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[DYNASTY] 2013 Top 20 Rookies (1 Viewer)

Not an expert by any means but came away very impressed with Marquis Goodwin after watching the game this morning. Has plenty of juice and an extra gear when the ball is in the air. Couldn't find the ball in the 1st quarter on the studder go but connected on same play in the 4th to win the game. EBF what are your thoughts on him? I think he is very interesting as a deep play guy ala Mike Wallace. In the right offense could be a monster in a couple years. I think things that held him back in college was the UT offense and all his time dedicated to track. A guy I am going to be watching because he is going to blow up at the combine imo.
He's not the biggest guy and he didn't have great production in college, but he has an elite skill that will give him an advantage at the next level. If he decides to focus on football instead of track, the obvious comparison for what he brings to the table is Jacoby Ford.
 
The Chachinator is not impressed with this class. The Chachinator feels that Michael Floyd would have been the slam dunk top pick if he came out this year. Overall the Chachinator can't recommend this draft class.

 
'Chachi said:
The Chachinator is not impressed with this class. The Chachinator feels that Michael Floyd would have been the slam dunk top pick if he came out this year. Overall the Chachinator can't recommend this draft class.
Easy there big fella, I agree this class sucks but lets not get carried away.
 
3. RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama - Not a special back, but does enough things well to start and post decent numbers at the next level. Lacy is a big back with surprisingly good feet and hands. He is capable of making sharp cuts in the open field to leave defenders grasping air. However, he's a bit inconsistent in terms of his hips and footwork, sometimes struggling to shift his momentum fast enough to avoid big collisions. I really don't think he's an amazing player destined for stardom. There are many players on this list who have higher ceilings, but for teams needing instant help at RB, Lacy will be a serviceable solution. I would compare his talent level to someone like Ridley, Law Firm, or Greene.
I agree with your overall ranking of Lacy, but strongly disagree with your final statement. He's potentially the best RB in this class; and while it's not a very good class, that still says something. BJGE and Greene are the bottom of the barrel, when it comes to starting NFL running backs. I will be interested to see what Lacy actually weighs in at; I don't buy the numbers provided by his team. But we are talking about a 230 lb back with potential 4.50 speed. I know size/speed ratio isn't everything, but it is obviously very important. Once we take is quickness and elusiveness into consideration, Lacy has physical tools that BJGE and Greene just don't.

Situation will determine a lot, and of course we need to see how the NFL values him. But I really wouldn't be surprised to see Lacy ranked as a top 10 dynasty back this time next year.

Also: Thanks for this thread. They are always appreciated and always serve as a list of guys for me to pay attention to during the bowl game/combine process

 
The Chachinator is not impressed with this class. The Chachinator feels that Michael Floyd would have been the slam dunk top pick if he came out this year. Overall the Chachinator can't recommend this draft class.
Easy there big fella, I agree this class sucks but lets not get carried away.
Schtick aside, he's likely right. Format will determine whether RBs will be more valuable, but Floyd would likely be the highest skill payer drafted this year, except for the QBs teams will reach for.
 
EBF, thanks for posting! Love your insight as I begin my own analysis...and look forward to reading your posts each year in the Shark Pool.

 
'EBF said:
Hopkins making a case for himself tonight.
Hopkins performance and case pales in comparison to Boyd's. Boyd made himself a ton of money last night. It was easily the best performance of the bowl season thus far.From a next level standpoint he showed more ability than I ever thought he have. Made several throws into tight windows, dealt very well with pocket pressure and showed a mental toughness you can't coach.Boyd could be this year high riser at QB.
 
Seems like with that many players listed, Rex Burkhead deserves mention. Stock is down because of knee injuriy this year but he is a do everything type of back who at the least would make a great 3rd down/goal-line back (ala MB3 early on) who can also return punts
Rex making a strong case for himself today if anyone is watching Capital One Bowl
 
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I have nothing substantial to add to the conversation, but the information was so thorough and well put together I had to drop a line to thank EBF for his contribution. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar, and an asset to the football loving community!

/cheer!

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'BeTheMatch said:
'JohnnyU said:
Le'Veon Bell tells HC Dantonio he's declaring
Makes sense. Weak RB class. No sense logging 300 more carries in college.
At 6-2" 245, I'll put him somewhere between a TJ Duckett and a Brandon Jacobs.
You should watch a player play before comparing him. I see Michael Bush or a more athletic L. Blount...both are much more agile than Duckett/Jacobs.
 
Does Bell run with power? In the one video I watched, he mostly just tried to avoid defenders so he wasn't putting his weight to use.

 
Bell is a mostly a finesse runner with little power. Yes he can be hard to bring down at times, but that's about it.

 
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Thank you very much EBF. People may or may not agree with your thoughts, but one thing is for sure..... You put a LOT of work and reasoning into this and that is commended and respected!

 
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Bell is a mostly a finesse runner with little power. Yes he can be hard to bring down at times, but that's about it.
That's what I noticed. He does a lot of dancing at the line and runs soft but due to his size he is able to pick up some yards.
 
'lod01 said:
'BeTheMatch said:
'JohnnyU said:
Le'Veon Bell tells HC Dantonio he's declaring
Makes sense. Weak RB class. No sense logging 300 more carries in college.
At 6-2" 245, I'll put him somewhere between a TJ Duckett and a Brandon Jacobs.
You should watch a player play before comparing him. I see Michael Bush or a more athletic L. Blount...both are much more agile than Duckett/Jacobs.
I think he's worse than all four players mentioned here.
 
'lod01 said:
'BeTheMatch said:
'JohnnyU said:
Le'Veon Bell tells HC Dantonio he's declaring
Makes sense. Weak RB class. No sense logging 300 more carries in college.
At 6-2" 245, I'll put him somewhere between a TJ Duckett and a Brandon Jacobs.
You should watch a player play before comparing him. I see Michael Bush or a more athletic L. Blount...both are much more agile than Duckett/Jacobs.
Dude, it was a joke. He's 6'2, Duckett was 6'0 and Jacobs 6'4". He really has little value in today's NFL. Don't really need to see him play. Very few teams would have a use for a guy like this and most if not all are already bottomfeeders.
 
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Bell is a mostly a finesse runner with little power. Yes he can be hard to bring down at times, but that's about it.
Your discription makes him sound like Ron Dayne.
Not too far off. Bell has passing game skills though. And once up to speed he's tough to bring down, the problem is it takes a while for that to happen and that just won't happen often in the NFL. When he doesn't get up to speed he's easy to bring down.
 
'lod01 said:
'lod01 said:
'BeTheMatch said:
'JohnnyU said:
Le'Veon Bell tells HC Dantonio he's declaring
Makes sense. Weak RB class. No sense logging 300 more carries in college.
At 6-2" 245, I'll put him somewhere between a TJ Duckett and a Brandon Jacobs.
You should watch a player play before comparing him. I see Michael Bush or a more athletic L. Blount...both are much more agile than Duckett/Jacobs.
Dude, it was a joke. He's 6'2, Duckett was 6'0 and Jacobs 6'4". He really has little value in today's NFL. Don't really need to see him play. Very few teams would have a use for a guy like this and most if not all are already bottomfeeders.
So you haven't, I rest my case.
 
Spencer Ware declared.
:thumbup: Good news. IMO he's one of the most underrated backs in the draft. Had poor numbers this season because he took a backseat to Jeremy Hill, but his running style and versatility are a great fit for the NFL. I expect him to fall to the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft. Maybe even a little later. However, he'll be pretty high on my board. Probably a top 3-4 RB and a top 10-15 overall player.
 
Spencer Ware declared.
:thumbup: Good news. IMO he's one of the most underrated backs in the draft. Had poor numbers this season because he took a backseat to Jeremy Hill, but his running style and versatility are a great fit for the NFL. I expect him to fall to the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft. Maybe even a little later. However, he'll be pretty high on my board. Probably a top 3-4 RB and a top 10-15 overall player.
:goodposting:Vision and speed are probably question marks, but his quickness/acceleration combined with his bowling ball size and pass catching ability makes him a very promising prospect. Though he may be a little too willing to take on defenders head on, could have some injury issues in the future.
 
Spencer Ware declared.
:thumbup: Good news. IMO he's one of the most underrated backs in the draft. Had poor numbers this season because he took a backseat to Jeremy Hill, but his running style and versatility are a great fit for the NFL. I expect him to fall to the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft. Maybe even a little later. However, he'll be pretty high on my board. Probably a top 3-4 RB and a top 10-15 overall player.
:goodposting:Vision and speed are probably question marks, but his quickness/acceleration combined with his bowling ball size and pass catching ability makes him a very promising prospect. Though he may be a little too willing to take on defenders head on, could have some injury issues in the future.
Isn't he like 5'11"? I wouldn't call that bowling ball size. But he's still a nice pro prospect.
 
Spencer Ware declared.
:thumbup: Good news. IMO he's one of the most underrated backs in the draft. Had poor numbers this season because he took a backseat to Jeremy Hill, but his running style and versatility are a great fit for the NFL. I expect him to fall to the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft. Maybe even a little later. However, he'll be pretty high on my board. Probably a top 3-4 RB and a top 10-15 overall player.
:goodposting:Vision and speed are probably question marks, but his quickness/acceleration combined with his bowling ball size and pass catching ability makes him a very promising prospect. Though he may be a little too willing to take on defenders head on, could have some injury issues in the future.
Yea, Ware needs to stop trying to be the alpha dog every time he meets a linebacker or safety in the hole. That's a good way to have a short career. I hope his NFL coaches will discourage that. Ware doesn't have awesome speed and probably won't test great at the combine, but he's a good athlete with efficient movement, good quickness, and nimble feet for such a big back. He also has very rare receiving ability for a 220+ pounder. Check out this catch from earlier this season:http://youtu.be/FPgRS9_22Ls?t=42sIn terms of NFL comps he reminds me guys like Marion Barber and Marshawn Lynch in some respects. The low YPC and poor junior production will scare off a lot of people, but this guy is a player and will definitely make some kind of impact in the NFL. Bear in mind that LSU RBs have a history of being better in the NFL than they were in college (Addai, Ridley). I don't think Ware is Pro Bowl material, but I look for him to become a pretty good pro back.
 
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'Boone22 said:
'finito said:
'loose circuits said:
I wonder what his grade was that he's saying he was surprised it was so high.
He said in the articles that he received a 3rd round grade.
Thanks lol, I didn't see that. What little I've seen of Jamison is impressive, but I don't know enough about him yet.
Jamison is overrated. I've seen a few guys say he's the best back in this draft. I don't think he's even close.I see a bit of Ronnie Hillman, with a little more strength.

 

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