[Dynasty] Javorius "Buck" Allen, RB BAL (1 Viewer)

[Papa John's]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

 

[drizzle]

What makes you think David Johnson will get a higher volume than Allen. Bruce Arians hates giving rookies a big workload

 

[BobbyLayne]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.

As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

 

[drizzle]

He ended up Rb7 in my ppr league last week. Not bad for a waiver wire pickup I dunno what you guys were expecting

 

[JuniorNB]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

he had a touchdown and was active in both the running and passing games. That's a pretty damn good game. If you were expecting him to be Priest Holmes in his first start, that's on you.

 

[shadyridr]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

 

[JuniorNB]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

In fairness, he has every reason to be upset that the writers of the top 200 didn't tell us to pick up David Johnson because Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington would both be getting hurt this week. That would have been nice to tell the subscribers.

 

[BobbyLayne]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

RB7 in PPR

They have him RB9 Rest of Season. Hmmm...55 yards against the worst run defense in the NFL.

Up next: SEA, KC, PIT (29th, 30th and 31st FFPA to RBs)

RB9 for the 200 Forward is pretty optimistic. I let someone else tak that chance.

David Johnson is a non sequitur.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

In fairness, he has every reason to be upset that the writers of the top 200 didn't tell us to pick up David Johnson because Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington would both be getting hurt this week. That would have been nice to tell the subscribers.

That's why I pay for the platinum membership.

 

[JuniorNB]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

In fairness, he has every reason to be upset that the writers of the top 200 didn't tell us to pick up David Johnson because Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington would both be getting hurt this week. That would have been nice to tell the subscribers.

That's why I pay for the platinum membership.

You had that info!!??? What do they charge a year for that?

 

[BobbyLayne]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I found the 200 Forward useful the first six weeks, with a few notable anomalies. Of late the outliers have been atrocious. I get it, no need to be an echo chamber of consensus, I do like the occasional non-conformist pick to take a chance and differentiate from other services. But this week's RB9 (full PPR) ranking for Buck had to elicit a few maniacal laughs.As for David Johnson, whole lotta



for many of us who had him rostered but let him go to cover byes. It was a lottery ticket and nobody - no service, no individual manager - could make that call consistently. 100% on those of us who let him go & went a different route after the bye weeks were over.

you're complaining they had him ranked #13 and he finished this week #9.

In fairness, he has every reason to be upset that the writers of the top 200 didn't tell us to pick up David Johnson because Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington would both be getting hurt this week. That would have been nice to tell the subscribers.

That's why I pay for the platinum membership.

You had that info!!??? What do they charge a year for that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw

 

[zftcg]

I was happy with his numbers from last night, but from what I saw West did look like the better runner.

Anyway, I always assumed Allen was a two-week rental at best. Miami D doesn't scare me, but his playoff schedule is brutal.

 

[Papa John's]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

he had a touchdown and was active in both the running and passing games. That's a pretty damn good game. If you were expecting him to be Priest Holmes in his first start, that's on you.

Umm, no. Not expecting that.

Expecting a top 200 ranking tool that makes this guy #17 overall (that's all players in the entire player pool moving forward) to be better than a split load back though. Especially since the practice squad guy is a somewhat "known" commodity who looked much better.

#17 means he is a MUST start moving forward in all RB2 and/or flex leagues. That is all I am lamenting since I'll likely miss out on Johnson now, and he looks much more dynamic and is in a WAY better offense. That is all. I think that's pretty reasonable.

 

[JuniorNB]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

he had a touchdown and was active in both the running and passing games. That's a pretty damn good game. If you were expecting him to be Priest Holmes in his first start, that's on you.

Umm, no. Not expecting that.

Expecting a top 200 ranking tool that makes this guy #17 overall (that's all players in the entire player pool moving forward) to be better than a split load back though. Especially since the practice squad guy is a somewhat "known" commodity who looked much better.

#17 means he is a MUST start moving forward in all RB2 and/or flex leagues. That is all I am lamenting since I'll likely miss out on Johnson now, and he looks much more dynamic and is in a WAY better offense. That is all. I think that's pretty reasonable.

He finished as the number 7 running back this week. Are you upset that the writers of the top 200 weren't told by John Harbaugh that West would get 7 carries? How would you possibly think they would know that Do you think Harbaugh had some secret press conference for fantasy football writers where he shared the game plan? Allen had 85 yards and a touchdown. And 4 receptions if you're in a PPR. He played well. His fantasy numbers were good. Fantasy football is a game of predicting. We all do it multiple times every week. Some of us use other websites and rankings to see if they're thinking along the same lines as we are. Some even choose to pay for advice. But in the end, we all make our own roster moves and set our own lineups. On Twitter, I follow guys like Shefter, Mortenson, and Rapoport. These guys have more NFL insider information than anyone in the world. But even those guys aren't being told by head coaches the exact way their teams are going to distribute touches.

 

[cr8f]

RB's get 1.5 points per reception in one league so he was #7 this week and #9 last week so if he gets enough receptions is worth starting.

 

[cr8f]

I was happy with his numbers from last night, but from what I saw West did look like the better runner.

Anyway, I always assumed Allen was a two-week rental at best. Miami D doesn't scare me, but his playoff schedule is brutal.

He got huge holes, Allen to me is the 3rd down back.

 

[Ladsud]

Was in he in the game on 3rd and passing downs and 2 minute drills? I wasnt able to see any of this game.

 

[SayWhat?]

Was in he in the game on 3rd and passing downs and 2 minute drills? I wasnt able to see any of this game.

No, I don't believe so. It was the fullback, Kyle Juszczyk (and off topic, he could add a vowel or two).

 

[brainee]

Was in he in the game on 3rd and passing downs and 2 minute drills? I wasnt able to see any of this game.

No, I don't believe so. It was the fullback, Kyle Juszczyk (and off topic, he could add a vowel or two).

This is what I saw as well. 2 minute drill Juszczyk was alone in backfield. Passing downs during the game Allen got more action, but still a lot of Juszczyk.

Were there many short yardage situations in the game? I didn't get much of a sense for how Allen stands with those (but get the sense West will be a short yardage TD vulture going forward).

 

[drizzle]

Can't wait for Tuesday for everyone to come in whining about how their waiver wire rb was rb2 instead of rb1 this week

 

[shadyridr]

Can't wait for Tuesday for everyone to come in whining about how their waiver wire rb was rb2 instead of rb1 this week

lol yep

 

[Insein]

Hr had 104 yds receiving. Now he has 97. What happened?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Likely end of game lateral he received were possibly counted as receive yards (and not rush yards)

 

[BobbyLayne]

RB9 going forward in PPR leagues? Yet everything on the site here says RB2.

Which is it FBGs?

Schedule looks brutal.

I just laughed & closed the browser window. Forward 200 has been pretty bad the last few weeks.

Good call, FBGs.

 

[Mister CIA]

RB9 going forward in PPR leagues? Yet everything on the site here says RB2.

Which is it FBGs?

Schedule looks brutal.

I just laughed & closed the browser window. Forward 200 has been pretty bad the last few weeks.

Good call, FBGs.

Good call ME!

 

[Ladsud]

Interesting game for this guy, 29 touches is crazy. Tough game at home week 14 vs Seattle, then at home vs KC and PITT.

 

[ShamrockPride]

12 catches? That's insane in a ppr. But good luck if you're going with him in the PO's, doubt you'll see a similar point total, regardless of rushing vs receiving.

 

[Insein]

With Shaub at QB, I think the catches are repeatable. Safe dump offs to the RB mean no pick 6's.

 

[zftcg]

Yeah, really torn whether I can use him next week. He's been so good, but I could totally see Seattle putting the wood to Schaub and the Ravens.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Interesting game for this guy, 29 touches is crazy. Tough game at home week 14 vs Seattle, then at home vs KC and PITT.

I think he'll be fine actually against KC and Pitt. Next week will be brutal though.

 

[Insein]

Volume though. And unless its a total pasting (less than 150 yds total), the dump off to the back should be a favorite of Schaub when he's fearing for his life. Could have another 6+ catch day.

 

[zftcg]

Volume though. And unless its a total pasting (less than 150 yds total), the dump off to the back should be a favorite of Schaub when he's fearing for his life. Could have another 6+ catch day.

If he's smart he'll put on some fake dreads and pretend to be Richard Sherman. Then Schaub will target him all day.

 

[Papa John's]

So much for that top 200 tool. It had him as a top 13 RB moving forward (#17 overall) last week. Isn't that tool supposed to be "on top" of things like potential monkey wrenches on a team's practice squad. West has been in the Baltimore practice squad since November 10th.

I can do my own research, but I subscribe for things I don't necessarily see. Ugh. Can't believe I used my top waiver priority on this guy based on football guys' rank and will now miss out on David Johnson.

I would like to eat my crow on this one. I get that it was against Miami, but touches are touches and they should continue.

 

[Insein]

This week is going to be really tough the way Seattle has ramped up their playoff mode. But the volume should be there on the dumpoffs and he's been killing it with them.

 

[BigJim®]

I think questions of whether he's a natural 3rd down or potential primary RB are valid. JMHO, my own eyeball impression is Buck could probably benefit from a full off season of NFL weight training. Somewhat surprised seeing him listed at 220. He seems to do a decent job lowering to take on 1st defenders, and has some success bouncing away, but adding a little more muscle would probably help him withstand the rigors of being a primary ball carrier.

 

[Insein]

How's Bucks outlook this week with the possibility of Clausen starting? Schaub isn't great but he's a veteran. Clausen is just terrible.

 

[zftcg]

How's Bucks outlook this week with the possibility of Clausen starting? Schaub isn't great but he's a veteran. Clausen is just terrible.

Schaub is starting.

 

[Insein]

How's Bucks outlook this week with the possibility of Clausen starting? Schaub isn't great but he's a veteran. Clausen is just terrible.

Schaub is starting.

Well that's a relief. That feels weird to say.

 

[tiesface]

How's Bucks outlook this week with the possibility of Clausen starting? Schaub isn't great but he's a veteran. Clausen is just terrible.

Schaub is starting.

Well that's a relief. That feels weird to say.

I'm reading he didn't practice again, and he may not suit up. Becoming increasingly nervous for Buck

Matt Schaub (chest, shoulder) missed practice again Friday.
Schaub hasn't practiced at all this week. According to ESPN Ravens reporter Jeff Zrebiec, there's "increasing likelihood" that Jimmy Clausen will make the start against the Seahawks. It's not a significant downgrade, but the Seahawks D/ST unit would become even more attractive Sunday.Dec 11 - 12:00 PM
Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/16/matt-schaub

 

[zftcg]

How's Bucks outlook this week with the possibility of Clausen starting? Schaub isn't great but he's a veteran. Clausen is just terrible.

Schaub is starting.

Well that's a relief. That feels weird to say.

I'm reading he didn't practice again, and he may not suit up. Becoming increasingly nervous for Buck

Matt Schaub (chest, shoulder) missed practice again Friday.
Schaub hasn't practiced at all this week. According to ESPN Ravens reporter Jeff Zrebiec, there's "increasing likelihood" that Jimmy Clausen will make the start against the Seahawks. It's not a significant downgrade, but the Seahawks D/ST unit would become even more attractive Sunday.Dec 11 - 12:00 PM
Source: Jeff Zrebiec on Twitter

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/16/matt-schaub

Me, too. My alternatives are Woodhead and Moncrief in a 0.5 PPR. I'm inclined to just stick with Buck and hope for lots of dump offs, but I keep thinking back to the last time Clausen faced the Seahawks this year.

[As a side note, doesn't two separate teams being forced to trot out Jimmy Clausen against Seattle violate double jeopardy or something?]

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Having a tough time with this. Deciding whether to put him in over any of Maclin, Hilton, or Draughn.

Match-up is really tough obviously, and I think that if Clausen starts, Allen's gotta sit.

So much volume though.

 

[tankfrank11]

Not seeing much difference between the two qbs as to Buck's value. A dump off is a dump off. Should we compare the dump off completion percentage between Schaub and Clausen? In fact I might expect a few more dump offs from Clausen.

 

[drizzle]

Forte got 8 catches in week 17 last year from Clausen

 

[zftcg]

Forte got 8 catches in week 17 last year from Clausen

Clausen had 9 completions total Week 3 this year vs. the Seahawks. None to Forte.

 

[Insein]

Not seeing much difference between the two qbs as to Buck's value. A dump off is a dump off. Should we compare the dump off completion percentage between Schaub and Clausen? In fact I might expect a few more dump offs from Clausen.

One is an NFL QB that has lived by the dump off. He knows how to throw it and its his goto pass. The other can barely be called an NFL QB.

Looking at the Bears vs Seahawks week 3 game with Clausen, the Bears had 146 total yards of offense. He went 9/17 for 63 yds. I'm not expecting much.

 

[drizzle]

Forte got 8 catches in week 17 last year from Clausen

Clausen had 9 completions total Week 3 this year vs. the Seahawks. None to Forte.

Yep

 

[zftcg]

Not seeing much difference between the two qbs as to Buck's value. A dump off is a dump off. Should we compare the dump off completion percentage between Schaub and Clausen? In fact I might expect a few more dump offs from Clausen.

One is an NFL QB that has lived by the dump off. He knows how to throw it and its his goto pass. The other can barely be called an NFL QB.

Looking at the Bears vs Seahawks week 3 game with Clausen, the Bears had 146 total yards of offense. He went 9/17 for 63 yds. I'm not expecting much.

I just had a flashback to another Clausen Steamer. In 2010, Panthers faced the Steelers in Week 16. I remember because my opponent had the Pittsburgh D, and it was the Thursday night game. I kept waiting for Clausen to get something, anything, going to at least avoid the shutout and knock my opponent down a few points. Nope. Nada. Zilch.

ETA: I guess my memory was faulty, because they did avoid the shutout. Kasay hit a FG in the 4th quarter to make it 27-3.

 

[tankfrank11]

Agree with everything previously stated. Nobody really expected much from S. Draughn starting his first game with B.Gabbert(first game). He posted fair but not great numbers. Expecting the same from an already semi-proven B.Allen. All depends on who you have. I'll be okay with 10 for 40 and 6 rec for 40.

 

[Insein]

Agree with everything previously stated. Nobody really expected much from S. Draughn starting his first game with B.Gabbert(first game). He posted fair but not great numbers. Expecting the same from an already semi-proven B.Allen. All depends on who you have. I'll be okay with 10 for 40 and 6 rec for 40.

That might be asking too much with Clausen against Seattle.

 

[Ladsud]

Starting him over D Murray, cause Murray sucks this year. Go Buck!