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Denver DL Elvis Dumervil (1 Viewer)
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Nice start to be sure. Still, I'm not sure I'm buying the situational pass rusher who explodes against OAK and CLE except in big play leagues. Will be interesting to see how he handles teams rolling protection his way. He's definitely seems to have that Dwight Freeney-like ability to rack up sacks wherever he goes.
I still don't understand why MFL changed his position from DE to DT awhile back.
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Footballguy
The only reason I'm looking at him is for his DT designation.
he's listed at 5'11", 260lbs. I really doubt he's getting any significant snaps at DT. makes very little sense to me.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I think I saw one of his sacks on the ride home today and he was standing up outside the tackle. It was a nine inch TV in a van with bad shocks though, so take that FWIW.
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Footballguy
Don't let MFL know.
bonscott
Footballguy
They match up with the official team roster. So at least at one point Denver listed him as DT. If that's not the case anymore you can contact them with proof and they will change it if Denver now officialy lists him as a DE.Don't let MFL know.
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this sucks.
I took Dumervil off my practice squad in a league to use him at DT.
Then, this week MFL changes his position to DE.
This is obviously his correct position so I guess it's good that they corrected it, but I still have no idea why they ever put him at DT in the first place.
I took Dumervil off my practice squad in a league to use him at DT.
Then, this week MFL changes his position to DE.
This is obviously his correct position so I guess it's good that they corrected it, but I still have no idea why they ever put him at DT in the first place.
onionsack
Footballguy
Now you don't have to feel dirty playing a DE at DT.
I applaud MFL for making the switch: Dumervil at DT is to IDPs what Colston at TE is to IOPs. 
bonscott
Footballguy
I would suggest you guys get some rules around position changes. In the leagues I'm in, the position the player is at on your roster at the time of the final 53 man cutdowns and MFL's update (usually right before the season) is their position for the entire season. Your commish can easily change someone's position.
So for example in my league I drafted Greg Ellis and he was a DE. He stayed a DE until a couple weeks ago when he was updated to LB. But since he was a DE on my roster when the season started the commish changed him back to a DE. Same thing would apply to Dumerville, if we separated DE and DT.
FYI that MFL simply uses the official team rosters as found on the official team web sites. So at the beginning of the season Ellis was a DE but a few weeks later the Cowboys changed him to a LB. Dumerville was listed as a DT on the official Broncos site at the beginning of the season and many weeks after and just recently updated him to a DE.
Thus MFL *will* update a players position *if* someone lets them know about it.
So for example in my league I drafted Greg Ellis and he was a DE. He stayed a DE until a couple weeks ago when he was updated to LB. But since he was a DE on my roster when the season started the commish changed him back to a DE. Same thing would apply to Dumerville, if we separated DE and DT.
FYI that MFL simply uses the official team rosters as found on the official team web sites. So at the beginning of the season Ellis was a DE but a few weeks later the Cowboys changed him to a LB. Dumerville was listed as a DT on the official Broncos site at the beginning of the season and many weeks after and just recently updated him to a DE.
Thus MFL *will* update a players position *if* someone lets them know about it.
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Then I have no idea why the Broncos listed him as a DT.I know MFL will update positions, but he was on my practice squad and I didn't really care that much. Not sure why the Broncos or MFL waited until after the Indy game to change it back to DE.
bonscott
Footballguy
I can tell you why, nobody let them know about it.
Someone posted on their message board about it late last week and they made the change this week (they make changes every Tuesday). So before last week nobody let them know about it. Most likely because until 3 weeks ago nobody heard of the guy and didn't care/bother to inform MFL.See this thread: http://sidelineleagues.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9060
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Very unlikely.
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Fullback Fro
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They changed it b/c an ahole of a commish in one of my leagues was playing me last week and he complained to MFL to have him changed before he played me.
bonscott
Footballguy
That's all fine but the basic premise is this:MFL goes by the official team roster sites after the 53 man cut downs before the season starts.After that if a players position changes someone needs to let them know. If the official team roster confirms this change they will make the change.Translation: Nobody let MFL know of Dumervil's change to DE until just last week. Thus why he's been a DT. If someone would have notified them 4 weeks ago (assuming Denver updated him to DE) then MFL would have changed him then, for example.
I'm aware of all that. I was simply countering your argument that "nobody ever heard of the guy". It's still stupid that Denver and MFL listed him as a DT to begin with.From my perspective though, I had no motivation to inform MFL of their mistake. Once the guy put up 5 sacks in 2 weeks and was still listed at DT, I needed a DT so I activated him from my practice squad. One week later and he was changed to DE, but I can't put him back on my practice squad so now I had to cut another player to pick up a replacement DT. It's not like he suddently went from playing DT to DE midseason. The guy always was and always will be a DE.
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bonscott
Footballguy
Yep, totally understand. Sorry if I was argumentative. I take it you don't you have any rules in your league about locking a player's position? In my league the commish would have to change him back to DT for the year since he was on your team already as a DT. We made this rule a couple years ago due to all the "hybrid" DE/LB players in the league that seemed to change at least once in the season.
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Position Changes: The default position for a player will be what myfantasyleague.com designates as the players official position. The position of each player will be reset to myfantasyleague.com designated position before Feb 1st of each year. In the event that an owner has a dispute concerning a player’s position, on any team’s roster, that owner can make a request for a position change. The challenge needs to be initiated after the initial CAP sheets are submitted and posted on or about March 1st but before the league payday of August 15th. The ability to challenge includes rookies from the most recent draft. The owner must email the League Commissioner with the following information: Players Name, NFL Team, The Players Current and New Position. Two references must be included that can verify that a player qualifies for a position other than how he is listed; those references being either a depth chart or official roster from nfl.com or his NFL Team's official web site. Once the change has been confirmed the Commissioner will notify both the Owner and the League Secretary. If a ruling is made in favor of the player moving to another position, the owner can opt to change his position, but must leave the player at the new position for the entire season.
Interesting note in the Sporting News this week on Dumervil and something I hadn't heard before:
"The Broncos initially tried him at tackle, thinking he might develop into a John Randle-style pass rusher. He struggled at the position and was moved to end, the position he is accustomed to."
guess that explains things.
"The Broncos initially tried him at tackle, thinking he might develop into a John Randle-style pass rusher. He struggled at the position and was moved to end, the position he is accustomed to."
guess that explains things.
