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[Coachese]

http://www.denverpost.com/extremes/ci_7095339

Henry says he will play Sunday

By Bill Williamson

The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 10/05/2007 03:42:00 PM MDT

It appears Broncos star running back Travis Henry will play Sunday against San Diego despite injury and legal problems.

After his fist practice of the week Friday, Henry proclaimed himself healthy, saying "I'm going to play Sunday."

Denver coach Mike Shanahan said also said Henry will play if he is fully recovered from ankle and knee injuries suffered last week at Indianapolis. Meanwhile, both Henry and Shanahan declined to elaborate on the news that Henry is suing the NFL to halt the release of a drug test that would result in the NFL suspending him for a year.

Henry is disputing the urine samples in a New York court. It seems the case will take weeks to unfold before the NFL decides to suspend Henry.

Meanwhile, Shanahan said star receiver Javon Walker will not play Sunday against the Chargers. Walker has a knee issue that will need a couple more weeks of recovery time. Brandon Stokley will start in Walker's place.

 

[3C's]

SYoung owners >

 

[statedogg]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

 

[sholditch]

Schefter just said the same on NFL Total Access

someone dropped him in my league. hoping this news escapes everyone else

 

[RBM]

Interesting

 

[Gopher State]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

I would not be shocked to see maybe 4 to six weeks for this to play out. Young owners not happy with this news.

 

[Marc Levin]

Someone dropped him in my league.

He musta got hold of whatever Henry had because both decisions are equally thoughtful.

 

[celticplague]

Fresh from the wires:

Proclaiming himself sufficiently recovered from the knee and ankle injuries that kept him out of practice for much of the week, Broncos tailback Travis Henry, who is facing a one-year ban from the league for a repeat violation of the substance abuse policy, said Friday that he intends to play in Sunday's game against the Chargers.

"I'm going to play Sunday," Henry said after Friday's practice, the only session in which he participated all week.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan also said that, barring any physical setback, Henry will be in the lineup against San Diego.

League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton

 

[joffer]

just thought i'd point out that 5 of the top 6 posts currently are about the Denver RB situation

 

[ImTheScientist]

You have to think Young, Sapp, and Bell cut into Henry's carries over the next few weeks as they prepair to be without him.

 

[packersfan]

You have to think Young, Sapp, and Bell cut into Henry's carries over the next few weeks as they prepair to be without him.

Only if Henry's hurt and limited in all probability. If he isn't, Shanahan will ride Henry into the ground. No reason to spare him now. The Broncos' No. 1 goal needs to be winning games, not preparing for life without Travis Henry.

 

[CA_7]

Didn't anohter Bronco say he was going to play last week?

All I am saying is pencil Henry in, don't take it as gospel

 

[packersfan]

Didn't anohter Bronco say he was going to play last week?

That's true but Shanahan never said Walker was going to play and he said today Henry will play barring any setbacks. And we've also gotten confirmation from Clayton and Shefter that Henry will play. Shefter is money for Broncos' info. I think the only way Henry doesn't play is if he suffers a physical setback at some point in the next 2 days. Otherwise, all signs point to him starting.

 

[SteelerMurf]

You have to think Young, Sapp, and Bell cut into Henry's carries over the next few weeks as they prepair to be without him.

I am thinking Shanny has known about this for a couple weeks already

 

[DumpTruck]

Anybody think Kevin Jones is still a better start over Henry after hearing this?

I'm torn between starting Foster / Tom Jones / Kev Jones or replacing one of them with Henry...

 

[The Jerk]

From the nearly 700 post original Henry thread on his case:

Some mysterious and provocative quotes from an Associated Press article located on nfl.com Broncos' Henry optimistic he will play Sunday:

Mike Shanahan:

Shanahan said Henry dropped by his house Thursday night and they chatted about the incident for around an hour. But he couldn't go into details about the conversation per NFL policy.

"Obviously, this is a very touchy situation," Shanahan said. "I can't go into as much detail as I'd like to. Let's let the due process take care of itself and I can explain the conversation I had and I can shoot you guys straight."

(snip)

Shanahan wouldn't comment on his level of disappointment with the situation.

"If I did say I was disappointed, it would kind of give you an idea of what I was thinking," Shanahan said. "One (day) I can explain it in more detail. Now is not the time.

"I'm not allowed to do that. Not to go a different direction, I want to tell you the truth, but if I can't tell you the truth about my conversation, why would I get into detail about it?"

Javon Walker:

Walker stuck up for Henry on Friday and cautioned about reading too much into the situation. "Nobody really knows the extent of it," Walker said. "We all trust Travis. Everybody on this team supports Travis. It's funny how a lot of things get blown out of proportion before everybody really knows what happens. He'll be with us the whole year. We're going to try to finish this thing strong."

Walker thought Henry would be vindicated in the end.

"We already know what the situation is," Walker said. "That will get put out at a later day and everybody will understand."

 

[David Yudkin]

It still remains to be seen what the Broncos will do with him on Sunday. No guarantee he has the same role or is fully available in their eyes.

 

[Restricted]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

 

[jonessed]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

 

[BaBastage]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

I would not be shocked to see maybe 4 to six weeks for this to play out. Young owners not happy with this news.

The crappy part is for the Henry owners who also managed to stash Young on their roster and now need to burn that extra roster spot as insurance. It wouldn't be so bad if it were after the bye week...

 

[Traders2001]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

I would not be shocked to see maybe 4 to six weeks for this to play out. Young owners not happy with this news.

Just enough time for Ricky to get reinstated and ready to play.

 

[Tanner9919]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.

its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

Angry at who? Maybe himself for being such a tool? Statement about what? Dopers are players too?

 

[laughinboy_2000]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

Who's he angry at? Himself?Look, Henry may play Sunday but his head will not be in the game. I'd be surprised if he goes over 80+ yards.

 

[Pocket Joker]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

Who's he angry at? Himself?Look, Henry may play Sunday but his head will not be in the game. I'd be surprised if he goes over 80+ yards.

I'll be surprised if he gets most of the carries. Face facts: he isn't in the Broncos long term plans anymore. They will get Young more involved, which means Henry will be less emphasized in the attack on Sunday.

 

[Marc Levin]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

Who's he angry at? Himself?Look, Henry may play Sunday but his head will not be in the game. I'd be surprised if he goes over 80+ yards.

I'll be surprised if he gets most of the carries. Face facts: he isn't in the Broncos long term plans anymore. They will get Young more involved, which means Henry will be less emphasized in the attack on Sunday.

You clearly do not understand the way mike shanahan coaches.

 

[BigRed]

ie just another year in Denver. lol

Henry cut in our league and with weak RBs I'm tempted as hell to get and start him - shame on me, should know better after being burned back in the TD/O Gary days.

 

[RBM]

150 and 2 tds for Henry Sunday

 

[oukurt]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

I would not be shocked to see maybe 4 to six weeks for this to play out. Young owners not happy with this news.

Another way to look at it is I landed the starting RB in Denver for the fantasy playoff run and I got him for nothing.My glass is half full.

 

[oukurt]

PLaying Sunday confirmed by John Clayton on ESPN.com and John estimates a month for the courts to act on Henry's suit.

I would not be shocked to see maybe 4 to six weeks for this to play out. Young owners not happy with this news.

Just enough time for Ricky to get reinstated and ready to play.

The funny part is that you believe it.

 

[BigRed]

The funny part is that you believe it.

The whole thing and esp FFer's reactions to it has actually presented a fair amount of amusement.

 

[Restricted]

Angry at who? Maybe himself for being such a tool? Statement about what? Dopers are players too?

It's going to be his last game for 12 months. He's going to want to take some people with him. Look for him to run hard and destructively.

 

[Dought Man]

You have to think Young, Sapp, and Bell cut into Henry's carries over the next few weeks as they prepair to be without him.

good spin!All this really means is a huge rbbc in denver. No one is going to be helping any of our fantasy teams win ball games. I would like to think Shanahan will run Henry into the ground, as he will likely be gone in 3-4 weeks. Hard to start any of the denver RB's this week with confidence that they can get you 12-15 points.

 

[moondawg]

If he gets suspended for a year(at least) the Broncos will cut him. He has only received 3M of his 12M signing bonus. They can recover 1.2M of that so the cap hit to cut him is minor.

 

[SSOG]

ie just another year in Denver. lolHenry cut in our league and with weak RBs I'm tempted as hell to get and start him - shame on me, should know better after being burned back in the TD/O Gary days.

Oh yeah, I can totally see how grabbing the NFL's leading rusher and starting him this week might possibly not be worth the headaches of... what, exactly? If he busts, what did you lose, again? I'm sure this makes sense somehow, but I'm just failing to see it.Geesh, next thing I know you'll say that if someone dropped TO you wouldn't pick him up because he whines on the sidelines sometimes.

 

[BigRed]

Oh yeah, I can totally see how grabbing the NFL's leading rusher and starting him this week might possibly not be worth the headaches of... what, exactly? If he busts, what did you lose, again?

um since I would only pick him up to start him, how about another game, again? I'm 1-3 and can hardly afford another low/no production week from RBs who are SUPPOSED to do well. And FYI DEN (Shanny) isn't exactly a traditional hotbed of consistency or predictability RB touches-wise.

I'm sure this makes sense somehow, but I'm just failing to see it.

np I've been saying that about the entire season so join the club.

Geesh, next thing I know you'll say that if someone dropped TO you wouldn't pick him up because he whines on the sidelines sometimes.

Good comparison

 

[SteelerMurf]

Henry's going to play Sunday angry and looking to make a statement. Watch out.

Who's he angry at? Himself?Look, Henry may play Sunday but his head will not be in the game. I'd be surprised if he goes over 80+ yards.

Henry has known about this problem last week too.....130+ yards later....

 

[Big Score]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.

its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Not sure where you're getting that it'll take until the end of the season for this to get sorted out.

League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton

Every source I've come across says the same. The Henry suspension will be decided within the next four weeks & some are even saying that it could be decided within the next two weeks.Being that we're not even through week 5 yet, Henry's fate should be decided somewhere from week 6 through to week 8.

 

[heidbrink]

...and given week 6 is a Denver bye, this could very well be the end of the story (this year) for Henry.

 

[Club Leftwich]

I could definitely see Shanny riding Henry one more game and then using the off week to get Selvin ready to be the man.

 

[LordOpie]

Why do you people think that Shanny will bench/suspend/inactive Henry before the league does? Why do you think Young will play significantly more than he has been before the official suspension?

 

[bigupsetter]

most of these posts are nonsensical. there is no way shanny is benching the leagues leading rusher unless he has to. i.e. injury or suspension. even though he he plays musical rb's, he always goes with the hot hand and henry is definitely that. let's not look too into this yet, denver won't do anything until the league does. now i'm not saying don't grab selvin while you can, as you should, especially if you are a henry owner. i am, and cuffed selvin with my last pick in the draft. i think that denver will run the s**t out of henry until the suspension happens and it will happen. pay closer attention to the injury report than the media news- henry's suspension could take a few more weeks to materialize as he is adamant about fighting it.

 

[JTM]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

 

[LordOpie]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

Except that the Broncos won't release the funds. They'll keep it in escrow. And if Henry is busted, they'll go after the money they've already paid in signing bonus.Henry will receive no more bonus money until and unless he is cleared.

 

[JTM]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

Except that the Broncos won't release the funds. They'll keep it in escrow. And if Henry is busted, they'll go after the money they've already paid in signing bonus.Henry will receive no more bonus money until and unless he is cleared.

Neither of us are experts on the collective bargaining agreement, but I'd put my money on the Player's Union having something to say about withholding funds from a player that has yet to be delivered a league penalty. The Broncos may ultimately get it back, but if I'm Henry that money is going into an account for as long as possible and bearing a little interest before I give it back...

 

[Marc Levin]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

Except that the Broncos won't release the funds. They'll keep it in escrow. And if Henry is busted, they'll go after the money they've already paid in signing bonus.Henry will receive no more bonus money until and unless he is cleared.

Neither of us are experts on the collective bargaining agreement, but I'd put my money on the Player's Union having something to say about withholding funds from a player that has yet to be delivered a league penalty. The Broncos may ultimately get it back, but if I'm Henry that money is going into an account for as long as possible and bearing a little interest before I give it back...

Henry gets the signing bonus as long as he's on the roster - once he is suspended, they can withhold his bonus and not before that point.

 

[Max Power]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

Except that the Broncos won't release the funds. They'll keep it in escrow. And if Henry is busted, they'll go after the money they've already paid in signing bonus.Henry will receive no more bonus money until and unless he is cleared.

Neither of us are experts on the collective bargaining agreement, but I'd put my money on the Player's Union having something to say about withholding funds from a player that has yet to be delivered a league penalty. The Broncos may ultimately get it back, but if I'm Henry that money is going into an account for as long as possible and bearing a little interest before I give it back...

from my understanding Henry had two ways to handle his appeal...through the players union and through the court system and he choose the Courts. I would think something like this would set a bad precedent for future cases. Again I have no idea how this stuff actually works, but it seems like Henry dismissed the Players union and went his own way. I dont see why the same union would break its back to get him his bonus money.

 

[The Jerk]

from my understanding Henry had two ways to handle his appeal...through the players union and through the court system and he choose the Courts. I would think something like this would set a bad precedent for future cases. Again I have no idea how this stuff actually works, but it seems like Henry dismissed the Players union and went his own way. I dont see why the same union would break its back to get him his bonus money.

I don't know that your understanding is correct, but I'll accept that either way.The union will help Henry because:1. It's what unions do.2. The players know that at some point the owners might be trying to take away their money next.I don't think they will necessarily defend the drug test, drug use angle. However, they will do whatever they can to prevent bonus money from being returned.It's not so much a "we must stand up for Travis Henry thing" as much as it is a "we must stand up for the players as a whole" thing.

 

[Big Score]

Clayton also said Henry has little or no chance of winning the case in court, so , wil his lawyers just advise him to take the suspension ASAP? if he takes it now, he can come back,week 6 of 2008.if he waits till the end of 2007, he will miss ALL of 2008 while suspended, and won't see the field until 2009..He'll turn 31 in Oct, 2009.its a tough call for him to make, but I'd rather get the suspension underway now, and play out the next 3-4 years, rather than be suspended in week 15, for instance, and have to sit out until week 16, 2008, and my first full season back,wont be until I'm 31..the season is young still, take the suspension now so you can play 2/3rds of next season,and beyond.

Henry's signing bonus is being paid out over the course of this season--I believe +/-$2 million per month. The ONLY POSSIBLE way he gets to keep it is by collecting it first. Henry plays for as long as he can this season...

Except that the Broncos won't release the funds. They'll keep it in escrow. And if Henry is busted, they'll go after the money they've already paid in signing bonus.Henry will receive no more bonus money until and unless he is cleared.

Neither of us are experts on the collective bargaining agreement, but I'd put my money on the Player's Union having something to say about withholding funds from a player that has yet to be delivered a league penalty. The Broncos may ultimately get it back, but if I'm Henry that money is going into an account for as long as possible and bearing a little interest before I give it back...

from my understanding Henry had two ways to handle his appeal...through the players union and through the court system and he choose the Courts. I would think something like this would set a bad precedent for future cases. Again I have no idea how this stuff actually works, but it seems like Henry dismissed the Players union and went his own way. I dont see why the same union would break its back to get him his bonus money.

Well you're almost right in your take, except that he's using the Courts to try & suppress the NFL from being able to even use the results from Sample B (control sample) to suspend him.That's plan A of Henry's attempt to avoid suspension.However, the NFL has already flanked Henry's Plan A, by going to a higher Court (Federal) & having the Lower Courts Temporary Restraining Order vacated & moving it to another venue where Labor Laws are heard, so that they will indeed be able to use the results from Sample B.Once the NFL gets the case heard & ruled on (slam dunk they win it), that's when the NFL will suspend him for the year.This is where plan B of Henry's attempt to avoid suspension comes into play. That will be to appeal the suspension handed to him by the NFL through the Players Union.However, plan B has a snowballs chance, as his appeal will be heard by Roger "The Hammer" Goodell.

 

[taco breath]

sweet, ill make my roster adjustments.