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[dynasty] Frank Gore (1 Viewer)

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I think we all agree that he could have a monster year this year with an improved OL and improved pass game, but what about next year when he's 29yo or the year after?

How much gas in the tank do you think he has left?

Thanks!

 
He'll only be 28 years old in 2011, FWIW.
oops! Thanks!
That's right, 28.5 when the season starts. With the way HOF running backs without multiple knee surgeries have fallen off at 30 yo recently, you need to move him now. This time next year - you get tier 15-20 value AT BEST.
Well, you can just move him at all costs. I mean, if you're a competitive team, you'd need to get a good, younger player in return. And who's going to do that? If you're in rebuilding mode, sell him for whatever you can get from a contender.
 
Well the key is whether or not you think you can legitimately compete in the next 2-3 years. If so, Gore is a definite hold or even buy IMO. There aren't many running backs that produce at Gore's level, and there's no reason to think he won't continue to be productive for 3 more years. But if you're in rebuild mode or don't think your team has legit title hopes in the near term, you're correct in that you may as well move him while his value is likely at its peak.

 
He'll only be 28 years old in 2011, FWIW.
oops! Thanks!
That's right, 28.5 when the season starts. With the way HOF running backs without multiple knee surgeries have fallen off at 30 yo recently, you need to move him now. This time next year - you get tier 15-20 value AT BEST.
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
 
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
This.If you are not a contender, this offseason is the time to get the most in return for Gore. If you are a contender, ride Gore for 2-3 more years. You won't get adequate value in return now or ever, ride him until the wheels fall off. He should be top 5 for the next two years, and maybe for the next 3-4 years. He is a stud in a very good, possibly great, situation.
 
He'll only be 28 years old in 2011, FWIW.
oops! Thanks!
That's right, 28.5 when the season starts. With the way HOF running backs without multiple knee surgeries have fallen off at 30 yo recently, you need to move him now. This time next year - you get tier 15-20 value AT BEST.
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
good advice.moving Gore now only makes sense if you are receiving fair value in return.
 
thanks all for the feedback. Actually, someone is looking to sell me Gore. Since I've never had him in a dynasty and maybe once in a re-draft, I never followed his career that closely. More specifically, his injuries and why he seems to miss a few games every year.

Does Gore have some kind of degenerative injury (eg. Tory Holt's knees)?

 
He'll only be 28 years old in 2011, FWIW.
oops! Thanks!
That's right, 28.5 when the season starts. With the way HOF running backs without multiple knee surgeries have fallen off at 30 yo recently, you need to move him now. This time next year - you get tier 15-20 value AT BEST.
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
good advice.moving Gore now only makes sense if you are receiving fair value in return.
What are you considering fair value? If you still consider Gore a top 5 dynasty RB it ain't happening. Come off the hard line stance and accept 8-10 value. Move Gore for Felix/McCoy plus a second piece if you can. You aren't going to get a proven workhorse like Mendenhall any longer - that time was last off-season.
 
oops! Thanks!
That's right, 28.5 when the season starts. With the way HOF running backs without multiple knee surgeries have fallen off at 30 yo recently, you need to move him now. This time next year - you get tier 15-20 value AT BEST.
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
good advice.moving Gore now only makes sense if you are receiving fair value in return.
What are you considering fair value? If you still consider Gore a top 5 dynasty RB it ain't happening. Come off the hard line stance and accept 8-10 value. Move Gore for Felix/McCoy plus a second piece if you can. You aren't going to get a proven workhorse like Mendenhall any longer - that time was last off-season.
When I think of moving Gore it has to be in a bundled deal. For whatever reason Gore by himself commands little, but his value seems to rocket up when you bundle him with something like Maclin. Maybe its because beople like that added bit of safety in the trade. If Gore falls off a cliff, at least I have this other guy I wanted. This allows their subconscious mind to put true value on Gore. For example, I would have no shot at trading Gore straight up for Mendenhall right now. However, if I bundle Gore plus Maclin for Mendnehall and Britt - all of a sudden the other guy is listening.Sometimes you need to find that lesser guy on your team that someone want's really bad but they won't let themselves over pay. Including a player like Gore in the deal allows them to justify "overpaying" for the lesser guy they really wanted.
 
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I would not trade Gore straight up for Mendenhall. I'm not even convinced Mendenhall is *that* good. You can talk about people dropping off a cliff at 30, but what about the RBs that never pan out. I'm not sure McCoy, Mendy, Felix are ever going to be true studs, and if they're not, then the age difference means squat. I think you have to ride guys like Gore and Sjax into the sunset.

 
I would not trade Gore straight up for Mendenhall. I'm not even convinced Mendenhall is *that* good. You can talk about people dropping off a cliff at 30, but what about the RBs that never pan out. I'm not sure McCoy, Mendy, Felix are ever going to be true studs, and if they're not, then the age difference means squat. I think you have to ride guys like Gore and Sjax into the sunset.
I don't think u can get Mendenhall/Wells for Gore or SJax straight up. Moving either guy would have to be part of a pkg to get a top 10 RB. The time is now to move them and if not this off season u won't get value for either. In a Non-PPR I've seen SJax and Roddy moved for CJ3 recently and IMO that was a very nice deal to get CJ3. If SJax was replaced with Gore in that deal its still a good deal for CJ3.
 
I would not trade Gore straight up for Mendenhall. I'm not even convinced Mendenhall is *that* good. You can talk about people dropping off a cliff at 30, but what about the RBs that never pan out. I'm not sure McCoy, Mendy, Felix are ever going to be true studs, and if they're not, then the age difference means squat. I think you have to ride guys like Gore and Sjax into the sunset.
I don't think u can get Mendenhall/Wells for Gore or SJax straight up. Moving either guy would have to be part of a pkg to get a top 10 RB. The time is now to move them and if not this off season u won't get value for either. In a Non-PPR I've seen SJax and Roddy moved for CJ3 recently and IMO that was a very nice deal to get CJ3. If SJax was replaced with Gore in that deal its still a good deal for CJ3.
Not sure i agree with that. Ive seen Gore traded for Stewart several times this offseason in competitive leagues.
 
I would not trade Gore straight up for Mendenhall. I'm not even convinced Mendenhall is *that* good. You can talk about people dropping off a cliff at 30, but what about the RBs that never pan out. I'm not sure McCoy, Mendy, Felix are ever going to be true studs, and if they're not, then the age difference means squat. I think you have to ride guys like Gore and Sjax into the sunset.
I don't think u can get Mendenhall/Wells for Gore or SJax straight up. Moving either guy would have to be part of a pkg to get a top 10 RB. The time is now to move them and if not this off season u won't get value for either. In a Non-PPR I've seen SJax and Roddy moved for CJ3 recently and IMO that was a very nice deal to get CJ3. If SJax was replaced with Gore in that deal its still a good deal for CJ3.
Not sure i agree with that. Ive seen Gore traded for Stewart several times this offseason in competitive leagues.
I said I don't think u can get Mendenhall/Wells but I didn't say don't try. Personally I wouldn't move either for Gore/SJax but some will.
 
Ironically, I just discussed a Gore for Crabtree yesterday.

I'm stocked at WR (elderly though) but I think I would have to get Coffee on my team before I felt comfortable with Gore as my 2nd RB.

 
Selling Gore just depends on finding a buyer that values him very highly. In most leagues, that is unlikely, and at Gore's "going rate" it would just be stupid to sell him.

People already treat him like he's a 29 year old runner who's on the outs. The guy is two years older than Shonn Green and one year older than Maurice Jones-Drew. He's not nearly as old as his trade value dictates, so why trade a guy who's value is already treating him like a 29 year old when he won't actually BE a 29 year old for another two years?

May as well ride him out at this point. Anyone you can trade him straight up for at this point is probably more likely to never give you a single good season than Gore is to give you only one or two.

 
I've stated elsewhere that I'd sell Gore, but only for the right player; to me it's a very short list. Straight-up, I'd do Wells and Stewart (looking only at players ranked below Gore). Gore likely has the better 2010, but it's not far-fetched to imagine Wells or Stewart approximating Gore's production this year, and you get a few years younger, which is really the gist of this discussion.

Players that I'd consider for Gore with some decent padding to the offer are Greene, Felix Jones and LeSean McCoy (in that order). Others might consider players like Mendenhall, Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte. All worthy of discussion, but I don't budge Gore for any of these. ... Just my own personal preference. In my estimation Wells and Stewart are much >>>.

 
Selling Gore just depends on finding a buyer that values him very highly. In most leagues, that is unlikely, and at Gore's "going rate" it would just be stupid to sell him.

People already treat him like he's a 29 year old runner who's on the outs. The guy is two years older than Shonn Green and one year older than Maurice Jones-Drew. He's not nearly as old as his trade value dictates, so why trade a guy who's value is already treating him like a 29 year old when he won't actually BE a 29 year old for another two years?

May as well ride him out at this point. Anyone you can trade him straight up for at this point is probably more likely to never give you a single good season than Gore is to give you only one or two.
Just sayin.......MJD 3/23/85 - 25 years old

Gore 5/14/83 - 27 years old tomorrow

MJD has him by basically 2 years

 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.

 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
No they're not. Just did a dynasty start up with staffers and Gore went 20th overall ahead of Desean, VJax, Miles and Jennings
 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
I don't want to trot out the weary 'what leagues do you play in?' - but that is not anything near the value I am seeing Gore commanding in dynasty trades.
 
Well call me crazy, cause i just traded Mendenhall for Gore in a non ppr dynasty.

Not supersold on Mendy although i like his outlook. Im trying to gain any edge i can over my opponents in my league.

Gore gives me a ability to have a advantage when facing weaker teams at rb.

Brees Gore DWill Stewart Austin Wayne Boldin Garcon Gates Finley is a few i can choose to start from but have other nice players as well,

but i think i rather see if Gore can produce at a high level for the next few yrs and i will get a younger replacement later.

 
Well call me crazy, cause i just traded Mendenhall for Gore in a non ppr dynasty. Not supersold on Mendy although i like his outlook. Im trying to gain any edge i can over my opponents in my league. Gore gives me a ability to have a advantage when facing weaker teams at rb. Brees Gore DWill Stewart Austin Wayne Boldin Garcon Gates Finley is a few i can choose to start from but have other nice players as well, but i think i rather see if Gore can produce at a high level for the next few yrs and i will get a younger replacement later.
Dixon on the cheap would be icing on the cake.
 
Buy Frank Gore. I mean he's got three solid, SOLID years left in him. Would you rather give you team a chance to win now, or 4 years down the road. I really don't get it. This guy runs with so much heart. Got two stud o-lineman this offseason. Crabs developing into a 'almost' must double guy

#### just buy from these fools playing the 'dynasty' and reap the rewards. Just draft some good cheap RB to cover yourself. Gore is a stud

 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
No they're not. Just did a dynasty start up with staffers and Gore went 20th overall ahead of Desean, VJax, Miles and Jennings
If that is PPR, chances are none of the teams taking Desean, Vjax, Miles or Jennings after Gore would trade those players for Gore straight up. It only takes one guy who likes Gore in a startup to draft him ahead of those guys in any given league. Problem occurs if and when that team ever wants to trade him.
 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
No they're not. Just did a dynasty start up with staffers and Gore went 20th overall ahead of Desean, VJax, Miles and Jennings
If that is PPR, chances are none of the teams taking Desean, Vjax, Miles or Jennings after Gore would trade those players for Gore straight up. It only takes one guy who likes Gore in a startup to draft him ahead of those guys in any given league. Problem occurs if and when that team ever wants to trade him.
don't think thats true either. Ive seen Gore traded for both Stewart and Mendenhall and have seen Brandon Marshall offered for him. And thats just my personal experience. Just because you and some others are down on gore's value doesnt mean everyone in the league is.
 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
No they're not. Just did a dynasty start up with staffers and Gore went 20th overall ahead of Desean, VJax, Miles and Jennings
Just because FBG staffers are in the dynasty league doesn't necessarily make it a strong league. Just sayin'..
 
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
And all but seven carries and one catch were over the last 13 games. Maybe 20 touches per game isn't workhorse territory anymore what with the proliferation of teams riding a single RB for 400 carries a year and all?
 
If i were to trade him, it would be for a WR not a RB. Why downgrade at RB just to get younger? Much rather boost my WR core with a young proven WR. Be a much easier and imo lucrative trade to find a team with WRs who needs a RB.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
No they're not. Just did a dynasty start up with staffers and Gore went 20th overall ahead of Desean, VJax, Miles and Jennings
Just because FBG staffers are in the dynasty league doesn't necessarily make it a strong league. Just sayin'..
Not saying its strong or weak, im just saying from my experience he is valued higher than you give him credit for. Ive pretty much seen him dealt for everything outside AP, MJD, Rice, CJ, AJ, Calvin and Fitz. I mean we can go back and forth as to whether your leagues are stronger than mine and vice versa but all im saying is just because you don't value him that highly doesn't mean other good owners feel the same. I actually value him about the same as you but i know from expereince that i undervalue him compared to most.
 
He's been gaining a tiny bit of hype lately, but up until just recently you could not move him for anything it seemed. At some point he's just worth keeping. In other words, don't dump him for too little just for the sake of moving him. If you are really hell bent on trading him it might be best to move him after one of the first few games of the season to a team that is struggling at RB.
This.If you are not a contender, this offseason is the time to get the most in return for Gore. If you are a contender, ride Gore for 2-3 more years. You won't get adequate value in return now or ever, ride him until the wheels fall off. He should be top 5 for the next two years, and maybe for the next 3-4 years. He is a stud in a very good, possibly great, situation.
:thumbup: It's pretty simple - yes, you want to try to get out of big name players before they go off a cliff, but this hobby is still about winning championships first and foremost. Gore could easily join the uberelite CJ/MJD/Peterson/Rice tier this year and stay there next year, not to mention still get to be the lead back for another team for another year or two before going over that cliff. Trading Gore for an unproven commodity like a rookie back or a Jones/McCoy/Wells is not a recipe to win this year, or maybe even next year. You are hoping those guys will become what Gore is right now, and chances are, they won't be.
 
proven workhorse like Mendenhall
:unsure:
:goodposting: I guess he's proved it to someone.... :lmao:
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
 
proven workhorse like Mendenhall
:unsure:
:lol: I guess he's proved it to someone.... :lmao:
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
Great posting.
 
proven workhorse like Mendenhall
:unsure:
:goodposting: I guess he's proved it to someone.... :lmao:
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
Even though 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ranked ahead of Mendenhall and Wells doesn't mean they won't trade Gore for either of them does it?
 
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
Even though 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ranked ahead of Mendenhall and Wells doesn't mean they won't trade Gore for either of them does it?
not at all, but it certainly proves that Gore v. Mendenhall is far from a no-brainer
 
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
Even though 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ranked ahead of Mendenhall and Wells doesn't mean they won't trade Gore for either of them does it?
not at all, but it certainly proves that Gore v. Mendenhall is far from a no-brainer
So if its possible even though a staffer has Gore ranked higher but will trade him for Mendenhall/Wells, how should the dynasty rankings be interpreted? Value long term? Value short term? Production this year? Production long term? How should I view the rankings? Why shouldn't said staffer just rank Mendenhall/Wells over Gore?
 
What more do you want from a FIRST YEAR starter?242 carries for 1108, 4.6 ypc, 7 TD25 catches for 261Damn, I know I like to forward-think but this is a no brainer, fellas.
Mendenhall was a one-year wonder in college. He promptly got hurt as soon as he was the starter in 2008. He was benched the game before he became the starter last year. I'm not convinced he's clearly more talented than Dwyer. 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ahead of Mendenhall in their dynasty rankings. It's not a no-brainer.
Even though 6 out of 6 staffers have Gore ranked ahead of Mendenhall and Wells doesn't mean they won't trade Gore for either of them does it?
not at all, but it certainly proves that Gore v. Mendenhall is far from a no-brainer
So if its possible even though a staffer has Gore ranked higher but will trade him for Mendenhall/Wells, how should the dynasty rankings be interpreted? Value long term? Value short term? Production this year? Production long term? How should I view the rankings? Why shouldn't said staffer just rank Mendenhall/Wells over Gore?
Cause those rankings are in a bubble? Person's team is going to have a lot to do with any deal.
 
Cause those rankings are in a bubble? Person's team is going to have a lot to do with any deal.
Rankings are usually for start up drafts. Trading player for player depends alot on team situation in dynasty.If Im in it to win it, Id move Mendey or Beanie for Gore. If Im rebuilding I move Gore for Beanie/Mendy and probably snag a WR or TE too
 
thanks all for the feedback. Actually, someone is looking to sell me Gore. Since I've never had him in a dynasty and maybe once in a re-draft, I never followed his career that closely. More specifically, his injuries and why he seems to miss a few games every year. Does Gore have some kind of degenerative injury (eg. Tory Holt's knees)?
Frank Gore misses a few games every year because he's an RB, and that's what RBs do. He doesn't have anything degenerative or serious, RBs just tend to get dinged because it's the nature of the position. Gore's missed 5 games over the last 4 years, which is comparable to guys like DeAngelo (3 missed games in 2 years), and Peterson (2 missed games in 3 years). Even if you count his rookie year (where he was buried on the depth chart), Frank Gore has missed fewer games in his 5-year career (7) than Rashard Mendenhall has in his 2 year career (12, plus another game lost to suspension).The reason everyone is always playing the "injury prone" card on Gore is because he had major reconstructive surgeries on his knees (both of them, iirc) in college, and his draft stock plummeted as a result. Still, at this point, he's been running on those knees for 5 years without the slightest issue, so I think we've reached a point where it's safe to say that those surgeries went well.
The days are gone where you can move Gore in solid PPR leagues for the likes of even a guy people are weary of like Sidney Rice.
Man, people are weary of Sidney Rice already? It seems like he just broke out last year!</bad joke>
 
thanks all for the feedback. Actually, someone is looking to sell me Gore. Since I've never had him in a dynasty and maybe once in a re-draft, I never followed his career that closely. More specifically, his injuries and why he seems to miss a few games every year. Does Gore have some kind of degenerative injury (eg. Tory Holt's knees)?
Frank Gore misses a few games every year because he's an RB, and that's what RBs do. He doesn't have anything degenerative or serious, RBs just tend to get dinged because it's the nature of the position. Gore's missed 5 games over the last 4 years, which is comparable to guys like DeAngelo (3 missed games in 2 years), and Peterson (2 missed games in 3 years). Even if you count his rookie year (where he was buried on the depth chart), Frank Gore has missed fewer games in his 5-year career (7) than Rashard Mendenhall has in his 2 year career (12, plus another game lost to suspension).The reason everyone is always playing the "injury prone" card on Gore is because he had major reconstructive surgeries on his knees (both of them, iirc) in college, and his draft stock plummeted as a result. Still, at this point, he's been running on those knees for 5 years without the slightest issue, so I think we've reached a point where it's safe to say that those surgeries went well.
thanks for the feedback!
 

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