.

I think you're right now that I think about it....

 

[monessen]

Get Norris Weese ready. He'll bring a running dimension to the offense.

 

[Henry Ford]

Manning's arm looks dead... I wonder if thats why he's been game managing and handing off all night?

It's been like that for awhile, he makes up for it with his incredible football IQ, preparation, touch passes and adjustments.

No he got drilled in the neck on that sack...

Does his neck have a huge effect on his arm strength though? It could hurt his ability see the entire field if it stiffens up and force him to throw the ball quicker than he wants to if he's afraid of getting hit up high again, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on his zip on the ball. I could be way off though.

As i understand it, it definitely sapped his arm strength in his last year in Indy. The first six games of this year he seemed to have his old zip. I believe if there is any degree of spinal compression, you'll get an accompanying degree of limited feel/strength. It may be effectively a "stinger" and he'll be fine after some treatment, but I doubt it for the rest of this game. Going forward, who knows, but it just shows he's always, as much as any top tier guy, one hit away. Might be time to sell high on all the Denver guys apart from Demariyus who's not exactly high right now.

Selling Denver players now, I laugh.

Better to get out one game early rather than one game too late..

I just think you will be eating crow, possibly tonight. Let's see how the game goes.

Are you watching the game?

Manning's thrown for 2 TDs already. Are you watching the game?

So you think Peyton is throwing the same ball pre getting drilled in the neck?

This guy is 37 with reportedly some degree of Stenosis.

Yeah, I bet it hurt getting drilled in the neck. It's not the end of his season.

And if his deep ball suffers, why in the world would you sell his TE?