BoltBacker
Footballguy
It's a great deal at Adorama right now for $298...
http://www.adorama.com/ISONEX3NLW.html?utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=cj_227502
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BoltBacker
Footballguy
Sony NEX, Canon M, Samsung NX... they are all great deals if you get a camera and lens for $300. They are still good deals at ~$400 but you can probably get a better deal if you won't miss an important event by waiting. Those all have pretty big sensors in a small package for a reasonable price.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I like the NEX body but the big lenses negate the big sensor in a small package. If you are an alpha owner then NEX i the way to go otherwise I think M43 is the place for mirrorless
BoltBacker
Footballguy
That's why I said if you plan on shooting mostly telephoto then a dSLR is a better idea because the telephoto lenses are so big it doesn't make sense to have a small camera on mid to large sized lens.
I don't think the Sony 16mm/2.8, 16-50mm, or the Sigma 30mm/2.8 are big lenses. Truthfully, almost nobody needs a full 16mp image so you can crop an image quite a bit from those small lenses for a little extra reach.
KCitons
Footballguy
Got the go ahead from my wife to buy a new DSLR. Currently have a Nikon D60 that is about 6-7 years old and the 18-55mm, 35mm 1.8, older 50mm pancake, and a Sigma 18-200mm. So, I am going to stay with Nikon. I had been wanting the D5100 since it's release. But am no considering the D5200. Anyone own either of these? Have any suggestions?
On The Rocks
Footballguy
Which one?otello said:
I don't have the 1.2
But I have the 1.8
otello
Footballguy
On The Rocks
Footballguy
Yeah - about a $1600 price difference.
The 1.8 is nice. Zero complaints drom me. Nice compliment to the 50mm 1.4
Brony
Footballguy
I have some $ to upgrade my equipment and debating whether to go Canon full frame (the 6D) or scrap my whole inventory of Canon equipment and start over with Sony.
If I didn't have a few Canon lenses and a Speedlite, this would be easy and I'd start with Sony. I prefer the electronic viewfinder and really like how quickly things focus with the Sony. OTOH, I hate the process of selling old equipment but don't want to just throw out several hundred $ of good Canon stuff.
Anyone else switch to mirrorless platform? Pros/cons?
If I didn't have a few Canon lenses and a Speedlite, this would be easy and I'd start with Sony. I prefer the electronic viewfinder and really like how quickly things focus with the Sony. OTOH, I hate the process of selling old equipment but don't want to just throw out several hundred $ of good Canon stuff.
Anyone else switch to mirrorless platform? Pros/cons?
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I'm in the same boat.
Went Canon years ago because entry price was so reasonable. Only bought EF lenses because I had planned to buy a full frame camera at some point. I'm pretty much shocked at how Sony has been running circles around Canon for the past two years. If I didn't own any photo equipment right now I'd definitely buy the Sony a7R. The NEX-7 makes the Canon M look like a joke and the a7R beats the 6D badly now that the firmware for the a7R has been updated to fix some minor issues. I might have already made the switch if Sony had some nice pancake primes for the a7R. I'm in wait-and-see if the Canon cameras can catch up to the Sony cameras or the Sony lenses can catch up to the Canon lenses. So right now neither one of them is getting any of my business.
I think the pros/cons list is pretty easy.
PRO
- size/weight, my Samsung NX1000 is about 1/2 pound and fits in a jacket pocket with the tiny 16mm/F2.4 lens on it. I shopped for a fast wide angle prime for more than a year before I decided the Samsung camera+lens was much cheaper than the equivalent Canon lens alone. I never leave home without the Samsung while my Canon equipment only comes out when I'm taking portraits or doing telephoto. Once you switch to small/light equipment with the same quality sensor it makes it really difficult to lugging around big equipment again.
CON
- telephoto, most of my telephoto shots are taken outside where it really helps to have a good view finder and the glare from the screen of my mirrorless on a sunny day is as bad a camera phone. Also, looking through a traditional viewfinder and holding a bigger camera can be an advantage when trying to hold a camera steady during telephoto work. Lastly, there aren't many mirrorless telephoto lenses and even when there are the size of the lens negates the advantages of the small body.
- lens selection, not everyone needs a lot of lenses but if you have a Canikon rig you can get ANY lens for ANY situation. Same goes for other accessories as well, not just lenses.
BTW, I completely agree with regard to used equipment. I with there was a reputable site to swap photo equipment instead of the used-car-sales approach we have today where someone will buy from you for pennies on the dollar and then sell for almost full price. I know there is ebay but I know too many people with at least one horror story and I absolutely hate paypal.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Many people consider it the best value in photography. The 85mm/F1.8 and 28mm/F1.8 are terrific lenses, a nice compliment to one another, and have both been around forever so you can find good deals on them.
I'm looking into getting a new camera for my wife. We're both beginers at this but want to get better at it.
Is this a good deal? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/canon-eos-rebel-sl1-dslr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-is-stm-lens-ef-s-55/263053347.html?scid=em_20140327_Daily&adid=17654
I'd like to stick with Canon since that's what we have for a point and click and want to stay with something familiar.
Thanks.
Is this a good deal? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/canon-eos-rebel-sl1-dslr-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-is-stm-lens-ef-s-55/263053347.html?scid=em_20140327_Daily&adid=17654
I'd like to stick with Canon since that's what we have for a point and click and want to stay with something familiar.
Thanks.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
It's not a bad deal, but there are a couple others you might consider....
If you like the idea of the slightly smaller SL1, don't mind dealing with rebates, and are looking to pull the trigger before March 31st this is a better deal @$538...
http://slickdeals.net/f/6806765-canon-eos-rebel-sl1-18mp-dslr-touchscreen-camera-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-stm-lens-canon-ef-75-300mm-f-4-5-6-iii-lens-pro-100-printer-paper-538-fs-ar
"Bundle includes:
- Canon EOS Rebel SL1 18MP DSLR Touchscreen Camera
- Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Lens
- Canon EF 75-300mm F/4-5.6 III Lens
- Pixma Pro-100 Printer & photo paper
- Vivitar 3-Piece UV/CPL/ND8 58mm Filter Kit
... or if you are just looking to get your feet wet in dSLR before investing a lot of money this is also a pretty good deal on an older T3 with kit lens for $288 refurbished directly from Canon.....
http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-rebel-t3-black-ef-s-18-55mm-is-ii-lens-kit-refurbished
... lastly, if you just want a smoking deal on a dSLR and want a lot of megapixels even if it isn't Canon this deal on a Nikon 3200 w/kit lens has 24mp and comes with Adobe Lightroom 5 for $379....
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=EMNKD3200KRBLR5&ref=cj
The software is so important in digital photography and is often overlooked. Lightroom 5 is one of the best packages for the consumer market and many pros use it. In addition there are tons of free tutorials on how to get the best out of it on youtube.
Keep in mind that the telephoto zooms in both your bundle and my bundle are budget equipment that can be found from time to time for just over $100 if you watch the sales closely. For a lot of people if they are going to carry two lenses they would be better off in carrying a versatile superzoom and a very sharp prime imo. The superzoom will be roughly the quality of the two lenses in these kits while the prime lens will be considerably sharper and more useful in either low light situations or when you want to create bokeh when taking portraits.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
wilked
Footballguy
Canon t4i
http://southcoast.craigslist.org/pho/4396514479.html
Check exposure count, of course. I prefer to buy used stuff if it includes the original box, implies a higher standard of ownership. Do you have any lenses? Do you care about video?
http://southcoast.craigslist.org/pho/4396514479.html
Check exposure count, of course. I prefer to buy used stuff if it includes the original box, implies a higher standard of ownership. Do you have any lenses? Do you care about video?
wilked
Footballguy
Well, if you don't care about the video you might consider the T2i as well. The T3i is stuck in the middle, I wouldn't go for it. I would look for both, get the T2i over the T4i if you can save hundreds or it comes packaged with nice lenses
As an example, this is a nice starter package
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ele/4440739946.html
As an example, this is a nice starter package
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ele/4440739946.html
wilked
Footballguy
Is the $300 camera package I linked to above out of your budget?
I wouldn't go below T2i personally. I think any savings beyond that are not worth it relative to image quality.
Brony
Footballguy
Fwiw - I upgraded to the 6D and ditched the T3i. Here's my experience:
No doubt,the 6d is a better camera than the t3i. In combo, with the 24-105 lens that came with it, I feel like I upgraded from a Mustang to a Porsche.most of the upgrade is in the act of taking pictures ... The focus is much faster, the response is much faster, it's bad ### in that respect. In terms of image quality, it's a ok step up from the T3, but not an holy crap improvement. There are definitely pictures in dark settings now that were not possible before, but for the 95% of pictures taken with decent light, it's a nice step up,but not a monumental difference. I'd be hard pressed to look at an image and know which camera it was taken with. Whereas, some lenses, I can do that.
I can understand people's comments about not going back to crop after doing full frame, but it is akin to luxury cars, where you don't "need" the big bad camera, but damn if it doesn't feel awesome while you have it.
No doubt,the 6d is a better camera than the t3i. In combo, with the 24-105 lens that came with it, I feel like I upgraded from a Mustang to a Porsche.most of the upgrade is in the act of taking pictures ... The focus is much faster, the response is much faster, it's bad ### in that respect. In terms of image quality, it's a ok step up from the T3, but not an holy crap improvement. There are definitely pictures in dark settings now that were not possible before, but for the 95% of pictures taken with decent light, it's a nice step up,but not a monumental difference. I'd be hard pressed to look at an image and know which camera it was taken with. Whereas, some lenses, I can do that.
I can understand people's comments about not going back to crop after doing full frame, but it is akin to luxury cars, where you don't "need" the big bad camera, but damn if it doesn't feel awesome while you have it.
Looking to upgrade from my T2i that feels ancient and unworthy.
My hobby has mainly hit the astrophotography level and the T2i can't keep up with what I want it to do.
Looking for a middle of the pack dSLR for around $1k (body only). Used or new, doesn't matter.
Any recommendations on cams with high ISO/low noise for nighttime shots? I'm pretty much going in circles, D5300/D7100/70D/6D/etc....
My hobby has mainly hit the astrophotography level and the T2i can't keep up with what I want it to do.
Looking for a middle of the pack dSLR for around $1k (body only). Used or new, doesn't matter.
Any recommendations on cams with high ISO/low noise for nighttime shots? I'm pretty much going in circles, D5300/D7100/70D/6D/etc....
chet
Footballguy
Maybe check out a Canon 5D MkII.
I think they should be around $1200. Check out http://photography-on-the.net and www.fredmiranda.com for used deals. They come up somewhat frequently.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
This is the exact situation I'm in and I'm considering a used 5D MkII as well. Good recommendation.
Expensive part is going to be all the lenses. Those T2i crop lenses aren't really going to work on a FF camera.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I've got the 5DMII - I'd recommend it.
I thought it was discontinued through major retailers however and I'd be surprised to see it priced so low, but if it is available new at that price, jump all over it.
I'm not one that would recommend buying a camera body second hand.
The 6D and 7D are nice also - but sound like they may be a bit over your budget once you get into lens purchases.
My camera buying history went like this:
T3i --> 60D --> 5DMII
The 60D was a nice step up for me from the T3i at that time before I was ready to commit to the 5D full frame camera and begin investing in "L" series Canon lenses.
With the 60D you will be able to use all of the lenses you use currently and gives you a few more features (including the BULB feature - that I don't think is on the T2i).
There are a few great affordable Canon options without breaking the bank on full frame if your budget doesn't allow for it.
Someone with a Nikon background could probably provide a few options from their camp as well.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
Do any of you guys with an iPhone 6 know if the camera feature on this thing has any sort of shutter speed option or shutter speed app available?
I've been holding onto my 4s only because I don't think it's worth getting rid of, but I've been using my phone for a camera for some minor photo projects lately and the camera on the 4s blows.
I've been holding onto my 4s only because I don't think it's worth getting rid of, but I've been using my phone for a camera for some minor photo projects lately and the camera on the 4s blows.
PatriotJohn
Footballguy
Does anyone have the Sigma 150-500mm zoom lens? Looking at getting one for the wife and wanted to see if anyone had personal experience. She would prefer the Tamron 200-600mm but she will be very content with the 500 for what she wants to do (wildlife, sports). TIA
Ray Karpis
Footballguy
Wife still shoots with the D3100...just bought her the 50mm f/1.8 prime lens for her birthday.
That's all.
That's all.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
I don't but I a photog friend that does and thinks it's great.
Another contact has the tamron 200-600 and says they sometimes struggle with the low light situations.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
KCitons
Footballguy
I think what you're looking for is a fixed focus camera. I had Nokia phone, where the camera worked this way. There was no half press of the button to focus. My wife was still using it up until Christmas because it was easy to use. Not sure if they make point and shoot cameras with fixed focus lens.leftcoastguy7 said:
BoltBacker
Footballguy
The good news is there is a perfect type of camera to fit your needs, the Lytro camera. The bad news is there are only two options as far as I know. The very expensive version that would probably be the best choice for most people with kids....leftcoastguy7 said:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1046808&Q=&is=REG&A=details
.... and the inexpensive, almost toy version of a Lytro camera.....
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/lytro-compact-camera-electric-blue-1-5-touchscreen-lcd-8x-optical-zoom/273143179.html?sellerid=37880459&sclid=pla_google_VooduBlu&adid=29963&gclid=CNm15L7EtcMCFSPJtAodVHMAEA
Almost any camera is going to require you to prefocus to get sharp photos but with the Lytro you POSTfocus which I think will eventually be revolutionary in photography once it trickles down to the big camera makers(including cell phones). But it's not just the post-focusing "gimmick" that makes it so great for shots of kids but also the F2 lenses. Those lenses help with subjects that are often moving as well as shooting handheld because the use of a tripod would be overly troublesome. In a sea of me-too cameras in the market the Lytro cameras are really different and innovative.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I am thinking about buying my wife a Sony A6000 camera for her birthday. The one I am looking at comes with a 16-50 lens for $695.00. We have purchased pretty much everything Sony in the
past and she has several point and shoots by them that she has liked over the years. So this is going to be a whole new world for her. I have to admit I am a complete novice when it comes to buying higher end cameras--is this an okay camera to buy?
My wife loves birds and she has always wanted to go on hikes and take pics--so what other lens should I buy with this as far as telephoto lens?
She wanted to wait a couple years to get something nicer, but I know we have several big events coming in the near future that it would be great for her to have a newer camera for.
past and she has several point and shoots by them that she has liked over the years. So this is going to be a whole new world for her. I have to admit I am a complete novice when it comes to buying higher end cameras--is this an okay camera to buy?
My wife loves birds and she has always wanted to go on hikes and take pics--so what other lens should I buy with this as far as telephoto lens?
She wanted to wait a couple years to get something nicer, but I know we have several big events coming in the near future that it would be great for her to have a newer camera for.
cstu
Footballguy
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
So thoughts on the Sony camera a couple posts up....
cstu
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I am a big fan of both Sony cameras and mirrorless so I don't think there is anything wrong with the A6000. You may want to look at this $448 deal though because it's pretty incredible and will give your wife a better idea of what "nicer" camera she wants in the future.....
- Sony Alpha SLT-A58K DSLR Camera w/ 18-55mm & 55-200mm Lenses
- Adobe Lightroom 5
- $50 Visa Gift Card
- 16GB Sony Class 10 SDHC Memory Card
Those are kit lenses but lightroom 5 is a fabulous freebie. I would probably use the free $50 Visa card to purchase an extra battery, extra memory card, maybe a camera bag or monopod if you are frugal. Everything around the camera besides the camera body really make a huge difference in your final images.
I love the size of mirrorless and carry mine around more than my dSLR but keep in mind if you are going to put anything other than a pancake lens on it(like the telephoto lenses your wife will need for birding) it kind of negates the size advantage and you will need to carry it in a bag. She may even find that down the road she wants to invest in nice lenses instead of nicer camera bodies. Those are both very nice camera bodies.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I have a Samsung NX1000 which is a little older and not quite as nice as the NX500 but I love it. I bought it with a 16mm/F2.4 pancake lens because the both the camera and the lens were cheaper than getting a quality wide angle prime for my dSLR at the time. Was really looking for something to take indoors that could fit in a jacket pocket but still had a fast enough lens and big enough sensor to get those low light indoor shots and it does that nicely. Also great for landscape photography. Really worked well for the purposes that I was targeting.
If you are thinking more along the lines of general photography though I might keep an eye out for an incredible deal on the Canon M with the 22mm/F2.0 lens. Last summer there was a deal on that combo for $250 and they recently announced the Canon M3 to replace it so I would guess there will be deals on the M in the near future. The M got some shaky reviews on it's launch but firmware fixed a lazy autofucus so as long as you have the latest firmware I think it's not a bad little camera. If you plan on having several lenses you can get an adapter to use EF and EF-S lenses. The 50mm/F1.8 is small and light and can be found for ~$80(refurb) if you are patient. Those work out to 35mm and 80mm equivalents for just over $300. Canon also has a small/fast/inexpensiveish mid-telephoto 135mm/F2.8 which is the equivelant of 216mm. They don't make that lens anymore though so you would need to look for a good copy on KEH/eBay/BnH/etc. That entire package will probably cost you less than the NX500 if you can shop patiently to assemble it.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Right now a refurb NX1000 with 20-50mm is $190 with Prime Shipping....
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NX1000-Digital-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00TZ9UJRQ/?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=d6916ed571994ebfbb97a21797720eb3
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Anybody have the Nikon 18-300 that came out last year? http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-18-300mm-3-5-6-3G-AF-S-Nikkor/dp/B00JKUPRF4/
If so, worth the $900? Thinking of getting this for an upcoming trip to Alaska. I've got an 18-55 and 55-200 for zoom. This one seems to have good reviews, and thinking it would be nice not to have to switch lenses between glaciers/wildlife. Reviews indicate relatively light too.
ETA: Relatedly, for anyone who has done an Alaskan cruise, am I right that having a zoom with a good range is the most critical lens to have? I prefer a fixed lens, but my assumption is that flexibility will be more important.
If so, worth the $900? Thinking of getting this for an upcoming trip to Alaska. I've got an 18-55 and 55-200 for zoom. This one seems to have good reviews, and thinking it would be nice not to have to switch lenses between glaciers/wildlife. Reviews indicate relatively light too.
ETA: Relatedly, for anyone who has done an Alaskan cruise, am I right that having a zoom with a good range is the most critical lens to have? I prefer a fixed lens, but my assumption is that flexibility will be more important.
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I wouldn't say trust more, but just thought I'd check to see for another data point before pulling trigger on a $900 investment. I thought people have asked for opinions about lenses in here fairly frequently.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
That is fair. I was close to pulling the trigger on the lens based on reading Amazon and Rockwell, and probably will still do so. All of the good camera stores by me have closed down, so not a good place to check it out in advance.
SecondCity34
Footballguy
I bought almost the exact same lens (Nikon 18-300 3.5-5.6G-AF-S) about 3-4 weeks ago. I have used it only a few times, but so far, I am a fan. It is noticeably heavier than the 55-300, but I will take that trade-off versus having to change lenses periodically. I bought it mainly for the latter reason; I have missed countless photos due to not having the correct lens on the body, it seems.
The pictures themselves (again, only a limited amount so far) look good, both at the long end and short end of the lens. There really is no "lens creep" so far with this lens either.
YMMV. I am really only a vacation/leisure photographer, so if you're looking for a recommendation from someone with a lot of photo experience, that's not me.
Good luck.
