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DET Lions... first win week 14? (1 Viewer)

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The first time these 2 met it was 10-12 in favor of MIN...

MIN could be missing their two DTs as well...

What do you all think? As bad as DET is, and as much as I'd love to see them go 0-16, I'm tempted to pick them to win this week!

 
Doctor DR said:
The first time these 2 met it was 10-12 in favor of MIN... MIN could be missing their two DTs as well...What do you all think? As bad as DET is, and as much as I'd love to see them go 0-16, I'm tempted to pick them to win this week!
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There is no way that team I watched on Thanksgiving can beat another NFL team. Certainly not a team that features the best running back in football.
 
While you have to love the Culpepper against his old team, you still have to remember that it's a different Culpepper at QB than who was with Minn years back.

Culpepper has little left in the tank. He is a big strong QB who has limited vision and suspect OL protecting him. He has little time to drop back and hit is talented WR Calvin Johnson. Any average QB would make CJ top 5. Culpepper makes him marginal Top 10 based on CJ's talent alone.

Det has too many holes on Def to stop Min Running game and ADP. Mix in some Chester Taylor and Det will struggle to hold the ball. Min DL has depth. Missing 2 is not a good thing, but that is 2 of the 8 in the box causing destruction behind the Det OL.

I don't see it. Det might well score some nice points, but I don't see them winning.

 
There is no question that if DET wins a game it will be very shocking and unpredictable to everyone. It would seem that this week and week 16 at home against the Saints are likely their two best remaining chances at a win.

I honestly don't think they stand a chance to win a game. Their offense is decent at times, but their defense is beyond horrible. If they had a decent rush D, I would give them a chance but every team just runs all over them. If you can run on a team and not risk turnovers as much as you would passing, then you are probably going to win the game.

0-16 here they come

 
I have seen two abysmal teams in the second half of the season. The Rams amd The Lions. Detroit was awful at home on Thanksgiving,Minnesota,on Monday, looked like the team they were supposed to be when the season started. A previous post was correct,IF The Lions win a game this year it will be a big surprise and obvious upset. What bigger surprise than this week? How about a 50+ yard field goal with no time left to win? This is the week!

 
The Vikings could bring back Robert Smith and he would toss a 100 yd 2 TD game on the Lions. Heck, I think Robert Smith from the Cure could score on the Lions. :2cents:

 
I hope the Lions can pick up a win either this week or next. then I won't have to be so scared about giving them their only win when they play my Saints in week 16. :unsure:

 
It's this week or New Orleans.

And I guess the Tampa Bay Bucs can pop a Shasta if the Lions get past 0-14.

 
When the Williams' are suspended later today I'll give them a fighter's chance. It's this week or not at all though, I don't think they can score enough points to keep up with the Saints.

 
This is easily their most winnable game. They should have defeated the Vikings in Minnesota if not for some questionable penalties at the end. I think it's their best chance.

They also play NO at home, but Brees plays well indoors. Even if their D falls apart I think the Saints would outscore the Lions.

If the Packers secure a wildcard spot (or the division somehow), they might rest their players in week 17. Those are both longshots, as either scenario would likely require a victory in that last week. But even if it happened, their backups might beat the Lions in Green Bay.

With the extra time off, I say they take the Vikings to OT. Where it goes form there is anybody's guess.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
This is easily their most winnable game. They should have defeated the Vikings in Minnesota if not for some questionable penalties at the end. I think it's their best chance.

They also play NO at home, but Brees plays well indoors. Even if their D falls apart I think the Saints would outscore the Lions.

If the Packers secure a wildcard spot (or the division somehow), they might rest their players in week 17. Those are both longshots, as either scenario would likely require a victory in that last week. But even if it happened, their backups might beat the Lions in Green Bay.

With the extra time off, I say they take the Vikings to OT. Where it goes form there is anybody's guess.
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Home field is obviously not an advantage for the Lions. It's as quiet as a graveyard at Ford Field lately, and the MIN and NO games will probably be at least 5k short of a sellout.Any win in the remaining 4 games would be a complete shock.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
This is easily their most winnable game. They should have defeated the Vikings in Minnesota if not for some questionable penalties at the end. I think it's their best chance.They also play NO at home, but Brees plays well indoors. Even if their D falls apart I think the Saints would outscore the Lions. If the Packers secure a wildcard spot (or the division somehow), they might rest their players in week 17. Those are both longshots, as either scenario would likely require a victory in that last week. But even if it happened, their backups might beat the Lions in Green Bay.With the extra time off, I say they take the Vikings to OT. Where it goes form there is anybody's guess.
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Why is this game the most winnable? Lions already played the Packers hard in week 2, where only a pick six after a long Jackson run secured the win... with 3 minutes left to go in the game! Culpepper will have more time to work with the offense, and if the Lions are 0-15 they will be fighting for the last shred of dignity they have left, even if it's already in the trash can. The Lions hung 25 points on the Packers defense. The Vikings held them to half that...the Vikings defense is keeping them in this season.The Packers are the worst team left on their schedule. The Lions would have a better shot this week should the Williams' get suspended, however, but if not, then they will have a much better chance against the Pack. The Vikings are certainly NOT looking past the Lions thanks to the scare earlier in the year. The Vikings are not playing the same ball they did early in the season. The goal line stand followed up by a 99 yard TD pass shows that the Vikings are more than capable of stopping things before they are too far gone, and losing this week would be the very definition of letting the flood gates open.
 
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Detroit beating anyone this year would be a miracle. I'd be shocked if they kept the Vikes, or really anyone remaining on their schedule, within 2 scores.

 
ScottyFargo said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
This is easily their most winnable game. They should have defeated the Vikings in Minnesota if not for some questionable penalties at the end. I think it's their best chance.They also play NO at home, but Brees plays well indoors. Even if their D falls apart I think the Saints would outscore the Lions. If the Packers secure a wildcard spot (or the division somehow), they might rest their players in week 17. Those are both longshots, as either scenario would likely require a victory in that last week. But even if it happened, their backups might beat the Lions in Green Bay.With the extra time off, I say they take the Vikings to OT. Where it goes form there is anybody's guess.
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Why is this game the most winnable? Lions already played the Packers hard in week 2, where only a pick six after a long Jackson run secured the win... with 3 minutes left to go in the game! Culpepper will have more time to work with the offense, and if the Lions are 0-15 they will be fighting for the last shred of dignity they have left, even if it's already in the trash can. The Lions hung 25 points on the Packers defense. The Vikings held them to half that...the Vikings defense is keeping them in this season.The Packers are the worst team left on their schedule. The Lions would have a better shot this week should the Williams' get suspended, however, but if not, then they will have a much better chance against the Pack. The Vikings are certainly NOT looking past the Lions thanks to the scare earlier in the year. The Vikings are not playing the same ball they did early in the season. The goal line stand followed up by a 99 yard TD pass shows that the Vikings are more than capable of stopping things before they are too far gone, and losing this week would be the very definition of letting the flood gates open.
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I don't see the Lions winning this game, because they NEVER win at Lambeau. I think they've lost something like 17 straight times there. And even if the Packers have already secured their playoff position, they're not going to be the Lion's only victory. They'll treat that like a playoff game, just to make sure their rival doesn't get off the hook.
 
:rolleyes: Commish must love the Lions.

Takes out DL in Detroits next two games.

CPep to CJ2

vs

NO & Minny's offense.

Could happen.

 
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' said:
There is no question that if DET wins a game it will be very shocking and unpredictable to everyone. It would seem that this week and week 16 at home against the Saints are likely their two best remaining chances at a win.I honestly don't think they stand a chance to win a game. Their offense is decent at times, but their defense is beyond horrible. If they had a decent rush D, I would give them a chance but every team just runs all over them. If you can run on a team and not risk turnovers as much as you would passing, then you are probably going to win the game.0-16 here they come
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Detroit will only win if the NFL front office determines the best interest of the league is to not have a winless team.A few strategic penalties wiping out their opponents TDs will indicate the fix is in.
 
Obie Wan said:
Detroit will only win if the NFL front office determines the best interest of the league is to not have a winless team.A few strategic penalties wiping out their opponents TDs will indicate the fix is in.
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With all the legal problems & suspensions on their players they don't want to have one of their teams being a national joke.
 
Obie Wan said:
' said:
There is no question that if DET wins a game it will be very shocking and unpredictable to everyone. It would seem that this week and week 16 at home against the Saints are likely their two best remaining chances at a win.I honestly don't think they stand a chance to win a game. Their offense is decent at times, but their defense is beyond horrible. If they had a decent rush D, I would give them a chance but every team just runs all over them. If you can run on a team and not risk turnovers as much as you would passing, then you are probably going to win the game.0-16 here they come
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Detroit will only win if the NFL front office determines the best interest of the league is to not have a winless team.A few strategic penalties wiping out their opponents TDs will indicate the fix is in.
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Like a questionable PI call?Oh wait...that gave Minny the first win over the Lions.I love Scotty telling us how close they were with the Packers but forgetting how Minny got in position to win that game against Detroit.That said...I don't think Detroit wins this week. ADP and Chester might put up 350 yards on that pitiful defense.
 
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As a Viking homer this is a typical trap game for us

We coming off a big win against the Bears

Were in first place

We have issues this week with the William boys in the press/suspended?

I can see the Vikes getting upset in this one, CJ may kill the Vikes pass defense with plays

 
I'm picking them for my pools this week. I think missing the Williams boys will hurt them too much.

I am real skeptical, but I think it's possible

 
T.A. said:
Latest on the William boys?
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I have to think the Vikes , knowing this could come down for weeks, have been planning around not having them. This isn't some MRI on both Williams they just found out about. It hurts, but here's where depth counts... also they get Kevin Smith and Tim Hightower for 2 weeks, until they face Turner/Norwood.Appeals aside.
 
Gopher State said:
As a Viking homer this is a typical trap game for usWe coming off a big win against the BearsWere in first placeWe have issues this week with the William boys in the press/suspended?I can see the Vikes getting upset in this one, CJ may kill the Vikes pass defense with plays
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very :confused:
 
Gopher State said:
As a Viking homer this is a typical trap game for usWe coming off a big win against the BearsWere in first placeWe have issues this week with the William boys in the press/suspended?I can see the Vikes getting upset in this one, CJ may kill the Vikes pass defense with plays
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Agree 100% i thin kthey look past them
 
shakeybarn said:
T.A. said:
Latest on the William boys?
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I have to think the Vikes , knowing this could come down for weeks, have been planning around not having them. This isn't some MRI on both Williams they just found out about. It hurts, but here's where depth counts... also they get Kevin Smith and Tim Hightower for 2 weeks, until they face Turner/Norwood.Appeals aside.
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You can plan for this and think you have depth...but they have no depth to replace those 2.Those two are a huge reason for the success of that defense.
 
Doctor DR said:
The first time these 2 met it was 10-12 in favor of MIN... MIN could be missing their two DTs as well...What do you all think? As bad as DET is, and as much as I'd love to see them go 0-16, I'm tempted to pick them to win this week!
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Detroit Kittens will go 0-16..but do indeed pick them..matches you perfect!
 
sho nuff said:
shakeybarn said:
T.A. said:
Latest on the William boys?
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I have to think the Vikes , knowing this could come down for weeks, have been planning around not having them. This isn't some MRI on both Williams they just found out about. It hurts, but here's where depth counts... also they get Kevin Smith and Tim Hightower for 2 weeks, until they face Turner/Norwood.Appeals aside.
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You can plan for this and think you have depth...but they have no depth to replace those 2.Those two are a huge reason for the success of that defense.
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:goodposting: As a Vikings homer that usually watches every second of every game those guys make it near impossble for most teams to run, there are no replacements for the top run stop DT duo in the league. On top of that their pass rush is going to be severly hurt, now you can easily double team Jared Allen since Kevin Williams is gone won't be in there. I would not be shocked in the least to see the entire Detroit offense have a good game (as far as the Lions go).
 
hellz_fireflies said:
Doctor DR said:
The first time these 2 met it was 10-12 in favor of MIN...

MIN could be missing their two DTs as well...

What do you all think? As bad as DET is, and as much as I'd love to see them go 0-16, I'm tempted to pick them to win this week!
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Detroit Kittens will go 0-16..but do indeed pick them..matches you perfect!
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Wow after all the crap you took for making the same joke 3 times in 2 seperate threads you try and come in here and make the same joke again? Wow... :goodposting:

Personally I think everyone WANTS them to go 0-16, which is why there is a lot of "no"s in this thread. Also there are a lot of Vikings homers refusing to take off the homer goggles and take an objective view at the game.

I think it's very possible. It would be great since the Packers could use a break, but I think it's very very possible. People don't give the big uglies their due credit: "oh they can be replaced by the next guy". Wrong. There's a reason MIN went out and traded a ton for Allen, the big guys are important and they are hard to find. You can't just put anyone in there and have a good DL.

DRDR

 
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Doctor DR said:
Gopher State said:
As a Viking homer this is a typical trap game for usWe coming off a big win against the BearsWere in first placeWe have issues this week with the William boys in the press/suspended?I can see the Vikes getting upset in this one, CJ may kill the Vikes pass defense with plays
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Agree 100% i thin kthey look past them
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Really? Even though Detroit gave them a scare last time? I don't think they'll look past them at all. Maybe if they blew them out last time around, but not on Sunday.
 
southeastjerome said:
Doctor DR said:
Gopher State said:
As a Viking homer this is a typical trap game for usWe coming off a big win against the BearsWere in first placeWe have issues this week with the William boys in the press/suspended?I can see the Vikes getting upset in this one, CJ may kill the Vikes pass defense with plays
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Agree 100% i thin kthey look past them
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Really? Even though Detroit gave them a scare last time? I don't think they'll look past them at all. Maybe if they blew them out last time around, but not on Sunday.
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You can IMAGINE they are looking past them, but if you watched the Bears/Vikings game on Sunday night you might have heard a quote from Jared Allen talking about preparing for next week and he acknowledged how tough they played in the last game. There is no way the Vikings are going to just assume they have the win here with the way they've played all year. Please though, call Vegas and place your bets for those of you who are so certain that the Vikings are gonna gift the Lions with their first win this year.
 
hellz_fireflies said:
Doctor DR said:
The first time these 2 met it was 10-12 in favor of MIN...

MIN could be missing their two DTs as well...

What do you all think? As bad as DET is, and as much as I'd love to see them go 0-16, I'm tempted to pick them to win this week!
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Detroit Kittens will go 0-16..but do indeed pick them..matches you perfect!
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I can tell you're not from around here. The Tigers are the Motor City Kitties. The Lions are... well another word would be #####cat, since the players are all p-ussies.
 
I certainly hope they score a bunch of points as I'm facing Minnesota defense. Just saying since you all care about my team.

 
"Wow after all the crap you took for making the same joke 3 times in 2 seperate threads you try and come in here and make the same joke again?"

You see that wasn't a joke in that topic when I called them Detroit Kittens..thats what they are so thats what I will call them! And if anyone doesn't like it...TO DAMM BAD!

And since your not a Detroit fan as you keep on saying...why are you always in Detroit threads and PM'ing people like you did to me about Detroit and complaining what their post was? For someone not a Detroit Fan you sure do go overboard. You even made this topic..unreal.

By any chance you related to Doctor Detroit ..all FBG members have more then one screen name all know that.

 
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