DYNASTY: 2012 Top college prospects (2 Viewers)

[EBF]

Blackmon is in the league of Green and Jones. Should grade much higher than Crabtree and Bryant

He will be graded about the same as Crabtree was entering the draft. Like Crabtree, and unlike the other receivers you mentioned Blackmon doesn't have elite physical tools. I think the only way he gets in the top 5 or 6 picks is if he has a very similar season to last year (1750 yards and 20 TDs) he will go somewhere in the 8-10 range. I'm not saying I don't like him (he reminds he of Hakeem Nicks), I see Alshon Jeffery going a few picks ahead of him. He has the physical tools of Calvin Johnson, also 6'6 230, and has excellent ball skills and very impressive film, and I don't believe he has any charecter concerns. Blackmon is 6'0 215 and is not an elite athlete. When draft day comes that is not the kind of WR that goes in the top 5, even if he did have crazy stats.

I disagree with this. Being a great athlete is not simply a matter of height and stopwatch speed. I think Blackmon is a very good athlete, even by NFL WR prospect standards. He reminds me of Dez Bryant. Not quite as freakishly muscular, but pretty comparable in terms of build and style. A tall-ish WR with very good strength, coordination, and RAC skills. He has everything you would want in a #1 NFL WR. I think he's much more fluid than Jeffery, whose only advantage over Blackmon is height.

I think Blackmon and Richardson are the best skill prospects in the draft at this juncture. Jeffery is great when the ball is in the air, but I'm not that impressed with his movement. I still have him ranked as a top 3 prospect in the draft, but I have him at the back of that trio, rather than the front. Richardson is a freak and Blackmon was a one man army last year. Simply couldn't be stopped by anyone (100+ yards in every game) and certainly looks the part on tape. I'd take him with the 1.02 rookie pick today, and it's tough for me to envision him slipping out of the top 3-4 rookie draft picks come April. You usually only see a few of these teflon prospects per draft.

 

[EBF]

Now maybe I'l be able to grab Davis in the late first of rookie drafts.

Does this make it more likely he doesn't come out in 2012. I loaded up on 2012 picks.

Third time he's suffered a serious leg injury in 4 years

Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and serious injuries can happen to any player, but he does have a bit of that Darren McFadden slender upright runner build. Part of the reason why I favor backs like Michael Dyer and Dion Lewis is because I think the low center of gravity and stocky frame is the most durable.

It's still unfortunate to see a promising player get hurt. I wouldn't touch Davis with a top 6 rookie/dev pick now. It's likely a moot point, as he'll probably return to Arkansas and enter the 2013 or 2014 draft instead. I think we can probably forget about him for 12 months.

 

[Faust]

Alshon Jeffery, Michael Floyd best of wide receiver class

Twenty years ago the rule in the NFL was that teams must be able to run the ball and control the clock to win, and along with that theory, teams generally tried to set up their passing attack with a strong rushing game. However, as the NFL has moved from a rushing league to a passing league, not only has the value of the quarterback drastically increased, but receivers have become vital to a team’s success.

Here's a look at the top five receivers entering the 2011 college football season.

1. Alshon Jeffery, junior, South Carolina

Jeffery (6-4, 230) is the rare receiver with excellent size and elite athleticism, and reminds us a ton of former Georgia star A.J. Green. For a tall receiver, he moves with surprising quickness at the snap, accelerates to full speed in a flash and has the speed to get separation deep down the field. He has outstanding hands/ball-skills and combined with his body control, coordination and concentration, he has consistently made highlight catches with remarkable ease. He is quick getting started up the field after the catch and is a dangerous runner after the catch as he has the size and strength to break tackles and the speed to out-run defenders to score long touchdowns. We have little doubt that if Jeffery comes out early for the 2012 draft he will be a top-10 pick. Projection: First-round pick.

2. Michael Floyd, senior, Notre Dame

Floyd (6-3, 229) is an elite receiver prospect based on his on field play, but he is going to have to prove that his off-field issues (three alcohol-related incidents since 2008) are a thing of the past if he hopes to be drafted high. He has the height, long arms and excellent hands to make tough catches with a defender draped all over him. He has proven to be a highly productive red-zone receiver who can win jump ball battles consistently and can make the tough “fade” route catch. He is not a quick twitch or explosive athlete who explodes off the line or out of his cuts, which hinders his ability to get separation on deep routes and to out-run defenders to score long touchdowns. He is much more of a smooth and fluid athlete who has good balance and body control, which he shows off by consistently running sharp and precise routes. While he has made some bad decisions off the field, on the field he consistently displays smarts and field awareness to set-up defenders and to find open spots versus coverage. Projection: First-round pick.

3. Justin Blackmon, junior, Oklahoma State

Blackmon (6-1, 215) has been an impact receiver since he arrived at Oklahoma State and helped to fill the shoes of Dez Bryant. While he looks huge (6’3+) on film, he is not that big. He has good size at over 6’0 and is solidly build for his size, which gives him the strength to create a little space when he pushes off and to run through arm/grab tackles to gain yards running after the catch. Blackmon is a raw talent who has been a highly productive receiver despite still needing a lot of work on his routes as he tends to round off cuts and doesn’t sell cornerbacks consistently. There is little doubt he has enough athleticism to start in the NFL, he lacks the explosive burst out of his cuts to get separation from tight man-to-man coverage in the NFL, which will hinder his big play down field ability. He has the hands and ball skills to make tough catches look routine, but he has a tendency to lose his focus at times, which leads to him fighting the ball and dropping some passes he should easily catch. Projection: First-round pick.

4. Ryan Broyles, senior, Oklahoma

Broyles (5-10, 187) is a tremendously quick and agile receiver who jumped off the film in 2010 with his ability to make big plays anytime he got the ball in the open field. He has the combination of excellent foot quicks, top-level agility and an explosive burst to get off the ball fast and is able to either get separation from a cornerback who tries to turn and run with him or can close cushion fast on a cornerback in “off” coverage. He runs very sharp routes and his explosive burst out of his cuts helps him to get separation from coverage easily. He is natural plucking the ball with his hands, gets it tucked away quickly, starts up field fast and is an elusive and dangerous runner after the catch. Not only is Broyles a very good receiver, but he is a big-play punt returner. Broyles is not a big receiver and cannot break tackles consistently. Additionally, he is a fast receiver who can easily get separation from cornerbacks in coverage, but will not be able to just run away from defenses to score long touchdowns as easily in the NFL. Projection: Second-round pick.



5. Marquis Maze, senior, Alabama

Maze (5-8, 192) is a tremendously explosive receiver and returner who has been an impact playmaker for Alabama throughout his career. He is not just a quick off-the-ball short receiver, but he has the elite explosiveness and top-end playing speed to take plays the distance whenever he gets a crease (both running after the catch and as a punt returner). He shows excellent focus running outstanding routes, maintains indistinguishable stem until break point and is able to get a cornerback to turn the wrong way so that he gets easy separation versus man-to-man coverage. He has quick feet and the agility to change directions and this helps him to be an elusive runner who can easily make tacklers miss. While he lacks good height, he has good strength for his size to run through hits and attempted grab tackles to gain yards after contact. Maze’s versatility to be productive lining up as an outside receiver, slot receiver and on return punts will enable him to become a productive NFL receiver/returner despite his lack of height. Projection: Third-round pick.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Here are the other BYB dev drafts for anyone who's interested. Bear in mind that players like Floyd and Luck weren't available because they were already picked last year.BYB 1 (2012 eligible players only)13. Juron Criner, WRBYB 2 (2012 only)1. Alshon Jeffery, WR2. Trent Richardson, RB3. Justin Blackmon, WR4. Knile Davis, RB5. Ryan Broyles, WR6. David Wilson, RB7. Jeff Fuller, WR8. Rueben Randle, WR9. Chris Polk, RB10. Cyrus Gray, RB11. Edwin Baker, RB12. Bryce Brown, RB13. Mohamed Sanu, WR14. Vick Ballard, RB BYB 4 (2012 + 2013; Richardson, Luck, and Floyd already picked)11. Juron Criner, WR

I'm surprised at how late Criner went in those drafts (and he wasn't even drafted in one of them); at this point the only prospects I'd rank ahead of him are Richardson, Blackmon, Jeffrey, and Floyd, but I wouldn't say he's too far off that bunch either. His size, speed, and ball skills are all superb, and his production last year was outstanding; not sure what else one would want. One thing that kinda sticks out about him is he has a tendency to round off his routes making it easier for CBs to get on him quicker, but that's somewhat of a common occurrence in the NCAA and shouldn't be too difficult to fix.

 

[EBF]

He's a great college player. I have mixed feelings about his pro prospects. He's tall, coordinated, and productive. On the other hand, there's nothing there athletically that really makes you think "wow," so I'm not totally sold that he'll be an effective #1 in the NFL.

 

[gump]

He's a 2013 WR prospect, but have any of you looked at Duron Carter / WR / Alabama yet?

He had a decent freshman year at Ohio State, then got into academic trouble.

Transferred to JUCO....had a good year....and has just transferred to Alabama.

He apparently grew a few inches since his OSU days...and now checks in at 6'5", 210 pounds.

Speed is not his strength (not surprising)...but his hands, route running, and downfield blocking are reported to be.

Obviously a huge advantage being coached daily by his father....has also reportedly worked pretty hard in the offseason.

I think he fits in at UA perfectly....they don't need him to be a deep threat, but a big, possession receiver and redzone target.

Interested to hear if he's on anyone's radar at all.

 

[jurb26]

He's a 2013 WR prospect, but have any of you looked at Duron Carter / WR / Alabama yet?

He had a decent freshman year at Ohio State, then got into academic trouble.

Transferred to JUCO....had a good year....and has just transferred to Alabama.

He apparently grew a few inches since his OSU days...and now checks in at 6'5", 210 pounds.

Speed is not his strength (not surprising)...but his hands, route running, and downfield blocking are reported to be.

Obviously a huge advantage being coached daily by his father....has also reportedly worked pretty hard in the offseason.

I think he fits in at UA perfectly....they don't need him to be a deep threat, but a big, possession receiver and redzone target.

Interested to hear if he's on anyone's radar at all.

6'5"? Wow, I thought he was only about 6'2" when he was at OSU. That's a big jump up. As of now he's not on my radar, maybe I'll put him back on it though. I wasn't impressed with him when he was at OSU. Looked too slow and not athletic enough to make a difference. Maybe he's gotten better since then. I can't believe he's grown that much.

 

[eakfootball]

He's a great college player. I have mixed feelings about his pro prospects. He's tall, coordinated, and productive. On the other hand, there's nothing there athletically that really makes you think "wow," so I'm not totally sold that he'll be an effective #1 in the NFL.

Is this Blackmon?

 

[Faust]

He's a great college player. I have mixed feelings about his pro prospects. He's tall, coordinated, and productive. On the other hand, there's nothing there athletically that really makes you think "wow," so I'm not totally sold that he'll be an effective #1 in the NFL.

Is this Blackmon?

I think it was in reference to Juron Criner

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

He's a great college player. I have mixed feelings about his pro prospects. He's tall, coordinated, and productive. On the other hand, there's nothing there athletically that really makes you think "wow," so I'm not totally sold that he'll be an effective #1 in the NFL.

Not sure what to make of Criner's athleticism. On tape it doesn't look elite. But he was a highly touted basketball player which is impressive. Can any locals chime in on his health, I remember there being concerns that he would miss this season due to injury.

 

[EBF]

He's a great college player. I have mixed feelings about his pro prospects. He's tall, coordinated, and productive. On the other hand, there's nothing there athletically that really makes you think "wow," so I'm not totally sold that he'll be an effective #1 in the NFL.

Not sure what to make of Criner's athleticism. On tape it doesn't look elite. But he was a highly touted basketball player which is impressive. Can any locals chime in on his health, I remember there being concerns that he would miss this season due to injury.

Well he's tall and very coordinated when it comes to skying for the jump ball, so you can certainly see why he might have been good at basketball. I think he has the pure receiving skills that you want (i.e. he's a productive player who makes plays and reliably catches the ball). My questions on him have more to do with separation/YAC. He's tall, but not very bulky, so he won't be bossing DBs ala Brandon Marshall or Anquan Boldin. He's reasonably fast, but not a burner, so he won't be blazing by corners and safeties on deep routes. He doesn't look very elusive in the open field. He's more of a catch-and-fall receiver than a guy who figures to be a YAC machine at the NFL level (though he does have SOME ability in this department, as evidenced by Arizona's willingness to get the ball in his hands on reverses). That profile sounds a lot like Sidney Rice, but Sid has a certain explosive springiness to his game that I haven't seen from Criner. At this point in time I'd say Criner is probably a mid-late second round talent. I just don't quite see the special athletic qualities of a first round pick. I'll try to watch him a bit this season to see if he can change my mind. The Pac-12 WRs that have me the most intrigued right now are younger guys. Paul Richardson at Colorado and Keenan Allen at Cal (both 2013 eligible). We'll see what happens this season. Robert Woods might get some hype, Chris Owusu is pretty good, and ASU has a couple of guys who could make some noise (Mike Willie and Gerrel Robinson).

 

[BigTex]

UPDATE: Arkansas has confirmed that Davis is expected to miss the season with a left ankle injury

For those of us that play in leagues that draft college players...should this affect his draft position?

Drafted him in the 3.10 spot last night. Both Richards and James had already been taken. I honestly had forgotten about the injury until I got home last night. Not sure how I forgot about it but time will tell if it's a wasted pick or not.

 

[Faust]

2012 NFL Draft preseason scouting report: Offense

Quarterbacks

Andrew Luck, Stanford* -- Before the 2010 draft we rated Luck as our top quarterback prospect and nothing has changed. The Stanford junior will be graded as the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning. He is the odds-on-favorite to be the top pick in the 2012 draft.

Matt Barkley, USC* -- Barkley is another Pac-12 underclassman who projects well to the next level. He possesses an NFL arm and has the ability to make all the throws. Barkley is very accurate with both the long and short passes. He does not possess classic pocket passer size, yet his combination of physical tools and signal-caller intangibles screams first round.

Kirk Cousins, Michigan State -- The top senior quarterback on our board is one of the most physically gifted signal callers from his class. He drives the deep pass and gets the ball through the tight spots. His defensive reads and propensity to stare down targets are a concern, yet Cousins offers a large degree of upside potential.

Kyle Padron, SMU* -- Offensive genius June Jones may finally have a complete quarterback prospect to work with. Padron offers a major league arm with the ability to accurately place passes anywhere on the field. He needs to improve his defensive reads, yet could make a big move up draft boards if he continues to improve.

Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M* -- After Andrew Luck, there aren't many passers who offer the intangibles or game day intelligence as does Tannehill. He's always in control of the situation and constantly makes proper decisions. Tannehill lacks the rocket arm. He's more of a timing passer who would excel in a West Coast offense.

Ryan Lindley, San Diego State -- He could be the most underrated senior prospect in the nation. He has a terrific combination of physical skills and football smarts, and displays outstanding accuracy and decision-making in the pocket. He's a much better prospect than former Aztec Kevin O'Connell, taken in the third round of the 2008 draft.

Sleeper: Cody Endres, Slippery Rock -- Endres was expected to grab hold of the starting position at UConn this season but several off-field incidents led to his dismissal from the program. In the times he stepped underneath center for the Huskies in the previous two seasons, Endres displayed enough talent to develop into an NFL passer.

Overrated: Landry Jones, Oklahoma* -- Let the outrage begin! Jones is a terrific college quarterback with the moxie and intellect to lead one of the nation's better programs. His physical skills -- including average arm strength and poor skills throwing in motion -- just don't translate into the first-round prospect many have pegged him to be.

Running Backs

Trent Richardson, Alabama* -- The Alabama running game won't miss a beat despite the departure of Mark Ingram to the NFL. Richardson is just as skilled handling the ball and projects better to the NFL. He can pound the ball on the inside but is also elusive. Richardson grades as a true feature runner for the next level.

Bernard Pierce, Temple* -- Another all-purpose running back, Pierce is the best NFL prospect most fans are unfamiliar with. He offers a great combination of instincts, creativeness and skill. Pierce weaves through traffic on the inside and beats opponents around tackle. His style is similar to that of former All-Pro Curtis Martin.

Andre Ellington, Clemson* -- The next in the long line of explosive ball carriers from the Clemson program, Ellington offers skills similar to former Tigers first-round pick C.J. Spiller, but adds a lot more toughness to his game. He's a game-breaking threat who will excite offensive coordinators in the NFL.

Doug Martin, Boise State -- This versatile skill player produces whether carrying the ball or catching it out of the backfield. He projects as a terrific third-down back at the next level.

LaMichael James, Oregon* -- The slippery James is a home run hitter who can score from any spot on the field. His footwork leaves defenders grasping at air, while his speed has them gasping for it as they try to run him down. His small frame is a limiting factor and will prevent him from being anything other than a situational back in the NFL.

Sleeper: Ryan Houston, North Carolina -- Houston was one of the many causalities from the ongoing NCAA investigation at North Carolina and missed the 2010 campaign due to a violation of rules. He's big-bodied, with the strength and size to be a feature runner in the NFL for a power offense.

Overrated: Cyrus Gray, Texas A&M -- NFL scouts love Gray and many grade him as the top senior running back prospect. Our disagreement is based on the fact Gray is nothing more than a situational ball carrier at the next level. He possesses only average size/speed numbers and really has no single outstanding aspect to his game.

Wide Receivers/Tight Ends

Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State* -- Blackmon toyed with the idea of entering the 2011 Draft but decided to return for his junior season. It could pay off big the dynamic, game-controlling receiver who has an appetite for the big play. Another blockbuster campaign will solidify Blackmon as a top eight pick in the 2012 draft, almost 10 slots better than his projected position in last April's event.

Michael Floyd, Notre Dame* -- Floyd also made a last-minute decision to return for another season on the college field. He's a large, possession receiver who does the little things well. Off-field issues will red flag Floyd, as he's experienced three run-ins with the law over alcohol since 2009, most recently receiving a citation for a DUI last March. At the top of his game, Floyd is a reliable pass catcher and offers first-round skills.

Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina* -- Jeffery has a flare for the dramatic on the field and is consistently making receptions featured on highlight tapes. He has the skills to be a number one wideout in the NFL if he continues to improve and focus on football.

Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas* -- He mixes elements of the initial three receivers on this list and adds a game-breaking quality. He's reliable running underneath routes and can out-race defenders and take it the distance down the flanks. This big-time talent should only improve with experience.

Michael Egnew, Missouri -- He's the only tight end to grace this list and stands head and shoulders above all else at the position. A natural pass catcher, he consistently creates mismatches in the secondary. He has all the abilities needed to start in the NFL.

Chris Owusu, Stanford: -- Owusu has been one of Andrew Luck's favorite targets the past two seasons. He runs good routes and consistently finds ways to get open. He's not afraid to go over the middle of the field to make the difficult catch. He possesses enough ability to develop into a second receiver at the NFL level.

Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M -- A big-bodied possession receiver, he has improved his game significantly the past two years. He's tall enough to win out for the jump ball, strong enough to defeat opponents in battles and should be an awesome red-zone threat in the NFL.

Sleeper: Russell Shepard, LSU -- Shepard is a home-run-hitting receiver who's developing an all-around game. He displays solid hands on the shorter routes and easily beats defenders in a foot race down the flanks. Shepard comes with a high upside and could be ready for a breakout season.

Overrated: DeVier Posey, Ohio State --Until he learns to do the little things well, such as run precise routes and consistently catch the pass with his hands, Posey will never meet the potential NFL scouts believe he possesses.

 

[EBF]

Caught bits and pieces of several games today. Some miscellaneous thoughts:

- Oregon RB LaMichael James is really small. Not exactly breaking news, but he has no power. I think his role will be limited in the NFL unless he's just such a freak that his total lack of power doesn't matter (like Jamaal Charles).

- I remain a big fan of Auburn RB Michael Dyer. He just looks the part of an NFL starter. Built like a tank and has loose hips and good speed. I think he's a slam dunk lock for pro success.

- RB Robert Turbin ran hard for Utah State against Auburn. Big back with pretty good hips. Kind of like a Gartrell Johnson/Xavier Omon type. A late rounder who could make an NFL roster as a backup. Nothing flashy though.

- RB Robbie Rouse looked okay for Fresno State. Might not have the greatest burst, but he's short and squatty with good production. He did well with most of his opportunities today. Looks like one to watch as the season progresses.

- WRs Marvin Jones and Keenan Allen showed well for Cal against Fresno State. Both made some big plays and topped 100+ yards. Jones is a potential 4th-7th rounder. I think Allen has a higher ceiling.

- Georgia TE Orson Charles is super athletic. I've heard that his hands are spotty and his production to date hasn't been spectacular, but he has a good reputation on draft websites and his ability to create mismatches with his size/speed combo will be attractive to NFL teams.

Lots of potential 2012 candidates had big statistical days. Too many to list. We'll see who can deliver on a weekly basis as the season rolls on.

 

[eakfootball]

I watched Turbin and saw a bit of Green-Ellis in him.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Not sure why David Wilson isn't getting more attention, but I think he'll be the 2nd best back in next year's draft when everything shakes out. 5'11" 200/205#, fast, bottom-heavy, fantastic vision, good hands, incredible leg strength (owns RB weightlifting records at VT), good student, no trouble, great explosion (top-tier NCAA triple-jumper).

 

[Patoons]

Not sure why David Wilson isn't getting more attention, but I think he'll be the 2nd best back in next year's draft when everything shakes out. 5'11" 200/205#, fast, bottom-heavy, fantastic vision, good hands, incredible leg strength (owns RB weightlifting records at VT), good student, no trouble, great explosion (top-tier NCAA triple-jumper).

Same with Vick Ballard.

 

[T with T]

Caught bits and pieces of several games today. Some miscellaneous thoughts:- Oregon RB LaMichael James is really small. Not exactly breaking news, but he has no power. I think his role will be limited in the NFL unless he's just such a freak that his total lack of power doesn't matter (like Jamaal Charles). - I remain a big fan of Auburn RB Michael Dyer. He just looks the part of an NFL starter. Built like a tank and has loose hips and good speed. I think he's a slam dunk lock for pro success. - RB Robert Turbin ran hard for Utah State against Auburn. Big back with pretty good hips. Kind of like a Gartrell Johnson/Xavier Omon type. A late rounder who could make an NFL roster as a backup. Nothing flashy though. - RB Robbie Rouse looked okay for Fresno State. Might not have the greatest burst, but he's short and squatty with good production. He did well with most of his opportunities today. Looks like one to watch as the season progresses.- WRs Marvin Jones and Keenan Allen showed well for Cal against Fresno State. Both made some big plays and topped 100+ yards. Jones is a potential 4th-7th rounder. I think Allen has a higher ceiling. - Georgia TE Orson Charles is super athletic. I've heard that his hands are spotty and his production to date hasn't been spectacular, but he has a good reputation on draft websites and his ability to create mismatches with his size/speed combo will be attractive to NFL teams. Lots of potential 2012 candidates had big statistical days. Too many to list. We'll see who can deliver on a weekly basis as the season rolls on.

I don't think Jamaal Charles fits the example of a guy with no power. While this may not be his best attribute, he is one of the leaders for yards after contact, not to mention he is the most explosive back in the league with the best vision and yards per carry. He is pretty good at breaking tackles and very strong for 200. Use a diff example when talking about 185 pound James please. haha

 

[jurb26]

Kellen Moore is moving up for me. I'm never overwhelmed by his tools but the guy just has great instincts. Could easily have the success of a Penington. From the same fame, A. Murrary impressed me. He's got maturing to do but also had immense potential.

 

[Lash]

what about the baylor RB ... Gannaway i think was his name

he was running over a bunch of TCU guys all night, bouncing off tackles

IIRC TCU has had great defenses last few years

 

[Steed]

Kellen Moore is moving up for me. I'm never overwhelmed by his tools but the guy just has great instincts. Could easily have the success of a Penington. From the same fame, A. Murrary impressed me. He's got maturing to do but also had immense potential.

He's sub 6' and under 200 lbs. I think he's more Graham Harrell than Chad Pennington.

 

[jurb26]

Yeah, his measurables are far bellow NFL standard that's for sure. But I don't know that I've ever seen a college QB "throw" as many guys open as he does. He consistently throws before the break and leads his WR to the open spot. Those are strong qualities of NFL passers. I still think he's a long shot to ever be a starter in the NFL but I'm liking him more.

 

[coolnerd]

what about the baylor RB ... Gannaway i think was his namehe was running over a bunch of TCU guys all night, bouncing off tacklesIIRC TCU has had great defenses last few years

QB Robert Griffin the real difference maker on that offense. To me, a better player than 2nd rounder Colin Kapernick (sp).

 

[EBF]

Not sure why David Wilson isn't getting more attention, but I think he'll be the 2nd best back in next year's draft when everything shakes out. 5'11" 200/205#, fast, bottom-heavy, fantastic vision, good hands, incredible leg strength (owns RB weightlifting records at VT), good student, no trouble, great explosion (top-tier NCAA triple-jumper).

Same with Vick Ballard.

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on both of those guys. They both look pretty explosive, albeit on the smaller side. While we're touting our favorite RB sleepers, I have to give some hype to Cameron Marshall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tf4GR7h2ekNot sure there's a better size/speed combo in this RB class besides Richardson. The one thing I haven't consistently seen from Marshall's game is the ability to make defenders miss. If he can show me the ability to weave through traffic, he'll be a complete first round RB. He definitely has the frame and the straight-line speed. I just don't like the way he crashes into tacklers instead of cutting to avoid them.

 

[EBF]

Yeah, his measurables are far bellow NFL standard that's for sure. But I don't know that I've ever seen a college QB "throw" as many guys open as he does. He consistently throws before the break and leads his WR to the open spot. Those are strong qualities of NFL passers. I still think he's a long shot to ever be a starter in the NFL but I'm liking him more.

He's like the anti-JaMarcus. None of the physical tools.All of the mental tools. It will be interesting to see how he fares in the NFL. He's not very big and his throwing motion is odd.

 

[EBF]

On another 2013 note, I thought RB Spencer Ware looked pretty promising for LSU last night. Another name to file away.

I know we tend to get carried away with future classes, but that 2013 RB group is already looking deep. Dyer. Lattimore. James White. Ware.

 

[bengalbuck]

On another 2013 note, I thought RB Spencer Ware looked pretty promising for LSU last night. Another name to file away. I know we tend to get carried away with future classes, but that 2013 RB group is already looking deep. Dyer. Lattimore. James White. Ware.

Rod Smith, RS FR for Ohio State is another guy that should have an NFL future. Great size-speed combo and had 74 yards and a TD yesterday. Another of the top RB recruits from that same recruiting class.

 

[Rodeojones]

Brandon Bolden (RB Miss) sustained a serious ankle injury in Saturday's game.

Head coach Houston Nutt said Brandon Bolden's ankle is seriously injured and could be fractured, the NE Mississippi Daily Journal reports.

Link

 

[doowain]

Anyone see the Texas A&M/SMU game?

Curious to how Cyrus Gray looked. The stat line looks good (21/132/2TD). Did some minimal digging for highlights, but didn't come up with much.

 

[BigTex]

Anyone see the Texas A&M/SMU game?Curious to how Cyrus Gray looked. The stat line looks good (21/132/2TD). Did some minimal digging for highlights, but didn't come up with much.

I recorded the game, he looked outstanding. If I get time I'll chop it up and post it on Youtube.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Rueben Randle seems headed to bustland.

 

[EBF]

Doubt many people will be watching because of the NFL game tonight, but there's a marquee matchup of pro receiver prospects at 5 pm PST on Espn 3.

Justin Blackmon (Oklahoma State) vs. Juron Criner (Arizona)

 

[King of the Jungle]

Not much to add, but caught a little of the ND game. Is Michael Floyd on the David Boston workout plan? Dudes arms filled the screen. It is hard to tell how fast he is but he definitely has an NFL physique.

 

[EBF]

You can get a good look at Arizona State RB Cameron Marshall tonight on ESPN3 at 7:30 PST.

ASU vs. Missouri

Missouri also has some draft prospects. TE Michael Egnew and WR TJ Moe.

 

[Patoons]

Not sure why David Wilson isn't getting more attention, but I think he'll be the 2nd best back in next year's draft when everything shakes out. 5'11" 200/205#, fast, bottom-heavy, fantastic vision, good hands, incredible leg strength (owns RB weightlifting records at VT), good student, no trouble, great explosion (top-tier NCAA triple-jumper).

Same with Vick Ballard.

Vick Ballard with another solid game today. Against Auburn too.Week 2 vs. Aub -- 135 yards rushing, 1 TD, 5 rec for 65 yardsWeek 1 vs. Memphis -- 166 yards rushing, 3 TDsLoving how he's showing so far.

 

[Patoons]

Mohamed Sanu of Rutgers and Dwight Jones of UNC with two fantastic games to start the season, as well.

Really like these two coming in to the 2011 season and 2012 draft.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

One guy to keep an eye on for 2013 is Justin Hunter at Tennessee, he's been dominant early on this season. He reminds me a lot of AJ Green, tall skinny guy with great hands, good speed, who simply just wins jump balls.

 

[BigTex]

Not sure why David Wilson isn't getting more attention, but I think he'll be the 2nd best back in next year's draft when everything shakes out. 5'11" 200/205#, fast, bottom-heavy, fantastic vision, good hands, incredible leg strength (owns RB weightlifting records at VT), good student, no trouble, great explosion (top-tier NCAA triple-jumper).

David WilsonHe has been on my list since April. He's not getting a lot of love yet but as the season unfolds I believe that will change.

 

[HAM]

I'm sure he's in here already but Isiah Crowell looks like the real deal. Very patient for a freshman and showing off his hands on a couple of nice screens. 2014 can't ce soon enough. Kid can burn too

 

[jurb26]

I'm sure he's in here already but Isiah Crowell looks like the real deal. Very patient for a freshman and showing off his hands on a couple of nice screens. 2014 can't ce soon enough. Kid can burn too

I was thinking the same thing. Crowell looks very good. Too bad he just cost his team big time with that fumble on the exchange. Otherwise, he's looked dominant.

 

[HAM]

I'm sure he's in here already but Isiah Crowell looks like the real deal. Very patient for a freshman and showing off his hands on a couple of nice screens. 2014 can't ce soon enough. Kid can burn too

I was thinking the same thing. Crowell looks very good. Too bad he just cost his team big time with that fumble on the exchange. Otherwise, he's looked dominant.

Think he just made up for that fumble. He'll learn to cover up better as he gets older.

 

[EBF]

The Pac-12 WRs that have me the most intrigued right now are younger guys. Paul Richardson at Colorado and Keenan Allen at Cal (both 2013 eligible). We'll see what happens this season. Robert Woods might get some hype, Chris Owusu is pretty good, and ASU has a couple of guys who could make some noise (Mike Willie and Gerrel Robinson).

Paul Richardson with a silly stat line today. 11 catches, 284 yards, and 2 TDs. As Borat might say...Wow-a-wee-wa.Keenan Allen also kicking it into gear with two straight 100+ yard games. The 2013 Pac-12 WR class is shaping up to be silly. Allen, Richardson, and Robert Woods, who had about a million catches for USC last week against Minnesota.

 

[EBF]

You can get a good look at Arizona State RB Cameron Marshall tonight on ESPN3 at 7:30 PST.ASU vs. MissouriMissouri also has some draft prospects. TE Michael Egnew and WR TJ Moe.

I watched most of the ASU/Mizzou game last night. A few scattered thoughts...- ASU QB Brock Osweiler probably as an NFL future. He's still raw and will blindly force balls into coverage, but he moves really well for a 6'8" QB and his arm is legit. I think we will be hearing more about him in the coming months. - ASU RB Cameron Marshall struggled to find daylight. His stat line was very poor, but some of that must be attributed to scheme and supporting cast. They kept trying to pound it inside from the spread offense and it didn't work AT ALL. No blocking. No holes. Tacklers in his face immediately. I'm not sure Superman could've averaged 4+ YPC with those opportunities. Having said that, one thing I haven't seen from Marshall is the ability to improvise and create space when blocking breaks down. He is a physical specimen, but he looks like a one cut runner who will struggle when his line doesn't give him the lanes to work with (like what happened last night). - ASU has some good athletes at WR. Mike Willie and Gerell Robinson. They physically look the part of NFL players, but neither really made a massive impact on the game. Willie in particular seems to play well below his physical ability. Still, I would expect to see these guys in a pro camp at some point. - Mizzou has a bare cupboard on offense. There's no Jeremy Maclin, Brad Smith, or Danario Alexander on this team. Much-hyped TE Michael Egnew looked very pedestrian. A tall guy with reasonable coordination, but nothing special in terms of strength or quickness. WR TJ Moe is your typical scrappy college player who lacks next level measurables.

 

[Bruno2]

Doubt many people will be watching because of the NFL game tonight, but there's a marquee matchup of pro receiver prospects at 5 pm PST on Espn 3. Justin Blackmon (Oklahoma State) vs. Juron Criner (Arizona)

I was watching the NFL game, and checked the stats of the Oklahoma St/Arizona game in the paper yesterday and didn't see Criner. Did he get shutout? Or DNP for some reason?

 

[EBF]

Doubt many people will be watching because of the NFL game tonight, but there's a marquee matchup of pro receiver prospects at 5 pm PST on Espn 3. Justin Blackmon (Oklahoma State) vs. Juron Criner (Arizona)

I was watching the NFL game, and checked the stats of the Oklahoma St/Arizona game in the paper yesterday and didn't see Criner. Did he get shutout? Or DNP for some reason?

Didn't play because of injury. Could be back as early as next week.

 

[loose circuits]

just got back from husker game. Robbie Rouse is a kid to keep an eye. He's similar to Quizz or Dion Lewis that he's a tiny guy that can take a pounding and make some plays, but doesn't have great top end speed. 36 for 169 against a pretty good Cornhusker D.

Carr's little brother may have some potential as well.

I'm hoping Burkhead plays on Sundays, but I'm not certain he has the talent. He's good in short yardage

Watching highlights, wondering if Denard Robinson is gonna have the arm to play in the NFL? I thought maybe he would be Josh Cribbs, but after what he showed tonight driving down the field I'm not so sure he can't make it as a QB

 

[Time Kibitzer]

just got back from husker game. Robbie Rouse is a kid to keep an eye. He's similar to Quizz or Dion Lewis that he's a tiny guy that can take a pounding and make some plays, but doesn't have great top end speed. 36 for 169 against a pretty good Cornhusker D.

Carr's little brother may have some potential as well.

I'm hoping Burkhead plays on Sundays, but I'm not certain he has the talent. He's good in short yardage

Watching highlights, wondering if Denard Robinson is gonna have the arm to play in the NFL? I thought maybe he would be Josh Cribbs, but after what he showed tonight driving down the field I'm not so sure he can't make it as a QB

No doubt in my mind he has no chance whatsoever. He's really small, quite thin, he's wildly inaccurate, he just lobs the ball up on way too many throws, and his ability to read defenses is poor. His arm strength and excellent running ability hide those flaws in the NCAA, but that won't be the case in the NFL.

 

[BigTex]

just got back from husker game. Robbie Rouse is a kid to keep an eye. He's similar to Quizz or Dion Lewis that he's a tiny guy that can take a pounding and make some plays, but doesn't have great top end speed. 36 for 169 against a pretty good Cornhusker D.

Carr's little brother may have some potential as well.

I'm hoping Burkhead plays on Sundays, but I'm not certain he has the talent. He's good in short yardage

Watching highlights, wondering if Denard Robinson is gonna have the arm to play in the NFL? I thought maybe he would be Josh Cribbs, but after what he showed tonight driving down the field I'm not so sure he can't make it as a QB

No doubt in my mind he has no chance whatsoever. He's really small, quite thin, he's wildly inaccurate, he just lobs the ball up on way too many throws, and his ability to read defenses is poor. His arm strength and excellent running ability hide those flaws in the NCAA, but that won't be the case in the NFL.

 

[Faust]

OK State's Justin Blackmon headlines list of Week 2 draft risers

Week 2 in the college season offered a number of thrilling games going down to the wire. And in these contests, several top NFL prospects whetted the appetite of pro scouts by standing out. Here's a look at nine players moving north on draft boards after the weekend.

Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State* -- This won't be the last appearance on this list for the Cowboys' elite receiver. He gave NFL decision-makers a glimpse of what he will bring to the next level during OSU's victory over Arizona. Blackmon totaled 12 receptions for 128 receiving yards and two scores, but the stats just scratch the surface. Blackmon put forth a complete game, beating the Wildcats with quickness, speed and brute force, looking and playing like Terrell Owens when the former All-Pro was at the top of his game.

Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama* -- Like Blackmon, Richardson is an underclassman star just starting what should be a banner campaign. In the hostile confines of Happy Valley against Penn State, the dominant runner punched holes through the Nittany Lions' talented defensive line, finishing with 111 yards and two scores on 26 rushing attempts. He looked well-rounded, pounding the ball inside, making defenders miss in traffic and beating them into the open field. Richardson proved once again that he's a complete back worthy of an early-first-round grade.

Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame -- The senior was the go-to guy the Michigan Wolverines could not stop, even when they knew the ball would be thrown in his direction. Floyd had 13 receptions for 159 yards. He has rebounded from off-field issues that got him temporarily removed from the Irish roster, returning to the field with renewed route-running skills and surprising speed.

Mark Barron, S, Alabama -- After displaying flashes of brilliance as a sophomore in 2009, Barron took a step back last season. Saturday he showed scouts he's putting the pieces together. He was tough against the run, making seven tackles while also registering the team's only interception. Barron was constantly around the ball and played smart football, something the NFL desperately wants to see from him on a consistent basis.

Kelechi Osemele, OL, Iowa State -- Despite being hampered with a bad ankle that left him on the turf for several minutes in the first half, Osemele was dominant blocking for the run and protecting his passer in the Cyclones' thrilling overtime victory over Iowa. The left tackle looked well-conditioned, landing several key blocks throughout the second half and overtime. Whether he will play left tackle -- the position he has held down the past two years -- in the NFL is debatable, but most scouts agree Osemele offers big-time potential at the next level.

Khaseem Greene, S, Rutgers* -- The forceful safety stood out during the Scarlet Knights' loss to North Carolina. Greene changed the momentum of the game in Rutgers' favor several times, and led the defense with 13 tackles (including two tackles for loss). Greene also forced one fumble and was very effective on the blitz. He offers next-level size and is developing into a total player at safety.

Nick Perry, DE-OLB, USC -- One of the best athletes on a USC roster that's full of amazing athletic talent, Perry is transitioning his natural skills onto the football field. He was effective in all facets during the Trojans' razor-sharp victory over Utah. He harassed the Utes from defensive end (two tackles for loss, one sack), displayed skills in pass coverage (one pass broken up) and generally made plays sideline-to-sideline. He's starting to get consideration as a top-rated 3-4 outside linebacker.

T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International -- Scouts are aware of the speedster from FIU, who introduced himself to the rest of the football world on Friday night. Hilton was electrifying in helping lead his team to victory in Louisville. He finished with a school-record 201 receiving yards on seven receptions, including 83- and 74-yard catches, the latter resulting in a touchdown. He also averaged 33.5 yards on a pair of kick returns. Initially graded as a late-round choice, Hilton could move into the middle rounds, where a team that needs a slot/fourth receiver who can double as a return specialist may look his way.

Sleeper: Jerome Long, DL, San Diego State -- He gets little respect in the scouting community, but the hard-working defender is constantly making positive plays. Against Army's motion offense, the senior make 10 tackles and one sack. He lacks the great size/speed numbers the NFL looks for, yet his hustling style and ability to always be around the ball will make scouts take notice.

 

[Faust]

Heisman Watch: Could WR Blackmon make history this year?

His record keeps growing, and it is showing no signs of stopping.

Oklahoma State's Justin Blackmon now has had at least 100 yards receiving in 14 consecutive games, three beyond the NCAA mark he broke last season. In comparison, the longest active streak with at least 300-yard passing games of six by Oklahoma's Landry Jones is 18 off Ty Detmer's mark, and games with 100 yards rushing is eight by Texas A&M's Cyrus Gray, which is 23 away from Archie Griffin's record.

It's a level of consistency unlike anything we're seeing in an age of explosive offenses, and one that we're seemingly taking for granted. It prompts the question: would it be enough for him to become the first wide receiver to win the Heisman Trophy?

Yes, previous winners Tim Brown (1987) and Desmond Howard (1991) both played the position, but they were also heavily involved in the kick return games. Blackmon's only significant special teams contribution has been taking a blocked punt he took seven yards for a TD last season. He is simply, and yet brilliantly, a pass-catcher.

That alone couldn't net the award for Michael Crabtree, who was fifth in 2008 or Larry Fitzgerald; his second-place in '03, 128 points behind winner Jason White, is the highest finish for a player who was strictly a WR, and Blackmon himself was fifth in last year's voting.

As much as we discuss whether a defender can ever win, the argument for a strict WR is overshadowed. If Blackmon's streak lasts through the season -- and there's a good chance it will as the Cowboys see just two teams that ranked higher than 51st last season in pass defense -- expect this debate to be front and center.

Here's a look at how the Watchman stacked things up after last week, but before we unveil this week's top 10, a little housekeeping. We say so long (for now) to preseason favorite LaMichael James. While the Oregon running back showed his versatility against Nevada, he also finished below the 100-yard rushing mark for the second straight game, a troubling mark for the nation's top rusher a year ago. He'll have to work his way back up this list, but the good news is it's only September.

1. QB Andrew Luck, Stanford, Jr.

Last week: 20-of-28 passing for 290 yards, four TDs and one INT; three rushes for two yards in 44-14 win over Duke.

Season: 37-of-54 passing for 461 yards, six TDs and one INT; five rushes for 11 yards and one TD.

"We're a lot more than just Andrew Luck and the Luckettes," coach David Shaw said. Yes, but it's Luck who sets Stanford apart. Immediately after a deflected pass was returned for a TD, Luck responded by leading a 38-second drive that covered 59 yards through the air, en route to his fifth career four-TD game. With 51 career TD passes he's one behind Jim Plunkett, Stanford's last Heisman winner, for third on the school's all-time list. Luck should be tested in one of the better September QB duels next week as he faces Arizona's Nick Foles, who has an FBS-best 810 yards through two games.

Next up: Saturday at Arizona

2. QB Kellen Moore, Boise State, Sr.

Last week: Idle

Season: 28-of-34 passing for 261 yards, three TDs and an interception.

The Broncos faced their only BCS opponent, and have one date with a currently ranked team, No. 25 TCU, remaining. With blowouts in the forecast, Moore can expect to have his candidacy scrutinized because of them. But his play against BCS teams speaks for itself. In five games, he has thrown for 1,347 yards, 13 TDs and two picks and completed 69 percent of his passes -- oh, and he's 5-0. This week's opponent isn't from a power conference, but Toledo is no slouch; it upset Penn State in 2000, Michigan in '08, Colorado in '09, Purdue in '10 and put a scare into No. 17 Ohio State Saturday.

Next up: Friday at Toledo

3. RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina, Soph.

Last week: 27 rushes for 176 yards and one TD; two receptions for eight yards.

Season: 50 rushes for 288 yards and four TDs; five receptions for 41 yards.

Lattimore surges up the charts with another dominant performance against Georgia. Last season he had his breakout game against the Bulldogs, and Saturday he burned them again, pushing his two-game total in the series to 64 rushes for 358 yards. But maybe most impressive was the way he closed, running 13 times for 96 yards in the fourth quarter in a hostile environment. He's on pace for a 300-carry season, and given Steve Spurrier's willingness to ride his workhorse's back to the wheels fall off, that number may be on the light side.

Next up: Saturday vs. Navy

4. QB Robert Griffin, Baylor, Jr.

Last week: Idle

Season: 21-of-27 passing for 359 yards, five TDs; 10 rushes for 38 yards and one reception for 15 yards.

RGIII gets another week to celebrate his monster performance against TCU, his Golden Bears' No. 20 ranking (their highest since 1991) and being the only contender on this list with his own logo. He wasn't exactly helped by the Horned Frogs this week as their defense continued to struggle, giving up 416 yards (over the first two games the Frogs have given up 575 more yards than a year ago) in a win over Air Force. Nonetheless, Griffin has a chance to pad his stats this week against an FCS opponent.

Next up: Saturday vs. Stephen F. Austin

5. WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State, Jr.

Last week: 12 receptions for 128 yards and two TDs; one rush for six yards in 37-14 win over Arizona.

Season: 20 receptions for 272 yards and two TDs; one rush for six yards.

Take your pick on your favorite Blackmon highlight from this one. There was the over-the-shoulder-catch on a fade route where he managed to tap his foot down for the touchdown, and then there was the 360 spin move that left Wildcats safety Marquis Flowers shaking his head. Combined with the Cowboys' 36-10 win in December's Alamo Bowl, Blackmon has burned 'Zona to the tune of 21 catches for 245 yards and four TDs.

Next up: Saturday at Tulsa



6. QB Landry Jones, Oklahoma, Jr.

Last week: Idle

Season: 35-of-47 passing for 375 yards, one TD; one rush for two yards.

Last September Jones carved up Florida State to the tune of 380 yards and four touchdowns, with a staggering 75 percent completion percentage, as the Sooners rolled 47-17. After that blowout, how could their rematch offer Jones a chance to pad his Heisman resume? OU's romp came in the friendly confines of Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, and it has nowhere near the buzz of this meeting. If Jones can dominate a Top-5 showdown in Tallahassee -- and upstage the Seminoles' emerging contender QB E.J. Manuel -- everyone else may be playing catch-up.

Next up: Saturday vs. Florida State

7. RB Trent Richardson, Alabama, Jr.

Last week: 26 rushes for 111 yards and two TDs; four receptions for 19 yards and one kick return for 19 yards in 27-11 win over No. 23 Penn State.

Season: 39 rushes for 148 yards and five TDs; five receptions for 35 yards and one kick return for 19 yards.

Wasn't this what we were expecting with Richardson in the lead back role? After running for 37 yards on 13 carries in the opener, he had a workmanlike 111 yards on 26 carries. Week 2 gems seem to be part of the script for Richardson. As a freshman, he ran for 118 yards vs. FIU and last season he had 144 against the Nittany Lions. He could be in for a another huge day this week if Nick Saban keeps him in the game long enough; combining last season's stats and the first two weeks of 2011, North Texas has allowed 182 rushing ypg.

Next up: Saturday vs. North Texas

8. QB Denard Robinson, Michigan, Jr.

Last week: 11-of-24 passing for 338 yards, four TDs and three INTs; 16 rushes for 108 yards and one TD in 35-31 win over Notre Dame.

Season: 20-of-37 passing for 436 yards, four TDs and three INTs; 24 rushes for 154 yards and one TD.

If the Heisman could be won in September, Shoelace would be in Archie Griffin territory. He was the defining player in a game that has grown in stature over the years as he directed scoring drives of 83, 40, 58 and 80 yards, capped by a 16-yard floater to Roy Roundtree with two seconds left. In all, Robinson accounted for 446 of the Wolverines' 452 yards, averaging a staggering 30.7 yards per completion. Before we jump back on the bandwagon, he has to deliver a win against a ranked opponent, something he won't get a chance to do until Oct. 15 vs. Michigan State.

Next up: Saturday vs. Eastern Michigan



9. QB Taylor Martinez, Nebraska, Soph.

Last week: 10-of-21 passing for 219 yards, one TD and two INTs; 15 rushes for 166 yards and two TDs in 42-29 win over Fresno State.

Season: 21-of-43 passing for 335 yards, one TD and two INTs; 34 rushes for 301 yards and five TDs.

Martinez's 385 total yards were the second most of his career and for the seventh time he had at least 100 yards passing and 100 yards rushing. Of his 25 combined rushes and completions, seven were for 20 yards or longer, including a 57-yard run and a pass for 53 yards. But it was an uneven outing as he fumbled twice and threw two picks as his passer rating dipped to 112.7, which ranks 84th nationally. He continues to dazzle with his legs, but he has to shore up his passing game.

Next up: Saturday vs. Washington

10. QB Case Keenum, Houston, Sr.

Last week: 26-of-41 passing for 458 yards and five TDs; six rushes for nine yards in 48-23 win over North Texas.

Season: 56-of-81 passing for 768 yards and six TDs; 13 rushes for 39 yards.

The Watchman is a sucker for the pursuit of history. Keenum continued his, climbing up the career yardage lists with his 13th game of 400-plus yards and the first in his comeback from knee surgery. He's now fourth in passing yards (14,354) and total yardage (15,255), supplanting Colt Brennan and Colt McCoy, respectively, and tied with Danny Wuerffel for sixth all-time with his 114th TD pass. Keenum did most of his damage in the second half, hitting on 17 of 22 attempts for 284 yards and four TDs before sitting with nearly 14 minutes remaining. Most importantly in his Heisman pursuit, Keenum moved Houston to 2-0.

Next up: Saturday at Louisiana Tech