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Dynasty Rookie drafts... (1 Viewer)
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DeadManPosting
Footballguy
i got one in june, ill post it then
beto
Footballguy
12 teamer, 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, began 4-261.1- RB Steven Jackson1.2- WR Roy Williams1.3- RB Kevin Jones1.4- TE Kellen Winslow II1.5- RB Tatum Bell1.6- RB Julius Jones1.7- WR Larry Fitzgerald1.8- WR Reggie Williams1.9- RB Chris Perry1.10- WR Lee Evans1.11- QB Eli Manning1.12- RB Cedric Cobbs---------------------------------2.1- WR Rashaun Woods 2.2- RB Greg Jones2.3- TE Ben Troupe2.4- QB Ben Roth@#$@#$#@$2.5- WR Michael Clayton2.6- Losman2.7- Rivers2.8- Watson2.9- Jenkins2.10- Henderson2.11- Watts2.12- Turner
Goontoe
Footballguy
So far:
1.1- RB Kevin Jones
1.2- RB Steven Jackson
1.3- WR Larry Fitzgerald
1.4- RB Tatum Bell
1.5- RB Julius Jones
1.6- RB Chris Perry
1.7- WR Roy Williams
1.8- QB Eli Manning
http://ffwarroom.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000362.html
1.1- RB Kevin Jones
1.2- RB Steven Jackson
1.3- WR Larry Fitzgerald
1.4- RB Tatum Bell
1.5- RB Julius Jones
1.6- RB Chris Perry
1.7- WR Roy Williams
1.8- QB Eli Manning
http://ffwarroom.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000362.html
We are through two round already and here are the results so far. Keep in mind that this is a 10 team league that starts two QB's.1 Kevin Jones2 Eli Manning3 Julius Jones4 Steven Jackson5 Kellen Winslow6 Roy Williams7 Larry Fitzgerald8 Reggie Williams9 Tatum Bell10 Michael Jenkins11 Ben Roethlisberger12 Rashaun Woods13 Phillip Rivers14 Chris Perry15 Greg Jones16 Lee Evans17 Ben Troupe18 Michael Clayton19 J.P. Losman20 Cedric Cobbs
Spike
Footballguy
Zealots League (Z14) draftIt's an IDP league. 53 man rosters. Start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1PK/1 offensive flex on offense; start 2DL/2LB/2DB/2 defensive flex on defense (defensive flex may be a DL, LB or DB, but no position have more than 3 starters).1.01 Patriots - Kevin Jones, RB Detroit Lions 1.02 Raiders - Steven Jackson, RB St Louis Rams1.03 Colts - Kellen Winslow, TE Cleveland Browns1.04 Bears - Larry Fitzgerald, WR Arizona Cardinals1.05 Panthers - Roy Williams, WR Detroit Lions1.06 Bills - Tatum Bell, RB, Denver Broncos1.07 Panthers - Chris Perry, RB, Cincinnati Bengals1.08 Jaguars - Julius Jones, RB, Dallas Cowboys1.09 Texans - Eli Manning, QB, New York Giants1.10 Jaguars - Phillip Rivers, QB, San Diego Chargers 1.11 49’ers - Reggie Williams, WR, Jacksonville Jaguars1.12 Browns - Rashaun Woods, WR, San Francisco 49'ers2.01 Browns - Lee Evans, WR, Buffalo Bills2.02 49’ers - Michael Clayton, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers2.03 Patriots - Cedric Cobbs, RB, New England Patriots2.04 Patriots - Sean Taylor, DB, Washington Redskins2.05 Packers - Jonathan Vilma, LB, New York Jets2.06 Eagles - Will Smith, DE, New Orleans Saints2.07- 2.08- 2.09- 2.10- 2.11- 2.12-
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I find this interesting so far....Based on the Dynasty Rookie Rankings that were posted a short while ago and the averages of those rankings posted by Britney Spears, the top 4 were:Kevin JonesJulius JonesTatum BellSteven JacksonHowever, when I look at the drafts posted so far, Bell has only been taken in the top 4 once and dropped to 1.09 in one draft.So, the people ranking Bell at #2 or #3 must not be drafting yet or there is a lot of variation in what people really think about Bell.I'll post my rookie drafts as well once they get started in the next couple of weeks. Love the thread!! 
VICK-IS-GOD
Footballguy
Or the people who were ranking them aren't in dynasty leagues, which would make sense. Some of those rankings were bizarre and couldn't have been made by people in real dynasty leagues.
Here is another one. I am not in this league so do not know the req/scoring/etc... but they are pretty far along.1.01 - Pimpin' ProphetzKevin Jones, RB, DET1.02 - ILUVBEERSteven Jackson, RB, STL1.03 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersJulius Jones, RB, DAL1.04 - Canadian Trade BaitLarry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI1.05 - Canadian Trade BaitTatum Bell, RB, DEN1.06 - Pimpin' ProphetzKellen Winslow Jr., TE, CLE1.07 - Canadian Trade BaitRoy Williams, WR, DET1.08 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersReggie Williams, WR, JAC1.09 - B.C. LightningChris Perry, RB, CIN1.10 - Coyote 13Rashaun Woods, WR, SFO1.11 - Karen's NightmareCedric Cobbs, RB, NEP1.12 - B.C. LightningEli Manning, QB, NYG1.13 - Colorado e.ColiPhilip Rivers, QB, SDC1.14 - Colorado e.ColiBen Roethlisberger, QB, PIT 2.01 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersLee Evans, WR, BUF2.02 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersGreg Jones, RB, JAC2.03 - Karen's NightmareJ.P. Losman, QB, BUF2.04 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersMichael Clayton, WR, TBB2.05 - Shawnee WILDBen Troupe, TE, TEN2.06 - Canadian Trade BaitBen Watson, TE, NEP2.07 - HurricanesMichael Jenkins, WR, ATL2.08 - ILUVBEERDevery Henderson, WR, NOS2.09 - Velvet Elvis Devard Darling, WR, BAL2.10 - Coyote 13Michael Turner, RB, SDC2.11 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersDerrick Hamilton, WR, SFO2.12 - Big Kahuna BurgerChris Cooley, TE, WAS2.13 - Colorado e.Coli Keary Colbert, WR, CAR2.14 - River's Edge Motivational SpeakersTroy Fleming, RB, TEN3.01 - Karen's NightmareDarius Watts, WR, DEN3.02 - Karen's NightmareLuke McCown, QB, CLE3.03 - Houston Storm O'FireweaselsBernard Berrian, WR, CHI 3.04 - Tampa Bay GladiatorsErnest Wilford, WR, JAC3.05 - Tampa Bay GladiatorsMewelde Moore, RB, MIN3.06 - Canadian Trade BaitMatt Schaub, QB, ATL 3.07 - Karen's NightmareSamie Parker, WR, KCC3.08 - Houston Storm O'FirweaselsJeff Smoker, QB, STL3.09 - Tampa Bay Gladiators Brandon Miree, RB, DEN3.10 - Coyote 13Sean Ryan, TE, DAL3.11 - Karen's NightmareCarlos Francis, WR, OAK3.12 - Colorado e.ColiAdimchinobe Echemandu, RB, CLE
humans_being
Footballguy
reg, where did you find that?
Brintey Spears
Footballguy
I'll gladly compile these numbers as well. I think there is a variance due to the fact that people SAY they would draft a person, but sometimes in the moment, you make different choices. I'm sure some people have trouble passing on big names, or high NFL draft picks.Also in real drafts, peoples needs dictate a lot more than in simply ranking the players.I'll start adding these up tomorrow.I find this interesting so far....Based on the Dynasty Rookie Rankings that were posted a short while ago and the averages of those rankings posted by Britney Spears, the top 4 were:Kevin JonesJulius JonesTatum BellSteven JacksonHowever, when I look at the drafts posted so far, Bell has only been taken in the top 4 once and dropped to 1.09 in one draft.So, the people ranking Bell at #2 or #3 must not be drafting yet or there is a lot of variation in what people really think about Bell.I'll post my rookie drafts as well once they get started in the next couple of weeks. Love the thread!!
Brintey Spears
Footballguy
I started adding up all the non-IDP ones. Mainly because there are more non-IDP ones, and mixing the two together would make a strange set.I'll keep adding them (non-IDP drafts) as I go. If anyone wants the spreadsheet as it stands, just PM me. But I will be adding them as they appear.
humans_being
Footballguy
Wow, Tatum Bell @ #1.
humans_being
Footballguy
I know, i'm in that league.
Just wondered how you ran into it.This is a 12 team league. Many of the picks have been traded back and forth. The draft is two rounds. 18 player roster limit. 6 points for TD's, 1 point per reception for all players, 1 point per 10 yards receiving or rushing, 1 point per 20 yards passing.Required to start 1 QB, 1-3 RB's and 2-4 WR's (total of 5 at RB/WR), 1 TE, 1 Kicker, 1 Defense.1. Flying Donkeys--Kevin Jones2. Flying Donkeys--Julius Jones3. BWBombers--Roy Williams4. Flying Donkeys--Larry Fitzgerald5. Red Dogs--Kellen Winslow6. Mad Cows--Tatum Bell7. Flying Donkeys--Reggie Williams8. Shark Tank--Stephen Jackson9. Mad Cows--Rashaun Woods10. Denton Destructos--Lee Evans11. Flying Donkeys--Chris Perry12. Kiss My Pass--Michael Clayton13. Kiss My Pass--Eli Manning14. Denton Destructos--Philip Rivers15. BWBombers--Greg Jones16. Mad Cows--Cedric Cobbs17. Red Dogs--Ben Roethlisberger18. Kiss My Pass--Pass19. Manchester Naked Mole Rats--Michael Jenkins20. Shark Tank--Pass21. Shark Tank--Pass22. Red Dogs--Pass23. Kiss My Pass--Pass24. Dallas Destroyers****on the clock
This is a 10 team league. Many of the picks have been traded back and forth. The draft is three rounds. 18 player roster limit. 6 points for TD's, 1 point per reception for all players, 1 point per 10 yards receiving or rushing, 1 point per 20 yards passing.Required to start 1 QB, 1-3 RB's and 2-4 WR's (total of 5 at RB/WR), 1 TE, 1 Kicker, 1 Defense.1. Demons--Kevin Jones2. Demons--Julius Jones3. Demons--Larry Fitzgerald4. Norwalk--Roy Williams5. Cowboys--Tatum Bell6. Cowboys--Kellen Winslow7. Marauders--Stephen Jackson8. Shark Tank--Reggie Williams9. Supp. Draft-Hollings10. Cowboys--Greg Jones11. Marauders--Lee Evans12. Demons--Rashaun Woods13. Marauders--Chris Perry14. Norwalk--Eli Manning15. RoadRagers--Michael Clayton16. RoadRagers--Michael Jenkins17. Cowboys--Cedric Cobbs18. Shark Tank--Ben Roethlisberger19. Shark Tank--Philip Rivers20. Rednecks--Pass21. Maniacs--Keary Colbert22. Shark Tank--Ben Watson23. Maniacs--Devery Henderson24. Norwalk--Darius Watts25. Cowboys--Ben Troupe26. RoadRagers****on the clock27. Rednecks--Pass28. Shark Tank29. Maniacs30. Rednecks--Pass
That was actually my pick.I already have Priest Holmes, Clinton Portis, Chris Brown, Larry Johnson, and Quentin Griffin on my roster.So, I figured if I snatched Bell up it would give me possibly 2/3 of the Denver RB situation and hopefully produce another starting RB for me in the next 1-2 years.Plus, I am a Denver fanWow, Tatum Bell @ #1.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Our League voted to include both Mike Williams and Maurice Clarett in the Rookie Draft. If both players are disallowed entry via the Supplemental Draft, the respective owner will maintain ownership indefinitely.1.1 - RB, Kevin Jones, Lions1.2 - QB, Eli Manning, Giants1.3 - RB, Tatum Bell, Broncos1.4 - WR, Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals1.5 - RB, Steven Jackson, Rams1.6 - RB, Julius Jones, Cowboys1.7 - TE, Kellen Winslow Jr, Browns1.8 - WR, Roy Williams, Lions1.9 - WR, Rashaun Woods, 49ers1.10- RB, Chris Perry, Bengals1.11- WR, Reggie Williams, Jaguars1.12- WR, Mike Williams, ???2.1 - DB, Sean Taylor, Redskins2.2 - RB, Greg Jones, Jaguars2.3 - WR, Michael Jenkins, Falcons2.4 - WR Lee Evens, Bills2.5 - WR, Michael Clayton, Bucs2.6 - QB, Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers 2.7 - QB, Philip Rivers, Chargers2.8 - ???Our scoring system is pretty standard for an IDP League. Opinions on the good and bad picks!?!? Thanks.Edit to remove team names.
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Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I cannot believe how highly Fitzgerald is going. I know the guy could be special, but lets go consider the following...Since 1998, the running backs taken in the first 2 rounds of the NFL draft have justified a roster spot - meaning they've made a meaningful contribution - 59% of the time, IIRC. Also, their contribution is usually started in the first 2 years of play. I posted it in detail in another thread. THe incidence of "busts" is slim, applying to Ennis, Hanspard, J.Johnson and J. Montgomery, IIRC.The top 2 WRs taken each year since 1997?97: Ike Hilliard (7), Yatil Green (15)98: Kevin Dyson (16), Randy Moss (21) 99: Torry Holt (6), David Boston (8)00: Peter Warrick (4), PLaxico Burress (8)01: David Terrell (8), Koren Robinson (9)02: Donte Stallworth (13), Asley Lelie (19)With the exception of Moss and Holt who are bona-fied studs, who else on this list would you have been glad to take ahead of a top-flight RB prospect? I know Fitz could be special, but thats what was said about ALL of these guys when they were drafted.Colin
humans_being
Footballguy
Colin, your not just mad because he's constantly going ahead of Roy are you?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
No, I'm actually salivating at my 1.05 Zealots pick being Julius Jones or Tatum Bell instead of Chris Perry. There are SO MANY Wrs that can contribute in the NFL, but a very limited number of RBs. While I too like to have guys on my team that I like, the point is to win. I'll gladly take my chances with Eddie Kennison types that are solid but hardly studs and let my running backs carry me, as opposed to hoping my stud WRs pan out while a patchwork of guys like Bettis and A-Train try to log me some points.:RBsAreMoreValuableAlways:Colin
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'll again echo Colin's comments (since I also have 1.5). In my keeper league, two of the owners ahead of me only kept two WRs (we start three), but kept four and five RBs, respectively (we start two). So they'll feel some pressure to take Fitz or Roy or Kellen .. and that's great! I, too, look forward to Jones or Bell, if not Jackson, falling to 1.5.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
I think we need to tailor the RB/WR comparison for this year's extraordinary strong WR class. Fitz, Roy, and Reggie were Top-10 picks. The only WR's taken with the first 10 picks since '98 are:HilliardHoltBostonWarrickBurressKRobTerrellOf these seven WR's, it would be fair to say that only Terrell is currently a bust. Hilliard, Boston, and Warrick have certainly disappointed at times, but they are far from being bust. Now...if we look at the 1st-round RB's since '98, the list has some glaring surprises:Josh AveryRobert EdwardsFred TaylorCurtis EnisRicky WilliamsEdgeMichael BennettMcAllisterLTCanidateDayneShaun AlexanderJamal LewisThomas JonesI think it would be fair to say that approx 57% (8 out of 14) of the 1st-round RB's have actually became productive (Taylor, Ricky, Edge, Bennett, McAllister, LT, Alexander, Jamal). More importantly, the "bust" totals were higher than the Top-10 WR's (Avery, Edwards, Enis, Canidate, Dayne, Thomas Jones???).This is why I would personally draft Fitz, Roy, and even Reggie somewhat high (historically speaking...of course).
pricklypete
Footballguy
I gotta agree with Herd. I am sitting with back to back picks (either 5-6 or 6-7, don't remember off hand) and am loving the way the NFL draft turned out. I will be able to draft Winslow and a RB.
loqutis
Footballguy
My thought is you need to make your first round pick count. Seems to me there are a lot of owners on this boards REACHING for the next Faulk and passing on more stable solid players simply because they're not RBs. an example from last year would be Leftwich. This guy was passed on for guys like Mussa Smith and Justin Fargus. IMO that's crazy.This years candidate appears to be Manning. He's being passed up for guys like Tatum Bell and Greg JonesWith gems you can find in deeper in your draft and on the waiver wire i see no need to Gamble with your first round selection
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Good points by you and the Weiner.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I disagree. Terrell is a bust, Hilliard has been pedestrian at best (and thats when he's not hurt), Warrick finally has posted 1 good year after 3 years of "blah" and he likely won't be the solid #2 there much longer, and while Boston has had some good seasons, he is hardly a FF WR1, which would be the point of draft him (and the others) so highly in dynasty drafts. Holt and Moss are only guys that are solid WR1s. I'm not saying Larry Fitzgerald or Roy or Reggie won't be really good WRs, maybe even great WRs. I am saying I don't think its worth picking a WR that highly regardless of who it is.Colin
ExtraPoint
Footballguy
I think Manning is turning out a steal in most of these drafts. I wont complain though. I might have a chance at him I never expected. I'm glad Eli told the Chargers he didnt want to play there and that the Chargers tried to humiliate him. Like so many other players who get negative pub, it has made him undervalued.Other than Manning and Big Ben I'm not surprised much by any of these drafts. The second round RBs went to better opportunities than the first round RBs making all of them a toss up. The only other thing that surprises me is how early the run is starting on the second tier of wide receivers. Its an awefully big tier this year. Anybody can get a decent WR prospect with their second round rookie pick. People are jumping the gun on WRs and its not just Fitz or Roy.
Brintey Spears
Footballguy
Ok, I think I have all the current non-IDP drafts added. Here are the drafts (by poster) that I have added. SEVERAL of these are incomplete. However, they still have picks made, and those picks are added in.Drafts added by poster name:BetoRegCSHBluesBomberReg II (Jaws)Demon (10 team)Demon II (12 team)Tommy3000I'm still looking for more data though, so keep adding these on. Also, if you all feel like helping me, it's nuch easier if the actual pick number (#16 overall, etc) is listed rather than the round/pick (2.6 etc).Also, those of you who drafted, please continue to fill in picks. It helps if you post like Reg did so I know you added picks to them. If anyone ever needs the spreadsheet, just PM me. I'm gonna keep adding to it though.
Spike
Footballguy
In the Zealot's rookie draft I'm in the midst of (Z14), both Julius Jones and Tatum Bell were available at 1.05.Here's what it's been:1.01 Patriots - Kevin Jones, RB Detroit Lions 1.02 Raiders - Steven Jackson, RB St Louis Rams1.03 Colts - Kellen Winslow, TE Cleveland Browns1.04 Bears - Larry Fitzgerald, WR Arizona Cardinals1.05 Panthers - Roy Williams, WR Detroit Lions1.06 Bills - Tatum Bell, RB, Denver Broncos1.07 Panthers - Chris Perry, RB, Cincinnati Bengals1.08 Jaguars - Julius Jones, RB, Dallas Cowboys
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EastBayFunk
Footballguy
I agree that it might be unwise to pass up a top RB for a WR. If I had an early pick I would take Kevin Jones, Tatum Bell, or Julius Jones over any of the WR's in the draft. The reasoning is that there will still be solid WR prospects on the board in the second round while the RB crop will have been thoroughly picked over.
Brintey Spears
Footballguy
Added these.
Foosball God
Foos
14 team IDP
ROUND 1
1)(1) Foosball God - Kevin Jones, RB, DET
2)(2) Bronco Billy (from TTAC thru SM) - Steven Jackson, RB, STL
3)(3) {Forfeit by SM for Hollings - 2003 Supp. Draft}
4)(4) Ditkaless Wonders - Julius Jones, RB, DAL
5)(5) Brick City Blaze - Eli Manning, QB, NYG
6)(6) Darky - Larry Fitzgerald, WR, AZ
7)(7) Ditkaless Wonders (from GM) - Tatum Bell, RB, DEN
8)(8) House of Pain - Roy Williams, WR, DET
9)(9) Foosball God (from Gloco) - Chris Perry, RB, CIN
10)(10) Beakerpunk
11)(11) Sideline Mercenary (from Beer30)
12)(12) Sideline Mercenary (from Bronco Billy)
13)(13) De-Cleater
14)(14) Defector/Merlin
Updated. :foos:
ROUND 1
1)(1) Foosball God - Kevin Jones, RB, DET
2)(2) Bronco Billy (from TTAC thru SM) - Steven Jackson, RB, STL
3)(3) {Forfeit by SM for Hollings - 2003 Supp. Draft}
4)(4) Ditkaless Wonders - Julius Jones, RB, DAL
5)(5) Brick City Blaze - Eli Manning, QB, NYG
6)(6) Darky - Larry Fitzgerald, WR, AZ
7)(7) Ditkaless Wonders (from GM) - Tatum Bell, RB, DEN
8)(8) House of Pain - Roy Williams, WR, DET
9)(9) Foosball God (from Gloco) - Chris Perry, RB, CIN
10)(10) Beakerpunk
11)(11) Sideline Mercenary (from Beer30)
12)(12) Sideline Mercenary (from Bronco Billy)
13)(13) De-Cleater
14)(14) Defector/Merlin
Updated. :foos:
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krazydude51
Footballguy
1.08 is an interesting spot to sit at. That's where I am now, so I am running through a bunch of dilemas. I have no need for TE (Shockey), but I do have a need for RB, but also a need for WR3/WR4 (WR1 and WR2 set, 3rd is questionable). I also have Culpepper at QB.So as I see the draft:Kevin JonesTatum BellJulius JonesStephen JacksonChris Perry----------------------Eli Manning----------------------Larry FitzgeraldRoy WilliamsReggie WilliamsLee EvansRashaun Woods----------------------Kellen WinslowI would love to get one of the top 4 RBs, but it highly doubtful that one will slip to the 8th spot. Highly likely that Perry falls to me at 8, but if he doesn't, I can take a WR (most likely Reggie Williams) or Eli Manning if he falls.So here's my question:Who's a better pick (bear in mind I have Culpepper, Ramsey, Q.Carter)Manning? Perry if he drops? One of the Elite 2 WRs? WRs past the top two (Fitz, Roy).
EastBayFunk
Footballguy
Personally, I'd go with Manning or a WR because I'm really not sold on Perry's prospects.
Zealots Field 12:
1. Bears - RB Kevin Jones - DET
2. Bengals - RB Steven Jackson - STL
3. Chiefs - WR Larry Fitzgerald - ARZ
4. Rams - RB Tatum Bell - DEN
5. Lions - RB Julius Jones - DAL
6. Colts - RB Chris Perry - CIN
7. Raiders - WR Roy Williams - DET (yeah, it sucked having to pick him at #7)
8. Saints - WR Reggie Williams - JAC
9. Dolphins - QB Eli Manning - NYG
10. Jaguars - QB Ben Roethlisberger - PIT
11. on the clock
12.
So far, at least, no pick trades which affect the first round, so we should get a pretty fair idea of a "normal" draft.
1. Bears - RB Kevin Jones - DET
2. Bengals - RB Steven Jackson - STL
3. Chiefs - WR Larry Fitzgerald - ARZ
4. Rams - RB Tatum Bell - DEN
5. Lions - RB Julius Jones - DAL
6. Colts - RB Chris Perry - CIN
7. Raiders - WR Roy Williams - DET (yeah, it sucked having to pick him at #7)
8. Saints - WR Reggie Williams - JAC
9. Dolphins - QB Eli Manning - NYG
10. Jaguars - QB Ben Roethlisberger - PIT
11. on the clock
12.
So far, at least, no pick trades which affect the first round, so we should get a pretty fair idea of a "normal" draft.
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