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DONE DEAL: Randy Moss to Vikings trade (1 Viewer)

Adebisi said:
SoBeDad said:
Welker's not 100%. Imagine if he misses time - then Brady would have a chance to prove that he's the GOAT.
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Yeah, he's been so spoiled with great WRs throughout his career. Imagine if he got stuck throwing to Deion Branch/David Givens quality receivers! :) He probably wouldn't accomplish much of anything.
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The Patriots were a better overall team back then. If they lose Moss their offense is going to suffer. As far as Brady is concerned, his ff value takes a huge hit. Unless someone thinks it was a coincidence he went from a career high 28 TD passes to 50 when Moss came to town.
 
Glazer just Tweeted that the deal has hit some snags. My guess is that's the Vikings and Moss coming to a contract agreement. He also said this deal was started BEFORE last night's game. Very interesting and certainly makes Moss' lack of involvement more understandable.

 
dickey moe said:
Ministry of Pain said:
dickey moe said:
Haven't read through this entire thread, but for those who think this would be a big upgrade for Moss -- why?
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He's very familiar with the Dome and actually uses the video screens in that building to throw defenders off. It was documented when he 1st came into the league. He can run routes in the place without looking for the ball while monitoring the screens with his eyes and turn at the last minute to make some pretty amazing circus catches. Carter taught him how to do it and for whatever reason it works really well in that particluar Dome. I found this link Scroll to Ch 2
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I could see his value potentially rising this year in re-draft but what about dynasty prospects? The Vikings QB situation will probably be dicey next season and likely for the foreseeable future. Lot of competition at WR/TE, too.
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he must have good eyes those big screens are garbage at the dome. Dynasty he was gone from the pats anyways, no telling where he would have went.

 
switz said:
David Yudkin said:
Heard from someone else who thinks this is going to happen and it's not just a rumor.
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No it's not a rumor. Contract is already being negotiated. Vikes want to sign Moss to long term deal to "retire as a Viking" - Moss doesn't want that as this is clearly Favre's last year and they have no one behind him. But you'd think it'd be smart from a money POV for Moss to the long term deal.
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No long term deal for McNabb after this season in washington. If Favre retires, McNabb to Minny might be possible. McNabb to Moss 2011?
 
packersfan said:
Glazer just Tweeted that the deal has hit some snags. My guess is that's the Vikings and Moss coming to a contract agreement. He also said this deal was started BEFORE last night's game. Very interesting and certainly makes Moss' lack of involvement more understandable.
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:)
 
packersfan said:
Mustang Man said:
You would know the Pack better then me. I still think BJ and Kuhn do not scare anyone on play action and Lynch would have been an upgrade that is needed pretty bad for GB. Only time will tell.
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Not to hijack the thread, but it would have been a huge addition. However, that's not Ted Thompson's style. He HATES to part with top draft picks for players and he's not an aggressive GM. He's the anti-Ron Wolf in that regard. That's why I never believed a Lynch trade would happen. If the Vikings did this the same day (or one day later) after Lynch was traded for a easy price to pay Packer fans are going to be mighty upset. And with just cause. The Vikings will have gone out and addressed their No. 1 need while Thompson sat on the sidelines again.
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Yeah, trying to not hijack...but it's not like there's any Moss news right now :) . Anyway, I never said I didn't want Lynch either, but like every other Packer fan I didn't think it would happen.However, I am in the minority on one thing. I love TT. I think he's done a hell of a job. Look at these other teams that lose a HoF QB and manage to sink hard and fast to the bottom. That didn't happen in GB. People railed on the Rodgers pick. Looks pretty good now, doesn't it. Anyway, we can save the TT banter for the GB thread.
 
The talking sports heads here in Boston are chucking Moss under the bus and running back and forth all over him! Talking about how he never made any significant contributions during their playoff runs, how he's been trash since he arrived in NE, "Are the Pats a better team without Randy Moss? I've been saying that for years!," etc. These guys are either morons or women scorned!

My guess this deal only needs the i's dotted and t's crossed.

 
I do not post much but thought I would chime in. I Know someone who is a family member of someone really high up in the Minn. organization and talked to him at length yesterday about how bad things are in Minny.

He said that they expect Sidney Rice to be out 3/4 of the season or more and clearly they have receiver issues. His take was that Berrian is not the answer, Harvin is good but clearly not able to be the an up there and the guys they have picked up aren't doing well in practice. He said Schiancoe's Hamstring injury is high up as opposed to towards the knee (not sure if that makes it worse or better as far as hamstrings go) I asked him how close they were to signing V Jackson and he did not really know so it doesn't surprise me that he didn't Mention Moss' name. (would have been pretty cool to have broken that here I must admit). :)

I asked him about Favre and his take on the whole pre-season thing was that Favre really was content to stay retired and sort of resented the fact that the players were sent to his farm to recruit him to come back. It wasn't more of the same Favre flip flopping that we have become used to.

All in all I do not think the mood up there is very good and this move to get Moss makes alot of sense based on the things I heard from him.

 
As a 1 and 3 Moss owner facing one of the best teams in my league in week 5, I'd love this deal to go thru just to get Moss back with no bye week.

And who knows how Moss might respond back on the fast track in Minnesota. He could be huge again like his 1st year in New England.

Hope this gets done.

 
Max Power said:
SeniorVBDStudent said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st? There is absolutely no chance that pats get a first for Moss.
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Clearly Moss is no Jay Cutler.
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Do you really need the difference broken down?
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Adebisi is fishing in here and with this many folks it's like shooting ducks in a barrel.
 
Adebisi said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st? There is absolutely no chance that pats get a first for Moss.
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Do you think that Moss would be more or less valuable to the Vikings than, say, Richard Seymour was for the Raiders last year?
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Come on man....the bolded is all you need to know. Right now, no team in the league would give up a first for Moss.
 
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st? There is absolutely no chance that pats get a first for Moss.
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Do you think that Moss would be more or less valuable to the Vikings than, say, Richard Seymour was for the Raiders last year?
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Come on man....the bolded is all you need to know. Right now, no team in the league would give up a first for Moss.
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The Vikings have made an attempt at every wr that has been out there, they showed they are desperate.....They very well may come off a second.
 
Brady Gaga said:
As a 1 and 3 Moss owner facing one of the best teams in my league in week 5, I'd love this deal to go thru just to get Moss back with no bye week.And who knows how Moss might respond back on the fast track in Minnesota. He could be huge again like his 1st year in New England.Hope this gets done.
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He'd be pretty much guaranteed to get double-digit targets most weeks. The opportunity alone enhances his fantasy value. And Favre can still make the throws. He just lacks total confidence in his receivers other than Shiancoe and to a lesser extent Harvin. It wouldn't solve Minnesota's offensive line issues and there would be some concern that could impact how effective Moss is downfield. But adding a player of Moss' talent to that offense, combined with what Favre still has left and Peterson's elite skills at RB and you're looking at a vastly improved Minnesota team and a team that suddenly becomes a legit Super Bowl contender again in my opinion.
 
da_budman said:
I do not post much but thought I would chime in. I Know someone who is a family member of someone really high up in the Minn. organization and talked to him at length yesterday about how bad things are in Minny. He said that they expect Sidney Rice to be out 3/4 of the season or more and clearly they have receiver issues. His take was that Berrian is not the answer, Harvin is good but clearly not able to be the an up there and the guys they have picked up aren't doing well in practice. He said Schiancoe's Hamstring injury is high up as opposed to towards the knee (not sure if that makes it worse or better as far as hamstrings go) I asked him how close they were to signing V Jackson and he did not really know so it doesn't surprise me that he didn't Mention Moss' name. (would have been pretty cool to have broken that here I must admit). :P I asked him about Favre and his take on the whole pre-season thing was that Favre really was content to stay retired and sort of resented the fact that the players were sent to his farm to recruit him to come back. It wasn't more of the same Favre flip flopping that we have become used to. All in all I do not think the mood up there is very good and this move to get Moss makes alot of sense based on the things I heard from him.
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budman :knows stuff:
 
David Yudkin said:
ESPN Radio said they thought the terms would be a 2nd and a 5th.
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If I'm the Vikings I do this. Yes it impacts you long-term but you're clearly thinking about this year anyway with Favre. I think this is a very reasonable price to pay to add a big-time player who addresses your No. 1 need.
 
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st? There is absolutely no chance that pats get a first for Moss.
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Do you think that Moss would be more or less valuable to the Vikings than, say, Richard Seymour was for the Raiders last year?
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Come on man....the bolded is all you need to know. Right now, no team in the league would give up a first for Moss.
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I'm not sure I get this.Yeah, age contract, etc.

But what team would not trade a 1st if in their heart of hearts they truly believed it would get them to the Super Bowl?

The Vikes and their fans are as or more passionate about the big game than almost any franchise at this point; I'd say do it, just do it. I say this as a Saints fan who knows what it is to never see the ring and who would hate to see the Vikes get Moss.

 
If there is no 2011 NFL season, why wouldn't the Vikings go all in on this season.

 
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Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st for a soon to be FA? At the very best he would go for what the Broncos got for Marshall (but he will go for less b/c of age considerations)
 
atcdav said:
Tom Curran just tweeted Moss showed up mad today and had words with BB. He thinks its a done deal if Moss and Vikes can come to terms
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Something had to happen. Teams just don't trade away their #1 WR this early in the season out of nowhere.
 
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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I don't think they have their 1st. Didn't they trade that away for Allen? Or was that this year's pick?
 
Football Critic said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
thekidd2009 said:
Adebisi said:
Where are you guys hearing that it's a 3rd? I'd think the Pats would be able to fleece Minnesota for at least a 2nd, if not a 1st.
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A 1st? There is absolutely no chance that pats get a first for Moss.
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Do you think that Moss would be more or less valuable to the Vikings than, say, Richard Seymour was for the Raiders last year?
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Come on man....the bolded is all you need to know. Right now, no team in the league would give up a first for Moss.
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The Vikings have made an attempt at every wr that has been out there, they showed they are desperate.....They very well may come off a second.
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And they weren't willing to pay a high price for any of them...
 
mozzy84 said:
packersfan said:
David Yudkin said:
ESPN Radio said they thought the terms would be a 2nd and a 5th.
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If I'm the Vikings I do this. Yes it impacts you long-term but you're clearly thinking about this year anyway with Favre. I think this is a very reasonable price to pay to add a big-time player who addresses your No. 1 need.
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Same thinking here, they have to resign him though
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Does Moss want to resign long term with a team that has no answer at QB for next season though?
 
scott72 said:
atcdav said:
Tom Curran just tweeted Moss showed up mad today and had words with BB. He thinks its a done deal if Moss and Vikes can come to terms
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Something had to happen. Teams just don't trade away their #1 WR this early in the season out of nowhere.
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isnt the trade deadline coming up in a couple weeks? They would only have him one more game anyways before they would have to move him.
 
mozzy84 said:
scott72 said:
atcdav said:
Tom Curran just tweeted Moss showed up mad today and had words with BB. He thinks its a done deal if Moss and Vikes can come to terms
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Something had to happen. Teams just don't trade away their #1 WR this early in the season out of nowhere.
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isnt the trade deadline coming up in a couple weeks? They would only have him one more game anyways before they would have to move him.
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Trade deadline is Oct. 19.It also behooves the Vikings to act now because adding Moss could help them avoid a 1-3 start. The Jets' defense hasn't been all that so far. With Moss, the Vikings could win that game next Monday night.
 
mozzy84 said:
scott72 said:
atcdav said:
Tom Curran just tweeted Moss showed up mad today and had words with BB. He thinks its a done deal if Moss and Vikes can come to terms
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Something had to happen. Teams just don't trade away their #1 WR this early in the season out of nowhere.
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isnt the trade deadline coming up in a couple weeks? They would only have him one more game anyways before they would have to move him.
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October 19 is the trade deadline.
 
basher said:
mozzy84 said:
packersfan said:
David Yudkin said:
ESPN Radio said they thought the terms would be a 2nd and a 5th.
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If I'm the Vikings I do this. Yes it impacts you long-term but you're clearly thinking about this year anyway with Favre. I think this is a very reasonable price to pay to add a big-time player who addresses your No. 1 need.
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Same thinking here, they have to resign him though
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Does Moss want to resign long term with a team that has no answer at QB for next season though?
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good question, pretty sure ziggy will throw enough money at him it may not matter though.
 
If I were a betting man, I'd say they don't trade him due to contract demands. Guy could go out and get top dollar (if there is a season) on the market.

I don't think it's happening tonight, folks.

 
nysportsfan said:
If I were a betting man, I'd say they don't trade him due to contract demands. Guy could go out and get top dollar (if there is a season) on the market. I don't think it's happening tonight, folks.
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He doesn't have a no trade clause, and it would actually help his contract perspectives to move to a team where he would get more than 5 targets a game. On the Vikes end, if they can't come to a long term deal they can always franchise him, or basically give up the 3rd for a one year rental since they pretty much seem like they have put all their eggs into the this year basket anyways
 
Chicago Hooligan said:
az_prof said:
As a Vikings fan I would love this. I didn't like the Vjax trade, but I suspect Moss would come cheaper, and he SHOULD retire in purple anyway. And go into the HOF in purple. Give a third, sign him to a deal where he retires in MN*, and get it down.
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*without a ring
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Oooo, he'll have a ring. Trust me, my little bear friend, he'll have a ring if he comes to MN. Much sooner than Cutler and your Bears will.
 
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