Do you want see Reggie Bush fail? (1 Viewer)

[H.K.]

Since college ended, Bush has had the house fiasco, was not chosen first overall by Houston because some felt he made unreasonable financial demands, and now the jersey number change request from the NFL.

I don't care either way, arguments can be made for and against him in each instance, but I am trying to see what people think of him now.

Do recent events make you dislike him enough to want to see him become a bust in the NFL?

 

[Kleck]

Fixed your poll mistake. Should be okay now.

 

[noneother]

No I want him to be the best ever... at the same time, to do that he needs to be the best PERSON... Moss and Owens, not that reggie is that bad.. Imagine what they could do with the right image and public behavior...

it's a lot to ask for.... but his PR and agent team need to step up and protect him ASAP.. take the 32... or 23...

 

[Nemesis Enforcer]

The only time I'd like to see him fail is when the Saints play the Giants. Other than that I don't care.

 

[Baracuda]

What the heck? Who voted "yes"???

 

[H.K.]

Fixed your poll mistake. Should be okay now.

Thanks

 

[FTRWRTR]

IMO Bush hasn't done anything wrong that would make me want to see him fail. I don't think he'll be the fantasy god that some ppl think he will be but rather a rb version of michael vick which means he'll be exciting to watch and help his team win games but will have more NFL value than ff value. For that reason some ppl will see him as a failure or a bust but I won't be one of them.

 

[The Duff Man]

Yes because I am a bitter..bitter person.

 

[Sinrman]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years. The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly. But the jersey thing? Making unreasonable contract demands? Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

 

[FTRWRTR]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years. The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly. But the jersey thing? Making unreasonable contract demands? Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

 

[thayman]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years.  The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly.  But the jersey thing?  Making unreasonable contract demands?  Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

The house thing does seem shady, but who cares, it's something that will be forgotten in a few months anyway. Jersey thing, the guy is willing to give 25% of all jersey proceeds to Katrina relief, so that is pretty cool.

 

[Boston]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years.  The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly.  But the jersey thing?  Making unreasonable contract demands?  Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

The fact that his teammates maybe put on probation (i.e. pay for his mistakes) for his misdeeds isn't something that impresses me.

 

[H.K.]

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

Whether or not college athletes should be compensated is a seperate debate. Most of the players drafted helped make their respective schools tons of cash, some more so than others, but they were not been involved in in something of this magnitude. At worst, the house debacle was a political nightmare for Bush. In keeping with the theme of the post, I was trying to ascertain if his recent actions have caused people to pull against him. Right now it looks like it hasn't had much of an impact based on the results of the poll.

 

[FTRWRTR]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years.  The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly.  But the jersey thing?  Making unreasonable contract demands?  Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

The fact that his teammates maybe put on probation (i.e. pay for his mistakes) for his misdeeds isn't something that impresses me.

But was it his mistake? The last I heard some wannabe agent made a deal with reggie's parents and just assumed bush would sign with him. If that's the case the NCAA is just being it's usual hard-### self

 

[GregR_2]

I'm not rooting for him to fail. But as a Texans fan I won't mind if he doesn't break all RB records if only so I don't have to see the Texans listed on the Top 10 Draft Mistakes list for the rest of my life.

 

[lions327]

Those who passed on him in rookie drafts hope he fails

 

[cdwood]

I'm not hoping that Reggie Bush fails. I'm hoping that he does well and legitimizes all of the effort and resources that go into scouting and drafting of first round players. I'm sure we can all agree that there are some teams out there that need all the help they can get to make their teams better. Having rookie first round picks turn into busts does nothing for the NFL.

 

[Boston]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years.  The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly.  But the jersey thing?  Making unreasonable contract demands?  Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

The fact that his teammates maybe put on probation (i.e. pay for his mistakes) for his misdeeds isn't something that impresses me.

But was it his mistake? The last I heard some wannabe agent made a deal with reggie's parents and just assumed bush would sign with him. If that's the case the NCAA is just being it's usual hard-### self

If the Bush family is violating NCAA rules how is the NCAA being a hard ###? The kid still had eligibilty and if this story is true I don't think they were living in that house because Bush did well in his physics class. Hard to believe Reggie went to visit the rents and didn't realize something was up with the new digs.

 

[Chaos]

whomever voted yes, represents some of whats wrong with our society

 

[noneother]

watchin NFL network now, with Warrick Dunn being profiled... dude definetly has a heart... Bush should be watching this

 

[jurb26]

watchin NFL network now, with Warrick Dunn being profiled... dude definetly has a heart... Bush should be watching this

 

[Riffraff]

But was it his mistake? The last I heard some wannabe agent made a deal with reggie's parents and just assumed bush would sign with him. If that's the case the NCAA is just being it's usual hard-### self

Let's see: A kid in college that says he wants to (by turning pro) get a better place for his parents to live in... not to know where his parents are currently living for a year? Yeah, I'm sure he was still scouring the ghetto or suburbs looking for his lost family. I guess he was lucky the newspapers found them for him. Who'd a thunk it? They moved into a house way beyond their financial means.

It wouldn't be hard for an investigator to show that he made even 1 phone call to the "new" residence. That would verify that he "knew" about the situation.

Knowing about the situation and still playing in games = violation.

He left his former teammates, coaches, and school alumni holding the bag for years to come when the NCAA committee hands out the collateral damage.

That being said, I don't think anyone should want him to fail outright. But I could see where they'd like to see him experience some roadblocks in order to see what kind of character he really has underneath the spoiled child exterior.

 

[-OZ-]

I don't want to see anyone fail, unless they've committed some heinous crime or are otherwise a terrible person.

But, I don't care if he succeeds either.

 

[Boston]

I don't want to see anyone fail, unless they've committed some heinous crime or are otherwise a terrible person.

But, I don't care if he succeeds either.

Agreed on this...unless he's wearing a Pats uniform (or a legit good guy like Warrick Dunn) I really don't care how he does.

 

[Jous]

The NFL needs another all-time great, revolutionary RB....so I hope Bush succeeds. There's a lot of great RB's out there but none of them are IMO on the level of Payton, Sanders, Gale Sayers etc IMO.

 

[John 14:6]

The only time I'd like to see him fail is when the Saints play the Giants. Other than that I don't care.

Nice user name and avatar

 

[sacked4loss]

i hope he breaks every record in the books . the only ones that want him to fail is the cry babys that wished thier team could have gotten him. sorry but he is asaint so quit whinning.

 

[Perfect Tommy]

whomever voted yes, represents some of whats wrong with our society

Curiously, it is your type of response that is what is wrong with society. Some players will succeed and some will fail. He is displaying terrible character. I don't think it is a good thing when a bad person achieves fame and fortune. And why would you be so judgemental about anybody that doesn't agree with your opinion that they are what is wrong with society? It is that condemnation of those with dissenting opinions that is the problem, dude.

 

[NoFBinLA]

whomever voted yes, represents some of whats wrong with our society

Curiously, it is your type of response that is what is wrong with society. Some players will succeed and some will fail. He is displaying terrible character. I don't think it is a good thing when a bad person achieves fame and fortune. And why would you be so judgemental about anybody that doesn't agree with your opinion that they are what is wrong with society? It is that condemnation of those with dissenting opinions that is the problem, dude.

I may not want him to fail - and might think SOME of those who do have silly reasons - but it's a long stretch to equate dissent on THIS topic with 'what's wrong with America'.

I mean, there could be alot of reasons other than what is going on in some threads here.

I'm curious though, to know for those who want him to fail, why that is. I can't imagine ever disliking someone whom I haven't met to the degree I hope they fail at what they are trying to accomplish.

 

[trader jake]

how many times are members of the texans front office allowed to vote in this poll?

 

[FTRWRTR]

The stuff he's done have been VERY minor, compared to many top picks over the years.  The house thing, if found guilty of it, yeah, that's bad, and should be dealt with accordingly.  But the jersey thing?  Making unreasonable contract demands?  Players do that all the time, I do see why people would single him out...

I would argue that the house "scandal" isn't that bad considering the millions of dollars that he made for USC, also he never signed a contract with that agent

The fact that his teammates maybe put on probation (i.e. pay for his mistakes) for his misdeeds isn't something that impresses me.

But was it his mistake? The last I heard some wannabe agent made a deal with reggie's parents and just assumed bush would sign with him. If that's the case the NCAA is just being it's usual hard-### self

If the Bush family is violating NCAA rules how is the NCAA being a hard ###? The kid still had eligibilty and if this story is true I don't think they were living in that house because Bush did well in his physics class. Hard to believe Reggie went to visit the rents and didn't realize something was up with the new digs.

How is the NCAA right in punishing USC for something the parents of one of their players does? How far does it go? Is a player responsible for his second cousins? his roomate's girlfriend's step-brother?riffraff = I suppose you've never heard of lying. How are we to know what bush's parents told him where the money for the house came from? Maybe they said they won the lottery, maybe they said the got the money from a lawsuit. Whatever thei'r excuse was do you seriously expect bush or any player in this country to force his family to live in a bad neighborhood because he suspects the nice house they got might've come from an agent?

 

[Riffraff]

riffraff = Whatever thei'r excuse was do you seriously expect bush or any player in this country to force his family to live in a bad neighborhood because he suspects the nice house they got might've come from an agent?

Since you asked.../rant onHe didn't force them to do so since he didn't have a job yet. Had he gotten seriously hurt during that year, his family wouldn't have been any better off. Luckily he didn't though.Expect them to live the way they were used to for one more year (9-10 months)? Heck ya.The scandal cost him $$$, tarnished his reputation, and will most likely get an asterisk posted in the record books for the USC Trojans football program.He will live in college football infamy (not the good type of famous) if the school gets sanctions. Remember, all his Saint teammates and NFL opponents went to college as well. They'll feel something about the betrayal to his school/teammates; it probably won't have a bunch of high fives involved.Had he suspected that his family lied to him (as you surmise)...He could have just asked one question: "Hey coach, do you think that my family living in a $750,000 house, free of rent, has anything to do with my football abilities?""Yeah coach, I talked to a guy about representation, but I never signed a contract."He could have sat a few games while coach had the Trojan Journalism students do a quick research project. Or better yet, he could have asked the question in the summer when football wasn't being played but his family was already in the house. But he didn't. /rant off-------------------------Back to the usually scheduled topic... do we want to see him fail?No.

 

[Koya]

I was very pro Bush until the past few days. I can deal with being young and seeing some nice $$ and maybe not making the right decision.

To blackmail the league/public with Katrina aid when you play for a New Orleans team? Hate to say it, but as of right now, if an MCL takes him out game one, I won't shed a tear.

Really a shame considering how excited I was to see this kid succeed just a few days ago.

 

[Big Score]

...After visiting New Orleans, Bush made it clear that any organization that he works with will have to do something to rebuild the city.

He hasn't yet played a single down, but here's what he's brought to New Orleans:

> The New Orleans Police Department is receiving 12 Hummers to replace vehicles lost last August.

> On Monday, Bush will give $100,000 to the Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans for Holy Trinity Church, which has 267 autistic and handicapped children. "There is no school that can handle them except Holy Trinity, but they were going to be closed," Ornstein said.

The Saints called Bush and asked him if he was interested in helping, so he got Adidas to donate $50,000. The NFL has a matching fund for any Saints players donating to the rebuilding of New Orleans.

> On Wednesday, Bush will pledge another $100,000 to re-sod Tad Gormley Stadium, a football and track facility that was flooded.

"They are going to call it the Reggie Bush Field at Tad (Gormley) Stadium," Ornstein said.

On his trip to New Orleans, Bush visited the Ninth Ward, one of the hardest-hit parts of the city.

"You can't imagine the devastation," he said. "It shows me we are playing more than football. We are going to do our part in rebuilding a great city."

When Tim Aldrich, manager of the Weseloh Hummer facility, heard that Bush would receive these Hummers, he quickly went to work to make sure that Bush would pick up the vehicles in Carlsbad....

www.nctimes.comI don't want to see him fail.

 

[Koya]

...After visiting New Orleans, Bush made it clear that any organization that he works with will have to do something to rebuild the city.

He hasn't yet played a single down, but here's what he's brought to New Orleans:

> The New Orleans Police Department is receiving 12 Hummers to replace vehicles lost last August.

> On Monday, Bush will give $100,000 to the Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans for Holy Trinity Church, which has 267 autistic and handicapped children. "There is no school that can handle them except Holy Trinity, but they were going to be closed," Ornstein said.

The Saints called Bush and asked him if he was interested in helping, so he got Adidas to donate $50,000. The NFL has a matching fund for any Saints players donating to the rebuilding of New Orleans.

> On Wednesday, Bush will pledge another $100,000 to re-sod Tad Gormley Stadium, a football and track facility that was flooded.

"They are going to call it the Reggie Bush Field at Tad (Gormley) Stadium," Ornstein said.

On his trip to New Orleans, Bush visited the Ninth Ward, one of the hardest-hit parts of the city.

"You can't imagine the devastation," he said. "It shows me we are playing more than football. We are going to do our part in rebuilding a great city."

When Tim Aldrich, manager of the Weseloh Hummer facility, heard that Bush would receive these Hummers, he quickly went to work to make sure that Bush would pick up the vehicles in Carlsbad....

www.nctimes.comI don't want to see him fail.

Thanks for the info. I have heard and speak and that is part of the reason I had been a supporter. If the article is true, I am more than willing to get back in his corner... but what I know of the "give me #5 and I will give a ton of money to people that need it a lot more than I need a number" incident makes me sick.

 

[cstu]

...After visiting New Orleans, Bush made it clear that any organization that he works with will have to do something to rebuild the city.

He hasn't yet played a single down, but here's what he's brought to New Orleans:

> The New Orleans Police Department is receiving 12 Hummers to replace vehicles lost last August.

> On Monday, Bush will give $100,000 to the Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans for Holy Trinity Church, which has 267 autistic and handicapped children. "There is no school that can handle them except Holy Trinity, but they were going to be closed," Ornstein said.

The Saints called Bush and asked him if he was interested in helping, so he got Adidas to donate $50,000. The NFL has a matching fund for any Saints players donating to the rebuilding of New Orleans.

> On Wednesday, Bush will pledge another $100,000 to re-sod Tad Gormley Stadium, a football and track facility that was flooded.

"They are going to call it the Reggie Bush Field at Tad (Gormley) Stadium," Ornstein said.

On his trip to New Orleans, Bush visited the Ninth Ward, one of the hardest-hit parts of the city.

"You can't imagine the devastation," he said. "It shows me we are playing more than football. We are going to do our part in rebuilding a great city."

When Tim Aldrich, manager of the Weseloh Hummer facility, heard that Bush would receive these Hummers, he quickly went to work to make sure that Bush would pick up the vehicles in Carlsbad....

www.nctimes.comI don't want to see him fail.

Thanks for the info. I have heard and speak and that is part of the reason I had been a supporter. If the article is true, I am more than willing to get back in his corner... but what I know of the "give me #5 and I will give a ton of money to people that need it a lot more than I need a number" incident makes me sick.

I'm with you on the #5 thing, but I think he's young and getting a million things thrown at him and every little thing he does is going to get nitpicked by the media. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and hope he doesn't make me regret it like I do with TO.

 

[FTRWRTR]

...After visiting New Orleans, Bush made it clear that any organization that he works with will have to do something to rebuild the city.

He hasn't yet played a single down, but here's what he's brought to New Orleans:

> The New Orleans Police Department is receiving 12 Hummers to replace vehicles lost last August.

> On Monday, Bush will give $100,000 to the Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans for Holy Trinity Church, which has 267 autistic and handicapped children. "There is no school that can handle them except Holy Trinity, but they were going to be closed," Ornstein said.

The Saints called Bush and asked him if he was interested in helping, so he got Adidas to donate $50,000. The NFL has a matching fund for any Saints players donating to the rebuilding of New Orleans.

> On Wednesday, Bush will pledge another $100,000 to re-sod Tad Gormley Stadium, a football and track facility that was flooded.

"They are going to call it the Reggie Bush Field at Tad (Gormley) Stadium," Ornstein said.

On his trip to New Orleans, Bush visited the Ninth Ward, one of the hardest-hit parts of the city.

"You can't imagine the devastation," he said. "It shows me we are playing more than football. We are going to do our part in rebuilding a great city."

When Tim Aldrich, manager of the Weseloh Hummer facility, heard that Bush would receive these Hummers, he quickly went to work to make sure that Bush would pick up the vehicles in Carlsbad....

www.nctimes.comI don't want to see him fail.

What a jerk. He's definitely the kind of trash we should all root against riffraff - I don't know the financial situation of reggie's family but if they were struggling and living in a bad neighborhood continuing to stay in that situation for 9 - 10 more months when they had a way out would've been absurd. Considering that a significant number of football players came from the same circumstances I hardly think that they'll hold a grude against him

 

[roadkill1292]

Fantasy football needs more quality running backs and less rbbc.

Good players are more interesting to watch than mediocre players.

 

[Lauryn]

he seems to be saying/doing all the right things at the moment, and it would be nice to see his college dominance translate to the pros just for entertainment's sake, so no, i hope he doesn't fail.

leinart on the other hand, i'd like to see fail, simply cuz he seems like a real ######

 

[Nagle2998]

I picked yes since I own Duece in two of the 3 leagues Im in

 

[patrickmcgroin]

Only against Carolina.