DYNASTY: Top 2013 College Prospects (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

Any thoughts on Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA?Blew up today with 214/3 against Rice.

Never been too high on him, tbh. Good college player, but probably not a great NFL prospect.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Lots of big games in the first week. Hard to say what any of it means when so many of these big programs are playing creampuffs to open the season. You don't learn a lot about a player when he's beating up on Alcorn State. I watched the Cal/Nevada game. Keenan Allen was basically Cal's whole offense. He made a lot of big plays for them. He is tall and athletic, but maybe not the fastest guy around. The lack of sheer speed is something that could keep him out of the top 15 in the draft depending on whether or not teams are willing to overlook it. He is a nice player, but doesn't really strike me as a can't-miss #1 NFL WR worthy of a top 10 draft pick. Caught a little bit of USC/Hawaii. Robert Woods and Marqise Lee looked good. Lee missed a couple catchable balls, but overall appears to be the slightly better athlete of the two. I think he could be a pretty big time prospect come 2014. USC is gonna be really hard to beat this year. I think they have a good chance to play for the national championship based on the talent they have at their disposal. Silas Redd also looked good for them, Barkley was on the money, and their D looks pretty loaded. Even their tight ends are scary. I set my DVR to record the Georgia/Buffalo game so I could see how Branden Oliver looked against a superior opponent, but for some reason it didn't record. Judging by the box score, he was bottled up for most of the game apart from a couple big carries. Still finished with 100+ yards, albeit at only 3.7 YPC. Not terrible given the talent gap between Buffalo and Georgia.

good stuff man

 

[MAC_32]

Cordarrelle Patterson

Not a bad debut

between him and hunter, the vols should be quite a show this season... imagine if they still had rogers.

Bray is a top 10 pick in the NFL draft. This kid has a great arm. He's a guy I've liked since last year and this game vs. NC State is only verifying things more. I think he's the #2 QB behind Barkely.

He has a lot of idiot questions to overcome first, probably smart to stay in school through 2013 and make sure to get through offseason 2013 without doing anything dumb.I think Geno is this year's #2 QB.

 

[Xue]

Lots of big games in the first week. Hard to say what any of it means when so many of these big programs are playing creampuffs to open the season. You don't learn a lot about a player when he's beating up on Alcorn State. I watched the Cal/Nevada game. Keenan Allen was basically Cal's whole offense. He made a lot of big plays for them. He is tall and athletic, but maybe not the fastest guy around. The lack of sheer speed is something that could keep him out of the top 15 in the draft depending on whether or not teams are willing to overlook it. He is a nice player, but doesn't really strike me as a can't-miss #1 NFL WR worthy of a top 10 draft pick. Caught a little bit of USC/Hawaii. Robert Woods and Marqise Lee looked good. Lee missed a couple catchable balls, but overall appears to be the slightly better athlete of the two. I think he could be a pretty big time prospect come 2014. USC is gonna be really hard to beat this year. I think they have a good chance to play for the national championship based on the talent they have at their disposal. Silas Redd also looked good for them, Barkley was on the money, and their D looks pretty loaded. Even their tight ends are scary. I set my DVR to record the Georgia/Buffalo game so I could see how Branden Oliver looked against a superior opponent, but for some reason it didn't record. Judging by the box score, he was bottled up for most of the game apart from a couple big carries. Still finished with 100+ yards, albeit at only 3.7 YPC. Not terrible given the talent gap between Buffalo and Georgia.

Buffalo ran too much up the middle. That's not gonna work vs an SEC line. I would have liked Oliver to break more runs to the outside when the middle is clogged.

 

[doowain]

TJ Yeldon!

My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

 

[BigTex]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

 

[BeTheMatch]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

 

[Manster]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

 

[offdee]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

Lots of good true frosh RBs....Duke Johnson (Miami) and Todd Gurley (Georgia) both looked beastly yesterday.

 

[gump]

Not for '13.....but keep an eye on incoming Alabama freshman TJ Yeldon.The 6'2", 200-pound RB was a top 15 recruit....lit up the spring game this weekend with 200 total yards (100 receiving)....and has been getting rave reviews from Saban, who called him his only 'complete back'.

Nice start....

 

[DeCleater]

Marcus Mariota QB Oregon is the next RG3 only better. 6'4" fast and accurate and a FRESHMAN. Barkley is the second best QB in his own conference.

 

[werdnoynek]

Marcus Mariota QB Oregon is the next RG3 only better. 6'4" fast and accurate and a FRESHMAN. Barkley is the second best QB in his own conference.

very impressive start to what should be an exciting career.

 

[jurb26]

Marcus Mariota QB Oregon is the next RG3 only better. 6'4" fast and accurate and a FRESHMAN. Barkley is the second best QB in his own conference.

very impressive start to what should be an exciting career.

Perhaps we could wait for him to face some real competition before going overboard?

 

[EBF]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

I didn't want to be the one to say it...

 

[gump]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

I didn't want to be the one to say it...

He is 6'2". During his recruitment, his pad level was praised for his size.

 

[SoBeDad]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

Lots of good true frosh RBs....Duke Johnson (Miami) and Todd Gurley (Georgia) both looked beastly yesterday.

Duke is being compared to Chris Johnson and he looked like it yesterday. We'll see when he faces better competition than BC.

 

[jurb26]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

I didn't want to be the one to say it...

He is 6'2". During his recruitment, his pad level was praised for his size.

He runs with exceptional foot speed and turnover. His short choppy steps make it appear odd as he runs IMO. It is also what creates his rare explosive burst and quickness though. He looks like a future stud to me. A guy that big, at only 18, having that burst is pretty frightening.

 

[Steed]

Anyone remember a rb by the name of Harvey Williams that played for kc? He had a giraffe neck like Yeldon does. That's why he looks ackward running. Morton Hankstoo.

 

[werdnoynek]

Anyone remember a rb by the name of Harvey Williams that played for kc? He had a giraffe neck like Yeldon does. That's why he looks ackward running. Morton Hankstoo.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

I didn't want to be the one to say it...

He is 6'2". During his recruitment, his pad level was praised for his size.

He runs with exceptional foot speed and turnover. His short choppy steps make it appear odd as he runs IMO. It is also what creates his rare explosive burst and quickness though. He looks like a future stud to me. A guy that big, at only 18, having that burst is pretty frightening.

Maybe, but a lot of NFL RBs have short choppy steps. I think it's more the fact that he's really tall and slim for a RB that makes him look weird.

 

[EBF]

I only watched a couple of his carries, but he looked a bit like James Starks in terms of build and style. I tend to favor the squatty Michael Dyer/Branden Oliver/Trent Richardson types over taller, skinnier backs. I'll definitely keep an eye on the kid though. He must be talented to be playing for Alabama as a true freshman, and he's still young. Peterson was not the stockiest back around, but he was still a great prospect and an elite pro player.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I only watched a couple of his carries, but he looked a bit like James Starks in terms of build and style. I tend to favor the squatty Michael Dyer/Branden Oliver/Trent Richardson types over taller, skinnier backs. I'll definitely keep an eye on the kid though. He must be talented to be playing for Alabama as a true freshman, and he's still young. Peterson was not the stockiest back around, but he was still a great prospect and an elite pro player.

He doesn't lower his shoulders when tacklers come near him. I'm okay with upright runners, but they have to protect themselves...he doesn't.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

Clemson RB Andre Ellington impressed me, wasn't as high on him last year as most people were. Looked bigger than listed size of 5'9" and 190. Surprised he wasn't more involved in the passing game against Auburn, since Watkins didn't play. Could see him ending up as the #1 RB taken in the 2013 draft.

 

[BigTex]

Clemson RB Andre Ellington impressed me, wasn't as high on him last year as most people were. Looked bigger than listed size of 5'9" and 190. Surprised he wasn't more involved in the passing game against Auburn, since Watkins didn't play. Could see him ending up as the #1 RB taken in the 2013 draft.

I've always liked Ellington but his measurements will be held against him. If healthy Marcus Lattimore will be the 1st RB taken next year.....if he declares.

 

[EBF]

If healthy Marcus Lattimore will be the 1st RB taken next year.....if he declares.

I think he's the favorite right now. I think Michael Dyer is the wild card of this year's RB class. He has been kicked out of two programs and will not be playing football this season, but I felt after his freshman year that he was a future first round pick and a better NFL prospect than Lattimore. IF he can get his head on straight and apply himself then I still think he has a bright future.

I've acquired him in two of my dev leagues since he got booted off the Arkansas State team. After seeing players like Lynch, Marshall, and Holmes rebound after various off-field issues, I guess I feel like this could be the buy-low moment for Dyer. High risk, but also high reward. Could be worth a shot if he's available in your dev leagues. The talent is there. The kid just needs to put in the work.

 

[Drezden]

What you think about Knile Davis first game ? Anybody get a chance to watch whole game and not just a highlights ?

 

[EBF]

Extended highlights from the USC/Hawaii game:

Lee is such a beast. Reminds me of a more athletic Greg Jennings.

 

[cstu]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Thought I'd get to see more of Lacy but Yeldon is a STUD and it won't be long before ESPN call him.....wait for it....the next Adrian Peterson........LOL!!

So this isn't exactly a scientific analysis or anything, but Yeldon just runs weird. He's upright, but it's more than that. I don't know what it is, but I don't like it!

I didn't want to be the one to say it...

He is 6'2". During his recruitment, his pad level was praised for his size.

He runs with exceptional foot speed and turnover. His short choppy steps make it appear odd as he runs IMO. It is also what creates his rare explosive burst and quickness though. He looks like a future stud to me. A guy that big, at only 18, having that burst is pretty frightening.

Much like Peterson, IMO. Peterson looked a little thicker than Yeldon, but I don't think he weighed much over 200 as a freshman. Give Yeldon a few years of weight training and he'll be around 215 at draft time.

 

[jurb26]

TJ Yeldon!My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

Lots of good true frosh RBs....Duke Johnson (Miami) and Todd Gurley (Georgia) both looked beastly yesterday.

Duke is being compared to Chris Johnson and he looked like it yesterday. We'll see when he faces better competition than BC.

I went back and watched all of D. Johnson's touches this morning... Wow! This is why scouting these high school players is such an crap shoot. How does this guy grade out as the number 10, yes TEN, RB in the country. He is phenomenal. I think I like him more than Yeldon.

 

[BigTex]

TJ Yeldon!

My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

Lots of good true frosh RBs....Duke Johnson (Miami) and Todd Gurley (Georgia) both looked beastly yesterday.

Duke is being compared to Chris Johnson and he looked like it yesterday. We'll see when he faces better competition than BC.

I went back and watched all of D. Johnson's touches this morning... Wow! This is why scouting these high school players is such an crap shoot. How does this guy grade out as the number 10, yes TEN, RB in the country. He is phenomenal. I think I like him more than Yeldon.

Wow

 

[Faust]

Cory McCartney>HEISMAN WATCH

 

[Faust]

NFL draft risers, sliders: Week 1 (Tony Pauline)

 

[Faust]

Week One Rewind -- Geno Smith steals the show

 

[Faust]

Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame tight end, stands out in college Week 1

 

[gump]

Yeldon's 11 carries and 1 catch:

 

[EBF]

Yeldon's 11 carries and 1 catch:

He looks okay, but doesn't really pop out to me the way guys like Richardson and Dyer did as freshmen. I do see a bit of a resemblance with Peterson, but also some shades of lesser backs like James Starks. Those two guys would seem to represent the range for his career trajectory.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

TJ Yeldon!

My oh my is that backfield stacked though.

Holy crap, that guy is a freshman! Dude looked like a beast!As a sidenote, 'Bama looks incredibly good. They completely dominated #8 Michigan.

Whoa...Lots of good true frosh RBs....Duke Johnson (Miami) and Todd Gurley (Georgia) both looked beastly yesterday.

Duke is being compared to Chris Johnson and he looked like it yesterday. We'll see when he faces better competition than BC.

I went back and watched all of D. Johnson's touches this morning... Wow! This is why scouting these high school players is such an crap shoot. How does this guy grade out as the number 10, yes TEN, RB in the country. He is phenomenal. I think I like him more than Yeldon.

 

[cstu]

Yeldon's 11 carries and 1 catch:

He's big and fast but right now he seems like lack some elusiveness. He plays like a big back but he's going to need to learn how to avoid hits if he doesn't want to end up like James Starks.

 

[EBF]

Yeldon's 11 carries and 1 catch:

Tall, but not big. Looks to have average bulk. Certainly not built like Steven Jackson. Thinner, like AP.

 

[doowain]

Yeldon's 11 carries and 1 catch:

Other than build (I guess), I really don't see the comparison to Starks AT ALL. Peterson, yes. His cuts remind me of Peterson 100%. Starks....uh, no.ETA: Let's remember that he is 18 and this was his first college game.

 

[pacman_fl]

Thoughts on Ray Graham vs. Cincinnati? It seems obvious that he is either not fully back physically and/or mentally. I was more intrigued by what little I caught of Rushel Shell. I thought he had good vision and his footwork was nice. Thought he was smaller by his moves, but he is listed at 6'1/215 - solid for a true freshman (though he looks closer to the 5'9" listed by Scout when he came out).

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Thoughts on Braxton Miller's pro potential?

 

[MAC_32]

Thoughts on Ray Graham vs. Cincinnati? It seems obvious that he is either not fully back physically and/or mentally. I was more intrigued by what little I caught of Rushel Shell. I thought he had good vision and his footwork was nice. Thought he was smaller by his moves, but he is listed at 6'1/215 - solid for a true freshman (though he looks closer to the 5'9" listed by Scout when he came out).

He's not back yet, hopefully get a better look vs. Cuse next month or ND later.

 

[cstu]

Thoughts on Braxton Miller's pro potential?

Unlimited IMO, if he can become a more accurate passer. I don't think he'll develop into as good of a passer as RG3 but his tools are similar.

 

[MAC_32]

Thoughts on Braxton Miller's pro potential?

Unlimited IMO, if he can become a more accurate passer. I don't think he'll develop into as good of a passer as RG3 but his tools are similar.

MUCH better head than recent Ohio St QB's.

 

[CalBear]

Keenan Allen is still a man amongst boys. 5/69 and a TD, plus a 61 yard punt return TD after he muffed the catch. He's definitely one of those guys that once he turns the corner on a punt return, you know it's going to be a TD; he's amazingly fluid in the open field. I think he's pretty dang fast for his size, probably will run at least a 4.5, maybe 4.4. Certainly a privilege to watch.

 

[lbouchard]

Justin Hunter had a big game. 8/146/3 vs Georgia State.

 

[coolnerd]

Tyler Wilson injured in upset loss to UL-Monroe (did not play in 2nd half).

 

[Xue]

Justin Hunter had a big game. 8/146/3 vs Georgia State.

I wouldn't bother evaluating prospects against weaker teams. You don't learn much.

 

[Faust]

Jarvis Jones, Georgia linebacker, might be top college defender

By Bucky Brooks

Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network

"He may be the best defensive player in American."

That's Georgia coach Mark Richt on outside linebacker Jarvis Jones. And after watching the redshirt junior's dominant display of athleticism, relentlessness and ferocity in a 41-20 win over Missouri, I absolutely agree.

There isn't a better defender roaming the grass on Saturdays.

Jones single-handedly demolished the Tigers with eight tackles, one sack, a forced fumble and an interception. He played a major role in every pivotal defensive play and showcased a polished game that has scouts drooling over the reigning SEC sack leader. This is quite a story for a guy whose playing career was in jeopardy just three years ago.

Jones was originally enrolled at USC, but a serious neck injury prematurely ended his freshman season. When USC doctors wouldn't clear Jones for spring practice, he decided to head back to his home state and transfer to Georgia, whose doctors provided medical clearance. After sitting out the 2010 season due to NCAA transfer rules, Jones racked up 70 tackles, including 19 1/2 tackles for loss and 13 1/2 sacks in 2011.

At 6-foot-3, 241 pounds, Jones is an explosive edge rusher with remarkable first-step quickness and burst. He routinely blows past offensive tackles with a slippery "dip-and-rip" speed rush move, but also shows a complete repertoire of moves to get to the quarterback. From a crafty spin move to a hard inside slant following an initial speed rush, Jones gives offensive tackles fits with his agility and strength. Most impressively, Jones complements exceptional movement skills with a high-revving motor that overwhelms opponents.

As I broke down Jones' game, I was blown away by his dogged approach as a pass rusher. He refuses to quit after being stonewalled at the line, and this extra effort routinely leads to garbage sacks at the end of broken plays. Against Missouri, Jones' relentlessness resulted in a sack and an interception when the game was still hanging in the balance in the fourth quarter. Ultimately, he made the plays that helped decide the game's outcome.

That's why scouts are so excited about Jones' prospects as a potential pro. He is the kind of difference maker along the front seven every defensive coordinator covets. His combination of skills and energy are certain to produce a stream of disruptive plays on the next level.

Word on the street

Scouts searching for the next Jason Pierre-Paul have descended upon BYU's campus to take a long look at senior Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah. The 6-foot-6, 270-pound linebacker has drawn comparisons to the New York Giants' star due to his speed, athleticism and burst, despite having only three seasons of organized football under his belt. Ansah, who hails from Ghana, originally arrived in Provo, Utah as a track athlete (Ansah reportedly clocked 21.9 in the 200 meters) before making his way to the football team in 2010.

While he remains a raw, unpolished player at this point, an NFC South scout described Ansah as an "athletic freak" with unlimited upside. If he can continue to put flashes of dominance on tape over the course of the season, it wouldn't be surprising to see Ansah enjoy a late run up the charts heading into the 2013 NFL Draft.

Stock up

B.J. Daniels, QB, South Florida

Scouts are certainly paying attention to Daniels after his phenomenal performance against Nevada. Daniels passed for 363 yards with three touchdowns, including a 56-yarder to Andre Davis for the game-winning score. Most impressively, Daniels rallied the Golden Bulls back from an 11-point deficit with less than three minutes remaining in the game. Quarterbacks with poise under pressure are valued at a premium. Daniels is working his way back into the mix in scouting circles.

Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

If you're searching for an explanation to UCLA's surprising 2-0 start, look no further than Franklin. He has been absolutely sensational as the workhorse in the Bruins' backfield, tallying 431 rushing yards on 41 carries with three touchdowns. Franklin really has given the offense a jolt with his explosive running skills on the perimeter. Against Nebraska, he finished with 217 rushing yards on 26 attempts, with six runs of 10-plus yards. With Franklin capable of breaking off big gains at any moment, the Bruins' offense suddenly packs a punch that is knocking out opponents.

Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State

Klein is not the best prototypical quarterback in college football, but there isn't a better playmaker at the position. Klein is an outstanding runner with the size and strength to overpower defenders, yet he shows a deft touch as a play-action passer. When he is on his game, Klein is an unstoppable force in the backfield, and he displayed his dynamic game in the Wildcats' 52-13 shellacking of Miami. Klein rushed for 71 yards and three touchdowns on 22 attempts, while completing nine of 11 passes for 210 yards with one touchdown and one interception. Although those numbers aren't eye-popping on the surface, they reflect Klein's all-around game and explain why he garners comparisons to Tim Tebow as an explosive playmaker.

Steve Greer, LB, Virginia

It's not surprising to see Greer wreaking havoc all over the field based on his highly productive career at Virginia. He has been among the ACC's top tacklers in each of the past two seasons and is an absolute monster in the middle of the Cavaliers' defense. In Saturday's win over Penn State, he was a tackling machine with 15 total stops, two sacks and several bang-bang hits that set the tone for the game. While scouts are still trying to determine whether Greer has the athleticism to be a three-down linebacker as a pro, there are no questions about his instincts, toughness and production following his impressive performance this weekend.

Stock down

Sam Ficken, K, Penn State

Most folks say no single player is ever responsible for a loss in football, but Penn State's kicker certainly put this belief to the test in a 17-16 loss at Virginia. Ficken had an extra point blocked and missed four makeable field goals, including a 42-yarder in the game's waning seconds. Although the Nittany Lions made a host of other mistakes that contributed to this defeat, the inability to score at least three points whenever they reached the red zone played a critical role.

Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

The departure of Russell Wilson put the burden of carrying the Badgers offense squarely on the shoulders of Ball. Although he has thrived as a bell-cow back in the past, Ball was unable to deliver big results against an Oregon State defense that has been porous against the run in recent years. Granted, quarterback Danny O'Brien's suspect performance in the pocket allowed the Beavers to extensively utilize eight- and nine-man boxes, but Ball is supposed to be a premier runner capable of finding creases against any defense.

Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M

Swope was regarded as one of the top receivers in college football heading into this season, but his disappointing SEC debut against Florida will lead some to question his ability to thrive as a No. 1 receiver in college football's toughest conference. Swope finished with only five receptions for 16 yards and didn't make a significant contribution to an offense that rolled up nearly 350 yards. With Texas A&M slated to take on more heavyweights in the coming weeks, the senior must step up his game to salvage his reputation as a big-time playmaker.