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Dez Bryant BROKEN FOOT (1 Viewer)

Think the Dallas press just being optimistic. I would put it as very unlikely he is back before the bye, they'll give him that extra week or two to make sure it doesn't re-break - I'd imagine the earliest we might see him is, oddly enough, week 7 at the Giants again. Week 8/9 - they have Seahawks/Eagles - I think if there's even a chance they can play him for those games they will, they could easily be crucial for NFC positioning.

 
shadyridr said:
rickyg said:
I broke my 5th metatarsal THREE times as a kid. The first time in 7th grade the dr recommended me stay off the foot on crutches. Took a month in a cast. After the cast came off he said it was healed.

Then a few weeks later in playing basketball in gym class, BOOM. re broke it.

Different dr. No cast. Walking boot and he encouraged me to put weight on it.

Healed pretty quickly that way.

Then blew it out again at high school graduation prom party! Lol

Different dr, same diagnosis. No cast. Walking boot. Encounter me to put weight on it. Healed in 3 weeks. Running again in 6 weeks.

And dez is in better shape than I ever was. I wonder why they put the pin in. It's not always necessary for that injury. Maybe it helps speed healing time.

But that break isn't so bad. Just takes the time to heal. The 4-6 week time frame is probably pretty fair.
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If only Kevin Durant had access to your doctor
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I don't get all the Kevin Durant direct comparisons. That's like saying Wes Welker, James Harrison and Jahvid Best all had concussions and then trying to lump them together.

 
Week 8 the 'more likely' return date for Dez?

ESPN Dallas considers November 1 against Seattle to be Dez Bryant's "more likely" return date.

That would be Week 8. It's based on the timeline being given by the Cowboys with regard to Bryant's fractured fifth metatarsal. Terrance Williams is expected to man Bryant's usual X receiver position, with Devin Street handling more snaps at Z and Cole Beasley staying in the slot. The Cowboys are also very likely to use more two-tight end sets, increasing Gavin Escobar's usage.

Source: ESPN Dallas Sep 14 - 4:16 PM

 
I own him and I am preparing as if he won't be back all season. Week 8, by most accounts, is the best case scenario and even then we don't know if that will happen, or how effective he will be. I am going to throw him in the IR slot, work the waiver wire and hope I can put something together. Truly sucks as I expected him to be a cornerstone of my team, but sucks more for him and Cowboy fans.

 
Dez had surgery today per Chris Mortensen:

Dez Bryant's foot surgery was actually today to insert screw. No other update but as Jason Garrett said, recovery is fluid. 4, 6, 8 weeks?

6:13pm - 14 Sep 15

 
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Wouldn't make sense to push him back for week 5 when they have a bye coming up and you can give him 6 weeks to recover.

 
If you put a screw in, you HAVE to wait until the bone is 100% healed. Sort of like a collarbone (remember all the funny optimistic Rodgers fans thinking he would be back in 3-4 weeks??)

6-8 weeks min.

 
Just reported 8-12 week timeline.

"@AdamSchefter: ESPN's Dr. Mark Adickes said 4-6 weeks was an aggressive timeframe, and a more likely timeframe for Dez Bryant's recovery is 8-12 weeks."

 
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ponchsox said:
If he's 8-10 weeks, he could be droppable in 10 team leagues with shallow benches. It's almost a season ender.
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Depends on the case not automatic. I played this game with Josh Gordon last year. I won a few weeks with a guy on a bye in ,my starting lineup cause I had better match ups. Obviously if you can remain in in the top half of the standings while doing it you can afford to gamble and drop a game. So for me its not automatic drop.. I will hold him (I have him in on league) and if I cant take that risk no more I will drop him then.

 
Sir Psycho said:
Just got an offer: Jeffery for my Dez and Edelman (Non PPR)
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Not sure why everyone is so high on Jeffery this year. There is no Marshall. White is done for the year. An the guy throwing the ball is Cutler.

I dunno maybe its just me but there are a handful of other guys I would rather have.

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
zeeshan2 said:
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On , Jerry Jones says Dez Bryant's surgery went well. Takes 6 full weeks for bone to fully heal.
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A bone that is notorious for poor/slow healing due to lack of blood supply. Hence why they repair with hardware. Also why they break again sometimes.
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That's all well and good but if you have a playoff capable team without him, even just nabbing the final playoff spot...you'd be crazy to give up on him now assuming you can spare the bench spot. Obviously it depends greatly on your league situation but the guy hasn't been put on IR. He's coming back before the FF playoffs and you want him on your team instead of your rivals.

 
we have short benches (3 players only) and ESPN won't let me drop Dez, so I'm looking to trade him knowing that he's going to eat up valuable bench space during the byes...ugh...looking to get a Sammy Watkins type....

 
red said:
we have short benches (3 players only) and ESPN won't let me drop Dez, so I'm looking to trade him knowing that he's going to eat up valuable bench space during the byes...ugh...looking to get a Sammy Watkins type....
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even with 3 on the bench i'd roll with him if you can. Dropping dez would be nuts. And trading Edelman and him for Alshon is even crazier.

 
ESPN had an orthopedist on this morning. His take was that in very rare circumstances it could take only 4 weeks if everything went unbelievably well with no setbacks and the bone healed and had stability. He also said that he's seen cases that it took 18 weeks to heal. Come back too soon and the bone will rebreak and the process starts all over. Every case is different, but he felt 12 weeks was the average recovery time and 8-12 weeks would be the best range to give at this point (but he still said closer to 12 than 8).

 
Anarchy99 said:
ESPN had an orthopedist on this morning. His take was that in very rare circumstances it could take only 4 weeks if everything went unbelievably well with no setbacks and the bone healed and had stability. He also said that he's seen cases that it took 18 weeks to heal. Come back too soon and the bone will rebreak and the process starts all over. Every case is different, but he felt 12 weeks was the average recovery time and 8-12 weeks would be the best range to give at this point (but he still said closer to 12 than 8).
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4-18 weeks? Thanks there buddy, appreesh.

This is why you don't listen to speculation from anyone but his own docs.

Only they know the details needed to make these calls.

 
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matuski said:
Anarchy99 said:
ESPN had an orthopedist on this morning. His take was that in very rare circumstances it could take only 4 weeks if everything went unbelievably well with no setbacks and the bone healed and had stability. He also said that he's seen cases that it took 18 weeks to heal. Come back too soon and the bone will rebreak and the process starts all over. Every case is different, but he felt 12 weeks was the average recovery time and 8-12 weeks would be the best range to give at this point (but he still said closer to 12 than 8).
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4-18 weeks? Thanks there buddy, appreesh.

This is why you don't listen to speculation from anyone but his own docs.

Only they know the details needed to make these calls.
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Actually, no one knows the details needed to make these calls. Dez's doctors will have no idea if his foot will heal quickly and properly and what will happens then he goes at full speed when they try to push it. That's what the guy I saw pointed out. That's why there is such a high rate of reinjury/rebreaking. Every case will be different, but 4 weeks was seen as highly unlikely and 12 weeks much more typical.

 
Anarchy99 said:
matuski said:
Anarchy99 said:
ESPN had an orthopedist on this morning. His take was that in very rare circumstances it could take only 4 weeks if everything went unbelievably well with no setbacks and the bone healed and had stability. He also said that he's seen cases that it took 18 weeks to heal. Come back too soon and the bone will rebreak and the process starts all over. Every case is different, but he felt 12 weeks was the average recovery time and 8-12 weeks would be the best range to give at this point (but he still said closer to 12 than 8).
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4-18 weeks? Thanks there buddy, appreesh.

This is why you don't listen to speculation from anyone but his own docs.

Only they know the details needed to make these calls.
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Actually, no one knows the details needed to make these calls. Dez's doctors will have no idea if his foot will heal quickly and properly and what will happens then he goes at full speed when they try to push it. That's what the guy I saw pointed out. That's why there is such a high rate of reinjury/rebreaking. Every case will be different, but 4 weeks was seen as highly unlikely and 12 weeks much more typical.
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"Healing quickly".

Here we go again... assuming Dez is human, he "heals" at the same rate you and I do.

His docs will be able to make a call. They should be fairly accurate assuming Dez cooperates and follows directions.

 
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matuski said:
Anarchy99 said:
matuski said:
Anarchy99 said:
ESPN had an orthopedist on this morning. His take was that in very rare circumstances it could take only 4 weeks if everything went unbelievably well with no setbacks and the bone healed and had stability. He also said that he's seen cases that it took 18 weeks to heal. Come back too soon and the bone will rebreak and the process starts all over. Every case is different, but he felt 12 weeks was the average recovery time and 8-12 weeks would be the best range to give at this point (but he still said closer to 12 than 8).
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4-18 weeks? Thanks there buddy, appreesh.

This is why you don't listen to speculation from anyone but his own docs.

Only they know the details needed to make these calls.
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Actually, no one knows the details needed to make these calls. Dez's doctors will have no idea if his foot will heal quickly and properly and what will happens then he goes at full speed when they try to push it. That's what the guy I saw pointed out. That's why there is such a high rate of reinjury/rebreaking. Every case will be different, but 4 weeks was seen as highly unlikely and 12 weeks much more typical.
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"Healing quickly".

Here we go again... assuming Dez is human, he "heals" at the same rate you and I do.

His docs will be able to make a call. They should be fairly accurate assuming Dez cooperates and follows directions.
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No one at this point has any idea how Dez will respond to the repeated force and torque that his foot will have to endure. It's complete speculation for anyone right now, including his own doctors. I provided the opinion of a specialist that deals with these types of injuries and he gave his general opinion that it takes 12 weeks. You can choose to agree or disagree.

 
I'll check back in 6 weeks when they evaluate his foot. Lots of armchair doctors here who know as much as a dog would,

 
Everyone is throwing darts right now. Question is whether or not you can stand the risk, which is directly dependent on your league and roster situation. Equal odds he comes back after week 6 b

LawFitz said:
I keep dry heaving flashbacks of Josh Gordon on my roster last year.

And ARod the year before.

:cry:
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^^This. I had Gordon last year too and this feels eerily similar, except in this case he isn't on suspension or IR so as soon as he's healed he's ready to play. And way more proven commodity than Gordon by leaps and bounds.

It really comes down to your risk tolerance and personal roster situation. If you can afford the roster hit, definitely worth the wait IMO. Obviously if you're hurting badly in the meantime and it can't be fixed by waiver moves then it makes no sense to hold on if you're going to miss the playoffs anyway

 
ponchsox said:
I'll check back in 6 weeks when they evaluate his foot. Lots of armchair doctors here who know as much as a dog would,
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Don't need to be a doctor to know it takes 6 weeks for a bone to heal.

He could easily be out until the week 13 (Dec. 7) game against the Redskins (out 11 weeks).

 
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timbrah_ho said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
zeeshan2 said:
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On , Jerry Jones says Dez Bryant's surgery went well. Takes 6 full weeks for bone to fully heal.
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A bone that is notorious for poor/slow healing due to lack of blood supply. Hence why they repair with hardware. Also why they break again sometimes.
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That's all well and good but if you have a playoff capable team without him, even just nabbing the final playoff spot...you'd be crazy to give up on him now assuming you can spare the bench spot. Obviously it depends greatly on your league situation but the guy hasn't been put on IR. He's coming back before the FF playoffs and you want him on your team instead of your rivals.
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Completely agree. I just think Jerry's rosy timelines are a pipe dream at this point.

 
so, somewhere in this thread we have, I am sure, GUESSED the entire range of possible outcomes and that leaves us where?

This is like when we GUESSED Foster was out 8 weeks or it was all but a done deal that he would be on I.R. designated to return. We now know that did not happen at all as we thought it would, which brings up a question.

If so many people think (by the posts here) that he is going to be out 8-12 weeks, why has there been zero talk of placing him on the IR designated to return list? IS that spot being used already? If not, then I think that is a better indication that the Cowboys truly do see this as being a shorter-term injury than the full term injury range.

 
LIke most people I don't know anything so just throwing my two cents out. But one thing that worries me about his recovery was something they said about why Dallas held him out of all of pre-season, and that was that Dez only had one gear and it was full throttle so they sat him to protect him from himself.

So that concerns me about his rehab process, especially when we are looking at at least 6 full weeks before the bone can heal that he's going to overdo something in the meantime.

So again I don't know anything but if I had put money on it I'd say his chances of missing the season or reinjuring his foot are stronger than coming back in 6 weeks.

 
Shutout said:
If so many people think (by the posts here) that he is going to be out 8-12 weeks, why has there been zero talk of placing him on the IR designated to return list? IS that spot being used already? If not, then I think that is a better indication that the Cowboys truly do see this as being a shorter-term injury than the full term injury range.
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I may be wrong but I think the window for IR-DTR is before the season starts.

 
menobrown said:
LIke most people I don't know anything so just throwing my two cents out. But one thing that worries me about his recovery was something they said about why Dallas held him out of all of pre-season, and that was that Dez only had one gear and it was full throttle so they sat him to protect him from himself.

So that concerns me about his rehab process, especially when we are looking at at least 6 full weeks before the bone can heal that he's going to overdo something in the meantime.

So again I don't know anything but if I had put money on it I'd say his chances of missing the season or reinjuring his foot are stronger than coming back in 6 weeks.
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Foot injuries for WRs are always high risk. Julio, Demaryius, Crabtree, Parker. there are a lot of documented cases where they don't heal well initially or the athlete re-injures it. That's just how it is. Just a bad draw of the cards for the position the same way that a broken hand means little to a field goal kicker but means a lot more to a punter.

With that being said, this is the Star of the team with big bucks invested. If Jerry Jones was willing to buy Dez a baby sitter in the past, he probably has this base covered too. The rest is just luck and rehab.

 
menobrown said:
Shutout said:
If so many people think (by the posts here) that he is going to be out 8-12 weeks, why has there been zero talk of placing him on the IR designated to return list? IS that spot being used already? If not, then I think that is a better indication that the Cowboys truly do see this as being a shorter-term injury than the full term injury range.
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I may be wrong but I think the window for IR-DTR is before the season starts.
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I'm not certain either but it seems like someone used it on Beanie Wells early one year. I'll see what I can find.

From here : http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/09/nfl_short-term_injured_reserve_how_it_works_what_it_means_to_giants_ol_geoff_schwartz.html

it appears it is after final rosters are set and I guess that makes sense because if it were before final rosters, then that's the PUP list I guess.

Someone else may have better data. this link is from a few years ago.

Read a few more spots real quick and you may be right. I didn't see any examples of a guy in , say Week 3, being put on the list (which seems odd...I would think a team would like to IR Peyton Manning in Week 5 and designate him to return from a 6 week injury vs. lose him for the entire season).

Anyone know for sure on this?

 
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menobrown said:
Shutout said:
If so many people think (by the posts here) that he is going to be out 8-12 weeks, why has there been zero talk of placing him on the IR designated to return list? IS that spot being used already? If not, then I think that is a better indication that the Cowboys truly do see this as being a shorter-term injury than the full term injury range.
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I may be wrong but I think the window for IR-DTR is before the season starts.
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Didn't Randle Cobb get IR'd midseason when he broke his leg mid-game a couple years back? I remember trading him away and the person I traded him to put him on his FF IR, which requires that the player get IR'd in real life as well

 
timbrah_ho said:
menobrown said:
Shutout said:
If so many people think (by the posts here) that he is going to be out 8-12 weeks, why has there been zero talk of placing him on the IR designated to return list? IS that spot being used already? If not, then I think that is a better indication that the Cowboys truly do see this as being a shorter-term injury than the full term injury range.
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I may be wrong but I think the window for IR-DTR is before the season starts.
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Didn't Randle Cobb get IR'd midseason when he broke his leg mid-game a couple years back? I remember trading him away and the person I traded him to put him on his FF IR, which requires that the player get IR'd in real life as well
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I don't remember how Cobb was handled but for sure I now know I was wrong and you can put a player on IR-DTR after the season starts because the Texans just did it today for Ryan Griffin.

 
Yeah I'm about 90% sure Cobb got IR'd too...so I agree with the previous poster that the fact they haven't gone that route with Dez suggests that they feel this is going to be a quicker recovery than the talking heads are suggesting.

 
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