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Does Vick put Kolb on the bench concussion or not? (1 Viewer)
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
Kolb will be given every opportunity to keep his job, as he is considered to be the Quarterback Of The Futureâ„¢.
However, he will not see the field again until the doctors clear him to play, and if Vick plays well in the next 1-2 games then don't be surprised if the team doctors don't clear Kolb until sometime after their BYE in Week 8.
However, he will not see the field again until the doctors clear him to play, and if Vick plays well in the next 1-2 games then don't be surprised if the team doctors don't clear Kolb until sometime after their BYE in Week 8.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
We must be watching different games. Vick looks awesome.
davidwb
Footballguy
a zebra might (since they have stripes), but a leopard can't.
LMF
Footballguy
Watching the game right now. He's making really good throws and he hes not making short ones either. His throws are 15+ yard throws and hes consistently spliting defenders with them. From what I can remember he has never thrown the ball like that even when he was with ATL. Hes scrambling when he needs to and staying in the pocket when he needs to. I do not own Vick in any leagues but that may change because he is looking legit.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Vick is having one of the best games of his career. 110.9 passer rating, no turnovers, 70+ yards rushing -- he's only done that twice in his entire career. And he's only played 2 quarters so far today.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Vick is looking good for now, but they didn't get rid of McNabb to give the starting job to Vick. Kolb will still be the QB when he gets back. Not that I have to worry, Vick cannot be rostered in my league..
switz
Footballguy
Vick wasn't always dink and dunk in ATL, he's always had a really strong arm. I do think he looks good, and if he brings PHI back for the win I don't see how he doesn't start next week at least. Kolb is an unproven QB yet, but he is the QB of the future. Unless Vick tears it up, kolb will at some point this year be the starter again.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
I've never really been sold on Kolb so I'm biased in that regard. But can someone tell me why Kolb would have so much security? The guy has had a handful of good games in his career, clearly not an established young star or anything. The amount of bad I saw from him today greatly outweighs any good I've seen from him, and Vick is picking GB apart right now.
Now, one game does not a season or career make (good or bad), but I just don't see why Vick wouldn't get a shot at the job if he clearly outplays Kolb -- which he has done today.
Now, one game does not a season or career make (good or bad), but I just don't see why Vick wouldn't get a shot at the job if he clearly outplays Kolb -- which he has done today.
LMF
Footballguy
Your right he wasnt but he's always had a heck of an arm, even back to is VA Tech days. But today he actually looks like a pocket passer, he never did that in ATL.
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Insoxicated
okay...
GoBirds
Footballguy
I agree, and Kolb having a "handful" of good games is a stretch since what all the hype comes from is 2 300 yard games, one against the Chefs.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Vick deserves the starting job after that performance.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
ditto
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Money. The fact that he has been given the mantle of the Eagles QB of the future.Michael Brown said:
None_More_Black
Footballguy
Have to start Vick at this point. Kolb in not on a long term deal, and there are people in the organization that like Vick better then Kolb.
Is it me or did it seem like andy reid set up mike vick to fail in this game? I think Reid did not want any part of a qb contreversy i mean c'mon why the hell would you waste all of your timeouts with 5 minutes still left in the game. Then there was that horrible 4th down call everyone knew what was coming! Maybe im seeing things but something doesnt seem right here
Gopher State
Footballguy
Reid will not allow two quarters to bench Kolb you can mark it down.
Kolb is the QB of the future, GB did not game plan for Vick, lets see what Vick can do when a team game plans and puts a end to his rushing with a personal spy
Kolb is the QB of the future, GB did not game plan for Vick, lets see what Vick can do when a team game plans and puts a end to his rushing with a personal spy
Chairshot
Footballguy
I very much dislike Mike Vick.
That said, I don't see how they can keep him from under center now. Kolb blew it and the injury means he won't have a chance to fix it.
My guess is Vick is the starter next game or two while Kolb recovers. If Vick keeps it up even half way, I say he's the man the rest of the season.
That said, I don't see how they can keep him from under center now. Kolb blew it and the injury means he won't have a chance to fix it.
My guess is Vick is the starter next game or two while Kolb recovers. If Vick keeps it up even half way, I say he's the man the rest of the season.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Reid isn't exactly known for good clock management.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
If Vick plays next week like he played this week, I would think there's a pretty good chance he could keep the job for good.
bluesclues
Footballguy
The O line played horrible with Kolb in there and he took a beating.Regardless, switching QB's up every 3 plays didn't help get a rhythym for Kolb either - but he had issues far deeper than that.Lets see how next week goes - they play the Lions.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Is there a Michael Vick bandwagon thread around here anywhere??
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knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Kolb better get healthy this week. If Vick gets the start against Detroit next week, Vick holds the job for the foreseeable future.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Vick looks FAST
Vick has a cannon for an arm .... still
Vick made some nice throws and some bad ones
Vick has a cannon for an arm .... still
Vick made some nice throws and some bad ones
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
I don't think Reid's ego would allow that.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Vick looked great up until that last drive where he couldn't make a decision, prob should of ran it in. He did look way better than Kolb. Wonder how much non-Kolb owners will be bidding for Vick.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
If the Kolb owner in my keeper league drops him then I won't be able to put the waiver claim in fast enough. Classic over reaction. The kid will struggle at times but Any Reid knows this is a process.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Coach Reid: Kevin Kolb will start if healthy
Coach Andy Reid said that Kevin Kolb (concussion) will start against the Lions in Week 2 if he is cleared.
As expected. Even though Michael Vick looked tremendous in relief of an ineffective Kolb, Reid isn't going to bench his hand-picked quarterback of the future after one bad half. Vick can still be added by Kolb owners and those in deep leagues, but it's going to take a lot for Reid to make an official switch. If healthy, Kolb should gain some confidence against a woeful Lions' secondary next week. Sep. 12 - 7:56 pm et
Source: Jeff McLane on Twitter
Coach Andy Reid said that Kevin Kolb (concussion) will start against the Lions in Week 2 if he is cleared.
As expected. Even though Michael Vick looked tremendous in relief of an ineffective Kolb, Reid isn't going to bench his hand-picked quarterback of the future after one bad half. Vick can still be added by Kolb owners and those in deep leagues, but it's going to take a lot for Reid to make an official switch. If healthy, Kolb should gain some confidence against a woeful Lions' secondary next week. Sep. 12 - 7:56 pm et
Source: Jeff McLane on Twitter
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Here's how it will play out:1. Kolb will not be cleared for next week. Vick will start.2. If Vick plays well, then Kolb won't be cleared for Week 3, either.3. This pattern will continue until Vick has a bad game OR the Eagles lose a winnable game, at which point Kolb will magically be cleared to play.4. If Kolb performs poorly, then Reid will blame it on rustiness and give Kolb a second chance.Reid would rather win with Kolb, but you know he wants to see if Vick can still play like he did from 2002-2006.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Are you suggesting that even if Doctor's clear Kolb to play, he won't be activated? Why wouldn't Reid want him as a backup?
Mark Davis
Footballguy
I never understood it either. He had looked lost in his other action before those games. I believe his two big performances consisted of one against the Chiefs and one in a blowout. He may yet be an elite QB, but I just don't see what all the hype is about. He has really good skill guys to help him, if he can't do it in Philly, he can't do it anywhere.GoBirds said:
GoBirds
Footballguy
Outside of those 2 games he looked horrible, the Ravens ate him alive and at least 1 pick 6 comes to mind.
shader
Footballguy
It always amazes me that people say such negative things about Vick as a QB.
Vick was a DYNAMITE quarterback. He had his flaws, and he wasn't a great passer...but in fairness, he had terrible receivers.
But when healthy he won a ton of games for the Falcons and was a tremendous QB.
That being said, there's no way Andy Reid can trade Donovan McNabb and then put Kolb on the bench after one half. When he's ready, he'll be out there again.
But the bad part about Kolb now is that the fans are going to be ON HIM for every mistake now. Will he have the mental fortitude to handle it?
We'll see.
Vick was a DYNAMITE quarterback. He had his flaws, and he wasn't a great passer...but in fairness, he had terrible receivers.
But when healthy he won a ton of games for the Falcons and was a tremendous QB.
That being said, there's no way Andy Reid can trade Donovan McNabb and then put Kolb on the bench after one half. When he's ready, he'll be out there again.
But the bad part about Kolb now is that the fans are going to be ON HIM for every mistake now. Will he have the mental fortitude to handle it?
We'll see.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
thats one of the most tried and tired statements...........well atleast from 8-3years ago. only time that ever worked was with 1guy(Derrick Brooks) and the bucs
Just because of the stakes involved with the McNabb trade and not wanting to look like a fool, I say Philly starts Kolb against next week EVEN IF HE'S NOT 100% to try and give the kid some confidence against what is still perceived to be a weak Detroit secondary (chalking up all of the Bears turnovers today to Cutler-Martz being sucktastic).
That being said, I think the loss of Weaver & Jamaal Jackson hurts this team's prospects tremendously.
That being said, I think the loss of Weaver & Jamaal Jackson hurts this team's prospects tremendously.
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Mark Davis
Footballguy
I agree that he will get the start if he's available. They have no choice but to stick with Kolb and hope he works out. The Philly fans are going to be on him pretty quick though if he doesn't pick it up, especially with Michael Vick looking so good in relief. If he also looks bad against Detroit, then it's time to really panic. This is a team that traded for Chris Houston in an effort to upgrade their CBs.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
He had Roddy White.
