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DeSean Jackson Broke? (1 Viewer)
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Tony Reali
Footballguy
This guy went to one of the best colleges in the world for free, and didn't have the honor to say their name in his player intros, instead identifying his high school
#### him
#### him
BallparkFrank
Footballguy
Did Cal teach him that using one of DR's credit cards because he doesn't have any cash was a good idea?
No wonder he's scared of his own shadow on the field - if he doesn't get another big payday, he's screwed!
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
At least Drew Rosenhaus knows what it's like to have an annoying leech attached to him. He's been on the other side of that equation for too long.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
To his defense, I doubt he has a degree from Cal but he does have a degree from his high school. Maybe he didn't wanna be pretentious.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
if it makes you feel any better he probably went to that high school for free too.
Tony Reali
Footballguy
No, he says Cal now. He didn't before. And even if he didn't get a degree, which he didn't, he should be honored to go to a school like that, because if he didn't have football he probably would have gone to community college.
davidbostonsbicepsfan
Footballguy
sounds about right
Hedgehog
Footballguy
I dont get guys like Hillis and D JAx - they played there way into a looming big payday and insteaed of keeping the pedal to the ground and have a great contract season they cry, moan, alienate their team and sit out with nagging injuries - who is going to give these guys big deals now? Dumb.
well in Desean's case he has played great for them and than in the off-season they spent over 100 million dollars on other players, but did not even take the time to make his contract better... you'd probably feel that way too when you have played your heart out for a team, and have really been a big part of their success as a "high flying " offensebut that is just my two sense
nysportsfan
Footballguy
You hate Miles Austin, too?
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Every check Desean receives, a cut is automatically given to Rosenhaus I would think.. I question this BS report
And let's not talk about a man's $ when you're sitting on the couch watching. Hillis is a RB who's life span in the NFL is so short.. He just made the mistake of letting things get out. He shouldve just held out. Jackson too. Both are under paid for production..
With that being said.. Hillis has put together one solid year so I get why the Browns are hesitant and the fact RB has become a position where pay days have gone down drastically bc of the multi Tailback system.
Desean Ive read has become a problem which means he'll get nothing from the eagles and test FA. He wont get as much from the Eagles as other teams Im guessing but is making himself look bad by not being accountable. I have to believe his suspension wasnt just bc of the one missed meeting.. He's ####### up his money. Ive always questioned his intelligence which is sad bc he went to Cal. Rosenhaus isnt doing a good job though and if he is Desean isnt listening.
On the other hand.. How can the Bears not pony up the dough for Forte who's also underpaid but doing his job. Bears are cheap skates... he'll get a nice contract from another team though Ive read they'll franchise him. Lousy management.
And let's not talk about a man's $ when you're sitting on the couch watching. Hillis is a RB who's life span in the NFL is so short.. He just made the mistake of letting things get out. He shouldve just held out. Jackson too. Both are under paid for production..
With that being said.. Hillis has put together one solid year so I get why the Browns are hesitant and the fact RB has become a position where pay days have gone down drastically bc of the multi Tailback system.
Desean Ive read has become a problem which means he'll get nothing from the eagles and test FA. He wont get as much from the Eagles as other teams Im guessing but is making himself look bad by not being accountable. I have to believe his suspension wasnt just bc of the one missed meeting.. He's ####### up his money. Ive always questioned his intelligence which is sad bc he went to Cal. Rosenhaus isnt doing a good job though and if he is Desean isnt listening.
On the other hand.. How can the Bears not pony up the dough for Forte who's also underpaid but doing his job. Bears are cheap skates... he'll get a nice contract from another team though Ive read they'll franchise him. Lousy management.
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habsfan
Footballguy
I don't think it's that difficult to picture the situation in Philly "post DeSean". The relationship seems to have soured and I would let the guy walk.
Dought Man
Footballguy
No, its actually quite smart from a straight business perspective. Pay as little as possible for the best possible players.
49erFan77
Footballguy
the redskins
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
One would think that's a smart thing to do but you should reward players for their performance. Let's say he gets a better deal from some other team and Forte leaves, you are losing your whole offense. It's a stupid risk imo.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
Do you think other Cal grads think the same way as you? I bet it's the opposite.
Warpig
Footballguy
That's more like it. He doesn't seem bright enough or motivated enough to actually educate himself.
Nothing throws fear into the heart of an opponent like "MONMOUTH COLLEGE"...I would mention St. Mary's School for the Blind in Piscataway, before Monmouth.'nysportsfan said:
Bears fan here...I think Forte deserves more but I also think it's a smart play by the Bears. Why invest that much too soon and risk him being hurt? This way we get him for another yr to show us he's a not a CJ Bust. Plus there are a ton of FA Rb this yr to look at.'money.never.sleeps said:
massraider
Footballguy
I don't like what he says when they do the video introductions on nationally televised games, so screw him.
Seriously, look at that statement. How dumb does that look?
Seriously, look at that statement. How dumb does that look?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Really stupid and offensive. He is not dumb. You can say he is immature or not motivated, but he is not stupid. His SAT score was 1280 on a 1600 point scale according to Scout.com, with a 3.0 HS GPA. I know plenty of college kids at prestigious universities who would rather play Xbox all day. Really, man. Really.'Warpig said:
BallparkFrank
Footballguy
He's been sucking it up all season!Having only two senses, I commend you for being here'DeaLerZ said:Sure the Eagles spent a lot in FA but DJ was not a FA. If he plays well, DJ will get his $. He just needed to suck it up and play the game like he has in years past.
Reepicheep
Footballguy
I would rank it about an 8/10 on the dumb-lookingness scale.
Kleck
Footballguy
I agree. Maclin (2013), Avant (2014) and Celek (2016) are locked up, and if any WR deserves an extension it's Maclin, IMO. Steve Smith could probably be brought back for a whole lot less too, and I don't think a Maclin, Avant, Smith, Celek receiving corps is that bad. Also, McCoy's contract is up after 2012 and will only make $575K next year. I'd be looking to extend him, or saving some money for him, before giving Jackson a new deal.'habsfan said:
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benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
The Bears did offer him a contract with millions of guaranteed money. He didn't like it and decided to play out the season. The Bears have a 0% chance of not having Forte on the roster next year because of the FRANCHISE TAG. Some of you Madden/FF people don't get real football.'LargeMouthBass said:
A great man once said "Stupid is as stupid does"
This is bull****. Average NFL career for a running back is so short. Pay the Man!!!!!!! And CJ bust? Little early for that.
Rewarding players for past performance is the exact wrong approach. The cruel truth is that Forte's future performance is easy to downgrade, due to the risk of injury and age-related decline, both of which are especially prevalent for RBs. The longer the Bears can take it year to year, the better off they are.Stinks for Forte, but that's the system the players have agreed to through the CBA.'LargeMouthBass said:
CravenM
Footballguy
I'm not an employment lawyer but I have written payroll systems before. And I thought there were only a few things that could "automatically" be taken out of a paycheck - taxes, insurance, garnished wages and other things like that. I didn't think debts or other employee-declared expenses could automatically come out.This would mean that the player is supposed to cut a check each pay period.Perhaps somebody knows more about this than I do though - it would be interesting to know.'money.never.sleeps said:
Did you read what you just wrote?The average NFL career for a running back is so short... so therefore the Bears should pay up for a guy that could be out of the league at any time?Why should the Bears be left holding the bag if/when that short career comes to a screeching halt?
jackdubl
Footballguy
This is the problem with runningback contracts. They are pretty much always a declining commodity, unlike most other positions.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Its only smart if you can keep all the best players around long enough to win a SB and or be in contention..which the Bears have managed to do decently but its known around the league that the Bears have always shown a lack of loyalty to players as a whole. Guarantee if they lost Forte they'd prob. wish they'd have come to terms. Cutler cant do anything on his own with that sorry line and those WR's. I'd rather come to terms with a guy that the whole offense revolves around who in tern consistently produces then to just give him a franchise tag and him be pissed and ready to bounce. I understand you pay a guy for what he's done and future production. Its about age and consistency but you cant tell me they shouldnt lock this guy up for at least 4 years and give him decent money. They can cut him at any point.'Dought Man said:
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money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
I do know that some companies will allocate funds. IE child support, debt.. but I wasnt sure. I just figured a system was in place but was guessing.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Wat?'Tony Reali said:
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Those schools make a lot of money off their athletic programs. Let's not go acting like it was a act of charity having DeSean Jackson at Berkeley. If he didn't graduate, it makes as much sense to cite where you played and have a piece of paper from as it does the last place you played.It's is pretty ridiculous how some of these guys can't get out of their own way when it comes to their own best interest. It's about demonstrating all the value you possible can add to the team. Whining and being a drag on morale in an environment where the team is scrapping just to keep their season alive? What team is going to see that and think, hey, we should give this guy more money. Especially in a what have you done for me lately league where he hasn't exactly set the league on fire this year. He should be showing humility and going the extra mile rather than doing the opposite.And I'm certainly not attacking his intelligence. Just how he's handling this situation.
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Very few NCAA athletic programs make money.About the only person getting rich off of someone like DeSean Jackson is the head coach that recruited him.For their part, the players get a world-class education, and an opportunity to advance a dream of playing in the NFL.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Sorry, the FOOTBALL programs make them money, and fund the other sports. And give them exposure. And hopefully make them competitive. Again, let's not go acting like these schools are just being charitable to football players who get scholarships. Pretty sure 1280 doesn't warrant a full ride at a school like UC - Berkeley.
jackdubl
Footballguy
No argument there. You can be smart and still be a punk.
BallparkFrank
Footballguy
Zero heart and no hands are a horrible combination for an NFL WR. This guy is done in Philly! 
mr roboto
Footballguy
I really hope you are the PR rep for the NCAA. Or a fisherman. Cause option 3 is not flattering.CFB has a MONOPOLY on football players.
They are artificially kept in the college system because the NFL won't take them out of HS.
There are NO other 'minor league' systems in football to develop talent.
Most players DO NOT receive a 'world class' education. Many don't graduate, or are given so many breaks to stay on the team it's not even funny.
The winners are CLEARLY the colleges, their sponsors, the TV networks, the agents etc. Not the kids. Any unbiased observer would agree.
Rick James
Footballguy
This is a rather ridiculous argument. I'd bet almost 75% of all NCAA college football players wouldn't have the test scores to get into most colleges if they couldn't play football.
CFB has a MONOPOLY on football players.
They are artificially kept in the college system because the NFL won't take them out of HS.
There are NO other 'minor league' systems in football to develop talent.
Most players DO NOT receive a 'world class' education. Many don't graduate, or are given so many breaks to stay on the team it's not even funny.
The winners are CLEARLY the colleges, their sponsors, the TV networks, the agents etc. Not the kids. Any unbiased observer would agree.
mr roboto
Footballguy
I agree. They get to get into a world class college. That's not the same as getting a world class education.This is a rather ridiculous argument. I'd bet almost 75% of all NCAA college football players wouldn't have the test scores to get into most colleges if they couldn't play football.
CFB has a MONOPOLY on football players.
They are artificially kept in the college system because the NFL won't take them out of HS.
There are NO other 'minor league' systems in football to develop talent.
Most players DO NOT receive a 'world class' education. Many don't graduate, or are given so many breaks to stay on the team it's not even funny.
The winners are CLEARLY the colleges, their sponsors, the TV networks, the agents etc. Not the kids. Any unbiased observer would agree.
Diamond One
Footballguy
So does this mean his fantasy value going forward is negative?
Sorry, couldn't help it...
Sorry, couldn't help it...
All players are given the opportunity to receive a world class education. What they make of that opportunity is up to them.
Yep just look at all the kids that regret accepting that schollie and playing D-1 football. Such a raw deal they got. They'll be regretting doing it the rest of their lives I bet.
