Draft Question - What % Of All Fantasy Managers Rely Heavily On League Platform Rankings? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

A friend of mine said recently that he felt like a ton of fantasy managers relied heavily on the suggested draft rankings in the league platform while drafting.

I wondered what others thought.

Let's hear it.

And to be clear, this is not what YOU do.

I'm asking what percentage of ALL people drafting rely heavily on the suggested draft rankings in the league platform while drafting.

 

[Scoresman]

I actually did a brief study on this for my 25 year live draft league, comparing the league's actual draft positions to both overall ADP and site specific (CBS) adp for those years. I found that just under half of my league seems to use the CBS rankings. Surprised it was that high honestly.

 

[efactor]

I actually did a brief study on this for my 25 year live draft league, comparing the league's actual draft positions to both overall ADP and site specific (CBS) adp for those years. I found that just under half of my league seems to use the CBS rankings. Surprised it was that high honestly.

For their sakes I hope they were using Eisenberg and not Dave Richards

 

[Birdie048]

I look at it... but I do not rely on it ... I like to gauge by the draft process who is heavily relying on it and take advantage of value.

 

[pinkstapler]

I look at it... but I do not rely on it ... I like to gauge by the draft process who is heavily relying on it and take advantage of value.

Think this is the answer. There's like a bell curve of people who rely on platform rankings. It's just the people on one side are relying on it for guidance, while the other side are using other owners reliance on it as an advantage.

I think it also comes into play more for a lot of people by the mid and late rounds. Feels like a lot of people I play with will have their own rankings the go by for the first 7-8 rounds. But by the last third of the draft or so, they are just scrolling through the platform rankings looking for names they recognize.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

A lot of my redraft league owners seem to draft right off the rankings provided by the ESPN App. So it's like playing against Mike Clay a lot.

 

[bcat01]

A lot of my redraft league owners seem to draft right off the rankings provided by the ESPN App. So it's like playing against Mike Clay a lot.

My redraft Yahoo league is like this. The draft usually goes the rankings with a few outliers.

 

[LawFitz]

Lots of nuance to this. Across *all* fantasy managers, the number is probably somewhere between 40-60% IMO, but that includes and is obviously heavily influenced by casuals. In competitive leagues, I'd suggest that number drops precipitously, but even there, skew exists as savvy managers peruse not just ADP, but also platform rankings to decide when to take players they are higher on than consensus. E.g. the dudes out here who think Omar Hampton is going to be a top 5 RB this year are almost surely not taking him at RB5 in their drafts, and instead calibrating when to pounce based on ADP and where their particular platform has him ranked.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I look at it... but I do not rely on it ... I like to gauge by the draft process who is heavily relying on it and take advantage of value.

Yeah, for online drafts it does highlight the players in a way that’s sometimes beneficial and sometimes hurtful.

If I have a dude as a late 4th value, but he’s high enough on the default rankings that someone will reach for him, then I may either need to adjust my risk tolerance or decide that’s a player I won’t be taking.

It can also bury players I value more than default rankings & offer an opportunity at a discount.

I voted 70-79% just for the reason that in online drafts, that’s what everyone is seeing. Those top ~10 listed players are like a flame that attracts the default pickers.

 

[barackdhouse]

@Joe Bryant I'm not sure what the word *rely* means here. We are all sort of beholden to a platform's rankings in terms of the sites ADP in a given draft room. Because if we want to find value we have to be cognizant of where the site is putting players in the list. Doesn't mean we agree with it, but to find value we have to *rely* on it to a degree.

But I don't think that's what you're asking. If you're asking how many managers really take those rankings as gospel? I don't know probably not many I should think. So I voted for 20-29% but it's a pretty wild guess.

 

[barackdhouse]

One sort of strange example that I don't see elsewhere often enough to matter is with Underdog best ball drafts, which number in the tens of 1000s. It might happen on other platforms more than I realize but I see it on Underdog the worst.

And that is people timing out (the clocks are only 20 or 30 seconds) and ending up with whoever is ranked highest in the list. There is often a very real limit to how much you can let someone fall in UD drafts. So reaching is almost a necessity but being plugged into where the site is listing players is crucial.

 

[Gatorade]

One sort of strange example that I don't see elsewhere often enough to matter is with Underdog best ball drafts, which number in the tens of 1000s. It might happen on other platforms more than I realize but I see it on Underdog the worst.

And that is people timing out (the clocks are only 20 or 30 seconds) and ending up with whoever is ranked highest in the list. There is often a very real limit to how much you can let someone fall in UD drafts. So reaching is almost a necessity but being plugged into where the site is listing players is crucial.

I recently did a startup dynasty draft on sleeper. I was shocked how many times a pick was made after timing out. Started out at 8 hours, then later four and two at the end. Even the commissioner timed out several times. This may not bode well for the future of this league imo. I did have to reach for a couple of picks but did find a few that the rankings seemed way off and I got late. Most of those were IDP.

 

[Gatorade]

Take Sleeper for example. When drafting there, I do take into account the rankings or ADP, but I also compare that to others sites like FBG and adjust up or down. I tend to rely more on ADP by site than individual rankings. A players ranking does not always indicate where he is being drafted.

 

[Joe Bryant]

@Joe Bryant I'm not sure what the word *rely* means here. We are all sort of beholden to a platform's rankings in terms of the sites ADP in a given draft room. Because if we want to find value we have to be cognizant of where the site is putting players in the list. Doesn't mean we agree with it, but to find value we have to *rely* on it to a degree.

But I don't think that's what you're asking. If you're asking how many managers really take those rankings as gospel? I don't know probably not many I should think. So I voted for 20-29% but it's a pretty wild guess.

Yes, I mean “rely” as in using it as a guide for drafting the players it recommends. I don’t mean using it as a comparison tool against your own rankings.

 

[Gatorade]

This also varies depending on league type for me.
Redraft - except for rookies, most players I already know what to expect and draft accordingly year to year.
Dynasty - I don't watch any college football, so I probably rely more on rankings . That is why I appreciate posters like Socrates who give their rankings along with detailed explanations on their thoughts.

 

[JohnnyU]

@Joe Bryant I'm not sure what the word *rely* means here. We are all sort of beholden to a platform's rankings in terms of the sites ADP in a given draft room. Because if we want to find value we have to be cognizant of where the site is putting players in the list. Doesn't mean we agree with it, but to find value we have to *rely* on it to a degree.

But I don't think that's what you're asking. If you're asking how many managers really take those rankings as gospel? I don't know probably not many I should think. So I voted for 20-29% but it's a pretty wild guess.

Yes, I mean “rely” as in using it as a guide for drafting the players it recommends. I don’t mean using it as a comparison tool against your own rankings.

I wouldn't think any fantasy player worth their salt would just rely on some website ranking to build their team. Sounds like a rookie fantasy player move to me. Or did I read that wrong somehow?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And that is people timing out (the clocks are only 20 or 30 seconds) and ending up with whoever is ranked highest in the list. There is often a very real limit to how much you can let someone fall in UD drafts. So reaching is almost a necessity but being plugged into where the site is listing players is crucial.

Yeah, this is exactly what I was getting at above. You may have articulated it better.

There’s just nothing worse than seeing a player who *should* make it back to you get sucked up by an autodraft pick.

So yeah - it’s definitely important to define “rely” here. I do not rely upon site rankings. However at times we are all prisoners of them, so to speak.

 

[Joe Bryant]

@socrates @Chaka @Soulfly3 @Hu-Tang Clan

Thanks for voting. Can you elaborate on why you don't thing fantasy GMs follow the suggested rankings on the platforms?

 

[Joe Bryant]

And again, this is not what YOU do.

I'm trying to guage what we think other owners do.

 

[Chaka]

I didn't read the OP. My vote was based on my behavior not general consensus. I agree with @LawFitz it's highly dependent on the type of league.

 

[smbkrypt24]

To provide reasoning to my vote:

I have seen many people I have been with looking solely at the site rankings and making no alterations. Now they do select within those areas who they prefer, but no work prior to the draft to make their own rankings.
I am also in other leagues where I don't know the other members and have seen players taken not within the site ADP so I would put those members as making their own rankings.
I am in more leagues that I don't know the people so that is why I am in the 30% range.

 

[Chaka]

And FTR, nowadays I just use the Draft Dominator

 

[socrates]

@socrates @Chaka @Soulfly3 @Hu-Tang Clan

Thanks for voting. Can you elaborate on why you don't thing fantasy GMs follow the suggested rankings on the platforms?

I think there is a lot of information readily available. I don't believe Fantasy Managers typically rely on the League Website platform rankings, which are notoriously weak and out of date compared to other fantasy sites such as FBG.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And FTR, nowadays I just use the Draft Dominator

Not surprising!

I too use Draft Dominator exclusively. I wouldn't mind at all if the league platform removed the suggested rankings. In fact, I'd very much prefer it. I look at them only in the context of what I think others will do. And that's important of course.

But I was surprised at how much my friend felt tons of owners in drafts everywhere used them to draft their team.

So that's why I was asking here to see what other people thought.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And again, this is not what YOU do.

I'm trying to guage what we think other owners do.

IMO a lot of that has to do with sites like this one.

I was handed a nice little advantage in my recent start-up, as one of my RL friends in the league casually mentioned to me FBG’s ranking of a certain player.

Which tipped her hand that she’s using your site’s rankings for our league. Which allowed me to sometimes risk a player until next round, and sometimes indicating to me that she was more likely to take them before I had another shot.

With people looking for easier ways to rank, especially to their league settings, it seems pretty likely that more experienced FF heads in any given online draft are using FBG, draft sharks, fantasy pros, etc paid services.

At that point the default league rankings just become a signpost to everyone when the top ~15 players (or players at a given position) ADP is coming up.

I voted 70%+, but that was in this context - that we have no choice but to use them at various points in the draft since the players are listed. It’s easy to say “so and so is a 6th round value pick” but much harder in practice when that name floats to the top of a default rankings list mid-4th.

I’d say in an experienced league that 20-30% is probably accurate.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wouldn't mind at all if the league platform removed the suggested rankings.

I’ve wanted this forever. No putting that genie back in the bottle though.

 

[Joe Bryant]

After my friend said lots of people use the platform rankings, it did make me realize how many people I see at drafts that aren't paying attention between picks.

I was at a pretty big draft recently and people would make their pick and then socialize. That's cool for the social part but when I draft, I'm watching every pick. Partly to make sure they're removed from Draft Dominator if it's not a Sleeper or MFL draft with live draft synch.

But if you're drafting on your phone and using the sleeper rankings to suggest the next pick, I can see how one might be able to chill between picks. I'd never do it but I realize others do.

My question was how many others.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I wouldn't mind at all if the league platform removed the suggested rankings.

I’ve wanted this forever. No putting that genie back in the bottle though.

Apparently, Sleeper has a setting (I'm not sure where) where you can set the list for everyone in the draft to be alphabetical.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wouldn't mind at all if the league platform removed the suggested rankings.

I’ve wanted this forever. No putting that genie back in the bottle though.

Apparently, Sleeper has a setting (I'm not sure where) where you can set the list for everyone in the draft to be alphabetical.

Wouldn’t the individual teams be able to re-sort by rankings or ADP?

 

[Chaka]

Partly to make sure they're removed from Draft Dominator if it's not a Sleeper or MFL draft with live draft synch.

I don't see a dedicated SD thread in TSP so I'll ask here. I have one Sleeper and one NFL draft. Is there a way to do a test run to make sure the sync is working properly?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Partly to make sure they're removed from Draft Dominator if it's not a Sleeper or MFL draft with live draft synch.

I don't see a dedicated SD thread in TSP so I'll ask here. I have one Sleeper and one NFL draft. Is there a way to do a test run to make sure the sync is working properly?

I just did a start-up in MFL using the DD with autosynch and it worked like a dream.

 

[barackdhouse]

I wouldn't mind at all if the league platform removed the suggested rankings.

I’ve wanted this forever. No putting that genie back in the bottle though.

Apparently, Sleeper has a setting (I'm not sure where) where you can set the list for everyone in the draft to be alphabetical.

I can't even figure out how to sort the list by position. Sleeper is super buggy for me. Kind of shocked people like it. I've used the app on my phone as well as the CPU desktop version and for the life of me I cannot sort players. FAAB process is clunky too.

To re-answer the OP, I am always surprised that people follow rankings of any kind instead of using their own judgement calls. So the number is always higher than I might expect. This industry is *full* of rankings and I've never understood why. (Because I don't follow them and I don't think others should either). As such the real number is probably dramatically bigger than I would guesstimate. Sticking with my original 20-29% though.

 

[barackdhouse]

In my mind, to follow rankings is to allow a bot to draft for you. Why even be involved?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Partly to make sure they're removed from Draft Dominator if it's not a Sleeper or MFL draft with live draft synch.

I don't see a dedicated SD thread in TSP so I'll ask here. I have one Sleeper and one NFL draft. Is there a way to do a test run to make sure the sync is working properly?

No, there's not a way to test prior as it only works on live drafts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

In my mind, to follow rankings is to allow a bot to draft for you. Why even be involved?

Yeah, I use the DD, but every pick I scan every list of players to see who I have higher than their rankings.

At several points in the draft I used my own rankings/preferences. Sometimes it came down to taking a player from an offense I prefer, like Chiefs & Lions > Bears & Seahawks, etc.

 

[barackdhouse]

In my mind, to follow rankings is to allow a bot to draft for you. Why even be involved?

Yeah, I use the DD, but every pick I scan every list of players to see who I have higher than their rankings.

At several points in the draft I used my own rankings/preferences. Sometimes it came down to taking a player from an offense I prefer, like Chiefs & Lions > Bears & Seahawks, etc.

yeah, and when I say "to follow" I mean to rely upon as per the OP. I love comparing my own tiers to that of the site I'm drafting on and looking for the ones I prefer just like you say. Or who looks like they might fall and become a big value. Some of the guys I really like are going in the 7th to 9th round on say FFPC, but much later on Underdog or ESPN, etc. Doing so much FFPC stuff like I do gives me an insight into the TE landscape because it is TE Premium, and I think that helps me on other sites that aren't TEP. Underdog is start 3 WR and I think that gives me an insight into the WR landscape in a way that FFPC doesn't because they only require starting 2 WR (even though you can start 4 with the two FLEX spots).

I look for those little value inflection points constantly so I most definitely "follow" rankings. I probably should have used a different word above but I know you understood.

 

[Ilov80s]

I think it's extremely high, even among smart players. It influences me because I might have 2 players I like but one is farther down the ADP player list on the app/site we are using so I will leave that player on the board hoping he falls. If they were right next to each other in the rankings, I might have made a different choice.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

yeah, and when I say "to follow" I mean to rely upon as per the OP. I love comparing my own tiers to that of the site I'm drafting on and looking for the ones I prefer just like you say. Or who looks like they might fall and become a big value. Some of the guys I really like are going in the 7th to 9th round on say FFPC, but much later on Underdog or ESPN, etc. Doing so much FFPC stuff like I do gives me an insight into the TE landscape because it is TE Premium, and I think that helps me on other sites that aren't TEP. Underdog is start 3 WR and I think that gives me an insight into the WR landscape in a way that FFPC doesn't because they only require starting 2 WR (even though you can start 4 with the two FLEX spots).

I look for those little value inflection points constantly so I most definitely "follow" rankings. I probably should have used a different word above but I know you understood.

Hard same. I started the practice thanks to Razzball - I’ve been a FBB guy longer than FF, and Razzball was the 1st I can remember to post a “taking advantage of the default rankings” column, where they listed the various sites (CBS, Yahoo!, ESPN, etc) and pointed out extreme values on each.

That proved to be the single most valuable tool I’d added to my virtual draft kit in years.

Didn’t really come in handy as much with MFL, as MFL includes rookie drafts in their ADP, so rookies are all listed preposterously high this time of year. But for my home league, I know several of the fellas are printing CBS draft sheets for their rankings list & I love combing over those to see who’s ranked too high or low.

 

[Scoresman]

@socrates @Chaka @Soulfly3 @Hu-Tang Clan

Thanks for voting. Can you elaborate on why you don't thing fantasy GMs follow the suggested rankings on the platforms?

I think there is a lot of information readily available. I don't believe Fantasy Managers typically rely on the League Website platform rankings, which are notoriously weak and out of date compared to other fantasy sites such as FBG.

I have a couple owners in my league who roll in to each draft with a fantasy football index magazine and when a sleeper player comes up to bid, you can sometimes hear them say "That guy's not in the magazine".

I think there is a significant percentage of players who play simply to have a good time at the draft and to follow players while watching nfl games each week. We are the minority who do a lot of preparation.

 

[barackdhouse]

yeah, and when I say "to follow" I mean to rely upon as per the OP. I love comparing my own tiers to that of the site I'm drafting on and looking for the ones I prefer just like you say. Or who looks like they might fall and become a big value. Some of the guys I really like are going in the 7th to 9th round on say FFPC, but much later on Underdog or ESPN, etc. Doing so much FFPC stuff like I do gives me an insight into the TE landscape because it is TE Premium, and I think that helps me on other sites that aren't TEP. Underdog is start 3 WR and I think that gives me an insight into the WR landscape in a way that FFPC doesn't because they only require starting 2 WR (even though you can start 4 with the two FLEX spots).

I look for those little value inflection points constantly so I most definitely "follow" rankings. I probably should have used a different word above but I know you understood.

Hard same. I started the practice thanks to Razzball - I’ve been a FBB guy longer than FF, and Razzball was the 1st I can remember to post a “taking advantage of the default rankings” column, where they listed the various sites (CBS, Yahoo!, ESPN, etc) and pointed out extreme values on each.

That proved to be the single most valuable tool I’d added to my virtual draft kit in years.

Didn’t really come in handy as much with MFL, as MFL includes rookie drafts in their ADP, so rookies are all listed preposterously high this time of year. But for my home league, I know several of the fellas are printing CBS draft sheets for their rankings list & I love combing over those to see who’s ranked too high or low.

My home league opponents are primarily ESPN rankings guys and have often come in with a magazine in hand* over the years. But the commish streamlined it and started printing out 8.5x11s of the ESPN rankings and handing them out during our live drafts. BTW, these live drafts are pure in the sense that there is no picklist other than what we bring with us. We're filling out a board on the wall and later inputting it into the site. These guys just typically use the ESPN list (while I roll in with my own 8.5 x 11 tiers that I took from my spreadsheet).

Our other home league auction draft is done on ESPN online and the pre-set auction values are *huge* factors in how we draft. And we get wild during the auctions but I think 100% of us would vote for making the picklist alphabetical and starting bids at $1 and up ($200 budget) with zero suggestions by the site.

 

[barackdhouse]

*still waiting for the FBG collectors edition magazine in the mail!!

 

[darksideofoz]

Several years ago I set the leagues I run to list players alphabetically and not have site rankings or ADP info available. About 60% of the people complained loudly.

 

[darksideofoz]

yeah, and when I say "to follow" I mean to rely upon as per the OP. I love comparing my own tiers to that of the site I'm drafting on and looking for the ones I prefer just like you say. Or who looks like they might fall and become a big value. Some of the guys I really like are going in the 7th to 9th round on say FFPC, but much later on Underdog or ESPN, etc. Doing so much FFPC stuff like I do gives me an insight into the TE landscape because it is TE Premium, and I think that helps me on other sites that aren't TEP. Underdog is start 3 WR and I think that gives me an insight into the WR landscape in a way that FFPC doesn't because they only require starting 2 WR (even though you can start 4 with the two FLEX spots).

I look for those little value inflection points constantly so I most definitely "follow" rankings. I probably should have used a different word above but I know you understood.

Hard same. I started the practice thanks to Razzball - I’ve been a FBB guy longer than FF, and Razzball was the 1st I can remember to post a “taking advantage of the default rankings” column, where they listed the various sites (CBS, Yahoo!, ESPN, etc) and pointed out extreme values on each.

That proved to be the single most valuable tool I’d added to my virtual draft kit in years.

Didn’t really come in handy as much with MFL, as MFL includes rookie drafts in their ADP, so rookies are all listed preposterously high this time of year. But for my home league, I know several of the fellas are printing CBS draft sheets for their rankings list & I love combing over those to see who’s ranked too high or low.

You can filter the adp on mfl to not include rookie only drafts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

You can filter the adp on mfl to not include rookie only drafts.

Yeah, there are lots of ways to customize it. I’m just talking about the default (e.g. what the mouth-breathing unwashed masses are using)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We're filling out a board on the wall and later inputting it into the site. These guys just typically use the ESPN list (while I roll in with my own 8.5 x 11 tiers that I took from my spreadsheet).

That’s how my home league is run.

I do allow laptops. I should charge them for WiFi access.


For years I had a color coded binder with individual lists of player names & a master list of my rankings.

Now I just use the DD out of laziness, but I do adjust the rankings and create short lists between picks.

 

[Zow]

I look at it... but I do not rely on it ... I like to gauge by the draft process who is heavily relying on it and take advantage of value.

Think this is the answer. There's like a bell curve of people who rely on platform rankings. It's just the people on one side are relying on it for guidance, while the other side are using other owners reliance on it as an advantage.

I think it also comes into play more for a lot of people by the mid and late rounds. Feels like a lot of people I play with will have their own rankings the go by for the first 7-8 rounds. But by the last third of the draft or so, they are just scrolling through the platform rankings looking for names they recognize.

The bold matches my anecdotal experience as well. In other words, I think like than 25% actually use the site rankings for most of the draft but like 75% rely on it in later rounds when their personal lists have been exhausted.

I personally use the draft dominator so...

 

[Zow]

@socrates @Chaka @Soulfly3 @Hu-Tang Clan

Thanks for voting. Can you elaborate on why you don't thing fantasy GMs follow the suggested rankings on the platforms?

I think there is a lot of information readily available. I don't believe Fantasy Managers typically rely on the League Website platform rankings, which are notoriously weak and out of date compared to other fantasy sites such as FBG.

I have a couple owners in my league who roll in to each draft with a fantasy football index magazine and when a sleeper player comes up to bid, you can sometimes hear them say "That guy's not in the magazine".

I think there is a significant percentage of players who play simply to have a good time at the draft and to follow players while watching nfl games each week. We are the minority who do a lot of preparation.

Yep. As I've gotten older a lot of people I know stay in these leagues to stay involved with a lot of us. This actually hit home with me recently when the league I started thirty years ago when I was 12 just folded. I was bummed (mainly because it was a two player keeper league and I have Chase and Barkley) but I'm in like 9 leagues so not a huge deal for me.

To my surprise, my dad - who hasn't watched a game in a long time because his wife and him are usually outdoors on Sunday or she doesn't care for it - voiced disappointment and requested he get an opening in another one of my leagues. I'm pretty sure this is the only league my dad ever joined and he only ever won it once because he just doesn't pay the same attention as us and I always figured he did it as a routine for fun and didn't care much. When I stated my genuine surprise that he wanted in another league he said, "this is about the only thing you and I do together anymore and I don't want to lose that. I also had so much fun that one time I won!"

That hit home for me and I happily got him into another one of my leagues. Made me realize that this hobby/sport is viewed differently by those that play as, for some, it's not about winning but instead the social aspect of the game.

*Cue "Cats in the cradle and the silver spoon..."

 

[Joe Bryant]

Made me realize that this hobby/sport is viewed differently by those that play.

Agreed. There's a wide range.

That's part of what had me curious in the other thread about playing fantasy football and people saying they didn't have enough time. It's interesting as people see it differently.

 

[efactor]

We're filling out a board on the wall and later inputting it into the site. These guys just typically use the ESPN list (while I roll in with my own 8.5 x 11 tiers that I took from my spreadsheet).

That’s how my home league is run.

I do allow laptops. I should charge them for WiFi access.


For years I had a color coded binder with individual lists of player names & a master list of my rankings.

Now I just use the DD out of laziness, but I do adjust the rankings and create short lists between picks.

Yeah, I roll old school in our 25 year old redraft league too. I have my rankings and mark off the players as picked. Just enjoy doing it that way. Probably 10 of the 14 players draft off the app and 5-6 of those are usually lost by round 5. Kind of funny. We do put the picks up on the big screen vs using the CBS sheet so that the ones that are lost can walk up and see who is still on the board. I just shake my head and make fun of them as I sip some good tequila. It's a fun league but definitely not full of "sharks".

When I draft on-line, I definitely don't draft by the site's listed ADPs, especially FFPC. I think they are way off in some instances, which can work to your advantage. For instance, JSN is about 5 spots ahead of Nico Collins, which I find off. Would much rather have Nico. But that's me.

 

[Soulfly3]

@socrates @Chaka @Soulfly3 @Hu-Tang Clan

Thanks for voting. Can you elaborate on why you don't thing fantasy GMs follow the suggested rankings on the platforms?

My 20+yr league is too good and slick to use the rankings... Perhaps as it tails to the much later rounds they look at it more, but for the first 2/3 there is little/no way any of us care about the rankings provided by a website. I usually look when it's my turn just to see how far off the guy I'm targetting is from the top, and laugh.