Dogs Indoors At Breweries - Yes or No? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Offshoot of the Kids At Breweries thread.

Should dogs be allowed indoors at breweries?

And to be clear, this isn't about "well behaved" dogs. This is more from the angle of if you're the owner of the brewery, do you set a policy that allows or prohibits dogs?

 

[BassNBrew]

Absolutely

 

[3C's]

Same answer as the other thread. Law here requires fixed separation (wall/glass) between production and the area where a dog can be.

 

[Jaysus]

I love dogs, especially other people's dogs. I want to see more dogs at all the places

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm a little disappointed in the "similar threads" feature on this site.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I love dogs, especially other people's dogs. I want to see more dogs at all the places

Can’t tell….if serious…..

But I’ll agree!!!!

 

[3C's]

I love dogs, especially other people's dogs. I want to see more dogs at all the places

Can’t tell….if serious…..

But I’ll agree!!!!

Jaysus don't lie

 

[cheese]

I don't like it and it would make me less likely to go to a place, but businesses should be allowed to do what works for them. If their community of regulars prefers yes, YES should be allowed. We don't all have to like every brewery environment.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm a little disappointed in the "similar threads" feature on this site.

How so? I thought the article was interesting and thought a poll might be interesting.

 

[Mister CIA]

Tempted to fire up a "Should Baptists be Allowed at Breweries" poll, but not sure if the humor will land.

 

[urbanhack]

If it's a just a brewery with no food or formal service then yes.

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm a little disappointed in the "similar threads" feature on this site.

How so? I thought the article was interesting and thought a poll might be interesting.

It did not pull in @Willie Neslon 's thread.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If it's a just a brewery with no food or formal service then yes.

Thanks. How does the dynamic change in your opinion if there's food served? Or if a server comes to the table?

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm a little disappointed in the "similar threads" feature on this site.

How so? I thought the article was interesting and thought a poll might be interesting.

It did not pull in @Willie Neslon 's thread.

Do you have a link to the thread?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

 

[Hawks64]

It's a simple no for me. I've seen way too many issues with irresponsible owners bringing in aggressive dogs, and a few times where other patrons were bit because of it.

ETA - I am a huge dog person, have two myself, and used to bring ours until they got protective and barky. Then we stopped bringing them, but many others don't and put their dogs in situations they should not be in, which is wildly unfair to the dog and the other patrons.

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm a little disappointed in the "similar threads" feature on this site.

How so? I thought the article was interesting and thought a poll might be interesting.

It did not pull in @Willie Neslon 's thread.

Do you have a link to the thread?

Thread 'Tense interaction with a dog owner in a bar on my birthday - Photo of dog added to post 1' https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...birthday-photo-of-dog-added-to-post-1.808433/

 

[Joe Schmo]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Dogs are cool. It's the people that suck. Our little brewery allowed dogs for the first few years of it's existence and it was great. We took ours frequently. But she was well behaved and never caused any issues. She knew all the staff and loved going there. Then people started bringing all manner of un-socialized beasts. Fights happened. A brewery employee was bitten. That caused the breweries insurance to catch wind of the "dogs allowed" policy and it was shut down in a hurry. My girl misses the brewery and I don't go nearly as often.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

This is why I chose dog all those years ago.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I’d rather dogs at brewers than kids.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

Be honest - how many times has a dog lunged at you in a Brewery? I guess I live in a dog friendly city (where plenty of places allow dogs) and people are smart enough to not bring aggressive dogs into public places - a bit of drool on the floor near a sleeping dog, is the biggest transgressions you'll see from a dog around here.

******* drunks are much bigger problems at bars/breweries, imo. Should we ban people from breweries?

 

[Zow]

I believe we've dealt with this issue before. Nonetheless, my take is clear: There is a market for dog friendly bars and I love them because it gives a place for dog lovers to go enjoy a beer and lets somebody like me (who isn't a dog lover) know where not to go. Win-win.

ETA: Voted "absolutely no" based on the way the question is phrased. I don't inherently disapprove of a designated outside patio portion provided the dogs are kept away from main walking areas. Again, though, I 100% champion designated dog friendly bars.

 

[Joe Schmo]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

Be honest - how many times has a dog lunged at you in a Brewery? I guess I live in a dog friendly city (where plenty of places allow dogs) and people are smart enough to not bring aggressive dogs into public places - a bit of drool on the floor near a sleeping dog, is the biggest transgressions you'll see from a dog around here.

******* drunks are much bigger problems at bars/breweries, imo. Should we ban people from breweries?

Can't say it's specific to breweries but I've been approached in an aggressive manor by dogs in other situations more than a few times in my life that I knw that it is always a possibility which makes me especially leery in a closed setting like a brewery. And I've seen dog fights occur at dog runs so I know that can happen at any moment as well. I don't trust owners in general to properly vet their animal even if specific pets and owners are good doobies.

 

[urbanhack]

If it's a just a brewery with no food or formal service then yes.

Thanks. How does the dynamic change in your opinion if there's food served? Or if a server comes to the table?

Typically a brewery without food service is a more casual, spread out environment with high tops, a bar and even outdoor space which lends itself to being more dog friendly. Just not a fan of having dogs around where food is being served. It happens a lot out here in PDX with dogs laying on the ground next to tables and in the way. Not great.

 

[brun]

I can't drink alcohol openly at a dog park. So, ef'em, I don't want dogs at my brewery.

 

[NutterButter]

More dogs. Less people. Everywhere.

 

[Zow]

I’d rather dogs at brewers than kids.

Some of my favorite bonding memories with my father in law was "taking a walk" when I had two infants - which meant walking down to the local brewery and having a pint. This was done usually in the afternoon when the brewery wasn't crowded. I'd take them outside if they cried. Seemed to be a non-issue.

I would not take my kids now 7-10 in age range to a brewery, though, out of courtesy to others. So, I get that preference.

 

[Zow]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

Be honest - how many times has a dog lunged at you in a Brewery? I guess I live in a dog friendly city (where plenty of places allow dogs) and people are smart enough to not bring aggressive dogs into public places - a bit of drool on the floor near a sleeping dog, is the biggest transgressions you'll see from a dog around here.

******* drunks are much bigger problems at bars/breweries, imo. Should we ban people from breweries?

Can't say it's specific to breweries but I've been approached in an aggressive manor by dogs in other situations more than a few times in my life that I knw that it is always a possibility which makes me especially leery in a closed setting like a brewery. And I've seen dog fights occur at dog runs so I know that can happen at any moment as well. I don't trust owners in general to properly vet their animal even if specific pets and owners are good doobies.

Yep. I've been bitten badly twice in public. Until the mindset of "well, it's your fault for showing fear" goes away, we cannot openly trust dogs in public. Mainly because their owners cannot be trusted.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

Be honest - how many times has a dog lunged at you in a Brewery? I guess I live in a dog friendly city (where plenty of places allow dogs) and people are smart enough to not bring aggressive dogs into public places - a bit of drool on the floor near a sleeping dog, is the biggest transgressions you'll see from a dog around here.

******* drunks are much bigger problems at bars/breweries, imo. Should we ban people from breweries?

Can't say it's specific to breweries but I've been approached in an aggressive manor by dogs in other situations more than a few times in my life that I knw that it is always a possibility which makes me especially leery in a closed setting like a brewery. And I've seen dog fights occur at dog runs so I know that can happen at any moment as well. I don't trust owners in general to properly vet their animal even if specific pets and owners are good doobies.

I've seen occasional dog fights at a dog park - I've also seen fist fights between people at bars.

I think people tend to exaggerate their experiences a bit in threads/discussions like this.

I'm not accusing you of that but, as an example, one thing you brought up was how dogs are dirty and smelly and you don't want to sit near one in a brewery because of that - That may be a thing where you live - but around here people are not bringing dirty stinky dogs into a brewery.

I guess the problem with these threads is people don't answer the real question "Should a dog or children be allowed in.....?" but rather express what their preference is.

The obvious answer should always be "whatever a private owner wants to do within the parameter of the law and let the market decide". If you hate dogs then you should not go to a place that allows them and the same for someone that wants to take their dogs everywhere if a place does not allow it leave him/her home.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

My favorite local is Black Husky Brewery (https://blackhuskybrewing.com/), so I'm a yes on this one.

 

[bonsai]

Indoors? Absolutely not. Outdoors? To an extent.

 

[Stoneworker]

The obvious answer should always be "whatever a private owner wants to do within the parameter of the law and let the market decide". If you hate dogs then you should not go to a place that allows them and the same for someone that wants to take their dogs everywhere if a place does not allow it leave him/her home.

This is well said

I will add that is on the brewery owner/mgmt to accept/manage risks of allowing dogs (insurance, monitor behavior, etc)

 

[Joe Schmo]

When your mutt snarls at me while I walk past to get to the bathroom I may just go ahead and kick it, fyi.

You sound like you go places looking for a fight and if you kick someone's dog, you'll get one, I'm sure.

Dogs at Breweries are usually passed out on the floor or at their owner's feet - I generally don't see aggressive dogs in public places.

I trust you Dr. Oc, but I don't trust all the other dog owners who swear up and down that their dog would never, ever in a million years act aggressive or lunge or snap or bite at anyone, they are just the most gentle beast ever created! Until their dog bites, lunges or snaps at me. also the smell of dirty or wet dog is gross and takes away from the ambience of my time enjoying a drink with my friends. And please don't think it's ok for your dog to sniff me when I walk by cuz I dont find it cute.

Be honest - how many times has a dog lunged at you in a Brewery? I guess I live in a dog friendly city (where plenty of places allow dogs) and people are smart enough to not bring aggressive dogs into public places - a bit of drool on the floor near a sleeping dog, is the biggest transgressions you'll see from a dog around here.

******* drunks are much bigger problems at bars/breweries, imo. Should we ban people from breweries?

Can't say it's specific to breweries but I've been approached in an aggressive manor by dogs in other situations more than a few times in my life that I knw that it is always a possibility which makes me especially leery in a closed setting like a brewery. And I've seen dog fights occur at dog runs so I know that can happen at any moment as well. I don't trust owners in general to properly vet their animal even if specific pets and owners are good doobies.

I've seen occasional dog fights at a dog park - I've also seen fist fights between people at bars.

I think people tend to exaggerate their experiences a bit in threads/discussions like this.

I'm not accusing you of that but, as an example, one thing you brought up was how dogs are dirty and smelly and you don't want to sit near one in a brewery because of that - That may be a thing where you live - but around here people are not bringing dirty stinky dogs into a brewery.

I guess the problem with these threads is people don't answer the real question "Should a dog or children be allowed in.....?" but rather express what their preference is.

The obvious answer should always be "whatever a private owner wants to do within the parameter of the law and let the market decide". If you hate dogs then you should not go to a place that allows them and the same for someone that wants to take their dogs everywhere if a place does not allow it leave him/her home.

My response is a preference and also a decision I would make as an owner of the facility. Dogs and children are only as well behaved and clean and apt to not cause kerfuffle as their owner/parent are responsible and as you point out people are not always responsible therefore I do not trust dogs and kids in an area where grown ups will be drinking as a primary activity while enjoying their company.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

In the biz. I go with outdoor spaces only. So I guess my vote is a no.

 

[ChiefD]

Big fan of less dogs in public spaces. A dog does not need to be in a home depot where people are trying to load lumber and other projects. A dog does not need to be in a grocery store where people are trying to get through and get their shopping done. A dog should not be in a restaurant where people are trying to go out and have a nice meal without the distraction of dogs all over the place. If you serve food - no dogs. Dogs should not be at malls, pharmacies, or whatever place people take them.

Dogs can stay home, people. If you can't live without your dog for two hours than go seek some help. Dogs everywhere makes it stressful on the dog and all the other people trying to go about their day without a dog under their feet all the time.

I love dogs. Have one at home. But man it's getting old seeing dogs literally everywhere these days. And if I see one more dog panting in the back of the car because their owner just can't leave them at home for a half hour I'm gonna get all ragey up in their business.

:rantover:

I love dogs. Don't hate me.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

We are a dog family. Love our pup. But not all dog owners are the best. In fact I would say my wife is not the best public dog owner as she is way too loose about letting our dog get up in other people's business. Our dog is great and would listen the second she is told not to do something but my wife kinda walks around like everyone in the world wants our dog's attention. I have to be the one to tell her no, and then get a side-eye from the wife.

And there are a lot of dog owners like this. I remember going on a hike a few years ago where there was a narrow crossing that had gotten icy and we had our small kids with us. Everyone was taking it really slowly and we certainly were as well with the littles. Then someone just lets their offleash dog sprint across the narrow icy area while we were on it and it damn near knocked my wife (with kid in backpack) off the trail into a gully.

Another I had recently was a hike up to a nice waterfall. Wet dog plays in the waterfall, shakes itself off right by where I'm trying to eat my peanut butter sandwich to cover me in wet dog, and then stands right in front of me begging for food. Owner says nothing. C'mon, man.

Back to the topic at hand, I think it's totally fine but knowing sometimes people will want to hang with other people's dogs and sometimes they won't. So it's just like the kids question. Some breweries have dogs, some have kids, some have neither, and you can frequent which ever one you're in the mood/situation for on that day.

If this was a blanket question where ALL breweries had to either allow dogs or not, then hard no. But individually sure, why not. If I don't feel like hanging with dogs on that day I'll just go to a different one.

 

[Zow]

The obvious answer should always be "whatever a private owner wants to do within the parameter of the law and let the market decide". If you hate dogs then you should not go to a place that allows them and the same for someone that wants to take their dogs everywhere if a place does not allow it leave him/her home.

I think we can all sign on to this position. My only caveat would be that the establishment should make it clear whether it's dog-friendly or not and stick to the policy.

 

[Drunken knight]

outdoors- yes

indoors- service only; food service-> no. hygiene issues, plus food can make dogs more stimulated/aggressive.

 

[Scoresman]

Absolutely yes. But not on stools or chairs. Under the table, not bothering anyone or getting into food. And restaurants should have the clear right to ask people to leave if their dog is misbehaved.

I eat 3 meals a day around my dog. No hygiene issues.

 

[Gatorade]

Tempted to fire up a "Should Baptists be Allowed at Breweries" poll, but not sure if the humor will land.

only on weekdays
from a former Baptist

 

[Gatorade]

I live in a very dog friendly town. People bring them everywhere. I don't mind at all, but keep them outside.
Like someone said earlier, it's the owners that are a problem. If you cannot control your dog or it is a "bad" dog, then leave it home.

 

[Scoresman]

I live in a very dog friendly town. People bring them everywhere. I don't mind at all, but keep them outside.
Like someone said earlier, it's the owners that are a problem. If you cannot control your dog or it is a "bad" dog, then leave it home.

But this is true whether they are outside or inside. Why the distinction? Why allow outside but not inside? A misbehaved dog is as much a problem in both scenarios.

 

[Gally]

This is more from the angle of if you're the owner of the brewery, do you set a policy that allows or prohibits dogs?

Based on this statement the answer is absolutely no.

If it is my business I don't want the hassle or any risk of issues.

If another person wants their business to allow dogs then publicize it and you can go there if you want.

In general I don't think animals should be allowed in restaurants and given a choice will avoid places that allow it.

 

[Stoneworker]

I live in a very dog friendly town. People bring them everywhere. I don't mind at all, but keep them outside.
Like someone said earlier, it's the owners that are a problem. If you cannot control your dog or it is a "bad" dog, then leave it home.

But this is true whether they are outside or inside. Why the distinction? Why allow outside but not inside? A misbehaved dog is as much a problem in both scenarios.

I'm no expert but it's been my experience that dogs are more protective of their owners in closed-in spaces, and therefore more prone to aggression. Especially inherently protective breeds like german shepherd.

Indoor spaces also tend to be louder, and since dogs already have ultra-sensitive hearing (or maybe nerve issues) it can make them more agitated.

 

[Scoresman]

I live in a very dog friendly town. People bring them everywhere. I don't mind at all, but keep them outside.
Like someone said earlier, it's the owners that are a problem. If you cannot control your dog or it is a "bad" dog, then leave it home.

But this is true whether they are outside or inside. Why the distinction? Why allow outside but not inside? A misbehaved dog is as much a problem in both scenarios.

I'm no expert but it's been my experience that dogs are more protective of their owners in closed-in spaces, and therefore more prone to aggression. Especially inherently protective breeds like german shepherd.

Indoor spaces also tend to be louder, and since dogs already have ultra-sensitive hearing (or maybe nerve issues) it can make them more agitated.

It all comes down to how well you know your dog and how well it's trained. I agree that misbehaved dogs have no place at restaurants and leaving it up to the public to decide if their dog will be good is a losing proposition.

I still don't understand the hygienic aspect of it. Someone posted a health code above about there being a requirement to have an enclosed wall or something between the animal and the kitchen. I don't have that in my home, nor do I think any other of the millions of dog owners and it's perfectly hygienic. Especially when you are allowing small kids in who are likely to be sick, crying spreading their illness and getting food all over the place.

 

[Max Power]

Big fan of less dogs in public spaces. A dog does not need to be in a home depot where people are trying to load lumber and other projects. A dog does not need to be in a grocery store where people are trying to get through and get their shopping done. A dog should not be in a restaurant where people are trying to go out and have a nice meal without the distraction of dogs all over the place. If you serve food - no dogs. Dogs should not be at malls, pharmacies, or whatever place people take them.

Dogs can stay home, people. If you can't live without your dog for two hours than go seek some help. Dogs everywhere makes it stressful on the dog and all the other people trying to go about their day without a dog under their feet all the time.

I love dogs. Have one at home. But man it's getting old seeing dogs literally everywhere these days. And if I see one more dog panting in the back of the car because their owner just can't leave them at home for a half hour I'm gonna get all ragey up in their business.

:rantover:

I love dogs. Don't hate me.

You can get a doctor to prescribe an emotional support dog

 

[The Gator]

I’d rather dogs at brewers than kids.

 

[General Malaise]

Question: Does a brewery owner who permits dogs inside the establishment need to clarify this with their insurance provider?

I ask because I know for property insurance, sometimes underwriters will ask about dogs - and some insurance carriers won't issue coverage if you own a pit-bull or another breed of dog with a bad rap.

So I have to wonder if these breweries that allow dogs indoors have to have some sort of coverage in the event a dog bites a customer. We live in a very litigious world, I can't imagine this hasn't been broached before.

 

[beer 30]

I'm in the minority but I'm kinda over the whole dog thing. I don't need your dog in every aspect of my life. I still voted on the fence because I feel like breweries present a different opportunity sometimes but overall, I'm good not seeing your dog.