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I wouldn't, but I think I'm higher on Allen than meno is. That being said, Allen is 28. If you're going to get out, now is the time. I think with Herbert and KA's talent he can be very productive for the next three years, but some people will want out now.
I would do it
AJ Brown is light years ahead of any of those other guys value. This guy wants more than sanders is worth imo. I’d give Allen. I wouldn’t give Brown for sanders and 2 1sts tbh.
Don't include Brown in this. My ten cents. Allen and Hunt for Sanders is square and fair I should think.
How else do we talk about dynasty value than to talk about where *we* are with it. Which is going to come across as advice. Otherwise 100% of responses to questions about value should just be "follow this link to ADP".
That is nuts. I love McLaurin but would likely move him for Gibson pretty fast. Allen for Gibson would be an autoslam regardless of format.
Wow surprised to see that. You've gotta be the only guy in FF looking to move RBs for non-elite WRs right now that doesn't have 11 other owners banging on your door.
If you were a really strong contender, I could see this. But I agree two years is about what he has left as a tier 1 RB.
I think there’s a line. Some people just throw out trade offer after trade offer for their individual team and ask if they should take it, etc.
I can see there being a line but I'm not sure it is very well defined. At all. What difference does it make if someone asks "should I trade player x for player y or player z?" vs "what do people think of the values of players x,y, and z?" There is no difference just some verbiage bothers people for weird reasons and other verbiage doesn't. Even though it is the same damn thing. This isn't directed at you, just my thoughts on it. I appreciate the answer you gave, seems sufficient.
I've stopped answering direct AC forum questions in this thread. I like discussing general trade value of players, but I never ask for specific trade advice when I do post questions.
I'd trade 2x late firsts for
I think it’s almost always a good idea to trade the 1.12 for a first the following year. An injury and some bad luck here and there and you’re sitting on a top 5 pick.
I'm beginning to be more and more curious about this as well as I've had some future 1sts fall in my lap lately. I think I've heard people suggest it should be good for QBs. I wouldn't know. RB is probably my top question, as usual.
As of now, I'm leaning towards this year's 1.12 being more valuable than an unknown likely late first for 2022. I might be in the minority
Yes. Last year I picked the likes of Jefferson, Higgins, Pittman and Aiyuk there in various leagues. In a SF league I realized I could probably wait on Pittman at 1.12 and move back. I moved to 2.04 and 3.04 in exchange and ended up with Pittman anyway, and then Claypool at 3.04. That is obviously really good luck (I am a Pittman believer but that isn't the point), but it wouldn't have been possible if I had traded out for a future 1st earlier. It was an OTC move. I had just taken Jefferson at 1.11 and decided I loved the board enough that I would move back and my guy that I was willing to take there fell for me.
I don't think you are in the minority at all, but I think it's maybe close to even for me. But there is no obvious reason to trade out yet.
QB is the only position I've actually heard about projected strength of the 2022 class and I've heard just the opposite and I know Daniel Jeremia was on guy saying this, that it does not look good. He and others who have said the 2022 class does not look great offer caveat we've been getting the guy out of nowhere(Baker, Zach Wilson) but right now it does not look very good.
Not so much the minority but key is what @kutta said about injuries and bad luck giving you a chance for what you thought was a likely late pick to not be late. Happened to me last year, I see it all the time but to be fair I see this more in FFPC were we have the draft playoffs, so a team can barely miss the playoffs and get you pick 1.
Yeah there wasn't anything that was going to get me off of Jefferson last year if he was on the board in the late 1st and I was OTC. Which happened a few times for me.
It looks about the same at WR, if not a bit better to me. At RB it looks worse. Way worse.
I wouldn’t say the WRs are better, but could be. I do like Bell, Burke, Pickens, and Garrett somewhat. Justyn Ross if he can get back healthy, I have my doubts. A lot will like Olave, but not me. I’m sure I’m missing some. As for RB, after Hall there is Spiller, Gray, then a bunch of not much. I’m not even high on Spiller. QBs will be very good with Howell, Rattler, Slovis, plus others. My sleeper is Ridder. 2023 will be great for RBs and a few high ceiling WRs (Boutte, Demas, Haselwood, and few others).
I love Pickens and Bell a lot. Ross is the dark horse, and I'm super hopeful for him. More so that I'm pulling for him. I'm not on the Olave hype same as you. The strength is in the WR's though, same as 2020.
Underachiever that you can not count on (he had 9 games with less than 35 yards last year)...due to the current state of TEs he is worthy of a roster spot because there is upside here but you better have another option available.
I would take a flyer on him for a 3rd but otherwise I'd probably let the current owners continue to be disappointed with him. He can't block, which makes him one-dimensional and his usage predictable. He has trouble staying healthy - last year was the first year in the last 3 he didn't miss any games. He also drops too many passes, some of which were passes even a middle-aged out of shape couch potato like me could catch, which makes him unreliable even when healthy. I wouldn't mind seeing the NYG replace him.
I get it that he also isn’t on the Olave train, but I read that “I’m not on the Olave hype the same as you”. I said a lot will like Olave, but not me. He thought I liked Olave.
No. He didn't. He used poor grammar, but he was saying that like you, he also doesn't like Olave.
I’m glad you could read what he meant to say. It doesn’t freaking matter and this banter completely takes away from the points being made about 2022 prospects.
I don't know what the market will think but I have to assume the number of targets goes up, unless Juju goes there too.
