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Most likely scenario: Woody Johnson led Charlie Casserly to believe he'd have full authority in coach selection and/or Charlie Casserly led Marrone to believe he'd have full authority in coach selection.
guy did wonders for the Bills OL. might get Bortles killed.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
4 million bucks
mark schlereth @markschlereth 6m6 minutes ago
I have to feel that Doug Marone hurt his chances of ever being a head coach in NFL again by opting out of his contract in Buffalo
I have to feel that Doug Marone hurt his chances of ever being a head coach in NFL again by opting out of his contract in Buffalo
Raiderfan32904
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Does this guy deserve his own thread?
Insein
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Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
not sure how they did, but Marrone reportedly was more involved in coaching the Bills OL than any other position group and it was the biggest weakness on the team imo.
Mr. Brownstone
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I don't profess to know too much about Marrone's past, except for a few recent notes and the fact he skipped on out of Buffalo. But I do know that the Jags gave up 71 sacks this year.
well, the Biils ran for the fewest rush yards in franchise history under him.
Orton got rid of the ball quickly so didn't take a ton of sacks. Team gave up 39 on the year.
Sabertooth
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Reaper
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Meh... I don't think the Jets were ever in it....
I think Marrone's agent saw an opportunity with jets connections to just pretend there was interest, add in the NY media Syracuse connections and Stir it up and try to get a HC gig elswhere....
He might have also thought he was a lame duck in Buffalo so, try to pounce now.....
Either way, the guy is and always has been a OL coach....Shocked he ever got a HC gig...
In the end, his best chance to ever be a HC after next year would have been to stay in Buffalo, pray for health and better QB play and get a playoff berth...
Bills_Fan11
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I've never been into the whole "anti-national media" thing that's so prevelant on Bills boards - many of us are paranoid with an inferiority complex..
But man - I have to say Schefter & Rappaport and all these guys who share the same agent as Marrone have serious egg on their face, swearing he was going to be the most coveted coaching FA out there. Just embarrassing.
I mean I know he's pocketing $4m so it's not the end of the world for him personally, but still..
At least that "displaced home game" (in Detroit) that Rappaport was so proud of can be put to good use every year in London.
But man - I have to say Schefter & Rappaport and all these guys who share the same agent as Marrone have serious egg on their face, swearing he was going to be the most coveted coaching FA out there. Just embarrassing.
I mean I know he's pocketing $4m so it's not the end of the world for him personally, but still..
At least that "displaced home game" (in Detroit) that Rappaport was so proud of can be put to good use every year in London.
in fairness, he did get plenty of interviews. they just didn't seem to go very well.
I don't get your last comment.
George Jefferson Airplane
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According to reports he killed the Bears interview and some league executives say he's a genius. Bears were already locked in with Fox though, and he turned down the Broncos interview.
He'll get another shot, next year maybe.
GroveDiesel
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He'll be back in college in 2-3 years.
Looks like Fred Jackson will get his wish. He said just a night or two ago that he hoped to get the chance to play against Marrone this year. Sounds like a lot of Buffalo players really don't like the guy.
Seems like he made the right short term financial decision, but it may have cost him a lot more money inthe long run and ruined his NFL career.
Looks like Fred Jackson will get his wish. He said just a night or two ago that he hoped to get the chance to play against Marrone this year. Sounds like a lot of Buffalo players really don't like the guy.
Seems like he made the right short term financial decision, but it may have cost him a lot more money inthe long run and ruined his NFL career.
expecting a big turnaround year for the Jaguars OL?
how awesome does an OL coach need to be to warrant HC consideration?
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GroveDiesel
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That's the work of his agent. Marrone isn't even close to a genius. He has no clue on offense, the O-line declined all year, he made a fool of himself repeatedly when he tried to talk about analytics and he is a paranoid goofball with rabbit ears.
The best is when he argued several times that punting on 4th and short down late in games was the right move statistically. When the media/stat nerds destroyed him on that he finally went for it on 4th and short a few times but then went back to being overly conservative when it mattered.
George Jefferson Airplane
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Not sure, do you think he needs to be a coordinator this year to get another shot?
Tomsula was a D-line coach for seven years, never a coordinator except in NFL Europe. Marrone was a HC and the Bills were pretty good in his second year. He's been an NFL OC, a college HC, an NFL HC and comes from the Parcells coaching tree (and people compare him to a young Parcells). He's gonna get another shot.
would be fun to try and sell Marrone to a fan base.
the Bills were "pretty good" under him, but the offense was terrible and the team mainly relied on a defense that he had nothing to do with. also, his former players and the Bills fanbase all hate him because he opted out of his contract and basically quit.
but, some "sources" think he's really smart. he's well thought of around the league, but apparently the only position he could find after opting out of his former HC job was a position coach with the Jaguars. they didn't even have an OC position filled when they hired him, but they apparently thought he wasn't a good fit to run an offense.
He also doesn't like it when the media criticizes him about any of his decisions, and has a tendency to stubbornly dig his heels in even when his original plans aren't working very well.
But, seriously, he'll be a great head coach. He won a few games at Syracuse too. What's not to love? Buy PSLs!
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George Jefferson Airplane
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True, that team seemed to be on the rise though and offensive HC who take over defensive-driven teams have had success in the league (Fassel, Harbaugh, Gruden, etc). You'd know more than me but I thought he did a really good job there, can't blame him for Orton, Spiller, or some of the other guys. Not sure what was going on with Manuel, but obviously Marrone had no confidence in him.
wait, what?
he's exactly who I'd blame for those guys.
he helped pick Manuel to be his QB and then failed to develop him.
he got nothing out of CJ Spiller.
he sat by and did nothing while Orton regressed in front of everyone's eyes.
could not find ways to get Sammy Watkins involved in most games.
played offensive linemen that were terrible while better options sat on the sidelines.
I don't hate him as much as some, but he did not impress much during his time with the Bills. Will be interesting to see how things go under the new staff. Maybe if they bomb, it will be clear that Doug was better than people realized.
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George Jefferson Airplane
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GroveDiesel
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Yeah, Spiller was awesome under Gailey, Marrone totally changed how he was used and somehow it's Spiller's fault.
The majority of Watkins's yards and catches in college were screens and short slants. Bills threw 4 screens to him all year. Clearly Watkins's fault.
Bills have horrible problems in the Red Zone so they get Mike Williams (one of the best RZ WRs over the last 5 years) and Marrone benches him then has him cut.
Manuel never progresses but instead becomes a scared shell of a QB too afraid to make a mistake to actually throw the ball.
The O-line goes from one of the best in the league to one of the worst. Urbik, who PFF had rated as one of their best OGs 2 years ago got demoted and couldn't get back into the lineup until 3 other replacements were so bad that Marrone had no choice. And surprise surprise, Urbik did pretty well.
Robert Woods was buried so deep on the chart in the preseason that people were seriously convinced he would be cut. He ended up being clearly their #2 WR.
And on and on.
The majority of Watkins's yards and catches in college were screens and short slants. Bills threw 4 screens to him all year. Clearly Watkins's fault.
Bills have horrible problems in the Red Zone so they get Mike Williams (one of the best RZ WRs over the last 5 years) and Marrone benches him then has him cut.
Manuel never progresses but instead becomes a scared shell of a QB too afraid to make a mistake to actually throw the ball.
The O-line goes from one of the best in the league to one of the worst. Urbik, who PFF had rated as one of their best OGs 2 years ago got demoted and couldn't get back into the lineup until 3 other replacements were so bad that Marrone had no choice. And surprise surprise, Urbik did pretty well.
Robert Woods was buried so deep on the chart in the preseason that people were seriously convinced he would be cut. He ended up being clearly their #2 WR.
And on and on.
GroveDiesel
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One last comment and I'm done:
Marrone negotiated his deal a d was fully within his rights to opt out. And while it was pretty pathetic to just send a group text to the players, they weren't really hurt by this.
But one thing not mentioned is that there were a whole lot of other guys on the coaching staff that ended up losing their jobs because he left. A whole bunch of guys that his decision directly affected. He absolutely had the right to leave, but there's just no question that it was a serious #### move.
Marrone negotiated his deal a d was fully within his rights to opt out. And while it was pretty pathetic to just send a group text to the players, they weren't really hurt by this.
But one thing not mentioned is that there were a whole lot of other guys on the coaching staff that ended up losing their jobs because he left. A whole bunch of guys that his decision directly affected. He absolutely had the right to leave, but there's just no question that it was a serious #### move.
Gargoylez
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errr Jacksonville is one of the highest crime rates in th country and froma few of my friends who live there said its a bit run down.
If someone said you have a choice between Marrone and Ryan 100 out of 100 times Ill take Ryan, at least the guy is honest and works hard. Marrone is a dbag.
If someone said you have a choice between Marrone and Ryan 100 out of 100 times Ill take Ryan, at least the guy is honest and works hard. Marrone is a dbag.
zamboni
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Tommy Collins
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I really hope this is sarcasm. He came to Buffalo promising this up tempo offense. And the defense that Schwartz led had paved them to the 9-7 record. The offense was horrendous. And that was his area of expertise, specifically the OL. And it's funny that after he leaves, the run game mysteriously improves overnight.
need2know
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Casting Couch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3kX8UgLiY
DM I'm Doug Marrone, and I'm an absolute, uhhhhh I don't know the exact work I'm looking for, uhhhhh....
Reporter Idiot ?
DM No, that wouldn't be the word, hold on I'll come up with it.
DM Ummmm, Idiot, is the word I'm looking for.... Idiot.
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DM I'm Doug Marrone, and I'm an absolute, uhhhhh I don't know the exact work I'm looking for, uhhhhh....
Reporter Idiot ?
DM No, that wouldn't be the word, hold on I'll come up with it.
DM Ummmm, Idiot, is the word I'm looking for.... Idiot.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Funny how things change huh
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GroveDiesel
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FWIW, the Jaguars have denied that this is the case and Khan said that they will evaluate everyone next Wednesday. With that being said, they’re firing Doug Marrone.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Man, I almost forgot how badly Woods was misused and ignored by Marrone. The guy can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
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