**NFL Saturday Doubleheader - Steelers 10-4 at Ravens 9-5**(-6.5, 44.5) 4:30 (1 Viewer)

[travdogg]

And the division goes to the Ravens. Steelers will be one & done in playoffs again.

They can absolutely beat Houston if they draw them. No way Texans can block Steelers front, and they are (unfortunately) down to only 1 real pass catcher now.

 

[Dez]

Just a shame I made so many mistakes last week with my 1 cutline team I scored a 204 and got cut sitting Aubrey, DeVonta and Higgins for Kupp, Jennings and Bates. If I played any of the 3 I sat I move on and Lamar and Balt DEF are blowing up for me. Now all I need to do is finish 1st out of 97 to advance. I mean I did it last year 1st out of 110 but lightning doesn't strike twice.

Lamar, Gibbs, Chase Brown, Conner, St Brown, Higgins, DeVonta, Kupp, Jennings, Kittle, Aubrey, Balt D..........still have to sit 2 of Conner, DeVonta, Kupp, Jennings.

 

[Dez]

I wish that was Hamilton

 

[billmatic]

Why is Justin Jefferson in his uniform on the couch in his own home?

I don't know, but the way he delivers the line "how did you guys even get in here" is Academy Award worthy

 

[Dez]

Too bad Warren couldn't get me 6 pts last week I got cut because he got me 2 needed 6 this week he is doing me well but damn dude last week needed just 6

 

[Donnybrook]

Did I hear that right? Andrews is the Raven Franchise TD leader? i would have thought it would have been Todd heap or Jamal Lewis.

Trivia Question: name the only 2 teams whose alltime TD reception leaders are Tight Ends

Hint: they both played today

Tony G

That was just off the top of my head. Actually Kelce and Tony G are currently tied at 76.

 

[irish eyes]

Broderick Jones the clueless wonder. What a bust.

 

[The_Man]

Marlo with his INT vs Cincy, his forced fumble in the 2nd Cincy game and now tonight has by far the biggest defensive plays of the year for Baltimore

 

[irish eyes]

Gotta love the 3rd and 11 bubble screen.

 

[Donnybrook]

I don't know about punting here. Steelers really need a stop.

 

[Cobbler1]

Marlo with his INT vs Cincy, his forced fumble in the 2nd Cincy game and now tonight has by far the biggest defensive plays of the year for Baltimore

Stephens was in the slot last series. Hope Marlon is ok

 

[irish eyes]

I am shocked Steelers didn't get off the field on 3rd down, shocked.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

wow

 

[GoBirds]

Steelers owning Lamar narrative is fading.

 

[irish eyes]

Christmas day will be beat down #3 in a row. What an embarrassment.

 

[travdogg]

What ever happened with Keaton Mitchell? Not the same after the knee injury? Did he get hurt again?

ETA: Kinda thought his speed would be a scary clock running out compliment to Henry

 

[The_Man]

Lamar making perfect third down long throws, pulling guys offside with his cadence, pretty quarterbacky

 

[The_Man]

Have to kick here. Makes it impossible to lose

 

[Dez]

Tucker hits 10 pts for the first time in forever played him every week until today

 

[Cobbler1]

What ever happened with Keaton Mitchell? Not the same after the knee injury? Did he get hurt again?

ETA: Kinda thought his speed would be a scary clock running out compliment to Henry

Not hurt again. Justice just been balling and I guess Ali brings something on special teams. He’ll be active and I assume in the Hill role Wednesday.

 

[travdogg]

Slightly hot take: I think Henry has been as good or better than Barkley this year. Pretty much the same efficiency, Barkley just has more carries, and Barkley has a WAY better OL.

 

[Cobbler1]

Slightly hot take: I think Henry has been as good or better than Barkley this year. Pretty much the same efficiency, Barkley just has more carries, and Barkley has a WAY better OL.

I feel like he’s been a little off as far as seeing holes and running through tackles the past handful of games. Off from the extremely high bar he set earlier in the season. Hopefully get through the Christmas game and get him a little fresher with the long layoff before week 18.

 

[The_Man]

Ojabo sighting!

 

[Cobbler1]

Also maybe Watt is a bit banged up but Rosengarten was fantastic against him today

 

[rockaction]

Christmas Day football is ridiculous. Let the NBA have it. They need it. Nobody watches the NBA anymore, at least comparatively.

 

[travdogg]

Christmas Day football is ridiculous. Let the NBA have it. They need it. Nobody watches the NBA anymore, at least comparatively.

It'd be one thing if it fell on a normal day like Sunday/Monday. But on Wednesday, its stupid. Doubt I'll see a minute of Pit/KC, and likely probably only the tail end of Bal/Hou

 

[The_Man]

Lamar needs to not put so much pressure on himself that he stops playing his normal game, plays tight and makes uncustomary mistakes (i.e., choking, but we don’t dare say that word in Baltimore)

This has been a Top 4 defense since Week 11, they are super fresh after their bye whereas the Steelers are tired and beat up. I’m a believer in this team, D just needs to start forcing some turnovers.

I say Lamar gets back in the MVP Race with 30-16 win

But we’ll know early whether he’s usual Lamar, or super-frenetic bad decision turnover Lamar

Good call by me! This team is something different since its Bye

 

[rockaction]

Christmas Day football is ridiculous. Let the NBA have it. They need it. Nobody watches the NBA anymore, at least comparatively.

It'd be one thing if it fell on a normal day like Sunday/Monday. But on Wednesday, its stupid. Doubt I'll see a minute of Pit/KC, and likely probably only the tail end of Bal/Hou

Even worse, as a fan, you try all year to make the finals of a fantasy football league, and if you make it then it’s hanging over your head all Christmas. Well, I mean for some it won’t, but it would for me.

Plus the Wednesday part is just stupid. That’s really tinkering with the schedule and putting the players’ bodies at risk. I can see Thursday like 2025 or a Monday spectacular, but Wednesday? Tuesday?

 

[irish eyes]

Christmas Day football is ridiculous. Let the NBA have it. They need it. Nobody watches the NBA anymore, at least comparatively.

Agree, let the awful NBA have it. I'm amazed anyone watches that garbage.

 

[Cobbler1]

Since Week 3, Lamar has a 128.5 passer rating, only QB in NFL history ever to have a higher passer rating over any 12-game span is Peyton Manning’s 128.7 in 2004

In my eyes, its never been a real debate for MVP. Its been Lamar all year. His current passer rating is 4th highest in history, behind only 2011 Rodgers, 2020 Rodgers, and 2004 Manning, and none of those guys were adding another 800-1000 yards rushing.

Lamar is having a historically great season. Josh Allen is also great, but clearly not on the same level. Its kinda funny, I thought Allen was better than Lamar last year. and I think Lamar is better this year. Sometimes I think record plays WAY too big a role in voting. I mean, I get MVP not being on a team that was awful, but #1 seed vs #2 seed or #3 seed, should be no real difference when grading an individual player.

He’s going to finish with an insane statistical year. Something like 4300-4400 passing yards 41-42 tds to 4-5 picks. Prime Aaron Rodgers type numbers while also rushing for 800-900 yards and a handful of tds. Allen is by far the betting favorite though. Last year Allen had the major wart of 18 picks. Lamar has no such blemish.

 

[Rubi]

I think The Ravens come into this one in a better place
But Tomlin has prepped well for LaMar in the past
Just think The Ravens are winning today
So...

Baltimore- 27
Pittsburgh- 16

Still a cover

 

[travdogg]

Since Week 3, Lamar has a 128.5 passer rating, only QB in NFL history ever to have a higher passer rating over any 12-game span is Peyton Manning’s 128.7 in 2004

In my eyes, its never been a real debate for MVP. Its been Lamar all year. His current passer rating is 4th highest in history, behind only 2011 Rodgers, 2020 Rodgers, and 2004 Manning, and none of those guys were adding another 800-1000 yards rushing.

Lamar is having a historically great season. Josh Allen is also great, but clearly not on the same level. Its kinda funny, I thought Allen was better than Lamar last year. and I think Lamar is better this year. Sometimes I think record plays WAY too big a role in voting. I mean, I get MVP not being on a team that was awful, but #1 seed vs #2 seed or #3 seed, should be no real difference when grading an individual player.

He’s going to finish with an insane statistical year. Something like 4300-4400 passing yards 41-42 tds to 4-5 picks. Prime Aaron Rodgers type numbers while also rushing for 800-900 yards and a handful of tds. Allen is by far the betting favorite though. Last year Allen had the major wart of 18 picks. Lamar has no such blemish.

I honestly don't think Allen is doing a single thing better than Lamar this season (I do think he's the best overall player, just not this season) its just wild to me.

 

[rockaction]

Agree, let the awful NBA have it. I'm amazed anyone watches that garbage.

So am I. My favorite sighting of the day? The UConn women’s basketball team wearing shirts that said “Everyone watches women’s sports.”



Yeah, sure. I started watching because it was on the FOX channel the football game was on and as they started playing I scrambled to click on the remote.

 

[Cobbler1]

Since Week 3, Lamar has a 128.5 passer rating, only QB in NFL history ever to have a higher passer rating over any 12-game span is Peyton Manning’s 128.7 in 2004

In my eyes, its never been a real debate for MVP. Its been Lamar all year. His current passer rating is 4th highest in history, behind only 2011 Rodgers, 2020 Rodgers, and 2004 Manning, and none of those guys were adding another 800-1000 yards rushing.

Lamar is having a historically great season. Josh Allen is also great, but clearly not on the same level. Its kinda funny, I thought Allen was better than Lamar last year. and I think Lamar is better this year. Sometimes I think record plays WAY too big a role in voting. I mean, I get MVP not being on a team that was awful, but #1 seed vs #2 seed or #3 seed, should be no real difference when grading an individual player.

He’s going to finish with an insane statistical year. Something like 4300-4400 passing yards 41-42 tds to 4-5 picks. Prime Aaron Rodgers type numbers while also rushing for 800-900 yards and a handful of tds. Allen is by far the betting favorite though. Last year Allen had the major wart of 18 picks. Lamar has no such blemish.

I honestly don't think Allen is doing a single thing better than Lamar this season (I do think he's the best overall player, just not this season) it’s just wild to me.

If you compare their passing stats Lamar crushes almost every category. And the rushing stats other than TDs. QBR gives a massive edge to Allen in rushing value and also finds guys like Kyler Murray and Drake Maye in like 8 starts more valuable on the ground than Lamar which is borderline insane and should make anyone squint at that measure. And just like last year with Lamar the Bills overall record and perceived momentum is majorly helping Allen right now.

 

[jabarony]

Agree, let the awful NBA have it. I'm amazed anyone watches that garbage.

So am I. My favorite sighting of the day? The UConn women’s basketball team wearing shirts that said “Everyone watches women’s sports.”



Yeah, sure. I started watching because it was on the FOX channel the football game was on and as they started playing I scrambled to click on the remote.

Well technically, you did watch! Even if it was a ridiculous shirt.

And my daughter and I caught the end of that game. It was better than the NBA.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Since Week 3, Lamar has a 128.5 passer rating, only QB in NFL history ever to have a higher passer rating over any 12-game span is Peyton Manning’s 128.7 in 2004

In my eyes, its never been a real debate for MVP. Its been Lamar all year. His current passer rating is 4th highest in history, behind only 2011 Rodgers, 2020 Rodgers, and 2004 Manning, and none of those guys were adding another 800-1000 yards rushing.

Lamar is having a historically great season. Josh Allen is also great, but clearly not on the same level. Its kinda funny, I thought Allen was better than Lamar last year. and I think Lamar is better this year. Sometimes I think record plays WAY too big a role in voting. I mean, I get MVP not being on a team that was awful, but #1 seed vs #2 seed or #3 seed, should be no real difference when grading an individual player.

He’s going to finish with an insane statistical year. Something like 4300-4400 passing yards 41-42 tds to 4-5 picks. Prime Aaron Rodgers type numbers while also rushing for 800-900 yards and a handful of tds. Allen is by far the betting favorite though. Last year Allen had the major wart of 18 picks. Lamar has no such blemish.

I honestly don't think Allen is doing a single thing better than Lamar this season (I do think he's the best overall player, just not this season) it’s just wild to me.

If you compare their passing stats Lamar crushes almost every category. And the rushing stats other than TDs. QBR gives a massive edge to Allen in rushing value and also finds guys like Kyler Murray and Drake Maye in like 8 starts more valuable on the ground than Lamar which is borderline insane and should make anyone squint at that measure. And just like last year with Lamar the Bills overall record and perceived momentum is majorly helping Allen right now.

QBR was invented because it made Tebow look better than regular QB rating did.